It's goddamn maddening that people don't understand that *observational humor* has NO legs to stand on when the "joke" teller gets the *observation* completely wrong

The old triple Jeremy ex machina

Wait... If you're Jeremy... And I'M Jeremy... Who's piloting the plane!?

I love how constantly, level, mannered, and polite Shaun is, even when he says he's irritated

"This is subtly pointed out in the following dialogue exchange" "its got a harness" fkn lost it

"is a gorilla a deus ex machina" ... killed me dead

6:39 "After one or two shark attacks absolutely no one would be going to these beaches." An astute observation of human behavior that was utterly and completely disproved by 2020.

20:26 "I need to calm down," said Shaun, in the calmest manner and tone in the history of the universe. This video is spectacular. Edit: 3 years later I got a notification for this comment. This got 3100 likes? lol

"It's satire!" has the same vibes as "it's just a prank bro!".

The "DMV is slow" joke, which was apparently "12 years to late to be relevant", is still exactly as relevant today. Has Jeremy just never been to the DMV?

i actually lost it at "oh, waking up from being asleep cliche"

Inside Out shows that there’s no such thing as purely positive and negative emotions. Joy even explains in the beginning what every emotion helps with: Fear keeps Riley out of danger, Disgust keeps her from getting poisoned in many senses, and Anger makes sure that there is justice and fairness. The whole movie is about Joy learning to grasp that Sadness has a place, and that is when you need to let people know that things are not okay and you need help. And that’s honestly pretty nuanced for a kid’s movie. Shame Cinema Sins didn’t get it though, they were probably drooling over Spring Breakers.

"Here's my toothbrush ex machina" Not even a minute in and I'm laughing. So much better than Cinema Sins.

In the Cinema Sins on Django Unchained, they show a clip where Dr. Schultz says to Django something like "When the snow melts, we'll go to Greensboro to get your wife". Cinema Sins says "Why not go now?" and gives it a sin. They don't seem to understand that the two characters are on horseback and not snowmobiles.

How many Jeremy's does it take to change a lightbulb? None, they would just complain about how cliche this joke is...

One of the things that really bother me about CS is the disregarding of accurate cultural representation just because it doesn’t align with western norms. Like the Moana video is the biggest example of this

Ah, the ol' three-Jeremy shuffle. A classic.

IMHO, their biggest sin is thinking they're funny. In many episodes, half the listings are filler that they include at an attempt of humor to pad out the listing.

"I need to calm down" - the youtuber with the most consistently calm, and comfortingly monotonous voice to ever exist

Sadly, almost everyone is turning into CinemaSins. Everyone thinks that if the characters doesn’t think the same as the audience does, it must mean plot hole which is silly.

That last criticism of the DMV Zootopia scene is really weird. Why 12 years? Do they think the "DMV is slow" thing is referencing something in 2004? I've heard that joke since at least the 80s. If they just wanted to call it an old joke, they could have accurately (for once) called it the "DMV-is-slow cliché"

"respirating in order to keep the exchange of o2 and co2 continuing in the alveoli which will then supply vital organs with oxygen" cliche

its really pathetic how their fanboys will cry that "its satire" there is literally nothing satirical about what they do. this is like having someone say 2+2=3 and then your excuse is that it's satirizing math. Being wrong isn't satire you're just using it as an excuse for being wrong. literally nobody in the comment sections in their videos treats it like satire, they all treat it as "real criticism" until its actually shown to be an actual lie by people who watched the movie and then you get the "satire" excuse

it's almost as if Jeremy doesn't actually watch the movies and instead has like 20 writers that watch the movie for him and never communicate with each other while making his script, so he just looks at the 20 different cliff notes and puts whatever he likes into the actual video script

Your dry, hesitating delivery of all your lines made me crack up for the full twenty minutes of this video. XD Great job!

Damning criticism ex machina.

"Sin channels" are lacking in humor pretty much 99% of the time and their fanbase has this "DONT WATCH IF YOU DONT LIKE" blithering nonsense if you even slightly criticize the work even though y'know you can't criticize or know what something is like without watching it

"It's got a harness!" completely slayed me. The character literally YELLS it!

my favorite thing about the comment about the throat slitting gesture in guardians is that the other alien in the room with them clearly knew what the gesture meant

The sad thing is, CS would be awesome and truly addictive if it just focused on actual goofs and plot-mistakes, with a more fair counting. It's like he invented the hamburger, then shit on it instead of putting dressing on it.

A lot of fan boys are saying "Cinema Sins is satire!" So, ahem, the definition of Satire: "the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues." So, pointing out non-existent flaws in a movie, isn't really pointing out ridiculing or criticizing people stupidity or vices. Meanwhile, what Shaun here does, pointing out the stupidity of CinemaSins alleged sins, is pretty much text book satire.

I remember watching my first CinemaSins thinking it was going to be a collection of all the continuity errors and other actual mistakes in any given movie. It turned out to be a lot of misinformed, opinion-based garbage, which you are doing a fantastic job of calling out. I think I only watched two of their videos before giving up on them. Thank you. This is cathartic for me.

Never stop making these. Even if it costs you your entire sanity. Never stop. I need them.

A lot of Cinemasins' defenders are saying that you shouldn't worry about them making blatant errors all the time, because it's all for the sake of comedy. But I think why that stance bothers people is because comedy, especially "satirical" or "critical" comedy, is expected to have some element of truth in it. It makes the point more effective. Instead, all we have are a bunch of badly edited montages of non sequiturs, misinterpretations, and outright lies. There is nothing cutting or trenchant about their humor. It is cheap, lazy, and inane.

"This is subtly pointed out in the following dialogue exchange." "IT'S GOT A HARNESS!" I about lost my shit there :D

First I just want to say that the “unfair minor nit picks” are actually big problems. If so many of their videos have these editing problems, it’s obvious they do not care about the quality of their content and are just trying to publish more as fast as they can.

Re: Inside Out, this is more "Nitpicking nitpicks" but Pixar didn't just choose 5 emotions at random; Joy, Sadness, Anger, Fear & Disgust serve as the building blocks of the research of a psychologist named Paul Ekman. Ekman's research on facial expressions are psychology elective stuff & it's used as a basis for the TV series Lie to Me. Not exactly obscure, but I guess I can't expect jokey youtube men to do an ounce of research. Man this frustrates me.

I'm a fan of you beating the dead horse of cinema sins.

The first video I saw of "Cinema Sins" was The Matrix, and the first sin was when the words "Wake up Neo..." appeared on Neo's computer, and he woke up. Cinema sins said "Being woken up by text on a screen" and counted it as a sin, which made me wonder if they even watched the next ten seconds of the film (or even understood... *any* of it's mechanics) where the text "knock knock, Neo..." appears on his screen, *before* someone knocks on his door, showing that the people outside the Matrix can see what will happen inside the Matrix before it happens, as is further hammered home by them guiding him out of his office avoiding the police by telephone. I never watched another Cinema Sins.

My personal most hated cinema sins video is the Who Framed Rodger Rabbit one, where they continuously give sins for cartoons having cartoon logic based physics and such. Like according to them, just because the cartoons are blended with the real world, they shouldn't be able to do the things cartoons do. So that whole episode is just them adding sins every time a cartoon character does something completely expected of a cartoon character. There was a ton of other stupid sins too but I watched it so long ago I can't remember them all, but what I do remember is coming out of it thinking not a single sin was actually justified.

23:00 And this is subtly pointed out in the following dialogue exchange "ITS WEARING A HARNESS!" This video is gold I love you

"Watch your own video" best moment. Also, for the Inside Out discussion: the five emotions are based on actual psychological theories (though they usually feature seven emotions, not five). So, there's that too

I don't care if CinemaSins is "Just a joke, bro", i still cant stand it. It's just snarky bullshit. It's not clever, it's not witty. It's boring and trite. And half the time, in order to make their jokes work, they have to take shit in the movie out of context, or fabricate. What's the point?

The "Shark A-tanks" at the end made me laugh uncontrollably for a minute.

3:30 Not to be nitpicking on the nitpicking of nitpickers, but... the antagonist in Kung Fu Panda is not a leopard, but a snow leopard. Before you say, "well, that is just a special kind of leopard": It is actually is a whole 'nother species (_Panthera uncia_ and not _Panthera pardus_), and more closely related to tigers. To be clear: I think this is a great video and you are right to point the many sloppy mistakes the CinemaSins guys are making, while snarkily ridiculing others!

9:43 even if that was the first giant we've seen... so? Why is that a sin? The monsters have always bee nshown ot be super varied, even if there was only one giant what's the issue?

Don't "go easy on them" for missing a detail, even when it's very subtle. They literally made it their job to go through movies with a fine comb and find every single thing to nitpick, so they should be held accountable for giving incorrect criticism.

FINALLY someone who sees what I see in beginning logos! I never got them complaining about this...The logo animations are often very creative and tweaked to match the movie that you're about to watch which is adorable, not annoying. It reminds you to take pleasure even sometimes--my twin toddlers LAUGHED at the Pixar opening the first time they saw it, triggering fond memories of seeing that original short by Pixar as a child myself. It's fun to see how these studios express themselves in those few seconds, or give hints at what's to come, not to mention it's their RIGHT and NOT TO MENTION the beginning of movies used to have the entire credits so I'm not sure how short it needs to be to satisfy these CinemaSins!

2:25 This one especially bugs me since, in that exact same video, he states he did research on gorillas' hearing. So what stopped him from finding out if gorillas are apes?

I think I love you.

Kind of shocked by this. Never watched CS's content, but that was pretty crazy. I was especially taken back by the Matrix bit. Smith's assimilation of the Oracle is a major sequence. Was he looking at his phone or something?

You earned a like from "here's my toothbrush.... ex machina." The rest was gravy.

sharkatanks is my favorite sci-fi channel b-movie

Definitely didn't start out liking this video, but it totally grew on me- I am a sucker for some good dry delivery

To be fair to the ant floaty thing, I also didn't know ants could do that until that scene happened in the movie... But also, you can see that the ants are floating on the SURFACE of the water and none of them are underwater. Like, with your eyes, watching the scene happen.

Now every morning I'll get up and think "Oh the old waking up in the morning after a night's sleep cliche ex machina!"

"It's just a joke, don't take it so seriously!" say the people who take these videos completely seriously. Also, as addressed in a previous video, it DOESN'T MATTER that CinemaSins "intend" their videos to be "jokes" because if that intent is left ambiguous enough that multiple people can interpret it as being serious film criticism, especially in cases where they are just blatantly making shit up, then we must treat their videos as serious criticism. Read Roland Barthes' "Death of the Author" ya philistines.

Your videos about them are pretty refreshing, and manage to be funny without completely misconstruing what they actually say or not watching the whole video... which can't be said for their "satiric" critiques of most films. Unless people find getting it wrong funny. And the way you find humor from their ignorance is far funnier than any shitty joke they make up after editing a movie to hell so it isnt absolutely obviously wrong. To be honest, the concept of critiquing movies in their style could be funny, but their complete lack of care for stylistic choices and symbolism in favor of making unfunny jokes about the literal reality of the movie that isnt supposed to be inerpreted that way, and the constant misogyny... no thanks.

i won’t stand for blatant jeremy-on-jeremy crime

So basically CinemaSins is like if a professor told you to read a book and write a paper on it so you skimmed the book, wrote the paper while reading the book and didn't even look over your paper once before submitting it.

these videos are cathartic. never stop making them, you're doing God's work (I can't believe you watched Maze Runner 2)

Great stuff. Thanks for taking the time to do it.

The only good thing about Cinema Sins is that there's another channel called Cinema Wins, which is an obvious rip-off, but instead of terrible nitpicky (and often wrong) observations (or "jokes") it's always a rollercoaster of positiveness and pure joy, finding things to praise even in the worst movies! But of course deluded Sins fanatics will keep bashing Wins for stealing the "formula"...

I am 100% certain that the CinemaSins scripts are written by a guy watching a movie for the first time, pressured to produce a 10-15 minute nitpicking video, while watching the movie.

“Here’s my toothbrush.....ex machina” - laughed in the middle of work so goddamn hard.

Listening to Cinemasins reminds me of pretty much I've ever talked to a 30-something White American man for work or socially. It's just this constant need to make stupid jokes in a condescending voice based on some juvenile form of sarcasm. It's as though they can't imagine others thinking those jokes and simply choosing not to verbalize them (because they're basic). Just endless chatter with all the hallmark features of telling a joke (smug face, sing-songy sarcastic tone, cursing like a 7th-grader) but without an actual joke.

i'm unreasonably angry that they gave the sloth dmv scene, which is still to this day the funniest gag i've ever seen in a kids' movie, a sin for being ""outdated"". what the fuck is he talking about? does jeremy think people don't go to the dmv anymore?

CinemaSins watches a movie ONCE at best, they do not pay very much attention, they do not retract sins for a lack of explanation after receiving the explanation, they intentionally lie to try to make jokes, and they constantly misinterpret and misrepresent media. They do it on TVSins too. They rush themselves, they don't care about the product, they don't care about the audience, they just want money.

I live for these videos, they are 10/10. Thank you for dragging these guys.

Your bit at the end about the positive aspects of logos reminded me of how weird it felt when the Force Awakens started without the 20th Century Fox logo.

Dude! You are *really* angry about cinemasins and you have no idea how much it pleases me. Listening to you tear apart their atrocious drivel is truly, a wonderful thing! Good video. Keep it up.

Cinemasins reminds me so much of the smug superior attitude some guys have about various forms of media while they seem unable or unwilling to interact with the art as anything other than a 'story for entertainment and nothing else.' Guys like that dont even seem to concieve of the idea that a story would have deeper meaning beyond the narrative presented. There's just this attitude almost like they see it as 'cool stuff happens then its the end'. The idea of metaphor or alagory doesnt even enter into the equation. Films to people who act like that are just a couple hours of exciting images with no sort of take-away meaning or messege or idea behind it. Its just so silly that nerds like that see themselves as intellectually superior movie critis. Meanwhile a good portion of their nitpicking is actually uninformed and wrong (as you point out). And they dont seem capable of having an actually thought or opinion of a work beyond if it was cool/exciting.

You know what CinemaSins reminds me of? Doug Walker, aka the Nostalgia Critic. Like CinemaSins, Doug doesn't really do research when it comes to his reviews, which I guess is understandable, he does one review a week, and there are more aspects that go into a review compared to a CinemaSins video (which I'll get back to), but he's also uninquisitive and incurious, and very much like CinemaSins, he's completely unable to see past movies on a literal level. Adding to this is his increased use of clipless reviews, i.e. reviews that don't use clips from the movies but instead use reenactments of the movies using himself and his crew, which is bad because it means he has complete control over what he criticizes, so he can literally make up or leave out stuff far more easily than CinemaSins. This, coupled with just how many facts he gets wrong about various things (including animals, again like CinemaSins), really makes me feel like the two are a match mad in H̶e̶a̶v̶e̶n̶ Hell. The only thing I'll give Doug credit for is that he actually appears on screen, and often has his crew acting... well, "acting" alongside him. The quality of these onscreen bits isn't good, but at least they're somewhat more justified in not getting everything right compared to CinemaSins, who not only are inconsistent with their own sins, but have frequent technical flaws within their on videos, meaning the bar was lower for them and they still can't be bothered to clear it. It really is rather infuriating, especially when you consider how popular CinemaSins is... which is why I try not to think about them that much.

One of my favorite CinemaSins moments is in the review of Who Framed Roger Rabbit. At the start of the film, when the film reveals that the cartoon with Roger and the baby is actually being filmed on a live action set with Roger and the baby as cartoon actors, they ask how the real world objects could demonstrate cartoon physics. And yet a scene later on where Roger jumps through a window and makes a hole the shape of his silhouette still gets marked as a sin even though happening on both occasions (And others, like how the hole-in-the-wall stickers work on none toon walls) should qualify it as this film universe's internal logic that's not specified by the dialogue.

Cinema sins: *makes a smartass criticism of a movie* Someone: actually that is incorrect here's why Cinema sins: it was a joke ok its satire lol Cinema sins: *keeps making bad criticism*

"It's satire!" bros not realising that the exact same argument could be used to defend Shaun's video is hilarious. Also, CinemaSins is supposed to be all about nitpicking, right? So how do we think CS and their fanboys would react if they were to make a video on a comedy movie and then the filmmakers turned around and said "Why is CinemaSins picking on us? Our film is just satire!" Would CS double down on the video, or would they follow their own logic and take it down on the grounds that criticising or (gasp!) _satirising_ satire is not allowed?

"The character that they thought got shot in the head carried on being in the movie...because he's alive." Your deadpan sarcasm is brilliant.

In a "Sin" of their "Everything Wrong With The Incredibles" video, while Edna Mode shows Helen the Super Suits, the sin count completely vanishes for a short time

Cinema Sins is the Ben Shapiro of cinema critique

When he types in "is a gorilla an ape" then deletes it and types in "is a gorilla a deus ex machina" XD

i had no idea. i just also watched them uncritically. i knew they weren't really reviews because of all the "jokes" that shouldn't really take away points. but even the parts where they slow down and supposedly point out plot holes are wrong

Your narration sounds like a person just on the brink, the edge ex machina

Jeez! Would it kill them to actually watch the films they criticize? Esp. Stargate! I'm convinced they didn't even bother to read the Wikipedia article about the movie! Just sheer laziness!

As a Jeremy, I find it hilarious that another Jeremy has confused two different other Jeremys. This is great.

Just binged all of your cinema sins videos. Brilliant!

Yeah, mixing up those two Jeremies was a real mistake on behalf of CinemaSins host Jeremy Corbyn

Its so funny when Shaun says in a completely calm tone ‘i need to calm down’

also, the DMV joke is supposed to be a set-up for the final joke in the film, where the animal going obscenely fast on Nick's first time on patrol is (drum roll) Flash, Flash, Hundred-Yard Dash. (and also it's supposed to set up how in over her head judy is with how to properly interact with the Zootopians)

Many a time I've watched Cinesins, enjoyed them and laughed. Many other times i watched and grew angry @ sins they gave that didn't make sense or were blatantly wrong. My husband has found me yelling @ the screen. I thought I was alone. I'm glad I'm not - and I thoroughly enjoy your videos. Please do more. This is satisfying.

The one that really got under my skin was when they gave "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" a sin for using the "Next Generation" theme. TMP predates TNG by eight years.

The sins being out of order in Hateful Eight is a reference to Tarantino’s habit of telling stories out of chronological order, i think.

I really don't understand how CinemaSins can post such shit.

After watching some cinemasins videos and getting genuinly angry, I figured that I couldn't be the only one not fooled by the utter stupidity of their videos. This brought me to you. Keep doing what you do, brother, united we stand (against cinemasins). You tell em like it is

sometimes self care in quarantine is watching shauns cinema sins videos

Cinema Sins is a channel run by the guys from the "Please Please PLEASE Get a Life Foundation" skit on Animaniacs. You can't change my mind.

I hated cinema sins the first time I saw it.

CinemaSins use to make fun of bad movies, now it's all movies and the sins are terrible and not funny.

What happens when the cart of "needing to make videos about movies" is put before the horse of "watching movies and incidentally noticing things about them"

"Oh here's my toothbrush ex machina." KILLED me. Your voice is so wonderful, I love it.

These CinemaSins smackdown videos have been consistently entertaining. So... I suppose I don't really mind that you keep posting them. :P