The Flash VS Spider-Man: No Way Home - Which is the more effective Multiverse Movie?

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Cinemaze

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The Flash (2023) and Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021) have very similar premises, a young superhero who has issues within their life who turns to a mystery power to fix their crisis, however this goes wrong and results in the Multiverse bringing past heroes and villains to their world. But which is the better movie?
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00:00 - Intro
1:32 - Act One
5:17 - Act Two
7:40 - Act Three
11:03 - Cameos
14:59 - Conclusion
Official Plot:
[The Flash] Worlds collide when the Flash uses his superpowers to travel back in time to change the events of the past. However, when his attempt to save his family inadvertently alters the future, he becomes trapped in a reality in which General Zod has returned, threatening annihilation. With no other superheroes to turn to, the Flash looks to coax a very different Batman out of retirement and rescue an imprisoned Kryptonian -- albeit not the one he's looking for.
[No Way Home] Spider-Man seeks the help of Doctor Strange to forget his exposed secret identity as Peter Parker. However, Strange's spell goes horribly wrong, leading to unwanted guests entering their universe.
Cast:
Ezra Miller as Barry Allen / The Flash:
Sasha Calle as Kara Zor-El / Supergirl:
Michael Shannon as General Zod:
Ron Livingston as Henry Allen:
Maribel Verdú as Nora Allen
Kiersey Clemons as Iris West
Antje Traue as Faora-UI
Michael Keaton as Bruce Wayne / Batman from Batman (1989) and Batman Returns (1992).[19]
Affleck appears, as the original version of Bruce Wayne / Batman
George Clooney appears as a variation of Bruce Wayne, replacing Affleck's version in the ending; Clooney previously portrayed the character in Batman & Robin (1997).
Jeremy Irons as Alfred Pennyworth
Gal Gadot as Diana Prince / Wonder Woman,
Jason Momoa as Arthur Curry / Aquaman.
The DCEU version of Superman also appears through the use of computer-generated imagery (CGI) using Henry Cavill's likeness; Nicolas Cage makes a cameo appearance as an alternate version of Superman, after he previously voiced the character in the unrelated animated film Teen Titans Go! To the Movies (2018); he was originally cast as Superman in Tim Burton's unproduced film Superman Lives.
Through the use of AI & deepfaking, previous incarnations of Superman, Batman, and Supergirl appear during the "Speed Force" sequence, Christopher Reeve as Superman from the 1978-1987 Superman films, Helen Slater as Supergirl from Supergirl (1984), Adam West as Batman from the 1966 film &television series, and George Reeves as his version of Superman from Superman and the Mole Men (1951) and Adventures of Superman (1952-1958), through the use of archive footage. Archival recordings of Cesar Romero and Jack Nicholson as their versions of The Joker from the 1960s series and 1989 film, respectively, along with Eartha Kitt's Catwoman from the 1960s series, are also featured.
Tom Holland as Peter Parker / Spider-Man:
Zendaya as Michelle "MJ" Jones-Watson:
Benedict Cumberbatch as Dr. Stephen Strange:
Jacob Batalon as Ned Leeds
Jon Favreau as Happy Hogan:
Jamie Foxx as Max Dillon / Electro:
Foxx reprises his role from Marc Webb's The Amazing Spider-Man 2
Willem Dafoe as Norman Osborn / Green Goblin:
Dafoe reprises his role from Sam Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy
Alfred Molina as Otto Octavius / Doctor Octopus:
Molina reprises his role from Raimi's Spider-Man 2 (2004)
Benedict Wong as Wong
Tony Revolori as Eugene "Flash" Thompson
Marisa Tomei as May Parker (Aunt May)
Andrew Garfield as Peter Parker / Spider-Man Garfield reprises his role from Webb's The Amazing Spider-Man films. The other Spider-Men refer to him as "Peter-Three"
Tobey Maguire as Peter Parker / Spider-Man: Maguire reprises his role from Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy. The other Spider-Men refer to him as "Peter-Two"
Rhys Ifans reprises his role as Dr. Curt Connors / Lizard, from Webb's The Amazing Spider-Man (2012)
Thomas Haden Church reprises his role as Flint Marko / Sandman, from Raimi's Spider-Man 3
Charlie Cox reprises his role as Matt Murdock from Marvel Television's Netflix series
Tom Hardy reprises his roles as Eddie Brock / Venom from Sony's Spider-Man Universe (SSU) in an uncredited cameo appearance in the mid-credits scene.
J. K. Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson, the host of The Daily Bugle
Directed by:
Jon Watts
Andy Muschietti
Questions:
Is the Flash good?
Is the Flash bad
The Flash CGI
What is the best multiverse film
What is better Spider-Man No Way Home or The Flash
Flash VS Spider-Man
Versus
Is No Way Home Good
Marvel Cinematic Universe
What Universe is?
Is Michael Keaton now batman?
Is Michael Keaton Batman now dead
DC Extended Universe

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@REaDComicsau
@REaDComicsau 10 ай бұрын
I still haven’t seen The Flash but I know my answer is No Way Home. Flashpoint is a good comic but the animated movie is even better. I don’t like how the Flash movie looks to do Flashpoint.
@CINEMAZE
@CINEMAZE 10 ай бұрын
Honestly it adapted the flashpoint story more accurately than I expected, yes it changes the characters involved and there’s no reverse flash but it still follows similar plot beats like losing his powers and the electric chair. It’s not as good as the original but it was more accurate than I expected. I’d recommend watching it once if you ever get the chance but yes No Way Home is superior
@Wemby73
@Wemby73 10 ай бұрын
I would say the comics better honestly
@christianciv1998
@christianciv1998 7 ай бұрын
Lots of people say NWH is just nostalgia fan service! WRONG!! It's a nostalgia fan service superhero movie DONE RIGHT! The Flash is nothing but nostalgia fan service!!!!
@CINEMAZE
@CINEMAZE 7 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree, it’s totally done well in NWH. Thanks for watching
@NoahC1718
@NoahC1718 10 ай бұрын
Dude your videos are great! Hope your channel grows :)
@CINEMAZE
@CINEMAZE 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@icyvoxx
@icyvoxx 10 ай бұрын
A other amazing video keep it up 👍
@CINEMAZE
@CINEMAZE 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Really appreciate the support
@isaiahtopzmovietalkandmore
@isaiahtopzmovietalkandmore 10 ай бұрын
Loved this video. You said exactly what I was thinking when it comes to both of these films. Its very interesting to see the hate from both, but I enjoyed both of them. Both have issues. Some more than others....(the flash). But both are enjoyable
@CINEMAZE
@CINEMAZE 10 ай бұрын
Completely agree! Thanks as always for watching and supporting the channel!
@blobona4810
@blobona4810 10 ай бұрын
Glad to see I wasn’t the only person who liked flashpoint
@CINEMAZE
@CINEMAZE 10 ай бұрын
It’s definitely got it’s issues but I feel like it’s over hated
@davidakin3840
@davidakin3840 10 ай бұрын
no way home is peak fiction and across the spiderverse exemplifies that by 20, flash more like mr.sus shouldn't even be compared
@samuelmackenzie5267
@samuelmackenzie5267 10 ай бұрын
Not once was dark flash mentioned in the video. I find that interesting.
@CINEMAZE
@CINEMAZE 10 ай бұрын
I didn’t think it was particularly relevant to my comparisons with No Way Home as when I was looking at villains it was about how they handled the returning villains
@Tyler_the_lil_chef
@Tyler_the_lil_chef 10 ай бұрын
I told u I’d watch it😊
@CINEMAZE
@CINEMAZE 10 ай бұрын
Thanks I appreciate it! As you expected I preferred No Way Home but I thought the flash did some things better!
@Tyler_the_lil_chef
@Tyler_the_lil_chef 10 ай бұрын
@@CINEMAZE also 1 + sub😀
@CINEMAZE
@CINEMAZE 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@marvinschannel5391
@marvinschannel5391 10 ай бұрын
Yo great video! Sorry I’m late commenting on this video! I loved No Way Home and I really enjoyed The Flash! The Flash is blatantly obvious, trying to copy No Way Home formula with the fan service and the amount of cameos and has awful CGI.. but The Flash is a entertaining mess but the best part is Michael Keaton as Batman! As for his death? I think they were trying to give him like a perfect sendoff i think it was well handled but it needed more heart to the story and better written characters arcs! While I appreciate the attempt trying to have a heart warming scene with Barry Allen and his mum I think the movie should of done more with that.. and it’s obvious the third it had multiple endings.. I wonder if I’ll ever get the ultimate cut?.. like the Snyder cut.. No Way Home has more heart to the story and the characters written way more better and gives us the information what the characters have been doing like Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield Spider-Man and gets their characters arcs justice! Had better written villains and better CGI while some dodgy parts.. No Way Home succeeds as a Multiverse while I feel like they could of gone even bigger with the Multiverse even more extreme like what did and the writing could of been stronger but No Way Home does this way better than Doctor Strange the Multiverse of Madness and respects the source material! No Way Home is a fantastic movie one of MCU bests films does incredibly well with fan service and it’s one of my favourite cinema experiences and The Flash is a mess with awful CGI but I really enjoyed it with entertaining action! The cameos are crazy and the fan service was so forced but it was hard to not enjoy sure it was forced but I did really enjoy it even it didn’t serve the story.. The best part is really Michael Keaton as Batman and this film is going to fail anyway, because of the lead actor and the trouble production.. but it’s a fun mess Great video as always! Would you ever make a video like Spider-Man No Way Home Vs Into the Spider-Verse/Across the Spider-Verse? Like a fun comparison? Like this film does this better and this film does it better watch this film could’ve done more and what this film could’ve done more than what they could’ve added and stuff like that!
@CINEMAZE
@CINEMAZE 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Regarding Keaton's death I don't think they were trying to give him a send off, remember the original ending for this film had Keaton return as Batman joining the DCEU for the future and the batgirl movie, but because of Gunn taking over they changed the ending. I think the plan was for him to die but it wouldn't matter because Barry resets everything and then he joins the DCEU so he didn't really die, but because they changed the ending, it results in him actually dying which is a weird ending. Thanks for the video suggestion, that would definately be interesting, its hard because those movies are trying different things, honestly a more fair comparison would be Dr Strange 2 VS Across the Spider-Verse, both are about travelling across the multiverse with alternate versions and a secret society of superheroes with cameos!
@marvinschannel5391
@marvinschannel5391 10 ай бұрын
@@CINEMAZE fans were saying they saw it as like a tribute to the Burton films by ending Michael Keaton as Batman.. hopefully he does return as Batman but we’ll just have to wait and see..
@CINEMAZE
@CINEMAZE 10 ай бұрын
@@marvinschannel5391 I think its an awful ending to his character, dying in a universe which may not exist anymore and not knowing if its the 89 universe or not
@ParityCheck365
@ParityCheck365 10 ай бұрын
Wow it must be Spider-Man week 😂🙈
@CINEMAZE
@CINEMAZE 10 ай бұрын
It is Spidey month as his first appearance was in August 1962!
@osuda1017
@osuda1017 10 күн бұрын
You think Sony and Marvel are scummy, not WB. Wow, Brilliant!!!
@CINEMAZE
@CINEMAZE 10 күн бұрын
When did I say this?
@theduckduckboi4870
@theduckduckboi4870 10 ай бұрын
Flashpoint is one of the best comic storylines imo but the movie did that so so wrong I’d prefer a copy instead
@CINEMAZE
@CINEMAZE 10 ай бұрын
Honestly it followed flashpoint more than I was expecting with him losing his powers and the electric chair. I didn’t think it would have any influence at all. But yeah the comic is way better
@JessicaChastainFan
@JessicaChastainFan 10 ай бұрын
No Way Home is pure garbage. The Flash all the way for having a more well executed build up to the multiverse antics. Peter wanting everyone to forget that he's Spider-Man and Dr. Strange being a total tool and a fool enabling the little shit is just poor and lazy writing. Plus, Tom Holland simply cannot act. Ezra Miller sold his performances as multiple Barry Allens flawlessly. Then there's Andrew and Tobey, who phoned it in so hard, it took me out of the movie entirely (not to mention the shitty humor. "You're AMAZING. YOU'RE AMAZING. Get it? Because you were in the Amazing Spider-Man movies? Hot garbage written by a male toddler. The Flash's supporting leads in Michael Keaton Batman and Sasha Callé Supergirl are way more human, well rounded characters. They actually serve a purpose in Barry's story, and even help him evolve. And in story, Supergirl is the reason the DC multiverse is ultimately saved. Thanks to older Barry's kindness to her, she paid him back by getting his powers back. Everything served a purpose. Nothing in No Way Home mattered. Especially when to this day, we've had zero good Spider-Man movies. They were all objectively awful films, so what made Disney and Sony think that by putting them together, we would get a winner. Everyone was duped by the nostalgia 100%. The Flash had nostalgia, too, but the haters keep ignoring the fact that the majority of the film is Barry's story, and it's a story that moves forward. Michael Keaton Batman even explains how time travel and the multiverse works better than the MCU ever has, so that normal people, and not nerds with fake science theories can understand it (and finally accept it).
@CINEMAZE
@CINEMAZE 10 ай бұрын
Wow this is an interesting take. I agree with some of this but not all of it. Firstly, as I say in the video The Flash does have a much better introduction and build up to the multiverse. Way better than Peter wanting to make people forget. BUT it has a far more emotional ending with May's death and losing his identity, compared to the Flash which has 0 stakes by the end and no consequence to his actions (he actually benefits and saves his dad). No way you can say that Andrew and Tobey phoned it in, they gave good performance and Andrew was clearly trying hard in his performance to redeem his character. You must be joking to say Keaton's Batman and Supergirl were well rounded characters who serve Barry's story. Keaton (who is great in the role) doesn't actually have much to do except move the plot from scene to scene, and Supergirl is barely a character, literally what does she do except act as a plot device. Neither of these characters serve Barry's story except to die, compared with Garfield and Maguire who literally influence Holland's arc and also learn from him in return. You can't say objectively awful when judging films, like thats not how objectivity works, its all opinion. Much like you say about the Flash being Barry's story, you are doing the same thing to No Way Home which is clearly Holland's story from start to finish with nostalgia elements which actually help the film. And come on, you can't talk about time travel in the flash which literally contradicts itself and the multiverse working better when no-one (even scientists) actually know how the multiverse works. This is fiction. I like both of these films and I think both films work as a story for their lead actor outside of the nostalgia, however I think the flash has a better set up while spidey has a better pay off and conclusion. I think the flash fails its nostalgia and it actually takes away from the film and takes away from the very effective personal story that Barry was on. The Flash is best when it is not a multiverse film. No Way Home works as both a multiverse and a personal story (but yes it has a bad set up as I say in my video)
@optillian4182
@optillian4182 10 ай бұрын
What are you smoking?
@spider-man500
@spider-man500 10 ай бұрын
Are you fucking high?
@blue_ig1
@blue_ig1 9 ай бұрын
@@optillian4182probably toothpaste
@Daryl77cornerShort
@Daryl77cornerShort 3 ай бұрын
Flash had Got awful Cgi Af Spiderman No way Home all the way
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