Good choice!

I saw the comment and thought to myself, 'I can't remember those' and then noticed that your photo is somewhat different from mine. I will say though, that I shall be getting my wallet out in the New Year for this.

If I were in a market for a compact car these days, I'd totally buy one. But I know people like their cars more conservative (or boring).

You can use Apple CarPlay, works perfect

Great to hear!

How's the car going 6 months down the line? I'm looking at getting the automatic diesel shine.

@Marek Drives in English Hi Mark, it was a great choice thanks, I have driven nearly 19000 miles as Its my day to day company car. Its great on fuel economy and very comfortable, I have been used to more loading boot space but that's not so important, I'd highly recommend it for sure. I got the shine plus which is quite well equipped, I'd definitely be interested in another Citroën after this. Let me know what you choose, best regards

I ended up with a Countryman. Great to hear you're pleased with your car.

Okay I got the shine diesel auto also.... yesterday in fact....so far so good enjoying it 😊

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks!

French journalists wanted to know what could happen with the tablet and the airbag in case of frontal impact. Citroen replied that the system was designed so that the tablet would not hit the passenger. The support breaks off making the tablet falling down before the airbag deploys.

Thanks! My original pre-covid idea was that around 3PM on a Friday many people are still stuck in the office, and they have an hour or two to kill, before their boss leaves early, and they can evacuate as well :) As for the quality - I suppose we all learn, as we go along, and this goes for my video as well. I know it may sound silly, but it took me 7-8 years of doing this to start playing with manual camera settings, and probably in the last year I started paying more attention to controlling the light (if possible), etc. So if you can see the improvement, it's a sign I'm going in the right direction.

@@MarekDrives Your personality is what sells it. I don´t youtube at work, too much to do, but your videos are always enjoyable, a great wind down from the week. Thanks again.

I've talked about it in 2 other reviews (C4 Cactus, and C5 Aircross, so maybe I'm less excited about it now).

Thanks. I was referring to the more user-centric design approach, which IMO is new to the French. For years whatever they designed was interesting, but mostly unusable, because we're the French, we have our savior-faire, and fuck you foreign peasants :)

@@MarekDrives great reply Marek. That is why I love the French attitude.

LEDs seem bright, because of the white hue they produce. However brightness expressed in lumens can vary depending on the application. As you probably remember, cars 20 years ago had halogen headlamps with manual levelling adjustment. There was usually a little dial or knob somewhere around the driver's knee. Fiat put it in the menu between the dials. But you get the general idea. Then came xenon headlights, which initially were installed on higher-end cars, and were so bright (>2000 lumens) that they came with a self-levelling mechanism. Basically sensors around the rear suspension, which adjusted the beam so that the car with xenon headlights would not dazzle oncoming traffic. This later trickled down to more affordable cars. Some models even had manual levelling adjustment, because less powerful xenon bulbs were used (especially in city cars or there was some some option to get "premium" headlights - whatever is necessary to pull some more money from your pocket :) ). And now we have the LED headlights, which come in two main forms: LED day running lights (because they can be nicely shaped to give the car a signature look) + halogen headlights, and full LED headlights. The latter can be 2000 with automatic self-levelling mechanism. From there we can go into more complex solutions, like matrix LED and laser lights, which are so smart, they will adapt to the type of road you are on (based on sat-nav information), your speed, etc., and they will "cut out" oncoming traffic. It's hard to capture on camera, but I tried for example in the "living in a 7 Series" video (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sL53abWqx5yqZ4E.html), the A7 Sportback video (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a7xyf5eZ1syvZKM.html - this one probably shows it best), and the E 53 AMG video (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iaukea59vqiqdnk.html). It doesn't look like much on camera, but with a naked eye there's like a darker square forming around the oncoming car. Also traffic signs are "cut out" from the beam so that you can see what's on the sign, rather than just a strong glare from the reflection. Clever stuff, and very good if you often drive at night in poorly lit areas. You can see 500-600 meters in front.

And how about this C4 led lights? They are at least average? What about cornering function or high beam function?

It's a city car, and the lights are not the brightest.

Eventually.

Hopefully you'll share photos from this beauty on Twitter! If you didn't understand who am I, it's greekcitroeniste!!! 😏😏👍👍

@@greekcitroeniste8232😂 κοίτα να δεις

@@Da_StormtroopeR Κι εγώ έπαθα την πλάκα μου μόλις σε είδα εδώ!😂😂

I don't think we get Kona diesel here.

@@MarekDrives 😕😕

It's a different generation of the same car. Similarly I missed GSA.

@@MarekDrives How they use the GS (A) in the advert for this car. That, for me, only emphasizes, just how ugly this car is. I feel there are too many angles in the bodywork. look at those back lights which are in two pieces. Why? At least no fake exhausts or air intakes (maybe)???

The double exhaust is real.

@@MarekDrives not really a different generation of the same car as it was not built on the same platform...

You are probably right. It's been ages, since I've sat in one of those. In my defence I will say it probably only had radio and simple cruise control on it.

@@MarekDrives you either are too young, which I doubt, or not too prepared on your Citroens. That car had steering buttons even on the very cheapest version. AND the split rear window (through which you really could see).

I have driven both generations of the C4. Now I recall the funny steering wheel from the first gen, which had the middle part fixed. The second gen indeed has some buttons on the steering wheel, and from my reviews of this second gen car, and the C4 Picasso I can't see any buttons behind the steering wheel. So my bad - Citroen was ahead of its time, and then decided to go down the joystick road. Good to see they are back from the dead.

First of all, the C4 is a bigger car than the other two. It's more of a Karoq/3008 competitor. As for value, I guess it depends on how long are you planning to hold on to it. Over longer periods it doesn't really make that much of a difference. Also you should ask yourself, whether the money you're going to get back when time comes to sell is really worth your comfort and pleasure over a few years. These are not investment cars. They are people movers.

Mokka is smaller. It's a 2008 competitor. The C4 is Astra size. As for interior differences, inside the Mokka looks more or less like the Corsa, so it's like that 208 vs. Corsa video. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rqyIiMJenbesgKc.html

@@MarekDrives ok fair but the same engine is there

@@AliHijazi The 20d engine is available from the previous generation 1 series all the way to the 5 series. Doesn't mean you should compare them.

eC4 will be the same as the e2008 I reviewed a couple of months ago. Stop&go ACC is available on many cars. I see I will have to go more in depth next time I have a car with this feature. Because of my work I avoid traffic, and focus mostly on assist features on motorways.

I don't know. Audi doesn't talk to me. I haven't seen the A3 since my A3 Limousine review ages ago.

I’ve watched reviews of the new A3.

Yes, but Citroen lists it along other compacts. Maybe they needed one more to reach 10 :-)

GS/GSA and the BX were indeed the predecessors of the C5 (the so called D segment) NOT the C4. The thing is cars usualy tend to grow but puting GS/GSA and BX alongside C4 (1928), Ami 6/Ami 8, ZX, Xsara, C4 (2004 and 2010) and C4 Cactus (based on C3`s old platform 1 not 2 - so it should be called C3 Cactus really) was really beyond retarded marketing ploy nothing more. www.citroenet.org.uk/passenger-cars/michelin/gs/gs-index.html www.citroenet.org.uk/passenger-cars/michelin/gs/gs-06.html we had one of those www.citroenet.org.uk/passenger-cars/psa/bx/bx-index.html and one of those (among others) and I know the mark very well and I know what I`m talking about.

I have an extensive comparison Tesla 3 vs. VW Arteon on my second channel, but it's in Polish only. Long story short: European (lets call them European) brands have the tech, but are not legally ready for greater autonomy. Also they want to introduce it gradually as part of normal facelifts and new generations. This is their business model. Tesla on the other hand, although it is far from being fully autonomous (Autopilot was a brilliant term from the marketing perspective, although these days it carries an asterisk on the Tesla website), has adopted a business model, which allows for frequent OTA updates, which unlock some of the features, which may not be legal here from the showroom. Tesla vs. VW - Tesla will stop for pedestrians, which VW will not do. Tesla will try and follow the road, once it gets its bearings, VW needs to see the while lines at all times to be able to assist you in driving. AFAIK the full autonomy feature in Tesla is very limited in Europe.

@@MarekDrives I appreciate that and I'll try to watch it in polish with subs. I'm also interested in what Hyundai is offering in their 2021 cars like the new Tucson. They're apparently quite advanced. You can also put a comma two on a toyota or hyundai and have even more capabilities.

There are no subs :( The video is almost 1h long, and was unscripted, so translating it, and adding subtitles just wasn't worth it. I'll add a longer semi-autonomous driving segment to the next review with a decent set of self-driving functions. I wish you left this comment last week, because I was filming the BMW 5 Series, where the semi-autonomous system works brilliantly. I'm currently test driving a Toyota, which is far behind in terms of driving autonomy (at least from the clients' perspective).

It was OK. Anything specific you're looking for?

@@MarekDrivesENG currently I have a Nissan Qashqai which doesn’t have stability control and driving on the snow (Chilean mountains) sometimes get difficult even with snow chains. I’m wondering if the New C4 will perform better with and without snow chains

Qashqai without ESP? Like an early 2007-2008 model? The C4 is a FWD car, so traction control or without, there is only so much it can achieve in adverse conditions. This is by no means an offroader, and neither is the Qashqai.

AFAIK it's neither costly nor difficult, but has to be done well ahead of scheduled maintenance.

German cars are overpriced full stop. In real terms car manufacturing has got cheaper due to automation and sourcing of components from the far East as well as making cars outside of Germany, yet they have not passed these savings on to the consumer, preferring to ratchet up the prices of subsequent new models. Their reliability has also dropped off, my friend has recently had a new A class Mercedes and already he is having reliability issues with the electronics and Air Con.

@@mariojager43 his A class might have a Renault engine

@@ryadhasanahmed5443 He mentioned electronics and Air Con which have absolutely nothing to do with Renault. And by the way we have SsangYong Kyron (necessary evil for towing beehive trailer) with Mercedes 2.0 diesel engine (140 BHP) 2010 and it`s nothing but trouble. So much for "German ingeneering". Prior to that we had Citroën Xsara Break 2.0 Hdi (110 BHP) 2004 - trouble free motoring (apart for regular maintenance ofcourse).

@@tyraela115 there is no German engineering, only German marketing. Check kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qbt5fpp8xNeclY0.html

Good choice!

Depends how big a family.

@@MarekDrivesENG marek 2 childs seats and one kid with seat belt ....toyota chr ???telle your best like please ....man with a briliant speech!!!!!

@@MarekDrivesENGi want one for the city school run ..and one travel per month ..,.usually i travel without my wife ..haha ......hey tell me one best .... like for you ....

For this big a family you want a VW Touran/Sharan or something of that size. Preferably something with three individual sliding seats. I would say Renault Espace, but I don't trust Renault electrical system.

Agreed.

You are right, but Citroen lists them together in the C4 press release.

Please contact your doctor or Toyota showroom :D

@@TheJirator that's why I said city cars! Small cars, I don't trust PSA cars one bit when it comes to electric cars or bigger cars!

@@TheJirator to buy a Aygo made and designed in collaboration with the PSA group? And what about the Italians?

@@TheAllMightyGodofCod it still uses a Toyota engine, the 1KR-FE, which is also used in the Peugeot 108 and Citroën C1

@@autochampwandelen i can tell u are wrong . I own many german cars before from bmw to audi vw and all had many seriouse problems . I have citroen to c4 grand picasso diesel never had issues and is very easy to fix my self to. On german cars all is locked and u need to go to dealership for error codes. Most problematic was bmw

C4. I really like it.

@@MarekDrivesENG thanks

In France or Spain the start and stop works very well. I did not know it did not work when the weather is very cold but I can understand it is due to the battery power with low temperature.

@@stateless4255 its about making drivers be aware of the slippery roads. If you dont have your foot on the gas when the road gets slippery you might be late to react

Actually Citroen has a history of buttons on the steering wheel, but in recent years most of them didn't.

How is it so far?

@@MarekDrives ok it is 3 month old onley got 1600 miles on it it is a brown one

Actually I use the word "comfort(able)" 7 times in this review. Twice talking about the seats. Three times talking about this car's comfort in general. Twice specifically about the suspension, also referring to the same suspension setup in the C5 Aircross and C4 Cactus, and displaying the bloody animation to show how the flipping thing works. So don't tell me I didn't talk enough about comfort! :)

@@MarekDrives You said it has this suspension and it's comfortable, but you didn't really talked about how the suspension actually behave or compare it to other cars like you usually do if that make sense ;)

I suspect it's a case of one size fits all (or at least many) models, so not everything fits perfectly.

Remember when we got the right hand drive Peugeot 206 not only was fuse box left in place so glove box was tiny but the wipers were still left hand drive models so passengers had big wiper n driver had smaller one

Yes, that fusebox in the glovebox situation for RHD markets is hilarious and pathetic at the same time. I remember complaining about something like the Mitsubishi Space Star (the new one) having a rear wiper on the wrong side, but PSA in the UK takes the biscuit.

Emissions go brrrrrr

There's not much to review. It's a crap car in and out, additionally crippled by the centrally planned economy, which was forced to send less bad stuff abroad, and keep the total crap at home. Apparently it was possible to build a decent FSO Polonez, but you had to manually select non-defective parts from the parts bin, rather than install whatever arrived on the production line.

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We had a couple of weeks of snow around February. But we can't get the summer jump started just yet :,-)

Average salary in Poland is about 1k euro a month. Which is why Jan Kowalski doesn't buy new cars (70% are business sales).

Biz or not someone has to pay for that vehicle at the end. They really need to give up the insane prices.

@@MarekDrives This seems to be an interesting topic. If possible, could you make a video about the particularities of your local car merket compared with other countries of the EU?

I don't know much about the situation in other European markets, but maybe I'll do something about the market in Poland.