Lol, that's what I was going to say. Thanks.

No that idea will never catch on

But that would mean you don't need a Smart phone to monitor and track your movements and block them if your social credit score is not compliant.

You would get there faster in a RL Bedford 45mph flat out and even get passed by morris minors lol

Do we have the technology 😂😂 would the boffins not be better trying to get 100mpg out of a gallon of fuel and also decreasing co2 etc therefore NOT HAVING TO SPEND 27K UPWARDS ON NEW CARS 😡 less money for bp,shell etc so less money for the govt ln back handers.

Think covid is that winner, unless the ev scam runs another 5 years 🤔.

OIL, thats one hell of a BIG scam.

Co2 pollution is the bigger scam

@@alleyoop5185 hm, ALL of oil, coal and gas, took 70 million years to create and that stopped being created about 300 million years ago and that oil, coal and gas, trapped a LOT of carbon, then about 200 years ago, Humans started to dig up and drill for that oil, coal and gas, to BURN, thus releasing ever increasing BILLIONS OF TONS, of CO2, (a known insulator of the Planet), into the atmosphere AND if we the Human Race, ignore this, "it (Man Made Global Climate Change) has the very real potential of kick starting WW3, due to nations going to war, to secure the dwindling amount of fresh drinkable water available on Earth" You Tube "potential water wars due to man made climate change", an Indian, Pakistan, China, water conflict could easily happen and they ALL have nukes too, Turkey, Iran, Iraq, is another potential flashpoint, dont forget that Turkey is in NATO too, so a war involving Turkey, would also involve America, the UK and France, ALL armed with nukes too, PLUS, the entire EU too, then there's a potential Egypt/Ethiopia water conflict too and Ethiopia is heavily backed by Russia, Mexico/America is potentially another one and Russia wouldn't hesitate backing Mexico on America's front doorstep, either. JEEZE, to make matters "even worse" the rapid melting of the Artic permafrost, has the genuine potential, to release deadly viruses that have been frozen in the Artic permafrost for up to and beyond 50,000 years, (Smallpox and Anthrax viruses have been detected in the frozen and rapidly thawing permafrost too) You Tube "thawing artic permafrost viruses", THIS is GENUINE SCIENCE, its definitely not some sort of "jumped up, conspiracy theory, hocus pocus, bullshit, dreamed up by, wholly uneducated, doughnut brained idiots, that won't even be alive in 10 years time, due to their old age, and/or their totally unhealthy lifestyles", I now eagerly await your response to this post too.

@@alleyoop5185”CO2 pollution” is an oxymoron. Viruses & vaccines are a monumental scam.

Wow..really..that's amazing state the fucking obvious....😆😂

800 miles that's bullsh1t.

@@DodgeCity111No it isn't. I've noted the diesel I've put in the car since I bought it and the distance I've travelled. It does 70 MPG and I can do 800 miles on a full tank without ever running out, so the reserve is over and above this. It has a 60 litre tank.

I also have a Citroen C4 VTi turbo diesel and get very similar results, never less than 60 mpg and 750 to 800 on a tank full. I Bought that car new 12 years ago and it’s way to good to swap yet. @@williamgeorgefraser

I could get 800 miles in my 1.9PD Octavia that had a 55 litre tank. I miss that fuel economy@@DodgeCity111

Being a female does not come into it If a woman thinks I’m gonna give up the charging port for her then she’s got another thing coming

This shows you don't know how to operate an EV. You use an App to identify charge locations before you travel. In a gas car you fill up and drive until fumes and look around and refill. Cool. Works great. You simply manage the gas tank. In an EV you manage the destination. You set the charge location with an app with maybe a backup. The cars nav system will take you there and will calculate what you'll have in battery state of charge etc. It's just a different mindset. If you drive an EV until near empty and then look around for a charger you're doomed. If it's too hard to learn a new way of travel than yes, by all means stay with a gas car.

@@sunrisejak2709 ok, so what happens when you get there to find that all the chargers are "out of service" with 15 miles range left and the next charger is 30 miles away?

@@Norfolkbiker50 I just drove north to south in Thailand with a Tesla model 3 and the charging infrastructure (while still in development) sufficient enough for that negative scenario not to occur. I drove 31 hours total, 2,200 km, and charged 6 times. I did find 2 chargers not functioning. But the one next to it worked. I assume you live in USA? Technology utilization can be very different in various geographies. I have no concerns driving anywhere in this (less developed) South East Asian country in an EV. Apparently its easier/practical here than more advanced countries in the west. At no time am I concerned I would be in difficulty. Here the charge locations of course are all identified in numerous Apps. The most popular charge network (EV Pluz) has partnered with Thailands largest state owned oil company PTT. The larger locations will have EV chargers and have huge signs also identifying that feature. Frankly I hate the use of Apps and the Tesla chargers are preferred but they are still rolling out their network. I just ordered my 2nd EV an MG Cyberster a cool dual motor 2 seat Roadster. But operating an EV means to manage the "destination" so planning the charge location near where your going is the first order of travel. A gas car you fill up and manage the "tank", drive until fumes and look around for gas and fill up. Cool. Very convenient no doubt. Use the same process in an EV and it's a recipe for stress! 😁 I have now 30,000 completely trouble free miles with about 8 days of those travel beyond the cars EV range. The other 357 days are charged from home. That's 97% of my days leaving home everyday with at least 285 miles range as I top up every night while I sleep. (I only need like 50 daily) So, for me in my "use case" an EV works. My brother on the other hand lives in an apartment and is an "on the road salesman" . I think he should stay away from an EV with a 10 foot pole. It would be too inconvenient taking 25 min to charge when a gas fill up is less than 5. EVs,,,, fascinating,,, but clearly not for everyone.

​@@Norfolkbiker50By the way the App has lots of real time information. It tells you if the charger is out of service and it let's you know if it's occupied. Etc. When traveling a route can be input into the car or App and it will automatically create the most efficient route and will inform what state of charge you will have at each charge stop and how long you need to charge for. Unlike a gas car it's not practical to "full up" at every stop. I drive about 5.5 hours straight between charges and I'm ready for a bathroom break, food, and a few messages and in the 25 min I'm soon out. I guess Thailand has thought this through. Last year 75,000 EVs sold in basically the 1st full year of introduction. The 2nd tear sales direcast is for 140,000 units. But these being attractively priced Chinese makers. The recent Motorshow was packed and more than 10 Chinese auto companies with prices and product equal to their gas counterparts. It's a fun experience seeing this grow. But here too many folks (pick up truck market) should stay with gas.

🤔 at 60mph that’s 15 miles. I’m pretty sure those EVs have quite a bit more range than that.

@@salibabaaway from motorways and dual carriageways, few roads have 60mph+ limits. In urban areas it’s mostly 30 if not 20mph. 15min is then 5 miles.

The Citroen doesn't have a great range and is best used for short runs. My EV has a better range. I can drive from the north west to Southampton without charging. Ranges are increasing all the time. I hope that helps.

@@stephenbirchall941 do the trip in the winter, with the lights on, the wipers going and the heater running. Tell me about your wonderful mileage then. As your battery ages your mileage will shrink. Don’t kid yourself, you’ve bought a very expensive bummer.

@@keegan773 it depends if your car has a heat pump or not. Newer cars do but I don't think Citroen do. With a heat pump, there is little loss. I've never had a problem. The car is fast, cheap to run and I don't need to fill up at petrol stations: it's so convenient charging at home. I've also only had to queue (briefly) twice for a supercharger. Battery degradation is about 1pc a year which is minimal. There are Tesla's on the road with well over 200k miles and the clock and no battery issues. I hope that satisfies your queries. Don't believe all the things you hear on biased social media.

I feel your pain with the delusionists. 2 have come out of their boxes to say you're wrong already , despite this video showing what a nightmare it can . They don't seem to get the fact that people buy what they can afford and have to use it for every journey, long or short, and ignore even a cheap ICE car would've done that trip easy as piss .

@@derekdrummond7544 "even a cheap ice car would have done that trip a piece of piss". Yes and so would most EVs. My Renault Mégane e-tech has a range of 460 kms.

Because its drivel.

I need 15 minutes charging time on the road for that journey - creepy 15 mins :-)

I just took my Mini Cooper Electric, from London to Lands End and back, for a day out, that's a 600 mile round trip, with an EV with a max range of 145 miles, oh, and before leaving London, I charged it up during the day, at my local FREE EV charging point and this trip, went like a dream too.

Thermal runaway would make me scetchy about sleeping in it😗

@@organickevinlondon How long was the trip.all up?Explain what you mean,max range of 145 miles,surely you would have need to recharge at least 4 times?

I like your thinking

@@user-lj9ld8ir1e I set off from London, to visit Stonehenge, (its about 100 miles from London), stopping off to charge at Solsitice Services, Amesbury, to charge up, which took 25 mins, at 50 kWh, next stop, B.P. Honiton, about 78 miles from Amesbury, stopped for a toilet visit, consume some food I had bought with me and had a cup of coffee, and only charged up, while I was doing this, so it had zero impact on my journey time, next stop, Strawberry Fields Farm Shop at Lifton Devon, (ironically, Tony, who lives in Cornwall, and therefore MUST drive up the A30, on a very regular basis, said durin gobne of his videos that, there arent any fast EV chargers between Bodmin and Exeter, Lifton is about halfway between the 2, LOL) its a massive farm shop, so while on a pre planned stop there, to do some shopping, purchasing large amounts of Luscombe organic drinks, that I can get in London where I live, as its only 60 miles from Honiton and my Mini Cooper Electric, easily manages to do 4 miles per kWh, of battery, it would ahve required about 15 kWh of electricity, and the Pod Point charger was a 50 kW one, it would have taken 20 mins to get it to 99%, and I was shopping for that 20 mins, so once again, that charging stop, had zero impact on my journey time, I did actually stop before Lifton, at Postbridge, to check out the Bronze Age bridge and gift shop and information center, I could have charged up there too, as there was a 7 kW, Pod Point charger in the information centre car park, but I couldn't be bothered to do that, from Lifton I drove to Tintagel, to visit Tinagel Castle, spent some time there too, without charging, then drove on to Lands End, about 100 miles in total from Lifton, I know there is a Gridserve EV charger at Lands End as I've used it before, so I just slapped my Mini Cooper Electric on charge while I checked out the local area on foot, so on the way back, I left Lands End on a 100% full charge,. stopped to charge at Lifton, again, I was getting a bit tired by then, due to a diversion off the A30 earlier that evening so a 20 min charge break came in handy, next, I stopped at Exeter Services, for 2 coffees, one to drink and one for the flask for later, 20 mins and I'm back on the road again, for the A303 to Amesbury, and NOT the M5, M4, Bristol, London, as that A303 at night, keeps you wide awake, last charge stop at Amesbury, for 25 mins, a coffee and cleaning the mud out of the car, and giving it a vacuum, with my portable mini vac, from there, it was a 2 hour drive to my home in London, arriving home after 690 miles, with 25 miles of range left, (I'm an ex international HGV1 driver, so I KNOW exactly how to organise a long journey, no matter what vehicle I'm driving) as for the "range" of my Mini Cooper Electric, I know it will easily do, 100 miles in mid winter, at 72 mph, with the wipers, lights and heater on, off 70 mph roads, it will easily do 120 miles and in the summer, off 70 mph roads, it can do 170 miles, at the speed limits, (thats 22 in a 20, 32 in a 30, 42 in a 40, 52 in 50, and 62 in a 60, to me, so I NEVER have to worry about speed cameras either), and not below the speed limits, the car I had before I bought my Mini Cooper Electric, was a Mini Cooper 1.6 litre petrol, so it was easy, to compare these 2 very similar cars, as they are basically, EXACTLY THE SAME, other than their engine/motor and drivetrain, and the Mini Cooper Electric, shits all over the Mini Cooper ICE, it even outperforms, the John Cooper Works Mini too, the quality of the Mini Cooper Electrics handling is superb on all fronts, each week, I usually take it, 30 miles outside London at night, for a 20 mile spin around a forest, especially when its either, freezing, snowing, thats a bit rare, or when its pissing down with rain, as "its just like being on a Rally" (the B roads through Dartmoor in Devon between Exeter and Lifton, were just as twisty, and up and down some steep hills too), oh, and while in London, I charge up my Mini Cooper Electric, for FREE at my local 500 meters from my home, EV charging point, so it really is "incredibly cheaper to run, compared to a Mini Cooper ICE too".

Selfish, planet-hating luddite!!! 😉

I’ve taken the precaution of buying several 20L metal jerrycans and filled them up. Gives me a full tanks worth of “home charging”!

How much petrol/diesel can you legally store in the U.K. ?

@@davecooper3238 30L. Though I’ve seen far more than that in people’s garages while filming KZfaq videos. Anyway, careless storage of 25L can easily be more dangerous than 50L stored well. The motorcycle tanks on my bikes are over 30L. They’re more hazardous than a 20L brand new metal jerrycan. The law is an ass.

@@GT380man My bike tank is 19.4 litres. It and its mounting is fully type approved. Which is what counts. I am no longer involved in fuel sales. But the sites Petroleum Licence restricted sales to :- A maximum of 10 litres to be dispensed into a container designed for the carriage of petrol/diesel. To stay within the terms of the Petroleum Licence we could only allow the filling of one container. A customer could use a Jerrycan but the pump had to be turned off if the fill went over 10 litre. It’s one of the things Trading Standards used to look out for. A Petroleum License is in some ways like an a alcohol license. Loose it and your fuel sales are stopped. Don’t know if it’s still the case but Trading Standards were even allowed to padlock pumps. Have people storing over ten litres OKed it with their insurance companies. If they haven’t it may adversely effect of a fire claim. Excessive fuel storage is something that will appear in a Fire Brigade report.

You’d have five irked people.

Imagine the arguments and divorce rate increases 🤣

or the radio on

True!

They all lie, a lot. More than 100 miles less range than they claim.

When your petrol car says 10 miles left and runs out should they recover you then?

@@barryrathbone It doesn't though. Moreover, that's a margin of 10/600 or 1.6%. Compare that to an EV which might drop to 0 from 20 miles in an initial estimate of 150. That's an error of 13% and will catch people out as evidenced in this video.

@@barryrathbone I've never known a petrol car to do anything like that though.

Or buy a Tesla 300 mile range a super charging network

@@jimsouthlondon7061Not every one can afford a Tesla,you w@NKA.

@@jimsouthlondon7061 How would buying a Tesla assist in moving other EVs around?

@@HarryLime49A friend tows a caravan with a Tesla.

@@davecooper3238 He must enjoy sitting at charging stations.

Bad luck with the visa.

@@claudiushempstead9893 It made it a challenge to get there, but it proved the nonsensical nature of EVs. The relief we felt as we drove onto the ferry, the pleasure of that first pint in the bar afterwards. It was a very satisfying feeling to what was a brilliant road trip😀

---and you don't spend ages at the pump when you do fill up. My wife's Honda 90 wouldn't even take a gallon and we filled up one day later week after week. 20 mile journey each day, home to work and back.

Or do it in a Tesla ?

​@@jimsouthlondon7061Oh, you're on fire??? 😁

Why? Have you not noticed all the chargers that are everywhere?

​@@brianbarcroft9167 He wanted to get there without having to hang around 6x (minimum) longer than what it would in a petrol or diesel vehicle..

​@@jledge8715I drove 6.5 hrs in my EV. From Toulouse to Cassis, east of Marseilles. Stopped twice, once for a coffee break and once for lunch, 17 and 24min respectively. Car was charged before I was ready on both occasions.

C4 would blow it further down the road than the battery can carry it.

Could be worse, it could be a Burn Your Dwelling

they're ... not there

Lapping up content like this is, yes. EV's are progressing quickly. This car had already been updated so will now do a realistic 200+ miles, which for a small battery car is good.

It's not about the technology or range. It's all to do with tax. In the UK BIK tax on company cars dictates the market. A switch from a Mercedes E-350d to a Tesla MY LR saves me nearly £30,000 over 4 years. That's a lot of money. Which is in my pocket. Not theirs.

Well billionaire Elon for one:))

Well, I always hear them saying that these cars are so quiet and they love the torque 🤷🏻‍♂️. Plus the best thing is being able to charge at home. Few of these people acknowledge that not everybody owns a house

for now only tesla worth buying rest of EV they got very slow charger

Hardly no one wants that's why they force them!

The reason people buy them is because they are fast and cheap to run. Range isn't really a problem. For the environment, it's best I think to stick with your Citroen but when you need to change, I would suggest you should at least consider an EV.

Just think of all those van drivers who are being paid to deliver goods but are sitting at a charger for hours if they can find one.

I agree if people have bought privately and need to do any long trips, but don't forget many company car drivers have been forced to switch to save £££ on BIK tax. I have a BMWi4 and so far have been able to plan all over the UK - OK yes some longer stops than I'm used to but I always plan for fast DC charge, and when it saves me £400 taken in tax every month out my pay packet I'm OK with that. I would never have gone EV unless it was the tax bribe.

They'll become hotpots for muggings. I bet there's no single women sat in them at midnight like a sitting duck. Next there'll be big cages round the charging areas and security booths to pay for. And another 1 million cctv cameras. It's beyond farce.

I understand dogging goes on in scummy carparks..?

​@@69jonhillbeat me to it😊

​@@69jonhill my thought exactly 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Where am I going to get my next fix?

get a grip you Luddite.

I wonder why someone would complain because something wouldn’t do what it wasn’t designed to do.

He will.

Not with an electric recovery vehicle!

Saved from the brink! Apparently, dealers have to sell a certain number of EVs per month/year or get fined thousands for EACH CAR under that number that they don’t sell. I’m just glad I’ve got a Skodiaq which does 50mpg on a short run (with heater, heated seats, radio and climate control all on) 🤷🏻‍♂️

Think you need to get a life....😂😆.

Haha - I've been charging and having a tab at all sorts of places too - you are right, I'd have been blown up on a forecourt. 🤣

lol

Bank holiday is coming 👍 😂

Can we book our charging spaces in advance on the app 😂😂😂

@@clairemorrallee5625 B E V and Breakfast 👍🫤

I ment arse

Imagine all the dodgy batteries on 2nd hand EV's cause the original owner couldn't be ask charging in the optimum range for battery life 😂😂😂

that "so called 15% 85% rule???" ONLY applies to, first generation Nissan Leaf, as they haven't got a Battery Management System.

Really? The charging speed doesn't slow down over 80% then?​@@organickevinlondon

@@organickevinlondon So you know more then Elon musk?

@@Wiganpilot that stuff about Battery Management Systems, is just BOG STANDARD common EV knowledge.

Spreading cancer

@@jimsouthlondon7061 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

its a diesel electric, it burns diesel to generate electric and runs on electric, IF it just ran on diesel the tickets would cost a fortune.

​@@organickevinlondonIt's a diesel hydraulic, with no electricity involved whatsoever except for its auxiliary electrical system for lighting and control systems etc. Its Cummins engines, one beneath each coach, drive the inner wheelset of each bogie via a Voith fluid final drive by way of a cardan shaft. Sorry that the facts of a GWR Class 150/2 DMU don't actually support your myth.

@@blackjockofmangertonpele A long way from the Maybach/Voith mainline diesel hydraulics of the 1960's - the Warship and then the Western Class. Used to catch a Western up to New Street, then Class 47 traction stock to Doncaster, change for a DMU to Hull Paragon, and finally the twin unit railcar to Withernsea where my Grandfather used to pick me up via his Sunbeam S4 motorbike.

​@@phils4634Wonderful experiences my friend ❤

@@blackjockofmangertonpeleExcellent post. I like to read expert comments.

like my Mini Cooper Electric hey, keeping me local to my home in London, UNLESS I'm in Cornwall, which is somewhere I go regularly.

if you picked up an ice car with 170 mile range that someone had been grannying around at 50mph and then you drive it at 80mph and accelerate hard, it won't do the 170 mile range initially stated. The range adjusts to your driving and consumption.

Or choose between breathing in cancer and asthma

@jimsouthlondon7061 like the kids mining the resources for the batteries?

I have to choice between my 5 litre V8 TVR or my Skoda Superb Greenline. TVR all the way. Best smiles per mile anyday and that sweet V8 sound . Awesome 😊😊😊 plus I make far fewer stops than that C4 EV potential explosive inferno waiting to happen 😂😂

​@@colingregson8653 I only have 1 choice, a 4.3 V8 Lexus LS430 and I'm fine with that 😄

I think Jim has a ev and now it’s worth 000000💷

Funny enough I was thinking the same thing, even better if you can afford to sit at 55mph

40 mph would use even less energy, 20 mph less still. There's a balance between getting there in a timely manner and driving slowly, especially in a piece of shit ev that does about half its range in real life and takes bloody ages to charge

​@@ghvtgYou know that the same is true for ICEs do you?

@oldgit15 well the first bit yes, but obviously not from 'especially....'