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Citroen XM - A futuristic magic carpet

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Today, I’m going to tell you a story about the flagship Citroen car of the Nineties - Citroen XM, produced from 1989 to 2000.
The XM was a successor of the iconic Citroen DS and CX and a sibling of the Peugeot 605. The XM, with its huge windows, swift lining, sharp skew angles, and stamped side strips going along the whole car looked like a spaceship for its time - unusual, audacious, breathtaking, and impressive.
Citroen couldn’t win over German competitors in dynamics or handling but it had a lot of advantages in comfort, equipment, and price.
With its complicated hydro-pneumatic system combining the suspension, steering, and brakes, the XM had probably the most comfortable suspension in the whole history of cars.
The combination of the exterior, interior, and mechanical quirks and features allowed the Citroen XM to easily win the title of the European Car of the Year in 1990 and 14 other international awards leaving the closest competitor, the Mercedes-Benz SL, way behind.
The Citroen XM wasn’t a car for an active driver. But it probably was one of the best cars in Europe for long-distance travels and family trips, especially in its wagon version.
And if we combine its unusual look, outstanding engineering solutions, controversial handling and quality, and the importance of that car for the French auto market of the Nineties, we can certainly say that the Citroen XM definitely was a very interesting, remarkable, and significant car.
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@famousutopias
@famousutopias 5 ай бұрын
The series 1 with DIRAVI steering is the version I like the best.
@chrisbiewer-rallye-info
@chrisbiewer-rallye-info 3 ай бұрын
Hi, I own a Citroen XM Y4 V6 (1998 with facelift and the newer V6) since November 2018 and use it as my daily. Most of your video is very informative and accurate. But as @famousutopias I have to absolutely argue your comment that the suspension is dangerous! 11th July 2020, we were on a dead straight A-category road at the allowed 100kph when just in front of us an SUV pulled out of the forest. There was no visible junction and I checked later it was a tiny forest road with a no entry sign. I could not expect that. Heading straight towards that SUV I could slow down to around 80-85kph, then I had to decide in an instant: Either crash head on into him or steer to the ditch. Head on at that speed I would not have survived, so I went for the ditch. Ditch spit me out the other side, I even had to steer accordingly as the road itself was dead straight. This XM allowed me that. I hardly even felt it in the steering wheel, XM ploughed through that ditch at 80kph as if it was nothing. I am absolutely convinced every other car I ever had before, that included the XM-sister Peugeot 605, a Peugeot 205 GTI, a 4x4 Subaru Impreza, would have rolled in that moment. The XM simply was not botherted by it at all! I had a 15 months old baby on board! This XM not only saved my life, it changed the life of my son forever! Accepted mine is the newer Y4 (1994 facelift) with the hydractive2 suspension, I would not be able to tell you how bad an early Y3 was in conering. But I do doubt a lot it was bad. Ever heard of the Elch/Mouse test the XM’s little sister Xantia Activa is to the day the best and safest car ever in this test. This Xantia is also 1998 and did not even have ESP. And this test is about cornering, hardly possible that a Xantia without ESP beats Ferraris, Porsches and the likes if the base car was so dangerous? Another observation is: Why do people think Citroen HP is not sporty? Again mine is 1998, so sadly I do not have the DIRAVI steering any more. But what everybody forgets: The brakes going over the HP means the big Citroens do not actually have a brake server. No brake server means yes a little more foot power, but far less brake pedal travel, firmer pedal, the LHM oil instead of brake fluid means it doesn’t attract water, it will never boil, never vapourise. It is always the same accurate brake feel! It simply does not know brake fading! Even if you load the rear, more weight on the rear = more pressure on the rear = more brake bias to the rear, the car always behaves the same and is super easy to handle. I had a Peugeot 205 GTI before and of course it would be brave to say the XM is as sporty. But the 205 GTI had a short wheel base, was nippy but also bouncy on the rear axle and that could indeed be dangerous at high speeds. The XM has not only the stiff and accurate brake pedal, bumps and holes on the entry of a corner just do not impress her one bit! Absolutely nobody with common suspension manages a combination of soft ride and sporty accuracy like that at all! The car is functional as well with its tailgate, large boot (biggest estate, though mine is a conventional one) and I keep hearing auto testers saying it feels much smaller than it is, which is pretty much hitting the point. I had the 605 before, I had it for 8 years, I loved the 605, but the 605 did feel like a heavy car and still would not have safed my and Julian’s life on that 11th July 2020! I loved that 605 to bits, I had it many years, but the XM is more functrional, more comfy, but most surpising of all: a lot more sporty, engaging and fun to drive! Nearly like a 205 GTI, only safer too! Where the 205 GTI was wild and fun, yes the XM is less wild, but carries my kid, pram and luggage and it still is a lot of fun! Vandalising corners the 205 GTI gets unsettled, the XM doesn’t get unsettled at all and its brakes are way more accurate and pointy too, and that exactly because of the HP! Final remark: RELIABILITY: The system is even quite simple, but a Citroen trademark. It is tricky for nobody else developped into this direction (sadly not even Citroen after falling into Peugeot’s claws). YES: If you lose pressure you do have a serious problem, suspension, steering, brakes, all gone at once... But what people overlook: This system runs on 120 bars pressure. The pipes are stainless steel and constantly filled with mineral oil. They do not rust! Not even after 26 years (which is the age of my XM). If there is a leak, then it is a return pipe, they are made of rubber and yes they do age, but you can basically fix that with a piece of garden hose! Maybe that is over simplified. But I hope I gave an understandable description why this system is so great, and in fact simple, and in fact not dangerous at all. @famousutopias had his life saved twice, I had my life saved and my son was saved from becoming an orphan aged 15 months. There is a reason why I will never ever forget the date 11th July 2020! This suspension system is neither dangerous, nor complicated, sorry! This car saved my life and changed the life of a loving son who was at that point only 15 months old! It saved my entire family! This wet grass deep ditch, I still can’t believe she just ploughed through as if it was nothing. Come the next corner, she still is sharp and fun to the day! HP Citroens are comfy? They are far far more than that, they are safe and fun, right in contrary to your video!
@wurstmotors
@wurstmotors 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@rohan_of_arc9895
@rohan_of_arc9895 2 ай бұрын
I would absolutely agree- I have a later 3.0 V6 from 2000, probably one of the last ever produced, and it always surprised me- when you start to push it out of the stereotypical driving style associated with hydropneumatic Citroëns (ie start drive more aggressively and assertively), it is actually responsive and fun to drive in this way. Benefits of Hydractive 2? Quite possibly. I love how you have compared it to your 205GTi and not found it wanting, considering the size and class segment the car was produced to compete in. Matches my findings. Always found it very capable on smaller single carriageway UK A roads. I find it bizarre that in the UK the XM does not appear to have reached proper classic status; it is a wonderful and idiosyncratic motor car quite unlike its contemporaries. In use it was more reliable than most of the Mercedes I have owned over the last decade. It deserves proper recognition. Mine is sadly off-road and in need of restoration. But I will love the XM until the day I die.
@chrisbiewer-rallye-info
@chrisbiewer-rallye-info 2 ай бұрын
@@rohan_of_arc9895 Thank you Rohan, great reply and analysis. A V6 from 2000 would really be one of the last ones. Mine is from March 98 and one of the rare manual ES9 V6s. And I think the manual gearbox helps the sporty impression. My 605 was auto and was comparatively lame and felt heavy despite having the same engine. Yes, the 205 GTI comparison seems daring, but I opted for a drastic comparison to underline the surprising sportiness of the XM. As you say, maybe it is a Hydractive2 thing? Many remember the 205 GTI as this nippy, nimble hot hatch. But testers have said the XM feels much smaller than it is. And again thank you for confirming my observations, saying that the XM is responsive and fun to drive. Of course the XM is not as nimble and light as a 205 GTI, but when you want to have an engaging fun drive, it is amazing how much feel you get from the non-server HP brakes and at the same time she is not unsettled at all by bumps and pot holes when entering corners. Where you might have to fight the 205 GTI, the XM simply is sovereign and does exactly what you want her to do. What you say about single lane A-roads, funny, you know what a dream of mine is? Take her to a huge UK trip again. I used to live in the UK and visited at least annually, but see this unfortunate time frame: I got the XM in Nov. 2018, I got a baby boy in April 2019, so a bit careful with long trips, but then Covid 19 happened, Brexit on top of it, so I haven’t been to my 2nd home for 6 years now :-( My big dream is to take that XM to UK, the drive up to UK will be very relaxing, but what I really can’t wait: I have to take her over roads like Honister and Hardknott pass and similar! I have done so before in the 205 GTI and in a 106 Sport, but I am sure that XM will surprise me yet again! And maybe that again shows how amazing this HP suspension is, how it can combine both Worlds like none other. The 205 GTI and 106 Sport = great fun on those bumpy A-roads and passes, but a nightmare to drive them on the motorway up to Northern England or Wales. I could take a Mercedes S-Class up the motorway, but it will be boring and frustrating rubbish on Honister etc… The XM is not only a perfect cruiser, she is very responsive and accurate, yet doesn’t know bumps? Can’t wait!
@oscanmil
@oscanmil Ай бұрын
Tengo mi XM 2.0I 1992 en Argentina desde el año 2008 y lo sigo usando diariamente, podria comprarme un auto 0 km, sin embargo mientras este siga funcionando no lo cambio por nada en el mundo, es un auto con personalidad que disfruto de conducir
@rileybenstead3574
@rileybenstead3574 19 күн бұрын
I had a 1992 3.0 V6 XM and had it for many years. I really wish I hadn't sold it.
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 Ай бұрын
The design of the XM is indeed an interesting and complex story. Although officially called a Bertone design and as such indeed penned by Deschamps when he worked there things where a lot less clear behind closed doors. Firstly it carries a lot of details which where developed by Citroens own styling department for earlier studies. Also the final detailing was done internally, which still influenced the front and rear styling. Furthermore the interior was designed by Citroen itself. I actually wrote a few articles about it for the Dutch XM club magazine, called Ambience Extreme. Let me know if you are interested.
@wurstmotors
@wurstmotors Ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I would definitely be interested to learn more about this fascinating car.
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 Ай бұрын
@@wurstmotors Just sent an email to your website. 🙂
@wurstmotors
@wurstmotors Ай бұрын
@@marcbrasse747 Thank you!
@xm222
@xm222 Ай бұрын
Beautiful car and very nice movie 👍🏻😊
@wurstmotors
@wurstmotors Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@famousutopias
@famousutopias 5 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t characterize the suspension and handling of a hydropneumatic Citroen as. “Dangerous”. That’s the most wrong headed thing I’ve ever heard. I credit that suspension and brakes with saving my life on two occasions in the DS. I’m in the USA so I’ve never driven an XM. But I have driven CX and GS and owned DS, ID, and SM. Still have an ID19. I assume the XM suspension brakes & steering performs at least as well as those much older models. Outside of that, this video is generally very informative.
@wurstmotors
@wurstmotors 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 Ай бұрын
I fully agree. The XM is a very comfortable, safe and stable car with big roadholding reserves. I own one and for instance made a nearly 4500 km holiday roundtrip in it in 2023 from the Netherlands to Sardinia and back. It performed flawlessly, also on narrow mountain roads surrounded with overspeeding Italians in small cars. You actually need such circumstances to truly appreciate the Hydroactive 2 system. It is often said that even the later C6 did not improve on its excellent comfort and handling, even in spite of it having 4 more spheres yet!
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 Ай бұрын
A few more corrections: 1) The hydraulic system has only 1 pump. The rest is controlled by valves. 2) The steering system is still directly mechanical. The oil for the steering power assistance system is however taken from the hydraulic suspension system via a pressure reduction valve. In every other aspect it is however strictly conventional. Maybe that hydraulic connection confused you but since the car already creates hydraulic pressure it doesn't need a seperate hydraulic pump for the steering system. That was already the case in the DS. 🙂
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 Ай бұрын
The roadholding of the series 1 is already excellent, although the later Activa 2 system indeed improved it a bit further. If you want to make it “smaller” and a bit more “German” you only have to put it in the sports mode which switches off the extra spheres. Wihtout these the steering is actually rather stiff for a Citroen. The handling is NEVER cumbersome or dangerous! The only strange behaviour is that it sometimes raises and then lowers its rear suspension if you stand at traffic lights with your foot on the brakes. It then tries to correct the fact that the nose is fixed in a bit of a nosedown stance. They should have introduced a 6th standstill sensor to fix that. But it’s nothing more then an amusing quirk once you get used to it. Furthermore other road users often are amazed by it. And lets face it: The XM is the last Citroen in which you “take off” every time you start it after more then a few hours. You are however right about the many early electrical problems but they mostly affected the lesser important luxury stuff. Irritating but survivable and the series 2 version indeed fixed most of of those problems. The bad reputation is mostly being sustained by those who never came close to one. 😁
@wurstmotors
@wurstmotors Ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 Ай бұрын
Mine is a ‘96 Verde Vega Turbo CT to which I added a series 1 grille and single seat steering wheel plus the ultra rare aerodynamic Seduction wheelcaps as seen in your video at 9:34 min. Mmmmmm! 🙂
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 Ай бұрын
Erm, I off course meant that I added a single SPOKE steering wheel! 🤤
@kiritanJ
@kiritanJ 7 ай бұрын
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