Even with this warning, I wasn’t prepared.

Glad this was the first comment I saw

thank you for your honesty ...i think like you that the 2 styles are so diferent ....the north american ice school and the eropean ice school ....in fact it would be better to have 1 style makes both !!!! a dream i supposed

Manick i mean they do train with the same coaches, but definitely have different styles

President of the canadian federation in the jury killed it for them.

your post should be the role model of posts. V/M won, thats cool for me as a P/C fan. one of the two teams had to win, it was a close decision and the better competitors these days won this event. they were flawless and the French made mistakes in the SD. I am sad but the outcome was perfectly right. well done: 5th olympic medal, third gold- wow legends.

Oh, Torvill and Dean were in PyeongChang? Must've missed that.

kerstin28 I

YOU'RE BLIND TOO, WOW!

wow, how shallow to judge a team by describing their looks as standard: p/c being tall, long legged and long armed. i guess ice dance federations should begin pruning their ranks of teams who don't have the height, long legs nor long arms, even if they have both the technical and dancing goods. *ehem, the shibs? maya certainly doesn't have long legs nor long arms nor the height. maybe she shouldn't be an ice dancer ;)

I agree :) they have a physical appearance that helps their elegant dance, all long and elegant. It is not discrimination, it is description. Some people like musculate tough looking people, some prefer thin classical and graceful people. They represent the ultimate elegance for a french person. I'll wait for them at the next Olympics! Une telle élégance est rarissime, cela ne m'étonne pas qu'ils ne reçoivent que des compliments sur leur grâce par les professionnels. On se rappellera d'eux dans l'histoire de la dance sur glace grâce à leur style particulier

Sabarna Das

toronto girl girl what?

3Axel1996 That probably explains all the empty seats in the arena.

Very disappointing Olympics. I believe lowest viewership ever.

The seats were all sold out. This happens at every Olympics.

Delicate, don't you mean with barely any difficulty?

You can skate like that? Please tell me where. I will come and watch.

NOW THERE'S AN EDUCATED RESPONSE...ILMAO! AVEUGLE?

@VIRTUAL WORLD DISORDER REALITY CHECK HAVEN I am a Canadian and a fan of V/M. Stop insulting people just for the fun of it. It is disgraceful and uncall for. And don't come back with the excuse that the French are doing the same thing on the V/M video because my answer will be: Be more respectful of yourself (and of Tessa and Scott), and don't put you to their level. People have the right to prefer the style of dancing of P/C. And it's not true that their program was not difficult. In fact, the base value of the executed elements was exactly the same as V/M for the FD.

She is just jealous, that judges prefer P./c and find them better skaters

Oh, thank you for mentioning their technical skills. I totally agree, I don't know why people seem to think they're better technical skaters than the canadians. They skate almost the entire program on 2 feet, . They're are unison, but their free leg seems to be just thrown out, not extended, like they can't wait to put it down, so they can be back on 2 feet again. At times, it looks quite messy . As to artistic merit, me. It's been done forever by the Russians, nothing new here.

North americans be sour cause they know they robbed this.

I know, it was so slow and lame... except for that 1 spin!

a cry of boredom

Me too! Apparently not everyone understands the concept of elegance. For me it's the same difference between Moses Pendleton and Alvin Ailey or Philippe Découflé.. One is athletic (yes very well executed) and one is only beauty you can't feel any effort because there is no show of capacities, only dancing for art. Very different things. The same people who don't go watch contemporary dance is not gonna like Papadakis and Cizeron...

they were. and they are real winners of the worlds 2017. canadian corruption cam made +3 for fall on step sequence.

it was the " similar way " for Marie France Dubreuil and P Lauzon in France ( LYON ) with a coach = Romain Haguenaueur

Lots of athletes train in another country than the one they are competing for. P/C moved to Montreal after their coach, Romain Haguenaueur move there and P/C decided to move with him.

Also , you have Bruno Massot ( gold medal in couple ....) who is french and skating for Germany !!!! In your country you have a great chance concerning the number of skating stadium ....in France ; we have just a skating stadium in the biggest cities ......and they are public with priority for school the week and families the weekend ..... We are a " Football " country ....all the skaters must go away for training .....it's the raison for what a medal is very important for us ....a good request ;more money for the federation

Thanks for the Information. I know that skaters go where the best coaches are. That would probably be Canada, Russia and Japan? I was rooting for C/ P at the Olympics. Im not a fan of V/M. Cizeron is imo the best male ice dancer today; My other favorite was Charlie White.

Izza same coaches as V&M

+Derek To AND CAN YOU? can you do what p/c does? much less v/m's? let's see it then ;)

If I could, I would achieve at least a medal at the 2018 Winter Olympic Games, lol. I am not comparing or judging g/g against anyone. I am talking the arts of the sport. Please don't be prejudiced by your support for v/m.

+Derek To by saying "For those, who don't appreciate this artistry, I bet they can't do it themselves", then you are being prejudiced as to the skills of the fans/viewers who watch ice dance, but not necessarily appreciate p/c's "artistry". like i said, can you even do what p/c is doing? and besides, none of us casual fans are actual judges of this sport, but we can do CRITICAL THINKING of the sport aspect of this discipline, right? do we have to have the skills to be able to do some critical thinking of this sport?

I entitle to my opinion and you entitle to yours. I don't think much of people, who said that certain skaters are boring or overrated. In the spirit of the Olympic games, it is not about getting a metal but the fortitude in participation and the courage to perform in one's best ability. You can do as much Critical thinking of the sport aspect of this discipline, please don't be critical of those had the fortitude and courage to perform, presenting their countries. If you don't have the skills to comment on skaters, it is best to leave it to the judges at the Olympic Games. Judges at the Games are there for a reason, right!

and just comment on "artistry?" hahahaha this is a sport, not just "ballet" on ice. and can you do ballet yourself so you can say you're more "credible" at commenting on the "artistry" of ice dance?

They’re p/c and not Gand G. Have some respect for Gordeeva and Grinkov.

Poor Gorrdeeva and Grinkov compared to that...

I know right?

that as you say is one beautiful and elegant danse, effortless and flying on the ice, I've never felt such emotions while watching ice dancing. It may not be as technical as you want it to be but I feel like I'm not the only one touched by their performances. You're entitled to your opinion only

Who are you to tell who they are ?

Thank so much

yes !!!i agreed !!

Beethoven

Because the twizzles were not botched and the malfunction wasn't enough for a deduction. Read the rules, thanks.

Ha. Those twizzles were a mess. The lift was off and the whole skate was tentative. I won't even comment on the silly pop song they chose to skate through -- all the way through. It's an exhibition number! They do not skate as one. He is SO much better than she is. This should have been 5th after the short dance.

well, overall, it was not a great olympic memory to treasure. i know they were not even happy with their scores in the SD because they know for a fact they were a mess. false achievement.

the ice turns into gold while they skate? WOW! how brilliant. no wonder they got silver.

Because of the wardrobe malfunction the previous day adds up to their current points (points gained from free skate)

They got a higher score than the Canadians for this piece. I think Moir and virtue got a 122.40 and these guys got a 123.35 for their free dance aka this one. The Canadians were 1.7 points ahead after the short program already. So they took the gold by a fraction! I mean I frickin loved the moulin rouge piece, that was their free dance, that was amazing! But just to let you know. Technically these guys scored a tiny bit higher here. I mean the level of artistry and technique is sublime for both couples anyway!

How would you perform your twizzles with your top coming off and exposing your breast at a time where everything is mocked on social medias and knowing you have to go on ? Acknowledge that it messed with Gabby and that her mind was on the program AND on trying to keep her top on herself. Whether or not it's the origin of the mistakes, only Gabriella can know for sure. For the rest of us, we can only speculate.

Their fault. Wardrobe is a part of being a figure skater. Dumb mistake to make and it cost them. Oh well. V/M are superior anyway.

Their fault ? How is it their fault ? Gabriella can't turn around her head at 180 degrees to see if it's ok. They had someone to take care of that. She did not. Since the accident, Guillaume is the one to sew the costumes. If someone is responsible, it's that lady in charge of the costumes who, obviously, missed something. Besides, they have a coaching team for that. If skaters could do everything themselves, there would be no coaching team. Everyone failed them and one can wonder if this was not on purpose. Besides, please, don't make statements like "V/M are superior". Scores during the olympic season say otherwise. And in the end, it came down to the skaters who were the cleanest. It happened to be V/M. But at the GPF, it was P/C. It was close.

You are misunderstanding at least in my case. I just wish that rivalry would come to a 4 clean skates from both teams. That type of malfunction occurring right at he most important competition of the quad? Big shame. Canadians deserved to win but I just wish it would happen in a competition without this.

Just because they skated to classical music doesn't mean it's boring!

Kiki49 im ne za izili a povysili baly. Osobenno v korotko tance.

M K вы в фигурном катании хорошо разбираетесь? Вы видели как скальзят французы?на харошей скорости мягко, нежно легко и непринужденно! Вот за это и ставят высокие баллы!

Julia : in fact this sonata have a story .....when Beethoven wrote this pièce of piano .....he was very sad and depressive after a love affair without future for a young Austrian countess ( 17 old for her 40 old and more for him ) and in the same time he became deaf .....very hard for a musician !!! I think P/C translate perfectly the sadness and also the romantism ( we are in 19 century it's the romantic period in Europa ) For me the traduction of music on ice dance is a perfect moment , i see no P/C nor Beethoven but both in the same story .

well , but i think in Canada the " temperature is MINUS ....it's cold ....and for me it's good in the south of France we have sun and a spring temperature ....also ...i prefer to be out of my home ....sorry for you !!!

VIRTUAL WORLD DISORDER REALITY CHECK HAVEN you are looking at the figures for which video ? The CBC ? Those videos are limited per IOC broadcast regulations . We do not have access in Canada to US or French or other broadcasts , so your comparison is entirely pointless. What exactly is your point ?

At this moment we have the european cup of football ....in europe no photo between Foot and ice dance .... also your comparaison is false .....

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It's not about emotion, it's about a blade on ice... they will be overscored in future for sure! don't worry, they're not going to round up EUROPEAN JUDGES and kill them all, sadly...

Really? You are a sore fan of the winner? Why? Because Papadakis and Cizeron set another world record in the FD and beat Virtue and Moir in the FD? Do you realize that your comments diminish Virtue and Moir's win? For a fan of the winners to feel compelled to diss the silver medalists says a lot about your character. I am not an expert. But I do know that ice dance commentators always comment about P/C's blades on ice and the fact that in their routines they cover much more of the ice than do most ice dancers. So I doubt that you are any kind of expert in ice dance. But since 2014, I have noticed this about a significant minority of Virtue and Moir's fans. They are mean spirited and find it necessary to diss competitors even when Virtue and Moir are not competing. V/M fans did this to Davis and White when D/W competed on DWTS. And V/M fans did this to Papadakis and Cizeron during 2015 and 2016 even though V/M were not competing. And when D/W won the gold in 2014, they were dissed by V/M fans over and over and over again. I enjoy reading comments, and "no" I have not observed the fans of other ice dance couples be as mean spirited and so persistently mean spirited towards other ice dancers as are V/M's fans.

DONT TALK TO THAT BITCH...she is jealous, every time ... In FS everyone is overscored beside Teass and scott, those lousy , slow skaters who have programs like corny , cheap, tacky tv show , they are fanatics, they hate on p/c eveywhere, even on those events where v.m arent in. tjey will be hating on them until they will stop skating, they are jealous losers

Keep telling yourself that....

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Ce ne sont pas tout les canadiens qui sont arrogants. Tu ne peux pas généraliser l'attitude de tout les canadiens par les commentaires de trolls qui se trouve sur KZfaq. Il y a autant de commentaires de trolls français dans les vidéos de V/M. C'est une guerre enfantine de sans esprit. La majorité des canadiens respectent les athlètes des autres pays et leurs "fans". Tu n'as certainement pas lu certains commentaires que j'ai posté antérieurement sous cette vidéo...

Izza , je dois reconnaitre votre fair-play et votre justesse d' analyse .....sans renier vos préférences , ce qui est tout a fait a votre honneur ....vous gardez l' esprit ouvert merci ....

Joly Patricia +izza +manick Patricia ... l’arrogance, l’impolitesse, le mépris , ne sont pas l’apanage d’un seul pays. Ce genre de comportement ne connaît pas de frontière, c’est comme pour le racisme. Pour ce qui est d’une juge présidente de fédération, c’est un règlement de la ISU. Ceux qui y voient une manœuvre ou manigance de Patinage Canada sont de mauvaise foi. Le juge français, ou russe, ou américain aurait pu être président de sa fédération. Cela ne veut pas dire que cette personne soit automatiquement incapable de remplir sa fonction première de juge, dans l’impartialité. On a déjà vu des juges d’autres pays subir l’influence de leur président de fédération, avec tous les jeux de coulisses associés aux olympiques. Cela était monnaie courante à l’époque de l’ex URSS.

Pour moi les jeux sont finis ...inutile de parler des règles pour les jo 2018 ....comme je l' ai écrit V/M ont fait le job ...2 programmes parfaits techniquement ....je n' aime pas leur patinage ...mais c'est mon avis et il vaut ce qu'il vaut et n' engage que moi ... Par contre ce qui serait a mon sens perfectible dans le futur serait pour l' ISU d' améliorer ....peut être la composition du jury ( les 3 derniers couples médaillables n' auraient pas de juge de leur pays pour la FD ....

No they're not!!! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bs16eL2CvduseXU.html&feature=share

It was pretty obvious to people who know about skating. Shib sibs are not even close to as good as P/C. Sorry to blow your reality.

@@dimapoc5853 I would disagree. She has some sloppy edges in this

@@jena5634 Well he makes up for that. Also the shibsibs dont have as nice choreography.

@@articello they're a team. If people want to hail them as brilliant they should both be sharp. And I would disagree with that

I highly doubt that 12 points was just a fluke.

For the world championship 2018 in Milan ; they won the gold medal but with 3 records ....SD , FD , and total ....i think if their skating was so easely ...it could 'nt be possible .... V/M was great champions ....they made a great career ....now it's seems to me ....we must turn the page ...and sincerely their " cunniliftus " not missing me !!!!

And for me i love your young skater Kaetlyn Osmond wonderfull in black swan ....a gold medal well deserved , bravo

mistake on the twizzles for SD ....here they talk about the FD ....you write too quickly !!! After you can' t compare the notes between 1990 and now ...because the rules of ISU changed at the beginning of 2000... Also for me the difference between Usola /Zhulin or other ...is the speed on ice ....i think also the material change , the technology changed also ... Usola /Zhulin or Klimova /ponomarenko...i agreed they was great champions ....but the skating is different ...like for exemple ....Katarina Witt and Alina Zagitova ....it's different but also 2 great skaters ...

I was referring to a mistake in the twizzles here in the FD. In their third twizzle they were out of sync.

Extraordinary !!!you are the only one person who see a mistake on these twizzles ...neither journalists , nor tv reporters , nor judges , nor youtubers on this forum ( 750 ) saw that .... either you don't know nothing in ice dance , or you are blind , or you are just a dirty troll who , said some stupidities and lies and puts her shit on the forum ??? but your opinion is uselessand without arguments ..

Manick pause at 1:08 and you can see they are out of sync. They are overscored in GOEs.

It's not a match of football with a video .....now if you want to play this game ....i can see again the V/M videos with the problems on the twizzles and always overscored ......your are'nt fair .....and also not judges , or journalists , or tv reporters ......

French would have win the gold, it would have been the same, they deserved a gold medal. The Canadian won only cause of the canadian judge in the Free. (No french judge and canadian judge didn t give a single 10 to the french but 4 to the canadian, others judges gave an average 3.3 times a 10 to the french (each judge give 5 marks))

@Cedric L Except that there are only 7 scores that count for the final score. The highest and lowest score are not taken into account, so the score from the Canadian judge did not count.

Maybe your gay and looking at him... she's a so so skater...

c'est manquer cruellement de respect aux aveugles qui ne vous demandent rien , et ne vous agressent aucunement !!

THEY DON'T LIKE NICE MUSIC? YOUR A MILLENNIAL I BET...

shut the hell up you absolute moron

Pour eux la musique est secondaire ....ils peuvent patiner sur n' importe quelle musique ....mème les moins " commerciale comme en 2017 !!!