Its made that way purposely to confuse people which is why nobody knows their rights and cant defend themselves in court always needing an attorney. Its by design. Most dont know their all caps name is a fraud along with thier bifth certificate

@@greenstreet5287 your rights are simple. The ATF has NO authority. Especially the authority to write, change or in any way effect law. None of this bullshit is actually a law.

@Diesel Ramcharger it doesn’t matter. They still haul your ass to jail. So clearly they do have authority. As for who should be concerned about these “rules”. If your gun is going to be seen or used in public you should be concerned. As for the rest of us who really cares?

Kinda have to know how this mess came about. AR-15, while it is America's rifle it wasn't that wildly popular until the aughts. Yes, I know AR-15s have been around since the 50s and Colt commercially sold them in the 60s, it wasn't a popular platform. It wasn't until 90s when the upper was redesigned to replace the carry handle with a rail system it started getting traction. Now the short barrel rifle became an NFA item when NFA was instituted back in 1934. Now in the 90s, AR pistols weren't really a thing, sure there was the OA93 but not much after that. That period was more of the beginning of the AR-15 custom build era and the focus was on rifles. It wasn't until AFT tried to sued Thompson Center for their Contender/Encore system in '92 that caused all of this. That ruling alone made it possible for a pistol to become a rifle. But the not rifle into a pistol because of the NFA's regulation on SBRs. So all of these decisions have to be based on the judicial ruling of US v Thompson Center case. When people explored the AR-15 rifle format people looked for what else can be done. So in the aughts, they started exploring the pistol format. Now since receiver served the same functionality of the TC Contender/Encore frame in regards to being a pistol, the same ruling had to apply to AR-15s. So a "pistol" receiver into a rifle and back to pistol is an exception because of a SCOTUS ruling and not because AFT wanted to let you bypass making an SBR.

@@DieselRamcharger The ATF isn't writing or changing laws, but they are mandated with a task that effects law. The ATF is only trying to interpret these idiotic laws and trying to comply with previous court rulings.

Yeah that's my thing too, because if thats true, my AK-V with SBA3 was illegal straight out of the box.

It's a logical progression of questions to meet statutory definitions.

Exactly they said the brace is an accessory and not necessary for function of firearm. The length of pull should be measured from end of extension tube without brace attached, same as they measure OAL. Why would you even measure LOP for something that is designed to be shot one handed. Defund ATF.

Up Your's Troll

Up Your's There’s a lot that you’ve missed if you don’t know what this video is about? Inform yourself or otherwise your abject lack of knowing anything about the topic and your over the top kiss ass reply lead me to the assumption that you are a troll.

Up Your's Complete failure to stay on the topic or try to inform yourself of the topic at hand makes you the troll and Your last reply confirms it I doubt if you are an American. 🇨🇳🇷🇺

@Up Your's Do you actually want an answer? I'd think most would assume anyone watching this channel knows the answer or is at least capable of finding it.

@Up Your's "your the smart one" Irony, lol.

Correct. These "rules" are set cause someone, somewhere thinks that 26" is the magical number that makes a rifle no longer concealable. All the extra BS of brace vs stock, and vert grip vs handstop is just to scare people into not wanting them.

These are gotcha game rules to extort money from otherwise law abiding folks.

Sure they do, that's why we want to break them. If these rules didn't effect the function we wouldn't care.

one could argue pistol braces are unsafe for 7.62, when not fired from the shoulder, from weaker or smaller shooters but it would do more harm to current laws than good... IMO they should modernize the law, and base it with research, logic, and real world data, but that's not gonna happen.

@@everydaygear3730 One could also argue that women are sane and rational creatures, but you'd both be wrong.

Now there's an answer I never thought of. But it's logical so I'm thinking ATF wouldn't know the answer 🤣

finally someone who gets it..

Now that’s a response to commit to memory!

Kotaboy32, you need to find out more on the LOP and pistols! This man has a point! Pistols don't have stocks, hence no length of pull.

Boom.

Owed? Absolutely no one on this Gods Given Earth owes you a damn thing. That being said, an executive order would be a nice thing to be given :-)

@@racheldolezal738 😅

National Hearing Protection Act!

Lol what’s funny is the only president ever backed by the NRA did absolutely NOTHING for our firearm rights but restrict components, accessories, and state his opinion regarding “take the guns first, due process later.”

It’s called the 2nd Amendment. We should rise up and squash the government for treason.

having escaped CT, Naugasuck valley, I feel for you

New hampshire is right there

And now CT is trying to ban others

Just found this video and after looking at buffer spring tubes I had the same thought. Glad to see it confirmed by Mfgr. Avoids potentially creating new functionality issues from shortening buffer tube and more spring precompression.

"volunteering information to the government" Is that not what he is doing on here with all the Videos?

Is it not also what you do when you file your taxes?

@@snek9353 File taxes? What are those???

*RIP to your dog

@@xSP3CTREx i already shot my dog for terrorizing the chickens. My trigger finger is itching

Bald&curious don’t like the word loophole. Concedes the point that everything we do should be regulated and anything that is not is an oversight. Don’t give these guys that power.

@@cannedjam6191 unfortunately NY is already heavily regulated . so this would be the only option to get AR style firearm , unless you get NY compliant abomination :) , but you are 100% right

CT as well

But would they still throw you in jail if you were seen with such a setup? In my experience the overwhelming majority or "law enforcement" officers neither KNOW the laws of this country and their state, nor do they CARE about acting in accordance with said laws. In their mind, the law IS what they THINK it is, or should be, and that they don't even necessarily HAVE TO follow what they think is law, at least not ALL the time. And 9 times out of 9, trying to explain what the laws actually are, and that you are not in violation of any of them (thus making them wrong and their judgment being faulty; damaging the high self-image they usually hold of themselves) will result in the officer(s) becoming defensive and angry, which leads to them escalating their hostility towards you and further violating your constitutional rights (which they also do not know, nor care about), usually ending with you in jail, charged with just as many offenses as they believe they can lie about and reasonably justify to their superiors. Sometimes you just end up dead, and they claim you were assaulting them or reaching for a weapon, and typically no questions are asked and their actions are deemed 'justifiable'.

@@logancurl9526 wow , not even sure how to respond to that . I'm sure you are right to some extent . Probably better off having him arrest you right away and explaining your case to the judge. Either way it's gonna cost ya.

@Stuckgrenadepin You do you brother, but a brace/buttstock has a lot of advantages even outside of recoil management. The SBA3 was a game changer for a reason.

@Stuckgrenadepin Bro... Do you really think that buttstroking is the only reason for using a brace? The index point of a brace or stock just makes coming up and getting a sight picture so much easier and faster, and using it to manage the recoil makes follow up shots way faster. It's not about "being able to handle the recoil". It's about managing it effectively so you can deliver more shots on target faster. Even with a proper stock a key to shooting fast and accurately is recoil-management, even with 5.56. I got my SBA3 with an entire LPK for $130. There's a reason AR Pistols have absolutely *blown up* since the Advent and proliferation of the SIG brace. It's a goddamned game-changer.

Do you only have one spoon in your silverware drawer? 🇺🇸

Bureaucracy exists to perpetuate bureaucracy.

except they aren't truly laws.

@@CrazyPalidin57 I totally agree man. And if or when they as in big corrupt government brings this country to its breaking point i highly doubt their petty self proclaimed laws will mean anything. I guess time will tell.

That’s a no lol

@@christianarcos4333 ATF enforces unconstitutional laws that should not be enforced or followed by any true American. Gun laws are illegal laws any unconstitutional law is illegal.

@@kevintipton4738 and "patriots" everywhere are just sitting on a paper we call the second amendment. While we're just sittin there doing nothing, democrats and the ATF are treading on every right we have.

Wait, you’re NOT supposed to do that either?

Sounds logical. You shouldn’t be committing adultery. Humiliating your wife like that is embarrassing

@Stuckgrenadepin I tried to explain to my woman a few weeks ago, while showing her how to work my AR rifle and pistol, these different laws regarding barrels stocks, and such. Her response: "That's just retarded!" My reply: "Welcome to the Gun World, Babe!"

@@bigd7861 fucking A

Question for a friend. If a stripped lower receiver is labeled "reciever". Can a AR pistol still be built? I know pistol which is 16" below cannot have a vertical grip, or butt stock. But the confusing part is , is does a stripped receiver Have to be labeled a certain way? Like example "receiver pistol"?

@@techti8792 if you buy just a plan lower receiver its considered other, not Rifle or pistol because it's neither until that type of upper receiver is put on it. That's why if u buy a lower first thing you put on it is a pistol upper. Thin you can go back n forth. But technically if you put 16" or bigger barrel upper first you can't go to pistol legally. Is what he's saying, I think. Say you buy a complete AR-15 carbine. 16" barrel. That gun has a serial# that goes with that gun. That # says weather it's a rifle, pistol, shootgun. There for you cannot legally turn that carbine into a pistol because the serial # will say carbine but you got it configured as a pistol. Now you have altered the gun and it is no longer what the serial# says it should be. ( if you have a run in with law enforcement with your gun and they run that number and it comes back as carbine but you have turned it into a pistol or SBR. short barrel rifle ) so if you buy a complete gun it cannot be altered different than what the # says it should be. But with a plain lower receiver you should be able to do what you want win you want cause that s# is neither pistol or rifle, its considered OTHER.

So I don't need to cut anything like KB suggested?

Happy Easter, All

God is good

U mean ATF is approving efile/form 1's in "normal time"?

I am highly considering filing mine

@@ThecrazyScotsman For me its worth it a stock is much better than any brace!

@Stuckgrenadepin not entirely true, I travel all the time throughout the year and file the form one time, and takes a few weeks if busy. Not an issue.

@Stuckgrenadepin ok

Can someone show how to J.B. weld it? I’m sure it’s not hard I would just like to see it done.

@@drewdunc75 I'm just throwing it out there and waiting for someone to comment about it. Just seems that It's furthest rear position. If it only lock in the first 3 then the next 2 on the proprietary buffer tubes then IF it did contact your shoulder it's going to collapse and therefore not useable in those positions. I'm just looking for a simpler solution. I THINK the original Kak blades make it even with the folder. I'd have to try one.

Ed Hlavaty I’ve read in forums people have done it. Filled the hole and the channel.

*by* design. Buy = purchase

Milton Oliver I live in a state where the only A.R. 15’s you can buy are others. Any questions ask away and I’ll be glad to answer them as the FFL Told told me AR Others are basically the bridge between AR pistols and AR rifles. It’s basically an SBR with a brace and a foregrip

Imagine how confused all this would be without the ATF clarification letters. If we only had to rely on what the courts said.

@@snek9353 shouldn't need clarification. It shouldn't matter what the barrel length is, brace vs stock, rifle vs pistol or anything else.

@@randyemenhiser2573 Sure, but unless you're ready to either boogaloo or get arrested and take it to court this is the reality we have to deal with.

Ehh not really, the LOP makes the brace a stock, making it a rifle.

@@snek9353 ‘em nope look up definition of LOP.

@@kodiak7438 According to the ATF

That's what I'm thinking. If it doesn't lock then the furthest useable position of the brace would be 2-3 holes short

I just posted a comment about people J.B. welding the last hole shut. Would like to see a tutorial on this

I didn't even realize you have to watch the length of pull. I always just thought oal was important for pistols

@@matthewbeaver5026 thorns and thistles to ensnare.

As long as all the parts are used for their intent no modification are needed reguardless of the length of pull. You dont have much room to play with and if you start cutting down buffer tubes then the bcg will not be able to move reward enough to lock back or maybe even to pick up another round. I know probably at least 5 people with folders on pistols and noone has ever modified any of the parts in any manner just build your pistols guys

But, it only has to be measured to the end of the rifles reciever. When they came out with the new opinon about the law folder everything changed again and noone realized it. Those pistol braces are designed in a very specific way to meet the length requirements and the folder doesnt matter. The only way to rectify it if it did would be to cut down the buffer tube as he said. Which wouldnt give the bolt enough room to reciprocate. Making the firearm a single shot. They couldnt include the folder in the length of pull measurement because if they did,it would also have to be included in the OAL. Which would mean you could run a verticle grip on a 10.5 pistol.lol. Its confusing I know. If you had to cut down buffer tubes like I said first,it would be a single shot that you would have to hand feed. Second,he just committed a federal crime and posted it for everyone to see

Freedom Inc. so confusing because i do have a law tactical and want to be in compliance of course. Thanks for the info. And oh yeah he did huh. Yikes. 😬

@@FreedomInc you are a wealth of information if you would start your own channel everyone would know exactly what they can and can't do.

@@dansage3665 just put it together and run it. The only thing you have to worry about is measuring over all length. Measure it with the stock folded. If it is under 26 inches from end of barrel to the folder you cannot run a verticle grip. It brace itself has been deemed an "accessory" and not a part that makes the firearm function amd shouldnt be used when measuring. Do "length of pull" which pistols dont have one, is measured from trigger to the end of buffer tube. Not the brace. It doesnt matter. You have the authority over government. All gun control is unconstitutional and enacting it was illegal on many fronts. If you are interested most people dont realize that the federal government, not even Congress has the authority to enact national sweeping laws that affect you anywhere other than legally purchased federal land. So unless you are on legally purchased federal land as out lined in article 1 section 8 their laws dont apply to you. Now,someone is going to jump in amd say "the supremacy clause". That clause doesnt trump my individual rights. I have 10rhA rights. "Laws" like the NFA are exactly why the anti federalist pushed for the 10thA to be included in the bill of rights. Out of 126 proposed amendments at the convention of states,it made it into the first 10 amendments. So it was pretty damn important. The people of this country habe become so ignorant about how our government is designed to operate they just accept whatever they are told they must do. Its sickening really.

@@rustytaylor7708 if I told someone "if you......" I think I would first check to see "if" they already had. A prime example of why this country is the way it is today. If someone doesnt tell you,you wont do even the minimal amount of research to find out for yourself. Please,dont vote.

Welded and pinned, not "staked".;)

@@chriscline374 Pinned and welded not welded and pinned.

Exept you have to have paperwork with the gun at all times, and have fun if you like to cross state lines a lot and want to take it. Which to me the whole thing about transport is total BS, but thinking that won't keep me out of prison.

And now you can’t travel across state lines without notifying the ATF...no thanks

Nor carry it loaded in a vehicle, bag, etc.

Then you sir are an idiot. Great job caving into unconditional "laws". Morons like you are paving the way for the government to take away our rights.

And,the seperate parts neither constitutes a "reciever" as defined by the aft. Google "ohio judge throws cases out over definition of firearms".

@@FreedomInc agreed. im simply referring to when Kota mentioned that he doesn't know how that determination is made with regard to is upper the "action" since the bolt and firing pin actuate in the upper... though by definition, that would also require the hammer to be considered part of the "action"; but in an AR that is housed in the lower... it's all BS; but I was trying to portray how the powers that be look at it. For what ever reason, with an AR the "receiver" is the lower, thus is the only part that requires serialization, even though per definition, it only houses one of the criteria that in their language constituted a "receiver". I swear they do this shit on purpose... i have a friend who won't get an AR unless it's completely manufactured by a "known" manufacturer, because he swears building your own is "illegal", which obviously it's not; but then you get into topics like this and I can see why people get scared to dive in to building their own...

@@boss350z5 oh,I agree but I have a feeling that is going to change. Give me a few minutes and I will post a link

@@boss350z5 read this. There is a bunch of info if you search on this topic. www.examiner.org/design-of-ar-15-could-derail-charges-tied-to-popular-rifle/

@@FreedomInc thanks chief. great info...

NOOOOO, get out there and walk that parking lot...... It's your hour now!!

Never understood why being first to comment or like is such a big deal.

@@smtbigelow Guessing you never had a virgin... 😉

Big D Why would you want a virgin? You gotta teach them everything!

@@smtbigelow True.

npc

I thought the line was “ stay thirsty my friends”

The funny thing is this idiotic group of murderous thugs thinks a pistol has a length of pull in the first place.

@Howard Black The easiest way to win is to not play. Interpret that how you like.

No

Agreed! Trying to stay legal with absolute certainty, seems like an impossible task.

Yeah cutting his buffer will mess with the spring too