I never win defence unless the attacker is intentionally trying to lose trophies. Years ago it was 50/50.

They should reduce the time upgrade for heroes. I feel empty attacking with no heroes.

I look forward to CWL every month because of only one reason: I can actually use my heroes and they are not just upgrading all the time.

As others have said, the problem is hero upgrade timers, which basically force you to use drag/ e-drag spam attacks.

They need to reduce the heroes upgrade time by a lot. Heroes takes forever to upgrade even more time than the base itself.

Lower town halls are too easy and higher town halls are too hard. It’s that simple. Used to, everything felt like it was equal progression in difficulty but now there are just too many factors that come to play when attacking.

Really hope they will look at heroes finally, especially TH12&13. There are many levels to do, and each one takes almost a week. So you end up with people who either don't do them and struggle to get a 2 star or always have heroes down for upgrade outside of CWL and equally only get 1-2 stars outside of that. People have suggested many solutions, combining levels, a regeneration penalty (like with barracks that are upgrading), a new potion to let you use heroes for 1 hour, or disabling/nerfing the hero ability while under upgrade. There are + and - to each of these, but the current system is bad for the game, IMO.

my biggest complaint is heroes are just always upgrading, feel like ive never got to use them yet

Itzu showed a stat which showed that there is a massive massive drop in 3 stars from th11 to 12 mainly because of the added inferno and the th being a defence.

If you don't have Castle's troops or The heroes,you definitely can not take down any base in range 12 to 15

I think the goal is to make the game easier for casual players. The upgrades are cheaper and quicker and now the defenses are a little easier to deal with.

The basic problem is, that casual players don't have the option to learn the gameplay as they should. Th9 is passing by faster, than you can keep pace with the hero-upgrades. Then the heros become teenagers and thus they are sleeping a lot. There is short time frame at th12 where you can either learn advanced strategies like hybrid or spam in those op witches 🖤 Then comes th13 and you have to do at least 20 levels on the rc, to make some use of her.... and the ship moves on and on 🎶 The other point is the issue with the supertroups. I don't know anyone, who regularly unlocks two different types of them for war attacks 🤷‍♂️ No practise, no cookies 🍪

Make the heroes available during upgrades. I think that's the change everyone would like.

Problem with edrag and drag spam is that, if you upgrade heroes, you only can use sneak gob or dragons spam armys to do something and gain loot, how will player use hibrid od QC if they warden and queen is on upgrade, totaly miss from this balance change...

These changes won't affect the use of electro dragons. In fact, more people will probably use E-Drags now especially from the inferno nerf. Troop changes obviously need to be implemented as well to change the overall meta.

Im just not certain about these changes I haven’t won a defense in ages but does make it easier to attack if is needed at the highest town halls

They should nerf the spell tower

Even if they cant reduced hero upgrade time, at least, heroes should be available for attacks in friendly challenges

I just feel sorry for the people who haven’t completed ’Unbreakable’ yet. Coming up through the ranks years ago I got defenses constantly and was able to finish it in no time. Now it seems as the TH levels have increased, attacking has consistently gotten easier. I think overall I would understand this if it led to more players at least trying more complex attacks, but I don’t think that’s going to happen. I think the inevitable result is just more e-drag spam, which I hate and think is lazy. I got tired of being in clans that all just did that and wondered why they couldn’t 3 star (which now they actually might) that I’ve just gone through a significant part of the game clanless because it’s more enjoyable.

These dmg deductions is for they want to add new lvls on th 16 But still they will add 2 lvls for cannon archertowers still lmao

As a terrible attacker who only attacks using super goblins, I say this is an absolute win

i feel like a system where the level of trophies youre at affects the statistics of your defences, as in, the attacks become more difficult to pull off the same thing when you get to higher levels would make sense. makes the game more accomodating for newer players while maintaining the difficulty for the top level

great vid! I love you kenny always been here for me

I think these are really good for players who aren't competitive 👍

What editing software do you use? Love the edits!

I mainly use queen walk + Miner. I have done that since TH11 and still do at TH13. I do get why though. Would've been a nice touch if there were build time reductions and maybe lower wall cost. Idk I'm just a bit casual now these days.

I respect that Supercell thought about casual players since there are more casual players than hardcore players. And also,,, they can still keep the old settings for competitions and Clan wars if it's causing such a massive uproar*

What i thought they are doing is that they are trying to make the increase per level more normalised so that the rewards for upgrading at higher town halls is the same, but with supercell stating that they will also balance th 15 to make it easier that idea no longer applies. Overall the changes don’t really bother me to much.

I remember playing this game on its beginnings, i stopped playing because late upgrades were so expensive that gathering the resources before someone stole all of it was getting too annoying. It gets to the point you wanted to have it on for as long as possible so you couldnt be invaded.

I like this I don't like looking at the screen 24/7 while farming it's sometimes fun to just drop your army and get a 3 star in 2 min.

Honestly as a th10 player this is really nothing as of now because in the end they only trying to see if their would be more player to really casually play with these new balancing changes and for the actively player better hope for them to have excellent base defense 😁

Hopefully it helps. My clan is always mismatched th and people are too scared ro attack higher th.

That’s wild, there’s gotta be some risk when attacking within your trophy/Th range.

I have been playing for like a few months and what I have seen is that defense is a lot harder then offence I am able to win every single attack but even after nearly maxing out my base I still never win and defence

I support the changes in the TH inferno damage. Since it can attack 5 with the other infernos on multi. Does a lot to your army. Which is why the invisible super troops archers strategy works well because it takes away all the splash defense. My thinking is they could have lessened the time of the poison bomb. I think the poison spell is much shorter than the TH. So make it fair time.

the biggest problem right now is the hero upgrades with the separate equipment grind when you can’t even use heroes on attack when upgrading

Maybe there is th 16 is near thats why they are reduce some defence damage??

The problem with Clash is they always seem to do pointless updates instead of updates that are actually needed. It’s like they’re trying to sabotage their game.

These changes are good for a casual player playing for fun like me I have 1 th 13 and 2 th 12 but man those bases are really hard to manage I struggle a lot with defences this is a minor relief to us lower bases and it will also encourage casual players to play with more fun

i support the changes when im attacking, hate them if im defending

Changing your attack strategy Me who is constantly using Qc Hybrid from th10 till 14 .

I have absolutely no problem taking a TH9 against a TH12+ in CWL if our clan is horribly mismatched. I, personally, see it as a challenge and will try it even against well built bases. (And I have gotten that last star we needed or 30% in a tie that put us over the top because of my craziness, as well as lost potential stars because I could have hit a lower TH if I waited another hour or so and taken something no one else was going to take.) However, most of my clan is not crazy like me. Last month, we had a horrible mismatch in CWL and then two poorly matched Clan War battles that we won both times. It was heartbreaking. At least three players are not playing this league despite their continuous support in the past--and one player left our clan completely. (Not that I mind that loss, since our clan is not the place for highly competitive players like him.) There is nothing wrong with being highly competitive--as long as you don't step on non-competitive players and grind them into the ground on your way to the top. All-in-all, this could help with CWL mismatches, but the problem is that few people are going to try to take higher level townhalls because of past experiences. Improving the matching capabilities would help more than these balances. If you lose to another clan that is equally matched with yours, it feels better than if you are hit by someone 3+ levels above you. Similarly, winning a TH that is three levels above you might feel great, but seeing your TH beat by a player three levels below you is not, and it seems like that is what this balancing will do.

the secret patch i noticed first was now the builder base hero has only 2 ability swings now (instead of 3). they might've buffed the damage but it is so inconvenient

It was a buff to ground troops because air troops are almost taking over attacks and strats centered air troops

Glad to see this, just got on my account after a few years and thought my base layout was trash, but no matter what I did l kept getting 3 starred

even this, i still time fail with qc hybrid attack on maxed th13 😂 but my heroes is not maxed out yet. for this balance changes, it might be very helpful for who's are not maxed troops and heroes

i think that they should do same for heroes they did for barracks instead. when heroes are upgrading their recover time should be 3x doubled when they are upgrading

My attack page has mostly wins and my defenses have mostly looses. I'm currently taking a long break, I can't play it hours everyday anymore because I like playing other games as well so when I'm done playing them I don't wanna play Clash right after, I also watch KZfaqrs a bit more rather than playing Clash. I love the new upgrade interface, I think they should update other things too, I don't have ideas though.

I will say in my experience at th13 and 14 my bases have been/are set up to be anti e drag. I have been blocking even most 2 star e drag attacks. I wish they would nerf e drags if they are gonna nerf all defenses. That would actually promote more strategy.

I'm a casual player I don't have time to learn new metas and stuff I just want to have something to do abd check off the list soI'm pretty happy with this

Hardcore player for over 4 years here. (Diehard town hall 10, who's made multiple private google documents about this game for my own use) I do understand why Supercell needs to cater to the casuals. That's part of their income, they have a community, and it's unfair to cater every update to the hardcore players. However, this is not the only update that has been released that has catered to casuals and has heavily changed how the game is balanced. This balance update isn't what bugs me. It's the fact that this balance update has come out when these lower town halls (10/11 specifically) already feel and look easy (both from a hardcore perspective and casual data I have gathered). I have a lot of experience diving into the casual communities; testing war bases against them, watching them hit, and interacting with them, and honestly, I just don't think this will help. For example: At town hall 10/11, when I see casuals fail it is usually because of 1. Their army comp (random troops thrown together) 2. Their attack angle (good army, but they send the siege into the town hall on the edge of the base, or send drags into double sweepers). 3. The CC (Specifically headhunters, super minions, and rocket loons. Seriously, already in the balance update I can show multiple attacks such as 11v10 hybrid fails because of this unmanageable CC. These troops are harder than all of my th10 bases.). 4. Skill (When casual attackers decide to use higher caliber attacks, they accept the fact that they are using an attack that requires more thinking and skill. This reason is actually more reasonable, and usually, the fails are just due to inexperience and small errors such as misplacements or troop walks, etc.) Now I'm not trying to speak for the majority or all of Town Hall 10 players because I really don't have the true statistics, but this has just been my experience. I think this nerf ONLY makes 4 less of an issue. 1-3 will still happen regardless. Bad attackers will fail. Now, I can understand how town hall 12-15 can be considered hard for casuals to the point that it may push them from the game. I notice an unproportionate amount of casuals have no shot against good town hall 12+ bases I've made/used. My buddy has been using the same th13 base in regular war spins and let me tell you, that base has to get dipped every war and has won us so many wars (and even has defended many dips). I even find th14/15 hard myself and I know instantly if I was a casual th10 and it was that hard I'd be discouraged. As someone who makes bases for customers, I can tell you updates that have affected 10 as of recently have made me refrain from even trying to provide bases anymore because of how much of a scam it feels to me. I've started to feel like a hole in the strategic aspect of basebuilding has emerged and grown over time and just made me lose any respect I have for my own craft. I could talk for hours and hours on end about my various perspectives on the game and how I feel, but to summarize it, the game should not be easy. It's a strategy game. Part of the fun I had as a casual was looking for that right war base on KZfaq I thought was so cool because I knew that a good base meant something. Part of the fun for me was looking at KZfaq attacks and trying them out. Failing, failing some more, then learning, and then getting happy with my results. I don't know what fun casuals from 2023 get, but I can only imagine that it's different for everyone and that everyone has their own reasons for playing the game, quitting the game, or even staying at a town hall they like. But what I can say is: If these nerfs truly achieve what Supercell intends, I accept it. However, I think all it will do is make the game easier and less strategic. I think the only people who are mad are hardcore players like me, and I think that town hall 12 and 13 has now stepped into a more balanced casual-competitive phase, while town hall 10 and 11 will start to join 5-9. I really do appreciate supercells communication here because I've felt like these updates come with no warning and no reason. This at least gives one. However, I won't just complain, I will add some ideas/thoughts for casual 10/11: 1. I would love to see a revert on TH10/11, with bans to super minion, headhunter, and rocket loon defensive CC at th10. (it wouldn't make sense to ban the super troops at th11 because they have access to them, but honestly, those CC's are so OP for those casual lower town halls so honestly why not... Maybe lower CC levels can scale the strength of super troops?). Changing these CCs for th10/11 would primarily affect casuals (as the competitive community I know of bans supertroops). Casuals would find it easier to use a skilled attack like hybrid without having to react to 3 rocket loons Usain Bolting and dropping their queen. they wouldn't have to watch as 3 superminions jam a bunch of missiles down their edragons throats. 2. I also would love to see changes to make different attacks more viable at 11 casually (because honestly, I only see 20% hybrid, 5% witches, and 75% drags/edrags.) Dragons aren't even OP at town hall 11, so it's actually kinda of weird. Like all you have to do to defend edrags is space your buildings and the rest is just added annoyance like sweepers, cc, traps, etc. Like pekkahogs isn't a thing, qc hogs are a rare sight, and valks are like nonexistent at th11. 3. The town hall 10 meta feels very dragon and witch spammy too. Pekkas are actually busted, and but a majority of casuals end up using hybrid, drags, and witches. That's it. The rest I've seen usually involve a skilled attacker or just a terrible army that fails. However, my idea to fix this is a bit weird: nerf drags and witches ever so slightly while slightly buffing hogs. I think these attacks are so OP at th10 that if you get good enough with them you won't need to explore other options. Like I know I'm a hardcore player, but I can blindly go in on any town hall 10 base, place some lighting down, spam my troops in a line, and triple over 90% of the time. That doesn't show strategy or balance to me. Anyways, I could talk about how I feel about Clash for hours and hours. I feel like I've bit my tongue on balance updates too long, so I really felt like I needed to say something somewhere. I really hope that just someone, anyone from the casual community, competitive community, supercell, or even Kenny or other creators look at this and reflect on this themselves and even share their opinions with me. I really do love this game and I try to share that feeling with everyone I meet I hope that there is a slight chance Supercell can consider 1-3. Thanks for making this video Kenny

can they make an update where we can use the heroes for war attacks while still on upgrading state,only for war attacks..hoping.

The only defence I have a problem with is the monolith, if my siege machine doesn’t take it out it’s gonna be a 2 star

I think we all saw this coming.. Specially for single target inferno tower... That is still overpowered like crazy...

the best change will be increase air defends hp by proximity 200-250 start from town hall 11 to 14 that will make it having to use one more zap for the air defends that will reduce people from playing E drag and start of think other troop that will be challenging / easier then E drag spams

I am 3 royal champion levels away from maxing out my townhall 13 entirely. Problem with highee townhalls, is that my heroes are always upgrading and I barely ever got to use them. Reduce upgrade time or at least let us use the heroes while upgrading.

Do you remember when you did a req and go clan because I still have that clan bookmarked

i can 3s th10-13 without cc with like 80%-90% hit rate. with these changes, it will be so much easier.

My base is max th12 and I rarely win a defense unless the opponent is throwing for some reason. (1 star counts as a win for attacker.)

I don't play this game for years. I suddenly got this video recommended and man i cant explain how true the title actually is. Many years ago it was not the case.

I consider myself a casual player. I hate the changes, I want my 3 star to be from my skill in the attack I carried out, not because of a defense nerf.

On point, you speak the truth 100 percent

They need to change the upgrade cost/time for heros. I finished maxing out TH13 and i still got a few levels on my king and queen to go

Honestly, I think it can be a good change. But the changes I want to see aren't in attacking more in upgrading (upgrade times). I have about 12-15 accounts and the problem I face most is upgrade times. Recently I took a break and still am because of the time and the amount of loot to upgrade buildings and everything. I can say I am a casual player, and you may think I am lazy but it's mainly progression is pushing me away, it takes months to progress... just 1 building can take up to almost a month, if that's going to be the case I'm not likely to be on because of the outrageous times.

This explains why my LaLo at TH11 has been doing miraculously better then in previous weeks. Im not the best attacker at all, and ive gone from 1 star and 2 stars to four 3 stars in a row now

Do you have a creator code? If so I can’t figure it out

I've never been a fan of spam attacks where you just place a troop and let the horde go wild. while the attacks I do aren't crazy complicated I like to have some mid attack input that makes or breaks the battle. I don't entirely mind the game getting easier because it allows me to stay doing that. Although I do agree with other people saying it does suck to always see yourself being constantly defeated on defense. and dear lord id love to have my heroes to attack. I barely got to use my heroes all of th9 and im just rushing them hardcore in th10 so I get to use them in the later stages

with these changes its easier for players to transition from a lower th to upper th cause these nerfs reduces the instant burst a lower level troop will feel making it easier to farm and also try new strats

Do you imagine if Heroes are like barracks and deposits, so we could use them while we upgrade them? That'd be AMAZING

As a near max town hall 15 roblox player what they need to do for the love of barbarians is reduce the heros upgrade time by ALOT, and make it so you can use heros and pets while they are upgrading, its impossible to raid without them, clan wars is impossible without them, and it takes 7d 4h just to upgrade 1 and imo its the equivalent to not being able to use a troop if its being upgraded in the lab. By the time you upgrade your hero and wait the 7 days your dark elixer is full again and the hero has to go down for another 7d 4h. Imagine oh shoot your upgrading the rage spell and now you cant use it for 15d or your upgrading balloons and cant use them for 15d now, thats how it feels with my heros constantly having to be down. Theres so many solutions to this issue, disable their abilities while upgrading, take off 20 levels while upgrading, give them a longer regeneration when knocked out. With the amount of quality of life changes supercell has brought its just shocking they wont fix this problem with heros

I always said this game lost its balances as the years went on man, it’s almost impossible to win a defense now 😭

These balance changes don’t make sense because of Supertroops… so now enemy supertroops last longer cause canons, archer towers, and eagles, etc. are weaker…

The heroes upgrade are very too long, only now since th11 can I get to use them properly outside the week of cwl, and I'm th14 halfway to th15. But my biggest issue is the walls cost. 2M and 4M for th 12 and 13 are expensive, but you can upgrade them as fast as your buildings if you play regularily. But for th 14, I think that 7 fkg millions is way too much, considering there's 325 walls. That's 2,275 billions just for walls 😳. I won't have even half the walls upgraded when I hit th 15, so I don't see how this is possible if you don't buy the goldpass.

They need to change it so when you upgrade a hero you can still use them for war. Not normal attacks. But for war

I’m a th13 who works full time so I just spam e-drags during work to get resources. I know it’s not the best, but It’s the best reward for effort put in. I don’t support the changes because I believe if you want to push to higher levels you have to get better at attacking

I’m a th 12 that has been in legends league many times I always end up getting taken out because all 8 attacks I’m allowed are th 15s and I think clash of clans devs should really make it to where I am going against more fair opponents like th 12 and 13 maybe. Sometimes 14

I just got to th13 I am always slightly above the bottleneck. Not looking foward to upgrading those heroes. Upgrading to DE heroes at the same time is difficult 3 DE is outright madness. People use edrags cause mainly lab times, that's the only army they will be able to use in a long time.

I'm playing the game for 2 months with gold pass. I'm on th10 and I play like 2 hours a day I attack all the time now I can't spend elixir because I'm full wall up and full lab relevant up. I simply have so much spare elixir and dark elixir. What left was upgrade on dumb units to attak like arches or barbarians. This slow down my game like I can't put lot of effort because I simply won't be able to spend my loot.

I love these changes i love hybrid qc but it became useless in th15

Maybe they should redo attack system? I mean, since you can just choose what village you want to attack, people will always lose defences because everyone attacks what they know they can defeat. Could be a good idea if they make it so you are forced to attack the first village that appears. This would also give more relevance to revenges because that would be the only way to ''select'' what you attack.

They should focus on searching matches especially in legend league

As a town hal 11 i feel The learning curve for attacking at townhall 11+ is very high and not at all rewarding. Which I don't have time to invest into . On too of that upgrades starting to take close to a week dont give incentive to constantly be on or play.

Should I make a rush to max? I have no clan or friends that play this game and if you don’t have clan castle troops it’s hard to win

I mean everything shouldn't be nerfed. But the poison bomb is the only thing that kinda needs a little rework.

Biggest complain i hear from my friends who all stopped playing is that the time upgrading is too long

fascinating

for me i think it made it harder because the players I went against before probably want to new ranks .(I'm a rushed th12 in champ 2 most likely because training potions) I'm also getting 3 stared more offen. I've notice instead of a mix of th12s and 13s it almost only 13s that aren't rushed

Just make the heroes usuable even when they are being upgraded, and the attacking will become 10x more eligible

Lol I definitely feel challenged maxing base w/out heros job well done sc. (Sarcasm)

They have good reasons for these balanced changes, despite the backlash from higher level players. But can we still just have a miner nerf for the e-drag (pun intended), even if it's like hp drop or a change to the mechanics of the chain lightning! It will probably just encourage casual players to continue e drag spam from th-11 upwards and have the opposite effect as attacking is even easier. If you want to stimulate new strategies for casual players while still keeping the e drag helpful for those same players (not hating on e-drag), I would focus of buffing/nerfing troops instead of defences. But it's just my opinion so I guess go off :/

Just went to TH14 the only hard raid attacks are th15. They should've cut upgrade times instead. On th14 most defensive buildings are 16 or more days at least they are giving us the New Builder.

I have been grinding CoC for the last 6 months, I'm a TH11 in Champ and I literally just won my 10th defense last week.

At least they didn't nerf the AD. My bases are still unbreakable for those dragon spammers 😎

So this is why my base was 3 stared. Seemed normal 80-85% attack strategy and troops, but an anemic defense by my village

Yea even i as a th 15 i dont bother try getting into a new attack strategy. If i get 2 stars 70% of the time with dragons, im happy eneugh. And even with this strategy, im basically just hovering just below legend league which i dont want to participate in. Im just here to upgrade and see the numbers go up.

Bro im not really that hardcore I have done legends twice th10 and 11 but I suck at e drags but the vise versa I’m really good at queen charge attacks so idk how to feel about this lmao

I like this, not sure if thats unpopular but TH11s above get pretty difficult. (im TH10 im also a casual though lol)

I’m good . As long as everyone evenly is effected. It’s not really a problem IMO.

This update is going to make it so hard for th 11 players,since electro dragons can now destroy a base more easily

Upgrades defense* Update makes upgraded tower weaker than before* Sadness*