Classic Overdrive Pedals, Do They ALL Sound the Same? - Klon vs Tube Screamer vs Bluesbreaker!
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Күн бұрынAre classic drive pedals really that different to each other? From the Tube Screamer to Klons & Bluesbreakers, Lee & Pete put classic overdrive pedals and some affordable alternatives to the test! Let us know your favourite in the comments! | tinyurl.com/29gp34u7
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⏰ Timestamps ⏰
» 0:00 What We Are Doing Today!
» 0:34 Which Pedals Are We Looking At?
» 3:36 The Guitar & Amp
» 4:04 Boss Super Overdrive SD-1w
» 7:44 Ibanez TS-808 Tube Screamer
» 11:33 ProCo RAT
» 14:34 Marshall BluesBreaker & BlackBox Overdrive 2
» 19:57 Klon Centaur & Wampler Tumnus
» 24:27 Nobels ODR-1
» 27:26 Fulltone OCD
» 31:29 Comparing Them All!
» 34:21 How Similar Can They Each Get?
» 41:00 Discussing Similarities
» 42:03 Changing Pedal Order
» 44:15 Some Conclusions!
» 45:42 More About the Guitar & Amp
» 46:33 Pete Picks Two!
» 47:00 Outro Jam With Pete's Choices!
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@timhopkins3810 Жыл бұрын
“I bought that from Thomann” said Pete. The camera fades to black and returns with digital John and the Captain to finish the video 😉
@davedavem Жыл бұрын
🤣
@planzed463 Жыл бұрын
😂🤚🏼
@TheJoern 5 ай бұрын
,,,and he shall never be seen again!" :D
@dogsbodyish8403 Күн бұрын
Pete Honore found hanging upside down in a forgotten dungeon somewhere!
@DougMen1 Жыл бұрын
The Boss SD1 is crazy good, and an absolute icon, and should have as much legendary status as the TS808 has. The only reason it doesn't is because the 808 was used by SRV. Furthermore, the 808 costs $180 and the SD1 costs $60. It's a steal at that price.
@AD-kv9kj 6 ай бұрын
And all these overdrive circuits are basically the same thing just with slightly different amounts of gain available in come and slightly different EQing that can generally be adjusted in the mix anyway.
@blondiejoe 5 ай бұрын
The SD1 was used by Eddie Van Halen too, though not as consistently/prominently as SRV used the 808. It is such an underrated pedal! Mine was $52 brand new.
@davecooper360 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I sometimes just run an SD-1 into a clean amp with reverb and it sounds incredible! Like a Tubescreamer, it makes the guitar sound bigger. Two different but equally great sounds.
@Dr.Jekyll 2 ай бұрын
Zakk Wylde uses the SD-1. I much prefer his tone compared to SRV.
@Dr.Jekyll 2 ай бұрын
@@AD-kv9kjThe SD-1 seems to be more aggressive than the Tube Screamer.i do t think that’s EQ or gain.
@poliboneless4658 Жыл бұрын
I think that the boss blues driver should be here!! Nice video
@frankieconcepcion7860 Жыл бұрын
absolutely should
@steffenbrix Жыл бұрын
Yes
@clydebillingsworth8574 Жыл бұрын
Isn't that one just a tweaked blues breaker? So it would kinda defeat the purpose of these being kinda classic originals. Then you could add the prince of tone too though...
@jonbailey6052 Жыл бұрын
@@clydebillingsworth8574 it’s definitely not a blues breaker circuit, completely different.
@steffenbrix Жыл бұрын
@@clydebillingsworth8574 I think the BD-2 came before the blues breaker... and well, to me, the BD-2 sounds a lot better. I had a Blues Breaker in metallic casing for years and...just on the shelf. Didn't really like it 🙃
@davidsiffer4374 Жыл бұрын
The sd-1 really is a secret weapon, the eq curve is less drastic than the ts and all 3 knobs are usable through their whole range. It also stacks fantastic before and after other overdrives, whether it’s adding grit and sustain to a transparent od or tightening up a high gain distortion, the sd-1 is the perfect 2nd od for your signal chain
@HIGHTOP203 Жыл бұрын
and it's WAYY louder than a TS9. Perfect for boosting
@ryanteacher8134 Жыл бұрын
I post a similar comment on almost all overdrive pedal videos lol Everyone deserves to have an SD-1.
@samuelxavier2473 Жыл бұрын
Sounds good stacked with a BD-2. Either one first, they work well together.
@0megalul309 Жыл бұрын
@@HIGHTOP203 didnt know that, cool
@ryanteacher8134 Жыл бұрын
@@samuelxavier2473 Yes! I stack mine with a Soul Food pedal. Gain up on the soul food, then put the SD-1 in front of it with the gain down/volume up. Sounds incredible.
@pCeLobster Жыл бұрын
SD-1 is in a category of things that are extremely famous and yet still underrated.
@steffenbrix Жыл бұрын
It was my first drive pedal ever....but I always found it a little "middy muddy"..and too much lo cut. Now, the OD-3 is seriously good overdrive. That just does the same - way better. But just to my ears 😊
@AndiKravljaca Жыл бұрын
@@steffenbrix Depends on what you need - the SD-1 is perfect for that 'boost a distorting amp' situation, since what you want is an aggressive low cut, but the OD-3 is best for an overdrive sound into a cleaner amp.
@TheCyberMantis Жыл бұрын
If you own a Marshall amp.... you must have an SD-1. Simple as that.
@Smitty_Werbenjagermanjenson Жыл бұрын
Though I respect it, I never got along with it. I think the BD-1 is much more flexible and "better", as far as Boss overdrives go.
@O.D.E.GuitarSoundtracks Жыл бұрын
You're right, i love it
@YawpMusic Жыл бұрын
Nobody thinks to turn gain on the Rat down, but it sounds great with gain on zero. I wonder why they didn't do that here.
@ec8107 Жыл бұрын
Agree, the Rat is great at all gain levels. Tube screamer into a low to mid gain Rat is glorious. Together, they're a better Crunch Box.
@friedrudibega6384 Жыл бұрын
A great circuit!
@bobbyjarvisjr9818 Жыл бұрын
100, shame they didnt compare the RAT at low gain, sounds great
@bigblackshed639 Жыл бұрын
The Rat does three very different types of overdrive / distortion / fuzz, all depends on how much you turn the gain knob. It does a glorious boost as you’ve said.
@RJW14 Жыл бұрын
Dave Gilmour had it at 1 or 2. I never turn mine up past 10 o'clock.
@notplaying2379 Жыл бұрын
The SD-1 was my first pedal, I’ve never been without one since. I’ve tried posh overdrives, I always end up making them sound like the Super Overdrive. I’m a cheap date.
@O.D.E.GuitarSoundtracks Жыл бұрын
My First One tooo
@dogslobbergardens6606 Жыл бұрын
The SD-1 is like the small-block Chevy V8 of overdrive pedals. It's easy to work with and it just plain works.
@drewsollars2239 Жыл бұрын
Well it's the first and only od pedal I've ever had, or needed, but that black box sounded really good...
@louiscyfer6944 Жыл бұрын
that was me until i got some better pedals. now the sd-1 just won't cut it. the tumnus, the kingsley jester, the precision drive by xts, the jetter gainstage red, the jt audio valveboy, lovepedal church of tone, etc. iinni⁸⅞8⁹
@notplaying2379 Жыл бұрын
@@louiscyfer6944 You devil. I've had a Tumnus, it just wasn't for me, I liked it until I started hearing some clean signal mixed in, I don't like that in a drive pedal. I'm a complete Philistine, in a world of fine dining, I'm eating a Big Mac.
@sroelit Жыл бұрын
Funny, a video that proves many overdrives are capable of very similar sounds, and my response is “oooooohhh, I really need that one.”
@calebafile4306 Жыл бұрын
As a guitar player that mainly does metal, boosting my Marshall with my SD1 is one of my favourite tones ever.
@JGStonedRaider Жыл бұрын
SD-1 + JCM800 = godmode
@benlogan430 Жыл бұрын
The SD1 is the real secret weapon! $49 and almost any amp sounds the bomb diggity.
@DefenderTIM Жыл бұрын
@@benlogan430 I even use it in front of my MFX units from time to time. Adds a lot to the digital amp models.
@pedrostevens Жыл бұрын
Hard agree, sounds awesome - I think Zakk Wylde used a similar setup at one point?
@marekw7562 Жыл бұрын
I wish I have a marshall to boost... Lucky you
@guitargrandpa282 Жыл бұрын
Great video, but I think the Boss Bluesdriver should have been included. Might be my favorite OD at the moment.
@guitargrandpa282 Жыл бұрын
@Mac MFer Don't things like that always change? What else would keep the pedal companies in business?
@michaeltaylors2456 Жыл бұрын
My current favorite too. Into the front of my Blug guitar amp 1 Mercury vintage Chanel. Level and tone about noonish, drive almost off on 1.5 ? Wakes everything up in the mix while tightening the bass.
@Bixll09 Жыл бұрын
The little Wampler pedal was the one that did it for me. Then the SD1. I have a Dumble pedal, it is my favourite, then my Blues Driver.
@IamMusicNerd Жыл бұрын
The Tumnus Deluxe is my favorite OD by a mile, but if you prefer the Blues Breaker or King of Tone sounds, the Pantheon Deluxe is my favorite for sure. The mini Tumnus is great, but the Tumnus Deluxe is invaluable. It can be dialed in as a clean boost, a treble boost, a mid boost, low gain or higher gain toggle, maintains clarity, and has great dynamics with pick attack level. It’s just so flexible.
@cchavez248 Жыл бұрын
About the only thing wrong with the Tumnus was when it tried to betray Lucy to the Ice Queen! 😊.... Uhhhh, I'll see my way out! 😳
@Pulse2AM Жыл бұрын
I really liked that sound too, more rock less bluesy.
@OccamsEraserhead Жыл бұрын
The Tumnus is the best drive pedal I've ever had. And I've had a lot - even stupidly valve-driven units. The Tumnus pisses on them all IMHO.
@starshineraiser6729 Жыл бұрын
I’m telling you this, I just bought the SD-1w and BD-2w and I’ll take them over any of my boutique overdrives. They have the perfect saturation. I play Indie, jangly 60’s Psych… there is one other, the Mesa Flux Drive. It’s the greatest Klon ever created, plus much more.
@sergiopedro4668 Жыл бұрын
The Black Box rocks my ears every time. The Rat is timeless. I know them all and I still loved it. Great job, gentlemen.
@dylanris6209 Жыл бұрын
I've owned versions of all of these. My personal opinion is: - Boss SD-1: Iconic, but not their best dirt pedal. I prefer the Blues Driver on the cleaner end and the Turbo Distortion on the dirtier end. - Tube Screamer: Used to be my main overdrive, but I agree with Pete that it's nasal-y. I also agree with him that it's fantastic as a boost on an already distorted signal. - RAT: It's not for me. Way too fizzy. I love a lot of '80s and '90s indie bands that use RATs, but it's the wrong sound for most genres. - Blues Breaker: An amazingly versatile pedal. I own a JHS Morning Glory and a Wampler Pantheon. The Morning Glory has the best pure tone to me, but the Pantheon can do more (including get shockingly thick/heavy). - Klon: I love this pedal, but you have to know how to use it. Like Josh Scott says, you need to turn up the gain to about 1 o'clock to get Bill Finnegan's intended sound. You also need to turn up your amp. It does not sound good at bedroom levels; it sounds heavenly at stage levels. - ODR-1: I own and love this pedal, but I have the one with the bass cut switch, and that is crucial when playing live. An amazing sound I've found is sending an ODR-1 (bass cut on) into a Klone. - OCD: I owned one of these for years, and it was wrong for every band I played in except for one (the heaviest one). Of all the pedals on here, it's the best option for getting super heavy with just one pedal (no stacking). But in the real world, you probably want to get your heaviest sounds by stacking two lighter gain pedals that you can also use a la carte. Having cycled through all of these, I now use a JHS Morning Glory (Blues Breaker circuit) into an ODR-1 with bass cut into a J. Rockett Archer (Klone). My Tube Screamer is in the closet in case I need it. Sold the others.
@quoimagueule628 Жыл бұрын
after having tried more than fifty pedals I play on the vemuram nothing better. morning glory i still have it she is nice. the ts808 I really like it is on my pedalboard with the jan ray.
@lostfound4330 Жыл бұрын
Wow, great analysis. Have you tried any of the Catalinbread stuff. Would love you thoughts on the RAH and the DLS. I am thinking of getting one of them. Thanks
@dylanris6209 Жыл бұрын
@@lostfound4330 Thank you! I don't own either of those pedals, but I played through a friend's Dirty Little Secret and really liked it. I think it would come down to whether you like Marshall sounds in general (DLS) or Jimmy Page Marshall tones specifically (RAH). For me personally, I'd go with the former. But I also think the most versatile setup is one where you have two or three overdrives that stack well together. That gives you an array of options. I think a Blues Breaker style pedal (whether that's a Morning Glory, Blackbox, Pantheon, etc.) makes sense on any board, and then you can pair that with something that's a bit higher gain, including something like a DLS. I also think that when you're at stage volume and the amp is pretty loud, a little overdrive goes a long way. Something that seemed like "light" gain at bedroom levels turns out to be a lot more gnarly when the amp is cranked.
@kevinvandenberg5548 Жыл бұрын
SD1 is my favourite OD pedal! It sounds so much more organic than anything green...
@jkf9167 Жыл бұрын
It's good for organic, but the RAT is best for inorganic!
@kevinvandenberg5548 Жыл бұрын
@@jkf9167 that's why I have both on my board ;)
@gnoogie Жыл бұрын
its literally a yellow tube screamer same circuitry and everything lol. the sd 1 has asymmetrical clipping and im p sure thats the only difference
@the1stgreenblob Жыл бұрын
Very glad Lee mentioned (at 18:08) the instantly more pleasing pedals typically don't work so well in a band situation (with fuller tones). The big lovely blooming low end is glorious for blues and sparse stuff, but once the band kicks, it just hurts everything without change. Bass gtr, toms, kick drum, keys etc etc take up all the low end space. Great video. Tough to compare ODs objectively but this was fantasic... (oh, the Rat is a great OD btw... just keep gain way way down. It didnt get a fair shake imo).
@kellybotha696 Жыл бұрын
Can I just say I am obsessed with this series and so super obsessed with you guys. I keep sharing your channel to everyone hoping everyone will understand my obsession. Keep on doing what you guys do. Love this man.
@picksalot1 Жыл бұрын
All the pedals sounded good. This was a very useful comparison. I particularly liked the tone shaping capabilities of the ODR-1. Thanks
@Docdaman4 Жыл бұрын
Love the ODR-1! I used to work at Guitar Center and whenever someone came in looking for an overdrive, it was usually the first pedal I recommended. Most of the time, they ended up buying it.
@michael_caz_nyc Жыл бұрын
If I see Pete - I automatically Click (and subscribed). He is so humble, entertaining, down to earth and such a great player. The Rat sounded like "Bees in a Tuna-fish can" = all Fizzy and zero note definition. I preferred The OCD and the Black Box. oNe LoVe from NYC
@doctorbooyahwho Жыл бұрын
i love the rat so much! the ODR-1 as well. The Rat is such a fun and versatile pedal; from boost, to low gain, to cranked marshall, to doom. love it.
@antonudd849 Жыл бұрын
The rat is great. I don't get why they try to compare the pedals and only play the rat on a high gain settings. I mean everyone knows it has more gain but the low gain settings is amazing as a low/medium gain od!
@notplaying2379 Жыл бұрын
@@antonudd849 totally agree, even though the SD-1 is my favourite, the RAT would be my pedal of choice if I could only have one dirt pedal.
@misterknightowlandco Жыл бұрын
The rat is one of my favs too and I’m anything but a high gain player. The low gain and boost tones that a rat can produce are just as great as it sounds when you crank it.
@fc7896 Жыл бұрын
SD-1, so versatile... I run it into either my Matchless Lightning 15, or Princeton Reverb amps I built, and it sounds just really solid. Stacks well with a custom ODR clone with the bass cut, too.
@recordingbude8653 Жыл бұрын
That was a GREAT video, guys. I could tell you really wanted to do this and enjoyed filming. If I had to pick my favourite out of these, I would probably go with Pete and pick the BlackBox. Sounded awesome with the Strat.
@18thandMission Жыл бұрын
The end with the black box and OCD together was brilliant! best of the bunch.
@dplessel Жыл бұрын
I sent this video to a buddy of mine who was asking me what overdrive pedal he should buy. Thank you guys again. Right in the nick of time!
@KoaCharvel Жыл бұрын
LOL I saw you thinking about making this video when you were changing up your board. Glad you decided to make this!
@derekbrown6832 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I have the Boss OD-1, and the Nobels ODR-1 mini, as well as an EHX Hotwax dual OD, they cover a lot of ground for me.
@MrMikewright1980 Жыл бұрын
I use a Tumnus as an always-on pedal in front of the EQ Palisades. Sounds amazing with my Mesa Tremoverb and Sunn Model T. Great for heavy rock/metal!
@John_Doe657 Ай бұрын
The MXR Badass Modified OD is a great overdrive pedal. Warm and with plenty of EQ options. It also has enough gain for a classic rock tone through a clean channel. My favorite OD.
@SomeKindOfMadman Жыл бұрын
For me, I stack, the LovePedal Tchula into the Nobles ODR-1, it’s quite a sound. Thanks for the upload, I really enjoy this vids
@marcdavison6937 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Answered a lot questions. Well done boys.
@houndjr3983 Жыл бұрын
This was really interesting information thanks guys!
@MisterRorschach90 Жыл бұрын
Here’s the thing. Some pedals definitely sound almost exactly the same. There is absolute no reason to buy a vintage klon unless you just want a piece of history or bragging rights. There’s no reason to have a vintage tube screamer or vintage muff or something like that unless you like collecting things. All of those sounds can be made with much cheaper copies or even computer effects. It’s crazy now you can buy a guitar, an interface, and all the universal audio pedals and basically have every sound you’d ever need.
@SeanDS89 Жыл бұрын
25:34 this tone here is my favorite in the whole video, its just pure rock n roll, I love it 🤘🎸
@barrywright749 Жыл бұрын
I adore the Anderton's videos and they led me onto Josh from JHS' videos a while ago. The man is an encyclopedia!!! He did a Beringer shoot out. I was so impressed with his breakdown and his pure honesty. Having resources like Anderton's and JHS is invaluable to the community. It gives people more faith in their purchases from the two companies. Keep up the awesome work
@youngandrew66 Жыл бұрын
The blackbox sounds awesome
@andrewpappas9311 Жыл бұрын
I have a Boss OD-1X that was my first pedal alongside a DS-1 and it's still my go-to drive pedal, definitely a classic and sounds great when I'm jamming by myself or with a band so while I still love pedals like the Tube Screamer, Wampler, Rat and OCD I still gotta go with the Boss
@nicknickson3650 Жыл бұрын
These videos are so comfy. Please keep doing them, you guys are great
@matthewtucker1699 Жыл бұрын
I love the OCD. I use it with 18v power and it's the most dynamic pedal drive I've ever used. I'm usually a "crank the amp" guy but the OCD responds very well to pick attack and your volume knob, sometimes I can keep it on all show and just roll of the volume for clean tones. I wouldn't get rid of it even if they started going for original klon money.
@Guvnor513 Жыл бұрын
I am a huge fan of the OCD, too, for the exact reasons you state: back off the volume for clean and rhythm, unwind for lead. A great, classic pedal that deserves its reputation.
@desertracintom1644 Жыл бұрын
I did a similar comparison with my own rig last month. I was surprised how close I was able to get some of my dissimilar drive pedals to sound close to (or essentially the same) as my Klone!
@stratfredo27 Жыл бұрын
I had a Marshall 50 watt JMP with a 4 x 12 that I used an original RAT through and it was glorious with a Boss Flanger, loved it. I've found the newer RAT just doesn't have the same feel to it or maybe I'm just older who knows but back then WOW!
@JoeKyser Жыл бұрын
oddly enough I just ordered a couple different ones myself. I was trying to figure this out. I haven't watched yet but stoked to do so
@charlesb7831 Жыл бұрын
2 things I noticed, you mentioned about the tube screamer needing a blend feature, however if you remember the Ibanez Nu-tube screamer has that function. I've never been a fan of the TS9, then I bought the Nu-tube version and it's way better to me, I run mine in the 18v power for more headroom and the blend know at about 1 or 2 o'clock. The other thing was the RAT , I believe it definitely falls in the the fuzz category. It's a light fuzz , but not an overdrive to me. Fantastic video, Cheers!
@ThFatty Жыл бұрын
One of your best and most useful videos! Great playing and comparing and exploring the variety of tones these pedals can produce. All without being too clinical. Proving both how unique each pedal can be and how various pedals can be used in practically identical circumstances. Excellent for beginners in overdrive and anyone who has not had the chance to play all of these types. Also, the OCD is incredibly quiet. You can get huge Rat levels of thick high gain but with virtually none of the hiss a Rat has at 98.9% same tone. Something else to consider, pedal noise. Two pedals set to low gain stacked can be quieter than one pedal cranked. I like a Timmy and an OCD for overdrives. Thanks!
@alex1376 Жыл бұрын
agree... very useful. A similar one on classic fuzz pedals would be great too
@CraigDeubler Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video guys, really useful
@cmel714 Жыл бұрын
What a great video comparing all of these OD's.
@RedUnited30 Жыл бұрын
I run a Morning Glory, Tumnus, Protien and D&M dual drive. Have a Plumes and Superbolt on standby to switch out. Morning glory or tumnus are always on. Depends on what I’m playing. I have them set to give a tiny bit of color to a clean sound. I love the protein green stacked with either. Protein blue stacked with a superbolt sounds good too.
@flagace4889 Жыл бұрын
Rat and SD 1... The preferred choice here it seems... I cannot disagree. I use both...
@elnyoutube123 Жыл бұрын
I think the video was helpful. I was looking away from the video the entire time and every time I turned my head up to hear which pedal sounded so sweet it was either the Rat, the OCD or the Blackbox.
@davorock2974 Жыл бұрын
C for Captain and C for Conservative. Just can't believe you did not hit all seven pedals on. Yeah you blew it bro. You could have created a real original sound. Great video, the captain needs to learn to hit more than two pedals at a time. I can see it now, The new pedal from boss call The Seven Stack. Seven classic stacked overdrives all in one pedal, As seen on the Adertons Video. PS. I think all these pedals sound better when you use your foot to switch, and not your index finger. I mean come on guys, there all foot pedals. Love it, but put them all on at the same time and ROCK.
@okayguitarplayer Жыл бұрын
I use the TS(JHS bonsai 808) in front of a Tumnus on one board and an 808 in front of a Klon KTR on another... Sweetest combination I've ever played and I can't see myself ever giving it up. Cheers fellas!
@NeilJ894 Жыл бұрын
In pre-internet times I remember discovering how a tube screamer comes alive through a slightly over driven amp rather than using a clean channel. Seems simple now, but no one really told you these things. A call off the search moment for me, didn't really need much else.
@pCeLobster Жыл бұрын
Yep. You pretty much had to meet someone in real life who would tell you this stuff. And even then, everything was an old wives tale back then. I think for a lot of us our "tone" was dictated by what we could find, rather than what we wanted. Your buddy's dad is selling his amp for $200, so that's your amp now. What's the tone like? Uhhhh it's loud! Need more distortion? The store has both kinds: DS-1 and Big Muff lol.
@janattaaya Жыл бұрын
I remember plugging in my TS9 in my LAB amp with, purely by accident, volume maxed out and gain very low and then getting the revelation: "wow SRV tone!"
@TheLK157 Жыл бұрын
Exactly dude!!!
@dogslobbergardens6606 Жыл бұрын
Yep. For YEARS I watched people struggle with Tube Screamers through clean channels and they always sounded, frankly, awful. Because of that I never bothered getting one. It's just not right for that. When I finally realized a better way to use it, suddenly it all made sense.
@davroshalfbeard8368 Жыл бұрын
Great idea for fender ultras. Gone down the path of dual overdrives got to say pretty happy with wampler gearbox and d&m drive well worth the money both highly versatile pedals
@rachellebertol2947 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for this wonderful comparison. GOD BLESS!!!
@klonklone7787 Жыл бұрын
My JHS Pulp N Peel v3 Compressor has a RAT built into it & can switch on or off. It’s amazing.
@christoguichard4311 Жыл бұрын
I bought a Tube Screamer brand-new in 1979. Used it for every gig and recording session for years. Funny thing is...at the time, no-one had heard of it, and it was considered "just a cheap Japanese pedal". But I loved it. Wish I still had it. Probably worth a few bob now too? 😊
@youngandrew66 Жыл бұрын
In my teen metal band of that time me and the other guitarist both had matching jmp 100 watt master volume half stacks and tubescreamers! No way could I afford that sort of gear now!!
@Craig_Fussell Жыл бұрын
I recently picked up a Rat and was really surprised at how really versatile it is.👍🏻
@BlueBarrier782 Жыл бұрын
Overdrive, distortion, and fuzz all in one. Its a fantastic circuit.
@Craig_Fussell Жыл бұрын
It really is!! Wish I had gotten it long ago.
@johnanderson60 Жыл бұрын
@@Craig_Fussell I bought one in 1988 and it still is a go to for me
@rotemshoshani424 Жыл бұрын
Really fantastic pedal
@mattrockjm Жыл бұрын
Great show guys … Tumnus into the OCD …👍 Black box fur blues thx Dig it man….
@barrysorensen6999 Жыл бұрын
Great video - one of your best. After hearing one pedal, I thought, Oh my God, thats my favourite, but then, then next, one, and the next one... all sounded AMAZING (especially with Pete's playing. BUT - you are missing the Blues Driver from that likneup of classic Overdrives. Even though you have a BOSS there, you needed the other one too. Othwise, fantistic video.
@jonathanhandsmusic Жыл бұрын
I’ve concluded over decades of playing that overdrive pedals all do the same thing. As a result, ten years ago I bought a Joyo vintage OD, for $39, and never looked back. They all are just variations of the Ibanez. Sure the Klon is great, but it’s still not going elevate anyone to become a great guitarist. That’s just my opinion of course. In the mix, the overdrive signal just blends in with the vibe of the song. I hardly ever use it anymore. But I still like your video. The pedal syndrome to me is a rabbit hole with no end in sight.
@danieljdtaylor Жыл бұрын
I wish I could come to this conclusion, would save me a lot of money 🤣 Honestly I use a different drive pedal almost every band practice and each time I feel inspired to play completely differently due to how different I think they sound depending on the pedal I’ve chosen. Of course to an audience member this difference probably isn’t noticed so there is a question of how much does it REALLY matter🤷♂️
@Rapunzel879 Жыл бұрын
@@danieljdtaylor it doesn't matter. It's all about the tone and your chops.
@User-gfys-0icu81 Жыл бұрын
The Proco rat sure has a “smashing pumpkins “ vibe going on here with that strat combo!
@-Pol- Жыл бұрын
I've always been a low gain/edge of breakup kind of guy and managed without a distortion for years. I opted for a Turborat clone to fill the gap instead of the classic DS-1 and I'm so glad I did. At low gain it's one of my favourite ODs; it'd be my sole choice for noise on a minimalist board.
@danmillward7358 Жыл бұрын
I love the bluesbreaker pedal....it probably had a lot to do with the fact pete was using a strat too but when he was using the clean amp it was instant hendrix and when he was using the driven amp it was instant RATM
@s.ri.1020 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review! Thx
@flucazade Жыл бұрын
The Rat is such a classic pedal, if I could have one it would be that
@sim0n17 Жыл бұрын
a used SD-1 is about $40 over here... seems to cover it on a budget. The Rat is unstoppable, so a Rat and a SD-1 is the best bang for the buck IMO for a pair. Honorable mention to the Tumnus since it sounds great, just it is more expensive than the Rat & SD-1 combined.
@noiselabproject9659 Жыл бұрын
Interesting comparision & thanks for aknowledging the use of a tube screamer as a pre gain booster by us Metal Dudes ......... on a low gain setting traditionally it`s defo great in helping to get that Megadeth/Exodus clanky chugger tone when used that way
@sixstringguitarist1937 Жыл бұрын
Recently bought a Ltd Edition Nobels ODR1 2021 (with Bass Cut switch) for 80 quid. Sounds killer 🔥 stayed on my board since it arrived and she's not going anywhere. Have my eye on a Hudson Broadcast dual now. 👌
@mralgebro Жыл бұрын
OCD is my favorite but I never use the HP mode. Just love it for a boost
@TheGhostGuitars Жыл бұрын
I like and keep on my board an Ibanez TS7 Tubescreamer, a Boss BD-2 Blues Driver, and the JHS Pack Rat. I'm still feeling my way thru the fuzz pack and haven't yet decided which one to put on my board.
@roberto_alves Жыл бұрын
Those are exactly what I have in my pedal board but the Nobles. I just change the SD1 for the SD-2 with a foot switch on it to use both channels from the pedal. This one is amazing!!! Yes, I use 6 ODs. But I still have a Fuzz on it. Before these pedals I have a tuner, the classic Cry Baby Wah and a compressor from Boss. After those drives there's a booster, phaser, chorus, flanger, delay and a reverb in the end. I love to mix all those drives. They all sound cool with single or humbucker pickups. I just didn't say the RAT and the booster are handmade clones with some mods. How I wish I could be there with you guys. Thanks for the video! Regards from Rio
@alanhunter4564 Жыл бұрын
Buy them all. Classic 🤘
@dowaliby1 Жыл бұрын
Yes, they are very different. The Tube Screamer cannot do what the Rat and the OCD do, and those pedals certainly cannot do what Tube Screamer can. I always enjoy your videos!
@billyhughes9776 Жыл бұрын
The first three classics will always be classics (Rat is my fav) but, the newer pedals in this demo (IMO) just sound better. Really like the Black Box -- the Wampler Klon clone sounds great too, especially for the price. Stacking them at the end was very cool too. That Strat looks and sounds awesome.
@somanythings9074 Жыл бұрын
Great video guys! Best for a long time 👊🤟 Fuzz next?!? 😁
@christopherhansford6429 Жыл бұрын
When Pete flicks on the neck pickup at 24:17, I got on my own Guitar Face! That was my favourite tone of the video.
@tubularbill Жыл бұрын
The Nobels is the most unique of these 7. But overall they all sound really really close.
@TheLogancoats Жыл бұрын
ive had an ocd on my board since my first board in 2006
@jameslewis2635 Жыл бұрын
It never ceases to amaze me how many people remember and make clones of the Marshall Bluesbreaker but you never hear about clones of the Guv'nor.
@notplaying2379 Жыл бұрын
There are Guv'nor clones, JHS angry Charlie, Danelectro Daddy-O are two I can think of
@OccamsEraserhead Жыл бұрын
That's because the Guv'nor was shite.
@BlueBarrier782 Жыл бұрын
No one even makes a clone of the Guv'nor. They are impossible to find.
@BlueBarrier782 Жыл бұрын
Angry Charlie is a bit modified and the Daddy O is out of production unfortunately.
@andyrharris Жыл бұрын
@@OccamsEraserhead as a naive teenager I bought a guvnor plus. I agree, a shite sound! Kind of OK for lead, but sooooooo many better options.
@musikbutikdk Жыл бұрын
Nobels odr-1 with the bass reduction, or maybe even 2, will be a great rock setup, maybe Into something like a fuzz as well. I had the odr-1 into a Carl Martin Plexitone ,, great sound
@andyanderson7503 Жыл бұрын
I bought a used sd1 for my first drive pedal and it actually has the kealy mod that supposedly makes it sound like an 808, I've always wanted to find out the difference and this helped! Thank you!
@monstercrx Жыл бұрын
The difference between TS 808 and SD-1 is the symmetrical vs non-symmetrical clipping diodes so maybe that. Brian Wampler did an interesting video about converting at SD1 to a TS808 that explains it in detail kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ob2EpbuctrmRZWQ.html&ab_channel=WamplerPedals
@andyanderson7503 Жыл бұрын
@@monstercrx thank you, I checked out a couple of videos that said the same thing. The pedal sounds good it's just actually hearing the difference and putting it all together.
@bulenterdem1977 10 ай бұрын
4:51 Josh is great and his JHS Pedals' KZfaq channel is very informative. But also Brian and his Wampler Pedals' channel. Josh and Brian are also very honest and civilized.
@youngandrew66 Жыл бұрын
Pete is bang on with blackbox - in a different league I think
@8CountAudio Жыл бұрын
Even if you happen to dislike a certain classic pedal, there’s probably a song that you love that used that pedal. Or a situation where you don’t like the sound on its own but it’s great in a mix (I’m looking at you, Tube Screamer)
@autistichead8137 Жыл бұрын
But remember these didn’t come out until the late 70s , so most classic songs were just an actually overdriven amp.
@danceswithbadgers Жыл бұрын
Yeah the Tube Screamer. Actually awful, went for a Boss Turbo overdrive instead. Lovely.
@Les537 Жыл бұрын
I like to look for the best with each type. You got your mosfets, diode clipping, op-amp, germanium and more. It's a candy store!
@pieve5516 Жыл бұрын
Tumnus, backed off a bit, into the Black Box.😃 great video.
@BrentAdams Жыл бұрын
Ah.... But I do run both the Boss SD-1 & the Tube Screamer (mine is the TS-9). I set them a little different...and they work so well with the SD-1 on and hitting the front end of the Tube Screamer. That is my boost! That said..... I could dial in a great tone on any of them....just you guys have. The Wonderful World of Overdrive!
@TheOlesarge Жыл бұрын
I play a clean amp. I have the SD-1 gain almost off with the level all the way up running into the Nobels ODR1. The gain on that pedal is set to about 7, level and spectrum are about 6 to 7, as well. If I just want the clean sound, I kick off the ODR1 and play with just the SD1. It really works for me. I also have on my board a Friedman OB which has plenty of gain, becomes a heavy distortion. Thanks for the video, as I think I may have to check out the Black Box and another go at the OCD.
@steffenbrix Жыл бұрын
Great video as always - but I wish I could hear this same video with a delicious clean tone something like a Super Reverb :) The one used here sound very harsh and pokey as a clean platform. But thanks anyway!! :)
@DavidCaris Жыл бұрын
I own many boutique drive pedals but the Joyo King of Kings was just purchased as a curiosity. Guess what, sounds amazing and takes other boost pedals superbly. I like just as much as my Wampler Brent Mason and OCD V1. Just saying, you might want to review some Joyo pedals.
@albertomunoz4867 Жыл бұрын
I love the OCD it's very versatile . I have a V1.4 which has a little less gain then the V2 they are using. On my board I use an Archer for boost and OCD for my heavy gain.
@bryanwalters9574 Жыл бұрын
I play Vox amps which already have a hi mid hump, so I tend not to like pedals that have mid humps as well (screamer, klons, SD-1) my favorite sound into a Vox is a rat (more scooped sound) into a transparent blues breaker type pedal. Such a fun and versatile combo
@DavidWayneBroyles 6 ай бұрын
I used to run the SD-1 into the ODR-1 all the time. THAT is a great combo. Of course my SD-1 is a Keeley modified, but still.
@mynameisfatmike6742 Жыл бұрын
Lotta just absolute classic pedals here that are all fantastic, but my word the RAT is just a phenomenal pedal. I love mine to death. Another one that's quickly becoming a favorite for me the the Soul Food. Nice transparent OD pedal with a great sound
@RJW14 Жыл бұрын
I just got a rat last month and man, it is a riot of a pedal. Anything from Pink Floyd to that golden era 80's Ozzy/Dio/Sabbath and much much more. Can also be used to make your marshall tone a bit fuzzier.
@Scoots1994 Жыл бұрын
Check out the Deucetone RAT, it's two RATs in one enclosure from ProCo. Graham Coxon of Blur used stacked RATs using it. It can sound like your RAT but it do much more.
@void_snw Жыл бұрын
Contrary to popular opinion, I always think that TS style drives are either super boxy and honky, or sound like very badly done soft clipping (exactly like in the part where they go TS gain into amp clean - like a box of bees with a high cut or those rainmaker tubes you built as a kid). But that's mainly for recorded sound. In the room, a lot of things are often very different. That style of OD then becomes nicer, but still with those points I mentioned, just less.
@Ren-X Жыл бұрын
When you hear Pete hit a wrong note, you first think 'Argh, so he is human after all' and then 'Perhaps that's what he wants us to think'. Great and very practical video guys, I could never justify owning all of these to try them like this. Black Box and Rat for me, although I'd still like to try a Klon circuit
@robcobi Жыл бұрын
I went down the Klone route, my favorite is the Sugar Drive, it's got a bit more drive. If you are patient the Ceritone HorseBreaker is a fantastic pedal (more expensive though), it nails the Klon and the Marshal Bluesbreaker pedals perfectly BB first then Klon in sequence (so much I forgot you have to turn the drive on the BB side almost all the way up to get it to drive a clean amp). I've got a KTR and an original Marshall Bluesbreaker pedal to compare against as a point of reference. If my house burned down I'd just get the Sugar Drive and Nux MorningStar (JHS Morning Glory knockoff which is a Marshall BB knockoff), if money were an issue. The Belle by Wampler is fantastic too, it's 90% of the way to my Nordland (more option laden ODR pedal) and sounds like a dream. I typically play through an Ibanez TSA15 (6v6) w/ 1x12 Celestion Gold, so that helps too 😇
@shelbysmoakbleeder9988 Жыл бұрын
To add to your comments about the Tumnus: at home when playing thru it i really wasnt “getting” it and was, admittedely, disappointed. My friend was going to buy it from me after some shows we were doing. Had rented fender deluxe backline and just couldnt get it to cut thru the band. On a lark, took out the tumnus was going to sell and BAM! Holy cow did it work. Great sound, great tone. Refused to sell and now it’s my live secret weapon. But at home it just isnt that “fun”.
@rockyfolksy8639 Жыл бұрын
awesome shootout. how about a nobels ODR style of pedal comparison from cheap to expensive?
@SidBonkers51 Жыл бұрын
Ive often said that all anyone needs is any decent overdrive and an 6 to 10 band EQ pedal to tune it the frequencies you want and you can get pretty much any tone you want.
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