Classic Vibe 50s Telecaster vs Affinity Telecaster | Worth the money?

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Mark Zabel

Mark Zabel

Күн бұрын

Classic Vibe 50s Telecaster vs Affinity Telecaster | Worth the money?
Squier makes several instruments in its Telecaster line. Two of the best options are the Affinity Telecaster and the Classic Vibe 50s Telecaster. Both great guitars, both a bargain. But is the Classic Vibe 50s Telecaster worth the money over the Affinity Telecaster? Let’s check it out!
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Affinity Telecaster: imp.i114863.net/Rz4og
Fender Vintera '50s Telecaster Pickups: imp.i114863.net/qnDqjN
Blackstar HT5R MKII: imp.i114863.net/74yZO
Blackstar HT5R MKII (Amazon): amzn.to/3sD6CXN
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0:00 Introduction
1:05 Affinity Specs
4:09 Classic Vibe Specs
8:18 Sounds
8:45 Clean Sounds
11:14 Dirty Sounds
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@Bm23CC
@Bm23CC 3 жыл бұрын
To be perfectly honest there isn't such thing as a bad guitar anymore. They are all superior to the guitars I learned on.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
You and I know. Dang! Remember the action on your first guitar once you got past the 4th fret??
@misterknightowlandco
@misterknightowlandco 3 жыл бұрын
I got a 94 squire bullet for Christmas of 94. I still have it and it plays great. Yeah it’s a little different than a standard strat. The body shape isn’t 100% accurate but it still looks good. I think the biggest improvements they’ve made has been in being set up well from the factory and electronics have gotten better.
@jeffreybabino8161
@jeffreybabino8161 2 жыл бұрын
I rember my first guitar was a Lafayette
@Mountainrock70
@Mountainrock70 2 жыл бұрын
My first electric in 84’ was a Flying V with a nameless headstock bought new at a music store. Years later I found out it was made by Ibanez. It was as good as any lower priced guitar today.
@Juno58
@Juno58 2 жыл бұрын
My first electric guitar in the late seventies was a czech made Jolana Star VII, a horrible guitar. Goes out of tune after playing two chords. You could throw an elephant between strings and fretboard. 😁 A real nightmare!
@zakimohamedzaki527
@zakimohamedzaki527 3 жыл бұрын
Classic vibe Clean 8:50 neck 9:24 middle 9:46 bridge Affinty Clean 10:04 neck 10:35 middle 10:57 bridge Classic vibe Dirty 11:15 neck 11:41 middle 12:07 bridge Affinty Dirty 12:32 neck 12:58 middle 13:25 bridge
@luhutbinsar9017
@luhutbinsar9017 2 жыл бұрын
More helpful
@jersonambrocio9954
@jersonambrocio9954 Жыл бұрын
Much thanks!
@aldrichvelazco
@aldrichvelazco Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@ryr7760
@ryr7760 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I don't understand why this man make the video comparation too dificult to ear
@arjenharsta1165
@arjenharsta1165 8 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@Madchris8828
@Madchris8828 3 жыл бұрын
More clarity in the 50s, more bass and boomieness to the affinity. Both good instruments just for different tastes. The 50s one seems to have more classic jangle. The affinity seems to be a more modern take on the sound.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense.
@johncollins5552
@johncollins5552 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I hear, CV 50s is more resonant than the CV 60s and CV 70s also btw. Affinity is a bargain but does sound a bit cheap and tinny however that can be a good thing for some!
@0000song0000
@0000song0000 2 жыл бұрын
@@johncollins5552 whenever looking for a lighter guitar... the affinity line (or their bodies at least) are a nice option. 🌝
@MrJabinho
@MrJabinho 4 күн бұрын
Yes CV is much better for 50s sound.
@UndercoverCreator
@UndercoverCreator 3 жыл бұрын
Finally! A good comparison with not just heavy rock nonsense. This has helped a lot, specially the clean funk/soul bits. Thank you. I was blindly going for the affinity, but I want the Classic Vibe now. There's a huge difference to my ears, the CV sounds like the real deal.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. I'm glad the comparison helped you. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@cmmnsenserules4339
@cmmnsenserules4339 Жыл бұрын
MY THOUGHT EXACTLY!!! I despise distortion during a comparison. Clean and smooooooooth.
@Stu-Vino
@Stu-Vino 3 жыл бұрын
My Classic Vibe arrived yesterday and I love it! This was a very useful comparison video, so thank you.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@dare2win215
@dare2win215 2 жыл бұрын
Affinity is darker l/muddier and the CV is more cutting, open, sparkling, and precise. All this time I thought it was the Strat sound I was after, only to learn the Tele was the one that stole my ears' heart. ,😍
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's awesome! Thanks for stopping by!
@garmond401
@garmond401 3 жыл бұрын
There's something magical about the classic vibe sound. Planning to own my 1st telecaster. Really nice playing Mark. Subbed.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I agree, the CB is quite nice, especially clean.
@adrianmarrufov
@adrianmarrufov 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same CV from the video, the white one, the CV is an absolutely amazing guitar for its price, the sound, the smoothness of the neck, it is very comfortable and has a lot of sonority, i love it!!
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@tyecook9630
@tyecook9630 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a '21 affinity that has the string through, belly cut, full width nut and split shaft tuners. I've upgraded the pickups to tex mex and have the s1 switching in it. It's seriously all the tele I'll ever need.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
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@timcastle165
@timcastle165 3 жыл бұрын
Love to see a comparison of these two plus the Bullet! Great video!!
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim!
@fatbelly3385
@fatbelly3385 Ай бұрын
Really great video. Thanks for the clean comparison!
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel Ай бұрын
Thanks ... and you're welcome!
@eziooo2011
@eziooo2011 3 жыл бұрын
THIS IS THE BEST COMPARISON VIDEO I´VE SEEN. THANKS VERY MUCH. NOW I KNOW WHICH ONE. CV!
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
@the_failed_states
@the_failed_states 3 жыл бұрын
I remember being mortified that my les paul that my poor suffering parents bought me was a Hondo that I covered the brand with gaff tape. It was an awesome guitar, and these days probably would be sought after. Guitar snobbery, meh. a good guitar is a good guitar regardless of brand. I've never played a bad Squire.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent story! I've played plenty of bad Squiers though - plenty. Plenty of bad Fenders too. Honestly, I think Squier and many bargain brands are more consistently good today than they were in the past. Most cheap guitars are playable nowadays. I'm not at all sure the brand names like Fender and Gibson are higher quality than they used to be. The gap seems smaller.
@polycube868
@polycube868 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarkZabel I have a 2002 Squier Affinity Strat that's nearly perfect except for one major flaw, the neck is way too thin and is hard to play chords on.
@TheRash12
@TheRash12 3 жыл бұрын
Really insightful video, thank you!
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@InsideTheStadium
@InsideTheStadium Жыл бұрын
Your a Legend mark, I'm new to guitars and just git my first acoustic and now I'm also loving the electric and this video helped me out more than you know . thanks mark, Your the Rockstar in my book 👑
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks!!
@strivingx67
@strivingx67 3 жыл бұрын
Really nice comparison. Thanks man!
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bruce!
@mikemph7779
@mikemph7779 4 ай бұрын
Great review! Thank you, very informative !!
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@greg77hot
@greg77hot 2 жыл бұрын
I have the exact affinity ...I put on new strings, locking tuners, new tusk nut and new string trees ...plays like a dream.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 2 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@c5natie1
@c5natie1 19 күн бұрын
I just bought my kid the affinity tele as his first electric guitar. Great beginner guitar. This video helped a lot. Thank you.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 18 күн бұрын
Glad it helped!
@talorbarihun8575
@talorbarihun8575 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and review. You really helped me with my dilemma.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@greytim73
@greytim73 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for you video! I was looking to get a Squier Telecaster. I wasn't sure which to n to get. Your video was extremely helpful! Thank you!
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@funky_monk_9796
@funky_monk_9796 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark, your review is spot on and one of the best I've seen, really helpful. Squier are so good, something for everyone. The CV is undoubtedly the superior instrument of these two, but the new Affinity models have some pluses. 3-ply pickguard, skunk stripe on neck (for 2021), flat standard jack socket (much better than the wobbly vintage sockets they insist on keeping in the higher spec Teles including Fenders) and I've just realised they have now introduced a body sculpt on the back of the Affinty body (controversial but some will love it, me included - no more bruised ribs). I have a Squier CV 70s custom Tele in sunburst and an Affinity Tele in graffiti yellow with white pickguard. The CV is awesome, Affinity is great too. It all depends what you're looking for, I guess. Im just bedroom jamming, so the Affinity is perfect and can be upgraded. But if I ever do gigs with friends, the CV custom has all the power and it's so responsive, a tone machine. I do fancy the butterscotch Affinity Telecaster though, please help me out of this guitar rabbit-hole!!! Peace.
@funky_monk_9796
@funky_monk_9796 3 жыл бұрын
I forgot to say, the 2021 Affinity model also appears to come with string-through body.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and info Max! The one "improvement" I don't like is the Affinity going to the full-size body. It adds weight to the guitar and IMHO that was a big selling point. I know most people want a full-thickness body. Everything else is a plus!
@ednorko5128
@ednorko5128 Жыл бұрын
The classic vibe comes in Butterscotch Blonde as well
@Terry3Gs
@Terry3Gs 3 жыл бұрын
Great job on this mark !!
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Terry! Much appreciated!
@adansr79
@adansr79 Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks!
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel Жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
@zjah1
@zjah1 2 жыл бұрын
great video ! thanks alot man
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@Stairwaytoheaven06
@Stairwaytoheaven06 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. Both are great. But I think have a preference for the classic vibe and its clear tone. :)
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. I agree that the classic vibe is better all around.
@patgaff2536
@patgaff2536 3 жыл бұрын
Good review. Thank you.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
@KyLesCaster
@KyLesCaster 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Likeable guy, great player. I got a 2008 CV50 Strat myself. Best guitar I've ever played.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! The CV 50s Tele is a great guitar. I've never played the CV 50s Strat, but I would guess it's great as you say.
@franklynch7458
@franklynch7458 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Mark!! I like your playing as well. I have a heavily modified affinity tele I put in hip shot locking tuners, Dimarzio twang king pickup set with Dimarzio solderless control plate so all of the pots and wiring is Dimarzio. The reason that I got the affinity is it was a solid tele platform. I am a drummer that plays guitar to write music (can't write music on drums)!!:) anyway the reason that I did it that way is because my wife and daughter both have very serious health issues that keep my budget very tight. I bought parts a month at a time for the affinity now it's a really quality instrument, in fact I went out to jam with some guys I know from my area and the guitarist/singer had an American standard telecaster he played mine all night cause he said the feel and sound better. I got the affinity a few years back so with a 15% discount it cost me about $162. In total with what I added the guitar coast me about 500 bucks ball park but I'll put it up against ANY tele now. However the CV that you are playing I'm very interested in the antique white cause that has alnico 3 pickups as opposed to my alnico 5 pickups for a difference in tone the CV are great and I am saving for the antique white one!! The reason that I originally went with the affinity was I couldn't afford the CV but I needed a guitar right away to record with and I love Telecasters. Anyway now that I wrote you a novel!!:) I subscribed so I look forward to more great demo's
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Frank! Yes, modding the Affinity is a great idea because the core of the guitar is good. Sure, the tuners stink, but you can modify those easily. I appreciate being on a tight budget too! For the CV, the only thing I would mention is the gloss neck. Lots of people don't like that. You can sand it down or use a Scotch pad, but with a new guitar that's always painful. And you can use the bridge as a top-load also if you like the "slinkier" action (instead of going through the body). I also love the sound out of those Alnico 3's. Really snappy clean sound and classic "dirt" as well. No worries about writing a novel! Any time!!
@thierrygoli4271
@thierrygoli4271 3 жыл бұрын
I've owned a lot of teles. Fender standard us and Mexico. My favorite is a classic 50 séries upgraded with seymour jerry donahue and 4 way switch. Pure magic
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@billjaru6170
@billjaru6170 2 жыл бұрын
Good review sir. Thank you.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 2 жыл бұрын
Very welcome
@tony_dms350
@tony_dms350 3 жыл бұрын
I have an affinity tele I’ve upgraded the pickups from a fender player tele and changed the tuners to button klusons! She’s the most tele sounding tele I’ve ever heard amazing instrument!!! And I love this neck!
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
If you love the neck on a guitar, modifying is totally justified! To me, playability is everything. Sound is secondary and can easily be improved. Great that you love your guitar!!
@jonathanhandsmusic
@jonathanhandsmusic 3 жыл бұрын
The classic vibe telecaster is just a nicer guitar. Period. Nice review and great playing btw.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks!
@guitarace100
@guitarace100 3 жыл бұрын
how do you feel about it many months on? I adored mine but since passing the honeymoon period, the pickups just don't feel up to scratch
@Daniel-xn6os
@Daniel-xn6os 3 жыл бұрын
Great review!
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Daniel!
@paulmilsommusic
@paulmilsommusic Жыл бұрын
Excellent vid. Ty
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@monat_son
@monat_son 11 ай бұрын
Hey Mark i really liked your review. Thanks!
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 11 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@Darrelb07
@Darrelb07 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Mark ..
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@garrytalley8009
@garrytalley8009 3 жыл бұрын
I do think the most obvious is the more punch in the sound of the pickups. They both could use different tuners, but the ones they come with work. If one were buying just to keep it as is the Classic 50's wins. If I were going to upgrade pick ups and tuners the affinity wins. Nice video. We all have our differences in thought. I myself have been tinkering with building a guitar and doing set ups. As is the best deal is different as to buy and upgrade.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your well thought out comment! In watching a video sound will be the most obvious difference. Feeling, fit and finish, quality of switches and knobs - that is more difficult to convey in a video. I don't disagree with your analysis, except that the tuners are not comparable. The CV's tuners are good, while the Squier's are bottom of the line. If you don't like Kluson style tuners, then the point is moot, but they're pretty good tuners. I think if you're modifying the biggest difference is the body. If you want a full-size string-through body, the Squier isn't an option. Unless you mod the body (i.e., replace) it won't be full-size. Personally, I believe that's a huge *positive* in the Affinity's side. It makes for a lighter guitar. But for many people it's a deal-breaker, so I'm mentioning it. The other thing in modifying is that I don't believe anyone should get the CV Tele and change the pickups. They sound exactly like what a vintage Tele should sound like. Even Seymour Duncan Antiquities aren't really better for that vintage sound IMHO. If you're not going for the vintage thing, then absolutely - get a different Tele! (And the Affinity is a great choice IMHO) All-in-all, both are really good choices!
@benmiddleton9984
@benmiddleton9984 Жыл бұрын
They both sound good. But the more expensive Squier sounds much better to my ears. Sounds brighter and sharper.
@rnarizona9686
@rnarizona9686 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, that was a really good demonstration. I've owned a CV Tele for 4-5 years, and it's a great instrument. Mine is the butterscotch blonde, and the finish is much more transparent than either of the guitars you displayed. It's quite a good looking, and good playing instrument. I did not like the glossy neck, gave it a 5 minute light sanding, and it's fine. Now, here is where I will complicate things. I also purchased a G&L ASAT Classic Tele. It is about the same price as the CV Tele, and in my opinion, an even better instrument. Something you may wish to check out.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I had a G&L ASAT and I thought it was pretty decent.
@aitken1965
@aitken1965 3 жыл бұрын
I love those vintage style tuners, so much so that I've replaced the standard tuners on my USA Tele with the vintage style tuners!
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Can't say I have your taste in tuners, but yeah man! Love it. Gotta do what works for you!
@maakatipa4613
@maakatipa4613 3 жыл бұрын
Changed out the scratch plate for a white mother of pearl and added chrome pickup covers etc... oh, and. Hanged the machine heads for fender ones.
@joseantoniovidalmelzi1091
@joseantoniovidalmelzi1091 2 жыл бұрын
God Bless! amazing review! thanks very much :)
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Glad you found it helpful.
@willredelsheimer5919
@willredelsheimer5919 Жыл бұрын
Just stumbling onto this great comparison review. Happen to be a fan of both. In my experience I've found cheap ceramic pick-ups to be amazing tools for creating. Love my Affinity for that and no desire to upgrade it. Love Alnico too, just saying. Beginner guitars these days play plenty well enough to save a buck or two. Really dug your video thanks.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel Жыл бұрын
Thanks! And I totally agree that ceramics can be great too - their own unique sound.
@davidAll5
@davidAll5 3 жыл бұрын
nice comparison, thanx
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@HowardCharlesUK
@HowardCharlesUK 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised at how much clearer sounding the Classic Vibe was
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Its pickups are very articulate.
@damienhillssax
@damienhillssax 5 ай бұрын
Great playing man! The sounds you are using really showcase the instuments accurately. The Classic Vintage Vibe really stands out with punch and clarity! Great review. Regards and happy gigging (because obviously you do I would hope) Cheers😊
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 5 ай бұрын
Rock on!
@kiki9408
@kiki9408 3 жыл бұрын
Oh this helped me a lot! Thanks
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@jeffgerndt2813
@jeffgerndt2813 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Straight ahead🎸
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Dreyno
@Dreyno 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to buy a Baja Tele but bought a Classic Vibe to see how I got on with it first. Loved it so much I never bought the Baja Tele (which I sorta regret because I think that model is discontinued). The classic vibe is a perfect Tele apart from the neck being a bit slim compared to most Teles I’ve played.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
I feel similarly (except for the Baja, which I never really was into ... don't know exactly why). The skinny, glossy neck isn't completely to my taste. Everything else is fabulous though!
@AxemanMessiah
@AxemanMessiah 2 жыл бұрын
Go Affinity for that satin neck feel. When you can get it upgrade to Fender Player and then just keep it forever, modding anything to your liking
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your input! That thinking probably makes sense for a good many people.
@perthmike7
@perthmike7 2 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison Mark 👍🏻
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 🎸
@budgetguitaristcom
@budgetguitaristcom 3 жыл бұрын
Great overview - agree 100%. I think a used Classic Vibe is the way to go... IF you can find one. Most people who own them keep them. Lotta people sand the gloss off the Classic Vibe neck - I wonder why Squier hasn't offered it with a satin back? Affinity is a great line for the money.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, agree on all counts.
@midnightcrow5690
@midnightcrow5690 2 ай бұрын
I agree. I luckily could buy a used cv on eBay that barely got played
@lazvt8469
@lazvt8469 Жыл бұрын
My lefty CV Tele should be here tomorrow by 2pm... Can't wait to compare with my USA/Japanese teles.... I expect good things. Got my player-son the CV Custom Baritone earlier this week....he likes it...great for noodling and inspiration.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel Жыл бұрын
Very cool. Enjoy!
@maakatipa4613
@maakatipa4613 3 жыл бұрын
Bought an Affinity HH , Alder body, maple neck,Indian loral fretboard, all black hatdware, orange/copper body with matching headstock. 9 1/2 " radius. Found all the black too much so changed out the scratch plate for
@wilmaliles5932
@wilmaliles5932 Жыл бұрын
Yes it is worth it as long as its made in Indonesia. Im 72 been playing since i was 13,when i pluged it in i had to turn the volume down,pickups are more powerful and clear as a bell and its lighter i got the cv classic thinline,i dont regret it.
@MuankimarMK47
@MuankimarMK47 2 жыл бұрын
Both of them sounds great
@pepeguitarshop9456
@pepeguitarshop9456 5 ай бұрын
Great video, you are a great Player, love your style.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 5 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@marcotaticchi5343
@marcotaticchi5343 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Just a suggestion: please for the future compare directly Guitar 1 Bridge Pickup with Guitar 2 Bridge Pickup (and so on) so that it is easier to understand immediately the difference without going back and forth in the KZfaq video. Thank you so much.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks and great suggestion!
@mikenorman6697
@mikenorman6697 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your suggestion.
@TexanUSMC8089
@TexanUSMC8089 2 жыл бұрын
My Affinity Tele Deluxe has a string through body. I replaced the nut with a 5042 Tusq, and Ratio tuners. I was impressed with the electronics. It had full size pots and a "switchcraft style" switch. Much better inside than the bullet. I was told that the 2021 Affinity series has been upgraded from the previous years though. I was going to replace the humbuckers with a set of SD Pearly Gates I've had for awhile. So far, the Squier humbuckers sound pretty good, so the upgrade may not happen...for now. In my experience, what Fender calls a synthetic bone nut is actually plastic. Maybe I'm wrong. It doesn't really matter to me because a nut is one of the cheapest things you can change on any guitar. The bottom line is though, both guitars are made by Squier and one of them costs $100-$150 more. They're not charging more for one of them for no reason. Everyone gives the Classic Vibe series great marks. They're budget guitars that you can play professionally...out of the box. Some will need a setup, but so do $1000 guitars. The Affinity series is better than they used to be, and if you do some of your own work, they're a great platform to start from. I went with Affinity this time because all they had was the 70's CV. I don't like the big CBS headstocks.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, right on! I think the Affinity Tele replaced the "Standard Tele" from Squier. I top-load my Teles and prefer the smaller body, so the thicker body is a minus for me. But ... sounds like they "upped" their game with the electronics. Yes, "synthetic bone" is plastic, but so is TUSQ - just another type of plastic - high density. Works great though! Bottom line is that if you like the neck of the guitar and its body feels comfortable to you (and okay, if you like the vibe/looks/whatever) then you can make it a great guitar.
@ZeppelinUK
@ZeppelinUK 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, without a doubt the Classic Vibe 50's Telecaster's the superior instrument of the two as stock, but I have say that the Affinity makes a great mod platform, something I've done to mine!... 🙂
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. But you've got to like the core instrument to do it. (Neck and body ... which I do). New pickups, bone nut, new tuners, new bridge or maybe just brass saddles, maybe a 4-way switch and new electronics. All good. But if you're like me and have your favorite Seymour Duncans or Fralins or whatever. Anyway, can't go wrong IMHO. I have a different Affinity just as a "beater" for travel. And it works for that too! Thanks for watching!
@coreyfelipe5679
@coreyfelipe5679 2 жыл бұрын
what modification have you done?
@ZeppelinUK
@ZeppelinUK 2 жыл бұрын
@@coreyfelipe5679 Changed out the stock pickups for Fender Gen4 Noiseless ones, swapped out the stock neck for a Squier Vintage Modified 22 fret neck and upgraded the control loom, so quite extensive but well worth it as it now feels and plays more like a Fender Player Plus model... 🙂
@cmmnsenserules4339
@cmmnsenserules4339 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for adding so much distortion they all sound the same. Excellent review.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@cmmnsenserules4339
@cmmnsenserules4339 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, I meant --- Thank you for NOT adding so much distortion they sound the same" I hate when people do reviews and there's so much damn distortion. You are cool. I'll subscribe.
@ajb129
@ajb129 Жыл бұрын
I have an affinity telecaster. Functionally, it's great out of the box (I had to replace the nut on mine, because it didn't sit right but whatever), but the pickups suck. I switched them out for fender Tex mex pickups which have alinico 5 magnets and some new pots, and it now sounds like a darn good telecaster. $200 + $100 ish in parts plus 45 minutes of time for a great guitar is well worth it in my book
@robraaiii
@robraaiii 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, this is my exact dilemma. BTW... When you were holding both guitars during the intro, the combined profile gave you a great busty looking figure. Lmao 😂
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks and LOL!
@kristianburton6811
@kristianburton6811 2 жыл бұрын
I've been racking my brain about what electric to buy. I bought a nice acoustic for around 200 pounds during the 1st UK lockdown. Used to play when I was younger (self taught) but that was over 10 years ago. So its almost like starting over. I try and practise like 3 or 4 times a week (life and work permitting). I want to invest in quality but I'm now leaning towards getting an affinity and nice amp. Then saving up for a couple of years to get a proper player series tele down the line, I love the classic vibe look but feel like a player series or mim tele for an extra 2 or 300 hundred is worth it for me. So I'm going to invest in a decent amp and get an affinity for now.
@wyattsdad8561
@wyattsdad8561 3 жыл бұрын
If the classic vibe had the butter scotch color while still having the neck that comes on it, now that would be a cool looking rig.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Both colors are nice. I prefer the Vintage Blonde over Butterscotch, but I know many prefer the Butterscotch. The tint on the neck definitely *does* make a difference in the looks!
@yannlaliberte8407
@yannlaliberte8407 8 ай бұрын
I agree, the CV has more bright sound, which is for me, more Tele. Great video.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 8 ай бұрын
Cool, thanks!
@kevingamache1512
@kevingamache1512 2 жыл бұрын
It is a testament the affinity is usable I have had and have the cv50s Great guitars
@fishpotpete
@fishpotpete 3 жыл бұрын
I'm totally into Squier for several years now. I have/had Classic Vibes, standards, vintage modifides, and Affinities. I love my CV Strat, CV Starcaster, standard HSS Strat... But between the Affinity Tele and the CV Tele - I really liked the Affinity Tele much better. Felt better in my hands, the neck was very comfortable and the pickups very useable. The CV Tele just seemed real clunky and uninspiring to me. I wish I would have kept the Affinity Tele. Plus I only paid $110 new for the Affinity at the time!
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
That's interesting. I understand the "feel" - especially of the neck, which is satin vs gloss for the CV. (Many people don't like glossy necks). The CV Tele's pickups are definitely closer to actual Telecaster pickups, whereas the Affinity's ceramics are okay. But if you like them that's what you should go with. I think for most people they'd buy a CV for exactly that - Classic Vibe. And the pickups in a CV are definitely going to get you close to the classic Telecaster sounds.
@kodiebutter6632
@kodiebutter6632 2 жыл бұрын
Ya know ppl think I'm crazy when i say that. I've owned multiple of both and altho I've had some pretty bad affinitys (made in China moreso than Indonesia) and the CV is pretty consistent, the "good" affinitys I've had I just liked more. I play blue's, but kinda dirtier with alot of gain, and alot of rock and grunge so maybe the ceramic pickups just work for me. But my current everyday player is an affinity with a horrible homemade paint job, that I just can't put down. My last classic vibe I had less than two weeks, they are well worth the money and I love the squier line period, but me personally I would take the affinty
@karlobluesman
@karlobluesman Жыл бұрын
I have the same model affinty as the one he's playing. Its a fantastic guitar for beginner or professional I really like the feel of the neck no issues with fret sprout, makes no difference to me whether its string through or not had both never heard any difference in sound or playability. Of course it needed setting up when I bought it as do expensive guitars. Top loading strings are pain in the arse when changing new strings
@j-pastel-yellow
@j-pastel-yellow 2 жыл бұрын
i tried out both of these at a guitar center today, and i gotta say that i love the affinity. the CV was nice, but the affinity felt perfect to me, like it melted into my hands. i plan to buy one, swap out the bridge pickup for a DiMarzio chopper, put on some graphtech string saver saddles, and refinish it in bright mustard yellow. i can't wait.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@kleerism
@kleerism 9 ай бұрын
How did the modifications work out for you ? What. Was the final cost difference between the two ?
@cmja09
@cmja09 2 жыл бұрын
Well the Classic Vibe is $204 more than the Affinity, at least here in southeast asia. Very much contented with my affinity.
@bishoy95
@bishoy95 3 жыл бұрын
I currently have Yamaha PAC012 and am eager to upgrade to fixed bridge guitar. Was torn between the Squire Classic Vibe Telecaster and the ESP LTD EC256 for a blues tone, cleans and soft rock. I think I will end with the Telecaster 🥰🥰
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Good choice! The CV 60's Vibe is good too!
@LouisCiarlo
@LouisCiarlo Жыл бұрын
Very informative video, I would choose the Classic Vibe 50s Telecaster. Thirty years ago I wouldn't have imagined owning any guitar that didn't have Fender or Gibson on the headstock, today I couldn't care less. Now it's all about the feel, sound, and value. I guess that's what happens when you have a mortgage and you're helping your kid pay back her student loan. 😀
@joelpanettaonline
@joelpanettaonline Жыл бұрын
I have a 2000 Affinity since new. The only thing that has ever been changed out are the strings. During that time I have been through at least a dozen USA & MiM Strats & Teles. I still have that Affinity Tele though. I have gigged with it and it is the one that is always out on the stand next to the amp ready to play.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel Жыл бұрын
They can be great guitars.
@billkyle1056
@billkyle1056 3 жыл бұрын
Good video! I bought 2 Affinity teles about 12-13 years ago, I gutted them and modded them with string thru bridge plate and saddles, Replaced the ceramic pups with Texas Blues Pups (overwound Texas Special type). Fender ping tuners and the guitars are great but still a little jangly. I think I’ll put in a .047 Cap and see if that ground out the jangle (highs). I skipped the CV’s and went straight to MIM Standard (excellent guitar!). Going to get the MIM player Strat and Tele next but my whole point was that you can upgrade/mod the affinities and have a pretty good guitar.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can upgrade them, definitely!
@mikenorman6697
@mikenorman6697 3 жыл бұрын
You went to a lot of trouble and expense to upgrade your Affinity guitars. I wonder how your modded Affinities sound compared to a stock Classic Vibe??!!
@mysteriousplankton
@mysteriousplankton 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I have a ton of guitars but I bought the Affinity just because it was cheap and I had a serious case of GAS. It really plays great and I'm not worried if it gets banged up. No regrets. It's not the string through model.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure. It's a good, basic guitar. Nothing wrong with it. Fun to play, good to tinker with.
@dim19790
@dim19790 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration, next time I think you should put back to back the same positions on each guitar to make clearer the sound differences. Maybe a little more of work on editing the video. Of course in these ones tonal differences were clear as a bell :)
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@ontogeny6474
@ontogeny6474 2 жыл бұрын
Ah - those ceramic pickups are a touch darker than the alnico. You've helped me make up my mind. Thx!
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@sitgesstudio
@sitgesstudio 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Thanks for watching!
@imwastedhere
@imwastedhere 2 жыл бұрын
At first i didn't like the looks of the tele but now I'm starting to admire the tele and it's looks
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 2 жыл бұрын
*The* classic solid body guitar look.
@voiceofexperience
@voiceofexperience 2 жыл бұрын
Like some other things in life, the Telecaster is a guitar that most people only come to really appreciate as they get older.
@Brykk
@Brykk 3 ай бұрын
The cv just sounds better everywhere. The affinity wasnt too bad, but the cv was better. Plus, i have trouble with the narrow nut necks.
@adriyanmusic
@adriyanmusic 3 жыл бұрын
All the way and every day classic vibe sir 🤠🎸you are great guitarist my friend, thank you for the video
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Adriyan!
@smokepeddler
@smokepeddler 3 жыл бұрын
I have a white 2020 affinity. String thru. Full thickness poplar body. Nut width is 1 5/8ths. 9.5 radius. Almost a soft V shape. Neck is really nice. Stock pots, switch and pups are total junk. But expected. Replaced the pups with alnico 5 flat poles , new 300k CTS pots with a 4 way switch and it flat out gets it.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Good core to the guitar.
@jonnypoundland4118
@jonnypoundland4118 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Affinity with Gen 4 Noiseless pickups vs classic vibe standard. Roughly same money.
@ExtraRice.101
@ExtraRice.101 5 ай бұрын
Both are very good guitars. It will be dependent on the sound you want. Frankly, it's the Affinity for me. I like the CV as well but it got a more piercing sound.
@sammyrothrock6981
@sammyrothrock6981 2 жыл бұрын
Affinity is a great value for the price differential I can change out my pickups and I will be content! I like the narrow Affinity neck
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 2 жыл бұрын
There you go. It's all about what works for each player!
@stephenhensley5631
@stephenhensley5631 Жыл бұрын
Nice playing. I think I'll get the Classic.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@9999plato
@9999plato 2 жыл бұрын
Rub some very fine wet/dry sandpaper or steel wool across the back of the neck if you think the CV neck is too sticky.I do this if the neck becomes too sticky after playing a while. I do it to my Reverend necks as their necks tend to polish up after playing for a while too. Satin necks never remain satin.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 2 жыл бұрын
I don't mind the gloss, but I've used the 3m Scotch Brite pads too. Definitely easy to do sandpaper too if the gloss is bothersome.
@petemitchell6788
@petemitchell6788 3 жыл бұрын
Sold my affinity Tele. Too many things I didn’t like. Got a used CV strat for $175. OMG! Now I’m looking at the CV Tele. 😁
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the CV Tele. But it would depend on what you didn't like about the Affinity Tele. For example, if you wanted a trem ... :)
@petemitchell6788
@petemitchell6788 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarkZabel I blocked the trem on my strat. It did work fine and stayed in tune though. The affinity is a $100 guitar sold for $229. The CV is a $500 guitar sold for $400. I got one for $175. I’m about to buy another used CV 50’s strat for $175. I like the maple fretboard. The affinity felt like a very cheap guitar. The CV fees just like a Fender to me. Blindfolded I couldn’t tell the difference. You’d never fool me with a affinity. It a $200 turd.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
@@petemitchell6788 Well, I disagree with you on the Affinity. For $50 to $100 you can drop in new pickups and it'll sound like what you want it to sound like. The neck is sound and the body is light. Everything else is replaced easily if you want to and does little to nothing for the sound and playability. You got a great deal on the CV Strat, but don't kid yourself - the CV Tele is a $250 guitar for $400 at most. All guitars are marked up a huge amount. The more expensive, the more the mark up. The cheapest are usually the least marked up and provide the least margin to the retailer and manufacturer.
@27needles1
@27needles1 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with @@MarkZabel . I got a great deal on a mint condition, old Affinity FSR Tele, the top loader ones. This is my first Squier tele, and was really surprised at the quality. (I mainly own Fender) The only thing i didn't like was the raw neck feeling (subjective preference ), and the pickups. The neck thickness was lovely and thick-C .
@TheWoogie2
@TheWoogie2 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome review mark! As a side note, what was the song you played to demo the neck pickups while clean?
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It's a riff based upon My Girl as the basic building block. I'm trying to think where I got that bridge with the moving bass line on the C chord.
@samcarsonx
@samcarsonx Жыл бұрын
I love the sound of the classic vibe but I prefer the look of the affinity’s pale neck!
@sweetocelotte
@sweetocelotte 2 жыл бұрын
I like the bridge better on the affinity and the neck on the classic vibe
@khmerchristianrecord73
@khmerchristianrecord73 10 ай бұрын
this video is great
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 10 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@nym053
@nym053 2 жыл бұрын
The Classic Vibe seems to have more bite, but also serms to have a higher output. So definetly a difference in pickups
@dragan4658
@dragan4658 3 жыл бұрын
Both nice guitars! The classic vibe is leaps better than the affinity and is said to be better than the Comparable fender model as well. Thanks for sharing Mark!
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jeffreybabino8161
@jeffreybabino8161 2 жыл бұрын
The affinity sounds great thanks
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 2 жыл бұрын
Great!
@bumblefritz
@bumblefritz 3 жыл бұрын
I've had the Classic Vibe 60's Custom Telecaster in sunburst with binding (Chinese era). I got in 2010 and it's been one of my main players since. Super solid guitar.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@barbmelle3136
@barbmelle3136 3 жыл бұрын
From Leo: After many guitars over many years I have come to prefer the vintage Kluson style tuners. No string ends to poke your fingers, snag on clothes or tear the inside of a gig bag. Easy to string, easy to restring if you need to take the guitar apart. I have a CV Strat and am so happy with it I would certainly entertain a CV Telecaster.
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting!! I'm not a fan of Kluson style on Fenders - but only because of the shape of the pegs. But I like how they do what you say! Didn't know Leo said that, thanks!
@barbmelle3136
@barbmelle3136 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarkZabel Hi Mark, That is not a quote from Mr. Fender. I am just one of 146,000 Americans named Leo: I write "from Leo: " when I am sharing a laptop with my wife for social media use. Sorry for any confusion.
@REPVILE
@REPVILE 3 жыл бұрын
@@barbmelle3136 You could just make another user account and not sound like douche
@vicenzor9699
@vicenzor9699 2 жыл бұрын
@@barbmelle3136 😂
@rodolforopelato4246
@rodolforopelato4246 3 жыл бұрын
Bought the affinity race red. What can I say? It's fantastic. It sounds terrific in my opinion. Ok the knobs are really "cheap", but it is a telecaster guys. I have some guitars, from Harley Benton to Gibson Les Paul Artisan an Strato American Standard. I bought the 2018 version of tele affinity, it is not a "through body string": don't mind if you are not a purist, it is perfect: clear as a telecaster. I think I will not change the pick ups. Probably just some work for the noise of pick ups!
@MarkZabel
@MarkZabel 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats! Yeah, great guitars. The thinner body with the top-load bridge is my favorite now. Lighter weight!
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