Classical Composer Reaction/Analysis to DANCING MAD from FINAL FANTASY by Nobuo Uematso | Ep. 766

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Doug Helvering

Doug Helvering

Ай бұрын

#finalfantasy #dancingmad
In this edition of #thedailydoug, I'm returning to the music of Nobuo Uematso and the Final Fantasy gaming franchise with the epic work Dancing Mad. This music accompanies the player through the culmination of the game and the final battle...and the music is simply epic. There's great orchestral rips and dissonances...choir chants...electric guitars...and everything in between! I know you'll love this one!
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@vlander1992able
@vlander1992able Ай бұрын
While dancing mad is playing you ascend an almost biblical tower of flesh and machinery melded together by the twisting corrupted power of a long dead magic once again taken from it's source hidden away for thousands of years and now in the hands of a once lowly, traitorous jester turned and changed, descending from the heavens on rays of light, the God of Magic made flesh. This blew my 10 year old mind, I got into prog, metal, and classical because of this music, life changing.
@davidramirezrodriguez3373
@davidramirezrodriguez3373 Ай бұрын
Yo, beautiful thoughts
@Hato1992
@Hato1992 Ай бұрын
Whats more, pillar symbolize hell, purgatory and heaven.
@DontMockMySmock
@DontMockMySmock Ай бұрын
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@TheDondoran
@TheDondoran Ай бұрын
Same. It wasn't until a few years ago that I made the connection between Uematso's music (and definitely this song in particular) and my love for prog and metal. FF6 is my all-time favorite game, and its music kind of changed my life. At the very least, it was very formative music. I think that experiencing this music in the context of the game also gives it a lot more weight than the CDs and cassettes I was listening to at the time. Long songs kind of became an obsession of mine because it felt like a journey. A song like this just never gets boring.
@ThePancakeChef
@ThePancakeChef Ай бұрын
This song blew me away as a teenager and One Winged Angel did not exist back then yet. This is easily one of my favourite songs but all of the Final Fantasy music enchanted me. Very cool thoughts on the song.
@gameoverguyl2577
@gameoverguyl2577 Ай бұрын
There's a common saying that originated in a youtube comment somewhere, but someone said "Nobuo Uematsu composing Dancing Mad on the SNES sound chip would be like Michaelangelo making the Sistene Chapel out of crayon."
@darkarpatron
@darkarpatron Ай бұрын
I know I've seen Jeremy Jahns say as much in his review of the game.
@LordMalice6d9
@LordMalice6d9 Ай бұрын
I​t is Nobuo's greatest musical achievement for the FF series Iin my opinion!
@aaronavila2950
@aaronavila2950 18 күн бұрын
This quote can be sourced to popular KZfaq movie/game reviewer Jeremy Jahns
@heroinpenguin666
@heroinpenguin666 Ай бұрын
Nobuo Uematsu is a true master of video game composition. I would always recommend his work to anyone interrested in game soundtracks.
@KyleBaran90
@KyleBaran90 Ай бұрын
I think a lot of the younger gamers that are now making their own games or audio, and were inspired by him
@LordMalice6d9
@LordMalice6d9 Ай бұрын
It really comes down to Nobuo Uematsu and Koji Kondo, and David Wise as some of the best video game composers.
@KyleBaran90
@KyleBaran90 Ай бұрын
@@LordMalice6d9 Don't forget Tim Follin !! absolute legend
@LordMalice6d9
@LordMalice6d9 Ай бұрын
​@KyleBaran90 There are so many great ones to choose from. But in terms of widespread influence in the video game music sphere, it's really Nobuo Uematsu, Koji Kondo, and David Wise in the top 3.
@seekittycat
@seekittycat Ай бұрын
I was a child when I first faced this boss. My parents thought it was just a silly game for kids. I'm so grateful this composer decided to write and squeeze this absolute beast into something that's pretty much a floppy disk. He saw this pixel game with swords and decided the story deserves THIS. Nobuo LOVES prog rock and I'm always excited when I hear it in his songs because I know he's happy to write it ❤️.
@wren7195
@wren7195 Ай бұрын
The man is indeed a legend. I can imagine how satisfying it would've been for him to finally hear someone orchestrate it the way he heard it back in the day. (That or the poor guy was just dead, DEAD tired from composing like 19 operas in a month and a half using just a toaster, a spoon, waffle iron and NONE of those connected to the internet)
@clintonwilcox4690
@clintonwilcox4690 Ай бұрын
The most amazing thing of all is Nobuo Uematsu never had any formal training in music. So for him to be able to compose masterpieces like this is astounding. Uematsu would most definitely be named among modern composers like John Williams if he were composing for movies and not video games.
@Soldano999
@Soldano999 Ай бұрын
I would generally agree but this particular track was a complete ripoff of the kansas "leftoverture" album.
@TopOfAllWorlds
@TopOfAllWorlds Ай бұрын
​@@Soldano999 elaborate, this is the first I've heard of this
@clintonwilcox4690
@clintonwilcox4690 Ай бұрын
@@Soldano999 This is also the first I've heard of it. Kansas is my all-time favorite rock band, and I've heard the Leftoverture album dozens of times. I've never associated it with this track. On what grounds do you claim it to be a complete ripoff of that album?
@Soldano999
@Soldano999 Ай бұрын
@@clintonwilcox4690 maybe you could listen to "magnum opus" one more time then.
@clintonwilcox4690
@clintonwilcox4690 Ай бұрын
@@Soldano999 You said this track is a complete ripoff of the album. Now you're making a different claim. I'm familiar with Magnum Opus, but I haven't played FFVI all the way through (and it's been over a decade since I've tried). I am familiar with Dancing Mad, though, having the Black Mages' version on CD. So again, how is this track a complete ripoff of the Leftoverture album, or Magnum Opus, in general? What similarities are present that you think Uematus was ripping off that song or the album, in general? I ask because even if there are similarities (and I don't think they're as similar as you seem to think they are), that doesn't make it a ripoff of the song or the album. There are millions of songs and only 12 notes, so obviously nothing is truly original because there are only so many notes and chords a composer can work with.
@jonathonbartos3061
@jonathonbartos3061 Ай бұрын
13:27 Is perhaps my favorite moment ever. Hearing the full choir, orchestra, and organ come in on that absolutely gorgeous mournful melody, with the electric guitar wailing above just hits on a deep level. For the context of this boss battle, it is the final battle against Kefka, who is basically an insane clown due to the awful experiments performed upon him by the Gestahlian Empire. Earlier in the game Kefka had made himself into a god, and effectively destroyed the world (the game is split in half, with the first half being the World of Balance, and the second half the World of Ruin). Kefka is a deeply nihilistic individual, who at this point has grown jaded with even godhood, and has decided that he will end all of existence since your group still has hope, which he finds to be a horrible joke. Your party has, through the course of the World of Ruin, seen the hope that still springs even amongst the sorrow and suffering of that destroyed world, and is now fighting to give the world a chance to rebuild. Each segment of this song is a different phase of the boss battle, and each phase is inspired by "The Divine Comedy". You are scaling a tower in the fight, with the tower being the enemy for much of the fight. The first phase ( 2:52 - 6:19) is the battle against the first portion of the tower, representing "Inferno". The second phase (6:20 - 7:47) is the next portion of the tower, "Purgatorio". The third phase (7:48 - 10:30) is the final part of the tower, and represents "Paradiso". This version skips the transitional bridge between the 3rd phase and the final phase, which sees the party leave the tower, enter the golden sky of heaven, and Kefka's godly form descend to meet them. The final phase then goes from 10:31 to the end of the piece, and doesn't have a direct Divine Comedy segment, as it is meant to represent seeing the face of God Himself. There's a reason I consider "Dancing Mad" to be Nobuo Uematsu's finest work, even above the more well-known "One-Winged Angel" from Final Fantasy VII. The vivid musical imagery he uses throughout the piece is remarkable. And that he was able to make such a masterpiece with the Super Famicom/Super Nintendo's limited sound capabilities is nothing short of remarkable.
@TarossBlackburn
@TarossBlackburn 8 күн бұрын
I do feel it's missing a little bit when they don't include the soundclip of the laugh at least once just before the last part starts.
@Tmpp88
@Tmpp88 Ай бұрын
Dancing Mad is a proper suite, each of the four sections corresponds to a different phase in Kefka's penultimate bossfight. All of his battle stages have their own gimmicks that you have to adjust to, and if you fail you start aaaaall over again! This was both game mechanically and compositionally mind-blowing back in the mid-90s, one of the most memorable video game encounters of all time!
@Soldano999
@Soldano999 Ай бұрын
All of of it is ripped off the Kansas album "leftoverture"
@TheApol93
@TheApol93 Ай бұрын
@@Soldano999 no
@for_the_lore5567
@for_the_lore5567 Ай бұрын
Great music, but the easiest final boss of Final Fantasy’s 8-bit era.
@VikTimmy
@VikTimmy Ай бұрын
@@Soldano999this is so far from true it’s not even funny, and yes I went and listened to the entire album you brought up before commenting on just how wrong you are.
@DaisyAzuras
@DaisyAzuras Ай бұрын
@@for_the_lore5567this was a snes game. The 3rd of the 16 bit era.
@Remenschneider
@Remenschneider Ай бұрын
The file size of FF6 is about 3 MB in total. That's equivalent to about 3 minutes of mp3 playback (128Kbps)
@IDESTROYER236
@IDESTROYER236 Ай бұрын
So you also know, for the "3" theme: Final Fantasy 6 was released as Final Fantasy 3 in the US.
@alzurath2607
@alzurath2607 Ай бұрын
Nobou Uematsu is a legend, and certainly one of the greatest modern composers.
@blondafro4112
@blondafro4112 Ай бұрын
how many real modern composers do you actually know to make this statement?
@ms.mittenz
@ms.mittenz Ай бұрын
Praise be the fox God
@Goujiki
@Goujiki Ай бұрын
@@blondafro4112 How much do you know of Uematsu to imply that's not the case? Or perhaps it's because he composed music for video games, a medium that you do not consider to be "real art" ...
@Alucard12456
@Alucard12456 Ай бұрын
@@blondafro4112and you?
@SilverKnight16
@SilverKnight16 Ай бұрын
Never clicked so fast in my life. Edit: I love me some One Winged Angel, but Dancing Mad is definitely the best song Uematsu has ever written, and may well be the best video game piece of music ever written. Edit 2: If you want another one of Uematsu's best, look up "Answers" from Final Fantasy XIV. That one is definitely a journey of a song.
@Krescentwolf
@Krescentwolf Күн бұрын
The eternal battle of the Final Fantasy fandom: Dancing Mad vs. One-Winged Angel... XD
@r2dezki
@r2dezki Ай бұрын
The fact that they made this with a 16-bit sound chip and it is absolutely glorious in the game is mind-blowing.
@Psianth
@Psianth Ай бұрын
11:45 I love this moment. It's a little leitmotif from Kefka's personal theme song in the rest of the game. Kefka himself is basically a mad jester, trying to become a god, which I think comes through in his theme and Dancing Mad
@MyNameIsBucket
@MyNameIsBucket Ай бұрын
also 9:01
@Boricua2k
@Boricua2k Ай бұрын
Yes! So many people hear that part and don't know what it represents. It's Kefka's jester theme peeking thru for a second. Both playful and menacing like Kefka himself
@Kmmlc
@Kmmlc Ай бұрын
Not trying to become a god. He becomes the god of magic and is eventually defeated.
@mr.j3rs3y
@mr.j3rs3y Ай бұрын
The craziest part about the entirety of the 4th movement of Dancing Mad, minus the sad and tragic part near its middle and end is that it is an overhauled remix of Kefka’s theme song, it’s just far more intense sounding.
@Valekraft
@Valekraft 17 күн бұрын
It's in the bass line in the section before also
@ignacioalvarezcorona89
@ignacioalvarezcorona89 Ай бұрын
8-bit Music Theory has a detailed analysis of the piece that I'm sure will interest you, Doug.
@thebrigandier
@thebrigandier Ай бұрын
This is a good track, even more incredible when you consider it was on a Nintendo cartridge.
@HittokiriBattousai17
@HittokiriBattousai17 Ай бұрын
Uematsu is the 8-Bit god
@cames
@cames Ай бұрын
Exactly the reason why ff6 has the best ost in final fantasy series Uematsu wrote a fking opera in it
@HittokiriBattousai17
@HittokiriBattousai17 Ай бұрын
@@cames Nah, that's FFVIII by a lightyear.
@Psianth
@Psianth Ай бұрын
@@HittokiriBattousai17 16-bit for this one, it was on snes, but your point stands
@dwb1980
@dwb1980 Ай бұрын
Never underestimate the pure sonic excellence of a Nintendo cartridge. That's GB, NES, SNES, N64 ect ect. Packed full of leg wiggling fist pumping hits! YEAH!
@Elric70
@Elric70 Ай бұрын
This is part of the reason why a lot of video game fans consider Uematsu-san one of the greats, and if you want to hear more of his compositions in a more "metal" style, check him out with his band The Black Mages.
@vayix
@vayix Ай бұрын
^ This! There is a great version that they do of Dancing Mad.
@Soldano999
@Soldano999 Ай бұрын
Except the whole thing was ripped of a kansas song on the leftoverture album...
@A_wholeass_kim
@A_wholeass_kim Ай бұрын
@@Soldano999 which song?
@LittleAl016
@LittleAl016 Ай бұрын
​@@Soldano999 Citation needed.
@0Impeesa
@0Impeesa Ай бұрын
The Black Mages version of Dancing Mad in particular is really good, because it flows like a complete composition and not individual movements designed to loop separately.
@HollowGolem
@HollowGolem Ай бұрын
Yeah, that Bach pastiche in the middle (which plays during the part of the fight where Kefka looks like a parody of an angelic being) was where I went from liking the song to loving it. And then that final prog-rock breakdown at the end solidified it. Uematsu was on fire for pretty much all of the 90's. The song also hits well at the end of the game because of how it weaves earlier motifs from the game (specifically Kefka's own theme). I've always said, video game soundtracks are often more like opera than film soundtracks because of the way in which character is associated so closely with music, and how much variation and reprise are used to contextualize scenes. It's also worth noting with this song that each movement would repeat until you finished that part of the fight, and then would transition to the next as you finished. And this is even more impressive when you hear what the limitations of the soundcard on the SNES were, in terms of how many channels could play at once, and the limited range of MIDI it could produce. The analogy has been used that Uematsu painted the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel in crayon on this piece, and it's an apt one. The Black Mages version is spectacular as well. Much more rock/metal oriented but still contains all of those movements.
@davidramirezrodriguez3373
@davidramirezrodriguez3373 Ай бұрын
Exactly, and I mean, really a lot video game music is just outstanding taking account of what could be done, is the fine art of obtaining water from rocks
@inrainbows1829
@inrainbows1829 Ай бұрын
I'm 43 just turned 43 on April 9th It took me 20+ years to beat FF6 Im excited to hear Doug's breakdown
@Mowmauf
@Mowmauf Ай бұрын
I just finished the game for the first time in March it was an amazing game. It was the pixel remaster that came out on the switch
@inrainbows1829
@inrainbows1829 Ай бұрын
@Mowmauf ps4 pixel remaster only on I didn't complete is 2 but all other pixel remasters 7 I'm working on 9 right now
@Mowmauf
@Mowmauf Ай бұрын
@@inrainbows1829 I just finished FF 10 today for the first time as well
@inrainbows1829
@inrainbows1829 Ай бұрын
@Mowmauf 10 is next for me I went in a weird order After Pixel remasters I bought 16 finished it went back to 15 finished it now on 9 then to 10
@inrainbows1829
@inrainbows1829 Ай бұрын
@Mowmauf greatest role playing video games ever Chrono trigger is good too
@Lagzlot
@Lagzlot Ай бұрын
Dancing Mad is what happens when the composer sits down on a long flight, starts composing a final boss song, and never stops.
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Ай бұрын
Honestly you missed out by not listening to the original version. Hearing what it accomplished with all the limitations it had on it from a technical perspective is really important for context.
@IvoryMadness.
@IvoryMadness. Ай бұрын
Well new you know why we were so loud about this piece! 😂 That's not exactly a reaction request, but you should def listen to the original version of dancing mad from the snes when you got the time!
@xellestar
@xellestar Ай бұрын
If I had to recommend 1 version for someone to listen to it'd have to be the black mages album version, it's really the definitive one
@simbelanger1
@simbelanger1 Ай бұрын
@@xellestar agreed, amazing what they did
@GeorgeBezerra85
@GeorgeBezerra85 Ай бұрын
@@xellestar I was the one to recommend this version (thought it better suited the channel's premise), but I'm 100% into a comeback to this in the Black Mages version! I weas so split between those two when writing my recommendation!
@carbxncle
@carbxncle Ай бұрын
I think the FFXIV version catches the essence of Dancing Mad the best
@Mrdardas99
@Mrdardas99 Ай бұрын
FYI, this is the final battle (after a 50+ hour game!), where you are fighting Kefka, the court jester of the evil empire who went power mad and killed the emperor before infusing himself with magic by upsetting the balance of the old gods and destroying most of the planet in the process - to become a nihilistic self-proclaimed God. After fighting all the way up his tower, you meet him with all of your party members and after a dialogue where you try to show him there is value in life and love, he decides to fight you all and destroy everything. The fight itself is made up of 4 parts, as is the musical piece, where each one is distinct visually also we get some musical references to familiar tracks. All in all, along with Chrono Trigger, this is the best soundtrack for a video game ever - and all done on the extremely limited synthesizer of the SNES!!!!! You can also find many renditions of tracks from it: solo piano albums, string quartets, metal bands, up to full orchestral arrangements - the music really is that iconic and well written. I'd suggest going for a few short themes and contrasting the original SNES track to those modern full-bodied versions for the fun of it, they are only a couple of minutes each (looping, in the game).
@wren7195
@wren7195 Ай бұрын
"Now behold, I am divine, my proclamations are absolute, my holiness can't be questioned (listen to that pipe organ)... Wait, stop that. Stop, not dying. BITCH I'm a GOD I DO WHAT I WANT! ...wait why am I disintegrating?"
@Satarack
@Satarack Ай бұрын
It's worth seeing a recording of this final boss fight to get a sense of what each section of the song represents. In short the final battle mimics the journey of Dante through Inferno, Purgatorio, Paradiso, and finally meeting God. In the story Kefka has usurped the three goddesses of Magic and has taken their place as the God of Magic, and the final battle is meant to be Kefka's satire of God as he has descended into nihilism. The first part of the fight is against a Satan-like demon, similar to the depiction in the Inferno, trapped at the waist in a frozen lake at the center of hell; where the beating of his wings causes as he tries to escape causes the lake to only further freeze and harden. The second part depicts a group of humans including a crucified woman bound to machines, representing the punishments of purgatory. The third part depicts a scene inspired by the Michelangelo statue Madonna della Pietà, where Mary is holding the crucified Jesus. Finally, with the protagonists rising up through the clouds, Kefka, the villain turned God, descends to meet them and greets them with mocking laughter.
@krisjen5612
@krisjen5612 Ай бұрын
Thank you for reacting to one of my all time fav Nobuo Uematsu songs, Doug!
@Doug.Helvering
@Doug.Helvering Ай бұрын
Thank you for your incredible support!
@metaridley0015
@metaridley0015 Ай бұрын
I saw this preformed live at the Symphony Center in Chicago. This guy was jamming on the huge pipe organ they have there and it was glorious.
@deshende
@deshende Ай бұрын
I was going to make the same comment! Pipe organ during one of the Chicago shows definitely made an impression on me.
@maximilianocarrion1599
@maximilianocarrion1599 Ай бұрын
Every time I've seen an organist get the chance to go all out, they absolutely take it and it's the best!
@W1ngedBlitzer
@W1ngedBlitzer Ай бұрын
I saw this in Chicago as well, in June 2010. 1st time Distant Worlds did a “Marathon” concert. 2 concerts on the same day. One-Winged Angel sung by an audience “choir” is wild.
@devinsmith5926
@devinsmith5926 Ай бұрын
No freakin way! 😮😮😮!!!
@lobojoe6351
@lobojoe6351 Ай бұрын
Doug's rock-out pout always makes me smile.
@IslandUsurper
@IslandUsurper Ай бұрын
I’ve only seen a couple of his videos, but I still know that if it looks like he’s sneering, he likes it. 😂
@heroinpenguin666
@heroinpenguin666 Ай бұрын
As a lifelong videogame nerd I enjoy Doug discovering some good music from games. For a game on the SNES with all its limitations FF 6 has some really great tracks.
@trabucodonosor838
@trabucodonosor838 Ай бұрын
Prog rock in videogame music? TIM FOLLIN is your man
@CIYT88
@CIYT88 6 күн бұрын
Also, shout out to Geoff Follin, his brother and life long musical collaborator. I've just this moment learned he passed away just over a week ago. RIP Geoff
@trabucodonosor838
@trabucodonosor838 6 күн бұрын
@@CIYT88 sad to hear that, and I agree. RIP Geoff
@robstorm6867
@robstorm6867 Ай бұрын
To fully get Dancing Mad, you have to know Kefka's main theme that plays whenever he is present. It uses his melodic themes throughout Dancing Mad. Like during the organ solo section, you can hear his melody in the bass, but in major instead of its usual minor before going back to minor. During the proggy section, another part of his theme is used. Also the intro is the same as the introduction to the game itself. It is a culmination as you said that's full effect comes with having experienced those motifs throughout the game.
@anotora9362
@anotora9362 5 күн бұрын
Leitmotifs that run throughout games are an enormous strength of Uematsu specifically, and also generally something that sets video game music apart in how you have to kind of contextualize it
@guilhermefardinhermes9211
@guilhermefardinhermes9211 Ай бұрын
He should do Liberi Fatali next!! Awesome video!
@ZeGarrepito
@ZeGarrepito Ай бұрын
Anything from FF8 would be sick.
@Bluesruse
@Bluesruse Ай бұрын
This. FF8 through 10 is where the music peaked imo.
@Mynamesbob8
@Mynamesbob8 Ай бұрын
He would absolutely love Liberi Fatali
@MrKlarthums
@MrKlarthums Ай бұрын
In this part of Uematsu's career, he was probably the strongest in terms of melodic emphasis and near the top of leitmotif usage to build a coherent soundtrack across the entire gameplay experience. Good to mention the ELP influence 10:40 as you can definitely hear it in Uematsu's work, primarily battle themes and especially ELP's Tarkus. Prog was a big influence to the early Japanese VGM composers.
@Apfelkind4000
@Apfelkind4000 Ай бұрын
Leitmotiv is a word in English? Funny. 😂
@Arkouchie
@Arkouchie Ай бұрын
@@Apfelkind4000 yeah, but we angecize it a bit, calling it leitmotif, with an f instead of a v
@Apfelkind4000
@Apfelkind4000 Ай бұрын
@@Arkouchie Up until now, I only knew about Kindergarten and Poltergeist.
@asthasr2
@asthasr2 Ай бұрын
@@Apfelkind4000 zeitgeist? liverwurst? kohlrabi? sauerkraut? ...
@Apfelkind4000
@Apfelkind4000 Ай бұрын
@@asthasr2 Liverwurst is "Leberwurst" in German. The rest I dodn't know.
@thalesn
@thalesn Ай бұрын
It's even more impressive when you consider that this was composed in the 16-bit era. The Super Nintendo had a pretty advanced sound chip for its time, but it was still late 80s/early 90s tech.
@krisjen5612
@krisjen5612 Ай бұрын
His music on the snes platform was just as innovative as the game’s graphics, design, and gameplay. With each installment in the series, too.
@ditmavic
@ditmavic Ай бұрын
You'll have to do more of these, so cool, had everything a prog/classic/rock fan like me wants in a piece of music. I'm not a gamer but love the great tunes they come with!
@Relyx
@Relyx Ай бұрын
Uematsu has always been my favourite composer in gaming, precisely because of his clear appreciation and inspiration of hard rock and prog rock. The first long form game I ever played was Final Fantasy 7, and I remember the first time I got into a boss fight and heard the boss fight theme "Those Who Fight Further" and I thought "wow this really sounds like Deep Purple". Big fan ever since
@williamsanborn9195
@williamsanborn9195 Ай бұрын
I’ve said this many times, and I’ll say it again. Uematsu is a freaking GENIUS! To think he wrote one of gaming’s most iconic final boss themes ON THE SUPER FAMICOM is simply amazing! 🤩 Suggestions for you if you’re looking into Uematsu’s Final Fantasy works, I recommend either “Eyes on Me” from Final Fantasy VIII or “Melodies of Life” from Final Fantasy IX. Both pieces are fantastic!
@dkg8985
@dkg8985 Ай бұрын
It's structured as a 4 movement movement symphony and the boss battle is a 4 phase fight so 1 movement per phase. Kefkas theme is the "regurgitation" as you said it pops up a few times. The story the music tells as you're fighting Kefka once he's become a god is really something and it seemed you were catching on to some of the themes even without having played the game nor knowing anything about the characters. It might be worth having a quick listen to the original just to hear how different it sounds.
@richardisworthless
@richardisworthless Ай бұрын
Incredible breakdown of a classic track. I'm amazed how this dude can just break down exactly what's being played the second he hears it.
@Kurotora86
@Kurotora86 Ай бұрын
We had the 3rd movement played at our wedding on church organ, really cool moment. Unfortunately divorved now but a nice memory lol.
@jashin5252
@jashin5252 Ай бұрын
I’d do anything to hear Doug react to anything from Shadow of the Colossus. The best video game OST ever in my opinion.
@eternalgamer9270
@eternalgamer9270 Ай бұрын
Basically Dancing Mad is supposed to represent the Final Fantasy 6 main villain Kefka who is basically the very incarnation of chaos so this theme being so chaotic is very fitting.👍
@LockeTheCole
@LockeTheCole Ай бұрын
This is a great version, although I still prefer The Black Mages' (Nobou Uematsu's Prog band) version of the song.
@thend4427
@thend4427 Ай бұрын
He has to listen to some black mages songs someday
@RallBoyable
@RallBoyable Ай бұрын
The boss has 4 stages with this theme playing, starting from hell, ascending to heaven. Nobuo is a genius
@moestrif7431
@moestrif7431 Ай бұрын
if you enjoyed that, continue to listen to Uematsu works ! he worked from the first to the tenth episode if i'm correct and few other games too, and there are at least one marvelous track in every games he worked on ! he had his own group of instrumental rock, The Black Mages (he was playing himself during concert) and made 3 albums covering his own composition from Final Fantasy with his band, if you want a playlist of final fantasy tracks to listen ( not necessarily these albums in particular) just use the track list of it ! The Black Mages I, II and III are probably the best track list for a final fantasy best of ! but don't forget to listen to other Squaresoft/SquareEnix composer, they are all very talented and made a bunch of very cool music for nearly 40 years now ! like Kenji Ito, Masayoshi Soken or Yoko Shimomura for exemple :)
@Qrczaqq
@Qrczaqq Ай бұрын
6:52 Funnily enough, there is a rendition of this track that is included in one of the Final Fantasy XIV OST CDs, and it is split there into 4 movements with this one being the 2nd one.
@SerenaCrocker
@SerenaCrocker Ай бұрын
I saw them perform this arrangement at the Royal Albert Hall, and my word that organ hits so hard live
@Jamie720p
@Jamie720p Ай бұрын
The section at the end as the boss realises he is about to be defeated, and especially the highly emotional guitar at 12:50 onwards, really gives me a sense of Kefka's narcissism and psychosis; I love it. It sounds to me as though he's crying out at the injustice of being killed by the heroes, when he is clearly the infallible and just God who deserves to rule forever. The Black Mages (a rock band with Uematsu and other musicians from the company who made the Final Fantasy games) have a great version of this song, and that end section in particular really evokes that feeling in me. Others have likely mentioned it, but the entire suite seems to be from his point of view - he sees himself as God - not in the usual "small G" way that a lot of Japanese anime and videogame antagonists are, but he sees himself as an omnipotent Big G God, hence the church organ and various Christian themes during the battle
@user-ef4dl9ey9w
@user-ef4dl9ey9w Ай бұрын
immediate like at 6 seconds !. edit: DISTANT WORLDS is the Orchestral version. The Black Mages is the rock version.
@thend4427
@thend4427 Ай бұрын
Love the black mages songs
@GeorgeBezerra85
@GeorgeBezerra85 Ай бұрын
Hi Doug! So happy you reacted to this, as I was the one who initially suggested it (with a lot of people who supported the suggestion afterwards, lol) So, risking to repeat what other people already said: the battle has four parts, hence the four movement structure. The first three are a Tower of Babil-like structure, called Statue of the Gods, which has three tiers you have to ascend, to then get to Kefka on the fourth stage of the fight. The reason the original OST is 17 minutes is that it plays each "movement" twice before progressing to the next -- in the actual game, whenever you beat a tier of the statue, you go to the next and the music is (cleverly) cut wherever it is to progress to the next movement. Each movement is repeated how many times it is needed before going to the next one. The fight is an epic in a sense that it is 4 uninterrupted parts and you set up 3 teams for it -- whenever a team is wiped, the next one enters. All 3 teams wiped and it's game over and you have to restart from the beginning. About the choice of version: the original OST is amazing, but totally 8-bit (as expected for a SNES game). The Black Mages version is full prog/hard rock and also an amazing version and I was really split between that one and this, but I felt this had more layers to analyze because of all the symphonic orchestral parts. However, I 100% support a comeback/revisit to this one in the Black Mages version. I searched for a live Distant Worlds version, but the only one I found was full-orchestral (even the last movement) and recorded from a cell phone. Doesn't look like something that was allowed by the concert's production. Also, I laughed so much at the Emerson, Lake & Palmer reference, lmao Thank you so much for reacting to this. You made several Final Fantasy fans really happy!
@V.F.D.DaleSalvador
@V.F.D.DaleSalvador Ай бұрын
Doug would LOVE the Music from Dark Souls and Bloodborne. Such HUGE Symphonic sounds.
@poethepenguin2438
@poethepenguin2438 Ай бұрын
Agree he needs to hear Lady Maria of the Astral Clocktower, Ludwig the Holy Blade and Gehrman, the First Hunter. Each of them has such amazing orchestration.
@RynKimVay
@RynKimVay Күн бұрын
I love that on this recording, Uematsu himself is on the organ. As much as I enjoy One Winged Angel, it will never beat the utter brilliance that is Dancing Mad - the themes, the fight going on during the music... it will forever be my favorite. I genuinely think Dancing Mad is the greatest piece of music that Uematsu has ever created. As a lover of his work since the start, nothing in my life has ever compared to sitting in the audience and *hearing* this piece played. I loved it as 14-year-old girl playing Final Fantasy VI, sitting there gobsmacked, and as a 30-odd-year-old woman, sitting in the seats watching Arnie Roth conduct? I still get goosebumps and am moved to tears. My friends, who were never big on video games and came with me to humor me as I bought their tickets, became huge Uematsu fans after this concert. They always point to Dancing Mad as the linchpin of their entire change of opinion on video game music, and now will go out of their way to find it. There's a reason why many of us old-school Final Fantasy fans cite VI as our favorite, and the music is the icing on an incredibly beautiful, moving, and lore dense cake. There's even opera in there!
@nicobones9608
@nicobones9608 Ай бұрын
That shift in the music at 13:00 always brings tears to my eyes. You can just hear the pain in it. Kefka's pain, the pain his victims suffered, and the pain the heroes have endured in trying to stop him. So well done!
@skawttie1115
@skawttie1115 Ай бұрын
Now if Liquid Tension Experiment can just cover this song, I can die a happy man... thanks for reviewing this childhood favorite!
@Soldano999
@Soldano999 Ай бұрын
Kansas already did... In the 70's. The album's name is "leftoverture" And this entire song is a complete ripoff
@DravenxEyeless
@DravenxEyeless Ай бұрын
@@Soldano999 how many more times are you gonna try and be a troll?
@Soldano999
@Soldano999 Ай бұрын
@@DravenxEyeless i'm not trying to be a troll. Listen to magnum opus by kansas first then tell me you don't find very obvious similarities
@Arkouchie
@Arkouchie Ай бұрын
@@Soldano999 Is it, perhaps, the case, that Both are referencing the same musical tradition of symphonic suites, and by doing so, end up with similarities by coincidence of attempting the same thing?
@Soldano999
@Soldano999 Ай бұрын
@@Arkouchie i'm not talking about similar styles i'm talking about specific parts that are exactky the same
@V.F.D.DaleSalvador
@V.F.D.DaleSalvador Ай бұрын
If you want proggy video game music, you gotta check out Tim Foillin. Pictionary Main Theme and Solstice Main Theme. also the Streets of Rage 2 Soundtrack from Yuzo Koshiro is good too. Not as proggy, but lots of cool harmonies and such. I'd be cool if Doug starts listening to the original works. I get the appeal of orchestra covers/renditins, but the beauty in some of these songs is the limitations back then and the things composers did to overcome them, like Tim Follin.
@yuantheblue
@yuantheblue Ай бұрын
It brings me joy to see someone who has never heard this fantastic track before respond with so much enthusiasm. It certainly is one of my top favorite with or without game footage. Also, a big deal is how much the organ shines through on this one, its a lovely sound.
@tuomaspuumalainen3018
@tuomaspuumalainen3018 Ай бұрын
Nobuo Uematsu is such a brilliant composer!
@ZeGarrepito
@ZeGarrepito Ай бұрын
Dancing Mad is top tier music. It's one of my absolute favorites.
@jecht35
@jecht35 Ай бұрын
I really hope to see you do more and more Final Fantasy Music. No matter where you go in the series it's incredible. The soft tones of 'To Zanarkand' from Final Fantasy 10, all of the different versions of 'Battle at the Big Bridge' that originated from Final Fantasy 5, the surreal music like "The Extreme" or 'Liberi Fatali' and even the powerful 'Maybe I'm A Lion' from Final Fantasy 8. You couldn't lose seeing all the amazing directions this series' music goes.
@c_brenon
@c_brenon Ай бұрын
My favourite video game song since the first time I heard it on my SNES back in 1994. Really happy that you react to it.
@lancerhades971
@lancerhades971 Ай бұрын
the "level" this plays on, is the Final Boss, whose a jester clown, That is also GOD. ALSO has DESTORYED THE WORLD. This fight is not to save the day, but for revenge. the movements are different stages of the boss fight, all representing something. i believe the order is, Anger, Madness, Making fun of The god he killed, The full blown Final Fight
@pvolt7
@pvolt7 Ай бұрын
This one... Playing this game back in the 90s as a teenager to this music was just mindblowing. Absolute classic. Thanks for this!
@hannahananab
@hannahananab Ай бұрын
The Distant Worlds albums are some of my favorite to listen to. I absolutely love the Final Fantasy music.
@ronaldotimberlake
@ronaldotimberlake Ай бұрын
I wonder if the professor adds any of these songs to his playlists.. I sure can't get one day without hearing this masterpiece. Nobuo is a genius
@bradobannon3289
@bradobannon3289 26 күн бұрын
So this is indeed the final boss music, but for a little more background, the main villain is an insane jester-like character with a painted face. A murderous mad clown capable of absolutely heinous atrocities, with a laugh that chilled to the bone even in 16-bit. Also, the fight with him has multiple stages, as he becomes an almost god-like being with multiple forms by the end of the game. The extreme shifts capture his ever-turbulent madness perfectly. Absolute chef's kiss to this!
@devinsmith5926
@devinsmith5926 Ай бұрын
Dude, you can literally be the first person to do what you are doing with FF and anime. You will most likely dominate this "little" niche. No one else has done quite what your doing and we all love it
@frostmourne1986
@frostmourne1986 Ай бұрын
The change of my man's face each time it goes into another section lmao
@tenkiforecast
@tenkiforecast Ай бұрын
Nobou Uematsu composed a lot, and I mean a lot, of iconic pieces of video game music that still stick with me. I think Dancing Mad is probably his best track, it's up there with "Answers" from FFXIV and "To Zanarkand" from FFX. It's a mini-symphony, it's working in so many leitmotifs while playing with the entire structure, and he wrote a freaking *fugue* into Dancing Mad. A *fugue*. On a *SUPER NINTENDO CHIP*. It's astonishing just how much he worked into Dancing Mad, and almost every arrangement for symphony is phenomenal. It's one of my favorite pieces for someone to play on organ. The Distant Worlds version has my favorite version of the first 3 movements, and the Black Mages' version from 2003 has my favorite version of the final movement. Either way, it's an astonishing piece of music that still floors me to this day.
@githane
@githane Ай бұрын
Dancing Mad... I remember when Final Fantasy 6 (released as 3 in the US) came out. My friend and I played it together and it is honestly still one of the best games I have ever played. Hands down STILL my favorite FF game. So much of the OST is incredible. You mention how it's structured like a mini-symphony, which is interesting because the game is really structured like an opera/play. It's incredible. I would highly recommend Celes and Terras theme as well as the other monumental piece, Aria di mezzo Carattere. I was lucky enough to see it performed by Video Games Live with Jillian Averse about a decade ago; I was in tears. It's incredible seeing appreciation for game music like this, knowing it can hit without needing to have the background and nostalgia of the track. Also maybe check out some FF14 tracks, totally not because and old friend of mine got to sing on some of them :-D
@verver6
@verver6 Ай бұрын
I cant wait! This is an all time favorite of mine
@MrBimboMetal
@MrBimboMetal Ай бұрын
Absolutely majestic piece of art by Uematsu, glad you got to it!
@brianparker5323
@brianparker5323 Ай бұрын
This game and its music have always mesmerized me. There's quite a bit of depth to this piece to analyze in regards to Kefka and what he is/becomes and his worldview. I suggest maybe looking up Marco Meatball here on youtube, hes got a breakdown and it might be interesting to get the two of you to talk/colab.
@ridethesnake6920
@ridethesnake6920 Ай бұрын
I never comment on KZfaq, but I was glad you finally encountered Nobuo Uematsu at his best. I know you got a great ear (which is nice to observe, btw) and Uematsus music just goes to so many places and splits up traditional harmony in so many ways... It was nice to see you encounter one of his best.
@sultanofswing44
@sultanofswing44 Ай бұрын
I'm glad you did the distant worlds version. I love these albums.
@xeroscl
@xeroscl Ай бұрын
One of the best video game tracks in history for one of the best villains on video game history
@EmperorQuinking
@EmperorQuinking Ай бұрын
I know this is an odd request but I think you'd find "Two Planets approach the Roche limit" from the Kirby franchise to be outstanding. The games have some pretty heavy lore that most outside of the fandom don't know about. It's this lore that gives incredible feeling and meanings to the games outside of general gameplay that is. I can't forget to mention Shinya Kumazaki the general director of said games is an amazing artist and actually draws some stunning almost eldritch horror-type art that may also be another reason for such deep implications of the games.
@scottjohnston1673
@scottjohnston1673 Ай бұрын
A contender for best game ever made. If you haven’t played it, you definitely should.
@johndorian1644
@johndorian1644 Ай бұрын
This piece becomes even better when you realize the composer wove in elements of music from earlier in the game-the third movement showed parts of The Decisive Battle and Kefka’s Theme mixed together from earlier key moments of gameplay. It’s a masterclass of using subtle elements of music to subconsciously make the listener remember why the struggle is so important.
@AndreySomov1
@AndreySomov1 Ай бұрын
Yay!!! Almost what I asked for😅👌 Still hoping for Jake Kaufman's Impressario
@g-01
@g-01 Ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this moment since you started your channel! This is going to be an epic video.
@devinsmith5926
@devinsmith5926 Ай бұрын
I freakin love watching you work it out dude!!! THAT IS DOPE!!!!
@b1llygo4t
@b1llygo4t 15 сағат бұрын
11:46 is a call back to Kefka's Theme that you hear throughout the game. It's a mischievous little ditty that always foreshadows some screwed up event. Hearing it peak through the chaos with it's much fuller than previous sound is quite scary. It adds a layer of gravity to the final battle. He is an insane clown that poisoned an entire castle full of innocent people and laughed about it earlier in the story. And now he has become a god.
@Aurainmaker
@Aurainmaker Ай бұрын
You can't beat the original version of this track for me. It's incredible and written with technological limitations that are nigh impossible to parse in 2024.The soundfont is gorgeous too.
@therealblackl1ster110
@therealblackl1ster110 Ай бұрын
Though I never played FFVI (I need to fix that 😅), this song has become one of my absolute favorites. GaMetal’s Dancing Mad 2019 Remix was my introduction to this song and is just as beautiful as this.
@Water_Lily44
@Water_Lily44 Ай бұрын
This was a great breakdown of a legendary song! If I may make a suggestion to your remark about wanting to see someone play through the game to see where the musical journey takes place, I'd recommend a KZfaqr by the name of ProJared. This is his favorite game of all time and his playthrough from a few years back really lets you experience the story alongside him and appreciate everything it has to offer. I think his most commonly used phrase throughout is "Are you ready for the best song in the game?" It's a long watch, for sure, but if you've got some time to kill and the curiosity to spare, it's one beautiful, memorable adventure.
@lanonyme-vod8090
@lanonyme-vod8090 Ай бұрын
Final Fantasy is just amazing I'm so glad you reacted to it! (Funny how you mentioned ELP as Nobuo himself has told they inspired his music)
@ThatVexx
@ThatVexx Ай бұрын
If you want to see a short(ish) video showing how the gameplay and previous themes are represented in Dancing Mad, I feel like this is the way to go: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iMiVi6uFqby8aJc.html (plus I just love the whole channel in general)
@fratt41
@fratt41 Ай бұрын
Quite a lot of music from vidya gaems is really damn incredible.
@THeDoMeTB
@THeDoMeTB Ай бұрын
the way uematsu paints feelings and pictures, from good to evil, from hope to despair, from godly to merely human... in just one coherent song? also fitting the circumstances when its played? "absolutely blows my mind" is a severe understatement
@gravecactus
@gravecactus 24 күн бұрын
as a band nerd and a video game nerd there is something especially gratifying about this
@Velphus
@Velphus Ай бұрын
Amazing song and a masterful reaction, i love how you breakdown the parts and play along!Well, one of my favorites that i would love to see you reviewing is "Ludwig the accursed/holy blade" from the game called Bloodborne, such an amazing piece and the actual lyrics from the song tells you the tale of Ludwig in a song about melancholy, sadness and somewhat redemption for this great character!
@frozennz1
@frozennz1 Ай бұрын
Loved your review of this track and glad to hear you liked it! It is a real journey.
@Mr.Stizblee
@Mr.Stizblee Ай бұрын
I love it whenever you make videos about video game music! It's the primary reason I subscribed. Orchestral music is very common in JRPG games nowadays and I think a bit part of that is the vast influence and enduring popularity of the old Final Fantasy games. JRPGs have always been my favorite game genre but for some reason I never really got into Final Fantasy. The only one I ever completed was Final Fantasy X. I don't know if you take comments suggestions but I just want to list some games and music from them that I especially love. Recently I've been absolutely obsessed with the Project Moon games, which all take place in an extremely disturbing dystopian setting called the City. The City is ruled by these megacorporations called Wings that each control a physics defying super technology called a Singularity. Some examples of Singularities are healing nanomachines, time manipulation, and near instant transportation. Unfortunately all of the singularities have some sort of dark secret to them that requires the Wings to commit unspeakable atrocities in order to use them. The series music covers a wide range of genres including heavy metal, classical, and even EDM at one point. However, by far the most stand out music is the vocal songs by the band Mili that play during certain key boss fights in Library of Ruina and Limbus Company. They're vastly different from any other boss themes I've heard but they fit incredibly well with the setting with lyrics that heavily tie in to the story. Some particularly noteworthy songs are From a Place of Love, Gone Angels, Between Two Worlds, and Compass. The openings for Library of Ruina and Limbus company are also by Mili and are excellent as well. Especially when listened to along with the opening video. Another personal favorite series of mine is the Xenoblade series. Each of the Xenoblade games have different settings with certain shared elements and recurring themes so it's hard to give an overview of it like with Project Moon but they're all science fantasy JRPGs with a heavy focus on exploring vast beautiful worlds. In terms of music Xenoblade tends to be either classical or rock. Some particularly famous songs are You Will Know Our Names, Gaur Plain, Tragic Decision, Battle!!, Drifting Soul, Incoming! There's countless other series I want to recommend like Ace Attorney, Trails, Kirby, Persona, The Legend of Zelda, Touhou, and many more but I've already rambled on long enough.
@MagnaKay
@MagnaKay Ай бұрын
Dancing Mad is one of my all-time faves! I glad you got to experience it. And from a technical standpoint the whole FF6 OST is quite insane and Dancing Mad in particular. Uematsu (and sound team?) really squeezed the soundchips for all they had, it's really worth it giving a listen to how the composition was rendered on them originally.
@strahinjagov
@strahinjagov Ай бұрын
YEEEEEEES, I've been hoping you'd do this one!
@alejandroguerra7561
@alejandroguerra7561 Ай бұрын
Simply incredible, every time a listen to this piece I appreciate it more
@krotchy79
@krotchy79 Ай бұрын
Loving this rabbit hole you have found yourself going down. Not bad for a self-taught musician who started with very limited tools when the first Final Fantasy came out. A lot of the franchise success can be given to that man.
@user-sd9xu9wz6e
@user-sd9xu9wz6e Ай бұрын
sir Doug! nice selection! big respect from japan. ありがとう〜
@aidanreppert8484
@aidanreppert8484 Ай бұрын
I would love to see you react to some Persona music! It's a game series that has gotten really well-known for its music. I'd recommend "Color Your Night", "It's Going Down Now", "Burn my Dread", and "Full Moon, Full Life - Full Version" from Persona 3 Reload. And "Life Will Change", "Last Suprise", "Rivers In The Desert", and "I Believe" from Persona 5/Persona 5 Royal. They're all pretty great tracks! Each of the games leans towards different genres so you never know what to expect with a new release!
@Rodrik234
@Rodrik234 Ай бұрын
This is my first time listening to the Distant Worlds II version of it and I have to say the prog section did not dissapoint.
@Metathrom
@Metathrom Ай бұрын
He actually did it! Awesome.
@McBibz
@McBibz Ай бұрын
I don't really comment much on KZfaq anymore but I wanted you to know I really love your channel, Doug. Pretty sure nobody else has reacted to both old school Uematsu and Pain of Salvation with that amount of knowledge and genuine excitement. Thank you for that! If I may recommend, the channel 8-bit Music Theory did a great analysis series on FFVI. It's perfect to understand the context and subtleties of Dancing Mad without necessarily playing the game. After the two most iconic final boss themes, hope you'll give a listen to a character or location theme. Uematsu's sense of melody is arguably the most important aspect of his style. Fisherman's Horizon is a popular one and there's also a Distant Worlds version played by the Royal Stockholm Philharmonic Orchestra. Keep it up!
@TheLunyka
@TheLunyka 8 күн бұрын
The fact that they were able to fit a Multi-Movement Orchestral piece in an SNES games at all blows my mind. Like if you were to ever listen to the original piece from the game you can tell it was made with an Orchestral style in mind, which is part of why lends itself so well to having been played at Distant Worlds. Also you were right when you said "Oh this would be a contrasting 2nd movement" as there are 4 movements to Dancing Mad, and you said that when the actual 2nd movement was playing. But also yeah you picking up on the different sections, you were picking up on all the different movements. It really is an incredible song, and an incredible feat for music in games when it was first released.
@OliBP
@OliBP Ай бұрын
OMG How the hell did i missed that!! AWESOME!!!! Thanks for reacting to this!!!! :) I've been a huge fan of video game music for a very long time, and in the last few years i really got into progressive music and i am amazed at how much some of my favorites music game composer were definitely huge prog fan! I have way too much suggestions for video game song, but i would highly recommend music from Xenogears or Xenoblade Chronicles 1. I'm sure it would make you feel similar to Dancing Mad.
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