Clover Is NOT Hard To Kill - DON'T Let ANYONE Tell You Otherwise

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This is the best time to kill clover and you don't even need to use chemicals!
I use concentrated FeHEDTA that I spray on my young weeds and many of them die very fast and none of the dangerous chemicals need to be applied to the lawn ever!
This type of chelated iron can even be sprayed on baby grass without damaging it; that's something that traditional chemical-based weed killers can't do for at least a couple months.
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Dense and widespread mature stands of clover may need chemicals to knock them out efficiently. For that I would recommend a stronger chemical mix unless you wanted to apply FeHEDTA multiple times a few weeks apart for a few months.
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@TurfMechanic 11 ай бұрын

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@drcode4 Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I have all of the sudden been getting clover popping up faster than I can kill it. I will try this.

@hectorlopez4771 Жыл бұрын

Hello just found your channel a couple month’s ago, I like the education behind your videos.

@TurfMechanic Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the comment Hector! I love that there's a large cohort out there that values the extra depth I try to offer.

@jahyoda 3 ай бұрын

Watched and absorbed this content...thanks again

@TurfMechanic 3 ай бұрын

👊

@BackwoodsLawnCare Жыл бұрын

Great video, I personally use Feista and it actually does a good job…and it’s legal here ( Ontario Canada ) . Takes a few applications sometimes for….certain weeds but it does the trick! 👌🏻

@TurfMechanic Жыл бұрын

That's great to know that that's an option for Canadians! I get questions from others up in Canada all the time about product options and not being from there it's sometimes hard to give helpful responses. With iron herbicides at least we don't have to worry about multiple applications adding unnecessary amounts of harsh chemicals into the soil. Multiple apps of Fiesta over the season is simple enough, :)

@Nathan-ho7vr Жыл бұрын

I'm in Toronto, where do you find your fiesta?

@miroslodki2195 Жыл бұрын

@@Nathan-ho7vr amazon canada

@TofuInc Жыл бұрын

I always use and iron based herbicide first thing, late winter. Knocks out most of the winter weeds before the lawn is really even awake. My only problem with it is the price. I used Natria this year and basically takes an entire bottle. $ per oz I think Fiesta is the cheapest option. If I keep it over the winter it always seems to get chunky though, I'm not sure what that's about.

@TurfMechanic Жыл бұрын

I've also found through trial and error that the stuff works pretty well on winter weeds on the warmer days of early December, Kills many of them off before they fully go winter dormant. Also, iron fertilizers can go chunky when they get cold too. Haven't seen it in iron herbicides but that doesn't mean it won't or can't happen.

@larrywong6331 2 ай бұрын

Is this product safe for St Augustine grass?

@thefishboyy18 9 күн бұрын

Can I apply this on baby grass?

@lauratempestini5719 3 ай бұрын

Should we fertile before after it rains

@brettknoss486 Жыл бұрын

Is there a selective herbacide to control kochia, that doesn't kill clover or alfalfa?

@guntravis9092 2 ай бұрын

Thanks! I have an infestation of CBC in my vineyard. Is this iron product safe to use between rows of grape vines and around their cordons at the ground level or will it penetrate the soil and be a problem for rood uptake?

@TurfMechanic 2 ай бұрын

I wish I could tell you for sure but I don't know for sure; I don't think FeHEDTA will harm the vines when sprayed low to the ground below the cordon. I have a single mature grape vine in my backyard and I have never sprayed FeHEDTA near it but I don't think I would be worried to do so. I know most other herbicides can pose a lot of risk when used in a vineyard. As for FeHEDTA it is a special kind of chelated iron that gets taken up by leaf material. As far as I know it isn't taken up by the roots of plants because it isn't watered in so it simply oxidizes on the soil. I would bet it would be safe for the vineyard but as is always the case. Do a trial first on an area you can closely monitor before hitting the whole vineyard. FeHEDTA will start working in hours and by day two you'll see a significant suppression of the burr clover.

@austinedwards9889 Жыл бұрын

How can i kill weeds without killing grass (tall fescue) or clover?

@BenjaminT.Minkler Жыл бұрын

oh, I was wondering if mesotrione would damage annual rye? I thought I heard it effects bent grass(which I'll get going end of summer after the annual rye cover crop) so I didn't use the starter fertilizer I have with mesotrione in it, but so far I don't see any weeds in that area anyway .... tho I am a little disappointed in the amount of germination I got out of the annual rye this spring, which could have been due to a few factors; strange temperature swings to both extremes, over watering, dead lifeless compacted clay soil, maybe fungus, or I just always suck at new spring seedings

@TurfMechanic Жыл бұрын

honestly, I'm not sure if meso is going to damage or kill annual rye. I made a video where I was going to apply it to my side of the driveway lawn but after filming I decided against it since I wasn't seeing much weed pressure and knew I had plenty of iron herbicide in the garage to fall back on. Maybe I'll drop a bit of scotts built for seeding on a patch of the annual rye to see how it handles the meso.

@Aboiko2010 10 ай бұрын

It's October and i want to seed my backyard but it's full of young clover. Can i still use this product and seed my backyard at the same time? Will it affect seed germination?

@barbaravanerp4598 Жыл бұрын

Are there any lawn pesticides that don’t kill clover but kill dandelions? I’m doing a mix of Buffalo grass, clover and thyme.

@TurfMechanic Жыл бұрын

I'm assuming you meant lawn herbicides. One of the most common herbicides out there is 24d. It's usually mixed with other herbicieds to make a more comprehensive product that damages or kills a wider array of weeds. Wth clover 24d s the weakest option so if you were to apply only 24d on a mixed stand of buffalo and clover then the clover would hold up better against ocassional application while the buffalo would be untouched. I was going to overseed my buffalo hill yard last fall but we decided to move so I researched this pretty good. My plant for weed kill on the buffalo lawn mixed with clover was straight 24d so once you get weeds under control with that you could then switch over to regular spot treatment with FeHEDTA. Now having said all that I have no idea about the thyme. Make sure to research 24d effects on thyme before you do a blanket application.

@paddleduck5328 Жыл бұрын

Iron works on my buttercup oxalis/woodsorrel ☘️ but it usually takes a couple of applications Fun seeing it turn black and crispy the next day

@TurfMechanic Жыл бұрын

yep, it is satisfying to see the damage so quickly. and with the attitude on knowing some weeds will require multiple apps then it's not too disappointing to see not everything completely dead after 3-4 weeks. Everything in lawn care is about gradual improvement.

@paddleduck5328 Жыл бұрын

Plus I love that it’s not poison for handling/breathing and that it doesn’t hurt the turf or the soil life😊 hope you’re having a nice weekend and enjoying your new digs

@MoparSmith1 Жыл бұрын

At 3:44 Will putting down granular Ironite in the spring (and watering it in) kill clover?

@nielsvlietland5406 Жыл бұрын

nice tip !! it souns crazy, but if you put sugar on youre lawn it will kill clover to and works as a fertilizer for grass.

@ADAWC 11 ай бұрын

Sugar attracts ants; hopefully, no termites around! Otherwise, if they move in, it will be a bigger problem!

@EdsterL 10 ай бұрын

I purchased a bag of the box store called Scotts ThickRlawn and have notice my lawn with clover sprouting in certain areas. I work hard to fix my lawn, it's the fall here in New England, should I wait to the spring to work on this?

@TurfMechanic 10 ай бұрын

If you don't want clover then it's best to attack it as early as possible while it's still a small plant. If you plan on getting rid of it then start now is what I would recommend

@EdsterL 10 ай бұрын

Just purchased Ortho Weed B Gon 🤞🏼

@SamsLawn Жыл бұрын

I just got hold of some chelated iron, man that stuff is hard to find in Sweden. I am actually going to try it out on some of our most common weeds here, not only the young plants but the more mature established ones too and see if it can kill them off. Making that video right now, gonna make sure to say that Brian says it only kills baby weeds though 😅😉

@TurfMechanic Жыл бұрын

since you sad chelated iron make sure it says FeHEDTA on it if you plan on testing it on weeds. If it's just Fe fertilizer then it won't touch any weeds.

@taildragger77DK Жыл бұрын

will it green up the grass? Is it like regular liquid iron? Thanks

@TurfMechanic Жыл бұрын

it should not substantially make a color difference to regular turf grass

@stash7714 Жыл бұрын

I use round up for lawns whenever I see them and spot spray, poof gone

@TurfMechanic Жыл бұрын

definitely a good strategy for those perfectly fine using OTC chems! Doing what you do is basically the same thing as killing them when they are young and immature so your technique is quite effective!

@Animusapertus Жыл бұрын

Anyone help, I've sprayed what I'm pretty sure is wild violet (here in the northeast u.s) twice now over a 3 week period with triclopyr and dicamba products which seems to wilt and brown the plant but it doesn't go away!! Some is even green and not bothered at all, and the stuff thats wilted is just hanging on still. I don't want to keep spraying it i'm trying to follow warnings not to spray too much. ugh these damn violets are all over the lawn

@ar007r 2 ай бұрын

same thing happens to me. I had to spray it 3 times this spring just to see any difference. Regardless what the instructions are Im just going to keep spraying it directly as long as it takes. Probably going to end up spraying it 6 times this year. By the way the same was true with my weed infested lawn when I purchased my home. After spraying it a couple times a year for 2-3 years there are no weeds. Its hard to keep under control because the connecting lawn at my neighbours is more weed than grass. Ive sprayed onto her yard just to stop the creep over.

@michaelhamm5941 Жыл бұрын

@ChuckMcInerney 10 ай бұрын

Why does it seem that all the good stuff you have left links to cannot be shipped to my location in california? Is there anything else that I might be able to get? Especially for killing california bur clover on a newly planted lawn? Thanks

@paddleduck5328 10 ай бұрын

Just a novice homeowner, but I’ve used Bonide brand liquid iron concentrate labeled Garden Rich. I don’t think this brands iron is fehedta, but it still worked for me. I mix it it a little stronger than the highest ratio recommended on the label, and apply with a large pump sprayer wand. It’s like $15 at ace hardware and I’ve still got a little left in my bottle after using it several times. I needed to do 3 applications over several weeks to get it all dead but I’m happy with how it’s worked

@AmericanNuke54 3 ай бұрын

Your first issue is living in California. There's a whole nother country out beyond those borders that isn't run like China.

@davidali4176 Жыл бұрын

I noticed that some of your grass was yellow orange ish underneath the green top growth why is that because some of my grass is the same thats why I ask.

@TurfMechanic Жыл бұрын

I'm assuming you are talking about the new grass by my driveway. Those are mostly the first and second sets of leaves that the grass put on after germinating that die off as the plants start to mature. If you grow grass or any plant from seed those first few leaves grow quickly and help the plant establish themselves and then the plant starts leafing out with it's longer term growth leaving the first sets to wither and die off. What you are seeing in my "next to the driveway grass" is annual ryegrass which I'm using as a cover crop before seeding in a warm season improved kikuyugrass later this summer. Annual rye grows very fast and leggy leaving much larger and noticeable first leaves than some of the perennial types. In your lawn you are probably seeing something similar under your green canopy or just a thicker layer of dead grass debris that is common in clumping grasses. Disease may be an issue but I wouldn't bet on that being your issue in mid-Spring.

@LL-mt2nz Жыл бұрын

So would fertilizer with iron in the spring also slow down clover?

@K-Zone Жыл бұрын

probably not. The iron has to be a certain type as mentioned in the video, and a liquid so the plant can take it up and kills it. I dont think it will really slow down unless there's a looooooot of iron in the soil.

@TurfMechanic Жыл бұрын

nope, it's all about the formulation. Iron based herbicides are chelated with Hydroxyethylethylenediaminetriacetic otherwise known as HEDTA. That acid is different than how iron based fertilizers are packaged to improve the grass. I'm not smart enough to tell you how or why; I just know it's different and it won't work the same way.

@carlstrom3898 Жыл бұрын

What about using tenacity?

@TurfMechanic Жыл бұрын

I did mention mesotrione in the video in the context that most people don't put it down at time of seeding so yes it could be used as a post-emergent on young newly germinated clover but the more natural way to kill cover at this stage is to do what I did in this video...and I would argue making a small batch of FeHEDTA for spray is easier and cheaper than making a small batch of Tenacity. If have Tenacity though and want to use it it will also stop new germination for the next 3-4 weeks so there is some benefit it going down that route; it's just not right for everyone.

@silitekmodder5681 8 ай бұрын

Clover is beneficial, it's nirtogen fixing for your grass. It was rebranded a weed to sell herbicides. Lawns used to be a mix of grass and clover

@JoeKoors 3 ай бұрын

Then have all the clover in your lawn that you want :). Id rather have grass so it is not beneficial to me. :)

@hi-ccowboy7983 3 ай бұрын

And it looks terrible. Post this nonsense in r/NoLawns if you think weeds are attractive.

@silitekmodder5681 3 ай бұрын

@@hi-ccowboy7983 But the bunnies that come to graze are cute!

@wally7856 2 ай бұрын

You know what else adds nitrogen for your grass? Scott's turfbuilder green MAX, 3lbs/k, no clover necessary.

@killingkuddles Жыл бұрын

Have you tried sugar? Does it only work on young clover plants too or would it kill mature plants?

@TofuInc Жыл бұрын

Whats the logic behind sugar? I've never heard of that.

@TurfMechanic Жыл бұрын

Like Tofulnc said, ive never heard of using sugar on baby weeds like clover before. I may take some time to research that a bit but I can't think of a reason off the top of my head why that might work.

@killingkuddles Жыл бұрын

@@TurfMechanic I only heard it recently and thought it was internet voodoo magic. I think it only kills clover but people swear by it

@killingkuddles Жыл бұрын

@@TofuInc it gives clover too much of something it doesn’t like. I’m too dumb to know the science behind it. I just saw it on the internet and was wondering if it really works too

@TurfMechanic Жыл бұрын

Never trust us internet folks LOL :D On a serious note though; I'll take some time this week to research it and see if I think there's a reason to consider it. It's a concept I've never heard of before.

@chrisglenn2096 Жыл бұрын

The real question is what you have been using to fertilize that beard!! Looking as thick and lush as ever!

@TurfMechanic Жыл бұрын

hard to go wrong with coffee in the AM and IPA in the PM :D

@mattliamjack3293 Жыл бұрын

Organic possibilities?

@TurfMechanic Жыл бұрын

I love going organic & natural whenever I can! IMO FeHEDTA is natural which is close enough to organic in my book.

@mayfieldx Жыл бұрын

I just use sugar, 😊

@CoachJeremy Жыл бұрын

Meanwhile I just spread clover seed across my entire lawn. Drought resistant and adds nitrogen!

@TurfMechanic Жыл бұрын

I still want to have a mixed stand of buffalograss and clover, should give good year round color requiring very little water and next to no fertilizer. Lots of ways to maintain a lawn that aren't so traditional.

@steveplays5408 Ай бұрын

Then u get bees that sting the kids feet as they play

@jimblomquist8413 4 ай бұрын

Will this process effect Silver Carpet?

@JohnConrad 9 ай бұрын

Why did you move to California? I thought people were moving out?

@nicknova703 Жыл бұрын

Dallis grass, goose grass, poa… go!

@marcaustin Жыл бұрын

The only thing that kills Dallis grass in my yard is 43% Glypho. Fire didn't even work

@ballershanelle Жыл бұрын

@@marcaustin what about poa. I see it dying right now and turning very tan as the Temp hits 77 in VA. I wonder if i should take pictures and then hit those areas with what product and when

@TurfMechanic Жыл бұрын

I may have to eventually do a deep dive into some of these grassy weeds but you could start down the rabbit hole yourself with independent research into Fluazifop. I've got that stuff in my garage and will be using it later this year to control or help eliminate bermuda from my eventual back lawn and possibly my side lawn prior to Kikuyu planting. PE in fall can seriously slow POA and if you only have a bit of it hand pulling is easier than most people realize. For poa, and goose grass a very deep and heavy scarifier session and mower bagging may help more than you realize too. Both plants being so damaged by mechanical removal can be thinned considerably by deep heavy scarification kind of like I talked about it this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mNuChM55vratXWQ.html

@TurfMechanic Жыл бұрын

Hey Marc, I've never personally battled goosegrass but it doesn't regrow when the crown is removed njaes.rutgers.edu/fs1309/ so consider trying the mechanical removal of it using a scarifier or power rake set to the deepest setting: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mNuChM55vratXWQ.html

@danb340 Жыл бұрын

Probably should be planting clover instead.

@TurfMechanic Жыл бұрын

I think a microclover lawn would be awesome but definitely not burr clover 😝

@petehayes4051 Жыл бұрын

Clover seed used to be sold with grass seed back in the 50’s and 60’s. Petroleum companies ( which make a good number of herbicides) decided to market clover as a weed and, fortunately, they just happened to have the solution! I’m not sure why you want to kill a nitrogen fixing plant and pollinator attractant to create an unnatural monoculture.

@Dbatem Жыл бұрын

The roots of clover travel into garden beds etc. it is a weed because you cannot control it

@ChristianMcAngus 6 ай бұрын

I've read that chemical companies post-ww2 developed new herbicides which indiscriminately targeted a whole range of plants including clover. The easiest way to deal with this was to convince people that clover is a weed.

@richardhussong7232 3 ай бұрын

@@Dbatem - Grass does the same. It's my most hated garden weed.

@RevealedFilms 2 ай бұрын

It looks like crap that’s why.

@paulhansenofficial Ай бұрын

It doesn't. Lawns with clover tend to stay greener and require far less maintenance. @@RevealedFilms

@buruzn09 Жыл бұрын

Not only I keeping my clover, I’m putting down clover seeds with my grass over seeding.

@danielnovak77 Ай бұрын

In Denmark we have this mf all year round 😅

@tomkroeger7517 Жыл бұрын

Clover lawns GREAT! !

@bross824 Жыл бұрын

Why does every one hate clover?

@MrPESensation Жыл бұрын

Clover is Greedy! It absorbs the Nitrogen BUT it will not release it back into the soil.

@miroslodki2195 Жыл бұрын

they want grass only

@ADAWC 11 ай бұрын

@@MrPESensationClover is a nitrogen fixer. When it dies, its nitrogen goes back to the earth and the grass gets the nitrogen and other nutrients. Clover is also called green manure. It boosts up other plants'nutrient levels. Its long roots may also prevents erosion

@MrPESensation 11 ай бұрын

@ADAWC Actually NO. Clover is a clear indicator that the Lawn is deficient in Nitrogen, stunt it's growth or kill clover I crank up the Nitrogen and watch it go away.

@juzoli Жыл бұрын

Of course it is not hard to kill. Just put round up on it. I’m not sure why would you want to kill it, but it is sure not hard at all.

@TurfMechanic Жыл бұрын

Truth, glyphosate is beast mode. Overkill in Spring though imo. I almost plated clover in a Buffalo lawn before we started to move last year. Some people want to rid their lawns of it though so I want to suggest the most palletable option of it. For me though with burr clover I have no interest in having that in my grass where animals and small kids walk on the burrs bare foot.

@alidi4144 Жыл бұрын

Ya get that weed and feed and it will kill your whole lawn grass and clover

@ForestToFarm 3 ай бұрын

I love clover in my yard ha ha. If we did not already have it I would plant some. Terry

@TurfMechanic 3 ай бұрын

I came really close to seeding microclover into parts of my yard at my last place. I had a hill yard that was a ways away from the house, I didn't irrigate there or fertilize so I thought it could be a good candidate for mixing into Buffalograss for year round color, nitrogen fixation, and pollinator support. Unfortunately we moved away before I got around to that.