CNC Routers - Feeds and Speeds EXPLAINED For Beginners, CNC Router Bits Feeds and Speeds
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Күн бұрынIf you are wondering what are feeds and speeds for CNC routers, or what is the difference between feeds and speeds, and why are feeds and speeds important, this video tutorial explains feeds and speeds for the beginner for your CNC woodworking.
You will learn what feeds and speeds are, about feed rates, plunge rates and spindle speeds and why spindle speeds and feed rates matter depending on the material you are carving with your CNC router and the type of CNC router bit you are using.
Trying to calculate feeds and speeds for beginners is a bit too much to take in up from. That's why we start with baseline feeds and speeds.
You will learn how to get a CNC router database library for your CNC router design software for Carveco, Carbide Create, Fusion 360, and Cut2d.
Another way to think about feeds and speeds are cutting speed vs feed rate. Cutting speed is how fast the cutting edge of the router bit is removing material during its rotation. Feed rate, as explained in the feeds and speeds video, is how fast the CNC router bit is moving through the material.
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@FlipFlopPilot Жыл бұрын
A great beginner video on feeds and speeds but I have to say telling your audience to ignore “chip load” is doing them a disservice. That’s probably the most important piece of information users need. Why? Not all machines are created equal and a hobby machine made with extruded aluminum is not as rigid as say a welded steel frame found on better quality machines. The two machines will run at different feed rates as you can’t plow into hardwood or aluminum at the same feed rate and DOC on both machines. This is where chip load come into play. If you understand chip load you can vary the feeds and speeds for your particular machine and still maintain the same chip load and get great, clean cuts. Router bit manufacturers publish chip load data for this very reason, not all machines are created equal. The Vectric software will calculate chip load for you so you can get the best feeds and speeds for your machine. I suggest you talk to whoever makes your bits and include the chip load for each bit in your app. In my opinion this should be taught first before you talk about feeds and speeds. Understanding chip load will make you a better CNC user. If a user calculates feeds and speeds with your app and when they start cutting they are getting some chatter, if they understand chip load it’s an easy adjustment. They can simply adjust the feeds and speeds for their machine while maintaining the correct chip load so as not to overheat the bit or break it. When you break a bit, it’s because the chip load was wrong. When you overheat and burn material, it’s because the chip load was wrong. Chip load is a very important topic and CNC router users need to understand it to make the best cuts with their machine and get the longest life out of their router bits.
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Flip-Flop Pilot, you bring up some really great points brother. You seem to be an advanced user my friend. I appreciate the input.
@LYTOMIZE_Woodshop Жыл бұрын
Boy do I wish all this existed when I started my CNC journey over a year ago... that being said, it is so amazing to have all the feed and speed info in my pocket when I am at my computer. To have the adjusted info for the different material types is gravy. You are the best resource out there and I'm so grateful to have been learning from you, even several months before I even bought my Longmill! Thanks!
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Michael, sorry for the timing my friend! I'm glad you've been using the app. I totally agree with you about being able to adjust the types of wood, it's a game changer! I'm grateful to be a part of your CNC journey brother. Keep up the excellent work!
@darrylpococke6401 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video Garett! My Longmill just arrived and I will be assembling it tomorrow I'm so excited to get it together but have to take care of some family business today so I have to put off putting it together. I still need to update my tool data base and really appreciate the app and the download for feeds and speeds. Thank you for everything you put out for the CNC community and guiding us through this process. Hope all is well in Maddison today! God Speed Brother!
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Darryl, I'm glad it was helpful. Congrats on getting your machine brother, right on! I'm looking forward to you getting it set up and ready to roll! And you're so welcome for the app my friend, I'm hoping it will help your workshop run a little more smoothly getting started. Happy cutting and god speed brother!
@hoguesignature3273 Жыл бұрын
Hi Garrett! I have been in the CNC world for 4 years now. You are an endless source of information. You are such a generous man. Tank you so much!!!
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Hogue, you are so welcome my friend. Glad you enjoyed this video.
@timtaylor7337 Жыл бұрын
Garrett, I'm so glad you put this detailed video out today. I've been working on a large cribbage board out of 1.5 Beautiful Cherry and have been petrified to dive into it in fear of destroying my material. I've been practicing on some 2x10's glued together and feeds and speeds are critical. Cherry being harder than fir is a game changer. Thank you for the incredible app and all the info you give all of us cnc'ers. Tim J Taylor
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Tim, you're so welcome my friend! I'm glad it came in handy for you brother and just in time for your awesome cribbage board! With all your practice trials going well on other materials, just adjust your feeds and speeds accordingly and you're ready to roll on the cherry! You got this!
@johnstacy5330 4 ай бұрын
I bought the Hog and I'm absolutely blown away on the amount of time this has saved me in the little time I've had it. Thanks for offering this tool!
@IDCWoodcraft 4 ай бұрын
johnstacy5330, you are so welcome brother! Glad to hear you like the HOG.
@cornerstoneww Жыл бұрын
I snapped a ball end router bit this weekend. Feeds and speeds are definitely important! And, each bit has a specific purpose, usually. Great instructional video for people new to the CNC world!
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
CornerStone Woodworks, glad you enjoyed it! It happens to the best of us my friend, but I couldn't agree with you more, those feeds and speeds definitely matter!
@alpscraftshack599 Жыл бұрын
A great video, as usual Bro. Wouldn't expect anything less from you. Simple, clear, concise, easy to understand explanations, especially for beginners. On a side note: I have an appoint with my surgeon tomorrow. Hopefully everything will go fine, and he will give me the 'all clear' / 'green light', so that I can get back out into the shop on a regular basis. Hopefully see you on Wednesday's Live Stream.
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Alp, thanks brother! I appreciate the kind words. As for your appointment, I will keep my fingers crossed that you get the green light and will be back in the shop ASAP! See you soon!
@OurShowOurStory Жыл бұрын
You have no idea how much I appreciate you and your channel!
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Our Show Our Story, it's my pleasure! I'm glad to be a part of your CNC journey and hopefully make things a little easier for you along the way my friend!
@ronnorris1504 Жыл бұрын
Garrett, as always a very informative video. Told a friend of mine that's just getting into CNC about your website, video's and your dynamic bits as well. Thanks for all you do....
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Ron, you are so welcome my friend.
@ozguzzi Жыл бұрын
Very well explained Garrett.
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
ozguzzi, thanks brother!
@tonycapone321 9 ай бұрын
Garrett, thank you for a great intro to feeds and speeds. I'm new to cnc and your videos are great. Thank you for the videos and explaining everything so anyone can understand it. Also, the new app is awesome! I'll be using it all the time and I'll be ordering bits. Thanks
@IDCWoodcraft 9 ай бұрын
TonyCapone, you are so welcome brother! Glad to hear you enjoy the app!
@ShoHashi Жыл бұрын
Love the video! Been CNCing for almost 3 years now....still a newb at it and your videos are helpful! Always more to learn! I do have VCarve Desktop, but feel a bit more comfortable with Easel. Your app will certainly help!
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
ShoHashi, glad it was helpful brother! I get what you mean, I feel like I still learn something new everyday with these machines. That's what makes them so much fun! I'm looking forward to you giving the app a try and seeing what you think! Happy cutting!
@ruthlessrider100 4 ай бұрын
This is just what I needed, thank you!
@IDCWoodcraft 4 ай бұрын
ruthlessrider100, you're so welcome brother! Happy cncing!
@djchucksta Жыл бұрын
Great video ,thank you for all the information that you share with us 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
DjChucksta, you are so welcome.
@scottnovak6107 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making the app. Awesome!!!
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Scott, glad you like it brother!
@brianharris3602 Жыл бұрын
great information. thanks
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Brian, it is my pleasure brother!
@espressomenu Жыл бұрын
Thankyou for providing the database's on your website great resource 😁😁
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Espressomenu, you're so welcome brother! I'm glad it's been helpful for you!
@R.B_B Жыл бұрын
Great video.
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
RbB, thank you!
@BertramRe Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for adding that App!! I was finally getting into my MK2 and Aspire and got overwhelmed fast. After watching several of your videos and downloading the app (which was the last piece I needed). I'm ready to tackle a baby project. Thanks so much for being there for us Newbs! You helped us decide on the MK2 and we have already purchased your starter kit. A few requests: Can you add Apple, Cedar, Cherry & Yew to the collection of materials? Alphabetical order would be awesome as well.
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Rebecca, glad to hear the app helped you out so much! My team can definitely do that. We will add them all in alphabetical order too.
@santifig799 Жыл бұрын
Hi Garrett, Thank you for all your help, your videos are always helpful. Did you ever do a video about grounding the cnc machines or can you do one?
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Santi, grounding a machine isn't something that you'll typically need to do my friend.
@EdPalmatier Жыл бұрын
Very good information I wish I had 3 years ago
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Ed, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Sorry it wasn't great timing on my end on this one brother!
@grantpeckford8082 Жыл бұрын
Your Awsome!
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Grant, why thank you my friend. Glad you enjoyed this video.
@williamcovell6324 Жыл бұрын
🌵 EXCELLENT 👍 my friend ❤️🌵
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
William, many thanks brother!
@Super1Po Жыл бұрын
Good to know
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Cedric, glad you liked this video brother.
@cottonme173 8 ай бұрын
Great video and I really like that you are so forthcoming with information. It seems like it is almost impossible to pry helpful information out of experienced CNC woodworkers. I downloaded and I like the app also. One thing I needed help with is for the "Spindle" setting it recommended a speed that my 500W @12,000 RPM max spindle can't achieve. Is there a possible update that will have a variable speed or spindle selection for those that don't use routers? I know it's a fairly simple math equation to make the change, but in app would be awesome.
@IDCWoodcraft 8 ай бұрын
cottonme173, i am so happy to hear this one helped you brother! I will let my developer know about this. I agree, something like this in the app would be great!
@mistywoodstradecraft Жыл бұрын
Awesome video and app! I have one app feature request of including the spindle speed in frequency too. My Laguana Swift 4x8 CNC has a frequency spindle drive so I have to convert the IDC spindle speed to frequency (RPM/60). Extra brownie points to be able to print out the bits feeds & speeds so that I can tape it next to my CNC frequency drive! Thank you for all you do!
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Dion, I am so happy to hear you like the app brother! Spindle frequency is a very interesting idea, I will send that to my developer.
@squib6573 Жыл бұрын
Hi Garrett. Request for a KZfaq video - Would you be interested in doing a 'Feeds and Speeds' video in regard to hardwood vs softwood? What, if any, thought process and tool speed/feed adjustments if moving between the two different types of wood. For instance, I like to prototype on less expensive woods which are generally softwoods. But, with softwoods there are challenges with splintering or edges fraying and leaving 'whiskers' and such. Hardwoods cut much cleaner and is easier to do. Cedar is great for outside and weathering but is very difficult to dial in with the speeds and feeds (I often re-run the tool path to clean up the cuts but still find myself with a sharp knife for final trimming). Moving from softwood prototype to a hardwood final product - what things should I take into consideration with feeds and speeds? Just a thought. I can't seem to find this topic discussed in any depth in relation to cnc on this subject. As always, love the vids!
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Squib, this is a great idea brother. I'll definitely add it to my video to-do list! For the time being, I think you'll find the app to be your best friend! On the app you can input which materials you're using and it will generate your suggested feeds and speeds accordingly.
@sled7782 Жыл бұрын
Great F&S video. I do a lot surfacing of mesquite with a 2” 3flute carbide bit. But I do it manually on a 4’x4’ bench top. Is there a tool paths out there.for the x& y axis that I can program?
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Sled, something like a modified spoilboard surfacing file should work well for you brother!
@shainetower398 Жыл бұрын
Hi Garrett what an amazing video for feeds and speeds. I have downloaded the app and followed your tutorial to import the bits into my vcarve pro program. Super stocked about that. Silly question for the group. All the info is in the description for the bit I am using. Does this mean when I am in G Sender I no longer need to go to the firmwear tab and enter the 3 speeds from Sienci Labs website they provided? Hell Im not even sure that I have been entering those 3 numbers correctly for the last 6 months.
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Shaine Tower, I'm glad you enjoyed it my friend. I'm not too sure what you mean about the 3 numbers. If you can send me an email with some screenshots, I may be able to help you a little better.
@grahamrankin4725 Жыл бұрын
I have been using the Android version of the app for a couple of months now. It includes the Makita router settings. Use it to check the speed for each bit as i change bits.
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Graham, I'm glad the app has been treating you well my friend. It's been a game changer!
@resorter66 Жыл бұрын
Garrett what is that black thing that is in between your dust collector hoses in the back round of this video. also do you have a a video showing the file t for flatting boards
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Hey Jeff. That is an online vent system for my CO2 laser. I do not have a program for flattening boards because every board is a different size. That would be an impossible task. But I believe I have a video about it. It follows the same principle as spoil board flattening except you want to make sure that your surfacing follows the grain of the wood, not across it
@satis_btc 2 ай бұрын
great app, many thanks for it, I was thinking about buying your bits, but unfortunately I live in central europe and the price of shipping via UPS is unfortunately too high... so at least thank you in the form of subscription and like
@IDCWoodcraft 2 ай бұрын
satis_btc, I'm sorry brother, I'm looking into better ways to ship to you and our other CNC brothers and sisters in other countries in the future. I'm sorry for the inconvenience my friend!
@tonym7917 Жыл бұрын
Love the content and I’ve learned so much. Quick question…what is the name of the tape you can put on and cut through with machine. Then paint and peel off? Thank you in advance
@alpscraftshack599 Жыл бұрын
Garrett does make great learning videos. I believe you might be referring to the blue tape you see people using. It is called Painter's Tape and usually comes in two (2) colours: blue & green. It comes under a few different names / titles - depending on the manufacturer.
@tonym7917 Жыл бұрын
@@alpscraftshack599 thank you much. Was having brain fog and couldn’t figure it out. Lol
@alpscraftshack599 Жыл бұрын
@@tonym7917 No problem. Happy CNCing.
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Tony, it looks like Alp got to you first my fried! He is absolutely right, a lot of CNCers use blue painters tape. You may also be thinking of Oramask, it's a pretty popular thing to use for this type of thing. Here's a link to the Oramask if you want to take a look: www.toolstoday.com/oracal-oramask-813-stencil-film-12-inch-wide-x-10-foot-long-roll.html.
@rebeccamiller42 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering if you could help out with a whiteside 60 degree feed speed question. I want to primarily make signs using this bit and pine or Baltic birch ply. The recommended feed is 100 and speed 18000, but the carve isn’t totally clean ( fuzz etc) especially on plywood. Would it be possible to slow the feed to 60 without burning up the bit? Thanks! I have your tool database so maybe I’ll check for 60 degree bit recommendation.
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Rebecca, that would be a good call. Try out 60 feet per minute and see if it works out. The tool database or the app are a good reference for you despite using a different brand!
@rmg471 8 ай бұрын
@IDCWoodcraft Garrett, I ordered 12 of your bits over the weekend, the Starter Set and the two 1/4" Tapered Ball Nose bits. I downloaded the VCarve Tool Library and imported. All good. One problem I am going to have is that my spindle cannot reach the RPM that your Feeds/Speeds call for. For example, let's say a bit needs to be spinning at 24,000RPM. I can't reach that. I'd like to know if there's a recommendation for adjusting down the feed rate in accordance with the spindle speed. I suspect the "Chip Load" is the calculation to watch for. I haven't seen this question answered on any of your videos (or Mark Lindsay's), so I thought I'd see if you could address it here. Thanks a bunch.
@rmg471 8 ай бұрын
I tried using the Chip Load method... it worked! These bits cut so much more cleanly than my cheap bits that I had before. It's especially noticeable when VCarving. The 1/4" 60 degree V bit did a much, much better job than my old 60 degree V bit.
@IDCWoodcraft 7 ай бұрын
Rmg471, so glad to hear you sorted out your spindle problem and your bits cut great!
@Masis-dr5el 6 ай бұрын
So Sir, what is the fastest feed and speed software for cnc any cnc mashins, especially for woodcraft which has to be faster, but not for aluminum and hard materials we understand that has to be slow
@IDCWoodcraft 6 ай бұрын
Masis-dr5el, that is a tricky one and it really depends on your machine! If you have a more rigid machine with a high powered spindle, you can run it a lot faster! That is the key factor my friend!
@jeffreyschmiedeck4254 6 ай бұрын
Machinist for 43 years. I use 3.82 x the s.f.m and router bits are like end mills . That is .002 per tooth.
@IDCWoodcraft 6 ай бұрын
Jeffrey, thanks for sharing this brother!
@IDCWoodcraft 6 ай бұрын
JeffreySchmiedeck, good call brother! I like that.
@Sparky6547 Жыл бұрын
does the feed rate decrease if you are taking a full cut, say a profile cutout, verses taking a cut at 40% step over?
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Ed, that is a great question and yes you should! I would recommend reducing your feedrate in half if your stepover increases to a full cut like a profile cut and seeing how your machine can handle it. You are usually limited by the machine and not the bit!
@derekjenkinson8014 9 ай бұрын
How to determine DOC for the specified speed & feeds?
@IDCWoodcraft 8 ай бұрын
derekjenkinson8014, depths per pass are part of the feeds and speeds brother! It is all in the app for each bit too!
@panopticarts9907 4 ай бұрын
Hello, I downloaded the app and I like that all of the information is on there for me to dial in the correct settings in my machine. However, I do have a few bits I purchased on Amazon. I can't seem to find the correct bits I purchased there, so how do I go about getting the correct settings for these bits? Is there a way for me to find those bits in the app? Or do I have to recommend them to you via the app? Thanks so much! The app looks very helpful.
@IDCWoodcraft 4 ай бұрын
panopticarts9907, I am sorry brother but I only currently have IDC Woodcraft bits on the app. For the bits that you purchased off amazon, your best bet is to reach out to the manufacturer to get the right feeds and speeds for those bits brother!
@panopticarts9907 4 ай бұрын
@@IDCWoodcraft Thank you, I'll make sure to reach out to them or just test it out myself. Thanks again!
@tnyberg67 Жыл бұрын
I downloaded the app but wasn't able to find "Plywood" like Baltic Birch. How do feed rates for MDF compare to Plywood?
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Tim, I will tell my developer to have settings for plywood like Baltic Birch. In the mean time I recommend you use the "pine" setting, that will be your best bet!
@tnyberg67 Жыл бұрын
@@IDCWoodcraft Thank you. Loved the videos.. I sent you a whopper... LOL you'll know it when you get it.
@danbernskoetter 10 күн бұрын
Do you have instructions on how to use the app?
@danbernskoetter 10 күн бұрын
I figured it out. Thx
@IDCWoodcraft 10 күн бұрын
danbernskoetter, no problem brother!
@richardstevens5383 Жыл бұрын
I want to know where I can get the machine. An everything that I need.
@alpscraftshack599 Жыл бұрын
If you are talking about the CNC Machine, in the video, there is a link in the description box for it, along with links for bits, software, and other items you might need. You need to expand the description box to see the links.
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Richard, Alp is right you can find the link to the machine and everything down in the description box below. As for what you need when you get your longmill. I have a video about that too! Here is the link if you want to take a look: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rd9_Zcinr92vj40.html
@abhishek7271 4 ай бұрын
I am using mozaik software for cabinet making and I am from India, can I buy your bits with delivery in India ?
@IDCWoodcraft 4 ай бұрын
abhishek7271, I sure do brother! As for shipping costs, it really depends on where you're located. I recommend going into the IDC store, adding an item to your cart, and input your address when prompted. You will be able to view your specific shipping cost before you will need to pay for anything. That will be the most accurate! Keep in mind that you might also incur customs and duties fees when importing the bits into your country. I cant determine these fees on my end so its best you do your research if you are worried about it brother! Here's a link to the IDC store →idcwoodcraft.com/cnc-router-bits/
@simonchambers3900 4 ай бұрын
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@IDCWoodcraft 4 ай бұрын
simonchambers3900, hi brother! Happy to have you here.
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