CNN Host Cuts Trump Spokesperson's Mic, and New Kohberger Reporting, w/ Howard Blum & Erick Erickson

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5 күн бұрын

Megyn Kelly is joined by Howard Blum, author of "When the Night Comes Falling," to discuss new details about Idaho murders suspect Bryan Kohberger's conversations with his father on their cross-country road trip after the massacre, how his father may have suspected his son's involvement, new details about his behavior at Washington State University, whether Bryan Kohberger was casing the Idaho murder victims' house or having an internal conflict about it, Blum's reporting about who the target of the attack really was, the possibility Kohberger had seen the victim before, what the surviving roommate of the Idaho college murders Dylan Mortensen saw and texted with her other roommate at the time, theories on why she didn't call the police right away, Kohberger's older sister's suspicions of him, and more. Then Erick Erickson, author of "You Shall Be as Gods," joins to discuss how Biden and Trump are preparing for the important first debate on Thursday, whether Trump will be able to keep his composure, Trump's success in previous debate, the importance of creating a moment the audience will remember, CNN host Kasie Hunt cutting the mic of a Trump spokesperson who mildly criticized her colleagues, why debate moderators are subject to criticism, the left's instincts to silence those they disagree with, the lack of spirituality and faith in America and around the world, turning to government over religion, how to reverse the negative trends, and more.
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@MegynKelly 3 күн бұрын

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@beeveedee9355 2 күн бұрын

AOC's voice is like fingernails on a blackboard to me.

@daniellebranham8773 2 күн бұрын

AOC is cringy

@20Jandy10 2 күн бұрын

I agree

@user-yo7jp2oh9c 3 күн бұрын

I did not think that CNN could ever stoop any lower than they were, but Damn I was wrong

@ninaalmark7584 2 күн бұрын

They might step even lower, just you wait. Who knows hiw they are going to fiddle with the upcoming presidential debate. There is going to be only 4 people in the studio, the candidates and the moderators, so who's gonna know what they are cutting and blocking

@Kwesekara1672 Күн бұрын

Corporate owned.

@johnadams5489 2 күн бұрын

Senator Kennedy was right when he told AOC that she wasn't smart enough to be in Congress. The reason she ran for Congress was because she was a lousy bar tender. The Left hit rock bottom electing AOC.

@PC-Phobic-Jean-Rene Күн бұрын

Not heard to believe, watching her jump-around stage like a court-jester! --- What a wicked clown!

@sherryluxedreamtravels7966 2 күн бұрын

Stop giving the view any press coverage...they obviously undeservedly thrive on it. 😢 I do not watch that view and am tired of their commentary being given air time.

@MrRoflfrost 2 күн бұрын

💯

@PC-Phobic-Jean-Rene Күн бұрын

The Left-View: radical panel of bitter-harpy _"yentas",_ as Mark Levin calls them.

@xXxXxCGPBxXxXx 3 күн бұрын

AOC … a ‘congressional Kardashian’ Megyn you are on FIRE 🔥 today! Love it!

@xXxXxCGPBxXxXx 3 күн бұрын

I’m so glad you called out that CNN WALLFLOWER who presented as bad as she appears… it was unbelievable, she’s out of her league and that was so obvious… a total DISASTER!!!

@kath00925 3 күн бұрын

OMG! AOC acts like a big kid. That was so embarrassing and unprofessional ! She needs to prepare for a big LOSS !

@hleedina5567 3 күн бұрын

She behaves like she takes cocaine...I worked with people like that

@user-ht2yo5li9z 3 күн бұрын

AOC is not all there

@michaelcooley4553 2 күн бұрын

At least in the Congress the idiot can't mess up any more drink orders.

@markmaki4460 2 күн бұрын

I am almost embarrassed for that silly girl. I feel sorry for her constituents who didn't vote for her.

@sumisumi-by8xv 2 күн бұрын

What an embarrassment, ppl voting for these "politicians" who actually want to destroy the country and turning it to the same country they run away from. Well... keep on voting for them, you'll get what you wish for

@hubrisnaut 3 күн бұрын

I am telling you, one of the most intense things a dear friend, a man made of raw nails, has ever said to me, grabbing me by the shirt and staring me down in my eyes, was, "don't be a victim". We were very close and I know he felt like he was saying something to save my life. He was from Gary, Indiana and saw murders from stabbings and guns...Be on guard with everyone, and have the instincts to get away, It can be so quick

@Rich32262 2 күн бұрын

Please Megyn, don't show clips from the view or AOC. They're all simpletons.

@loriearley3457 2 күн бұрын

Man the anchors voice was so shaken. She is in the wrong business.

@hb-hr1nh 3 күн бұрын

Its more like a Trump vs Jake Tapper and CNN debate.

@user-ht2yo5li9z 3 күн бұрын

Truth

@amylynnhunt55 2 күн бұрын

There is never "closure" when the person you love more than words is taken this way. It affects the way we grieve. People say stupid, thoughtless things like "and her murderer". I lost two best friends. I will never pretend to know exactly how their parents feel. Please remember these families respectfully. 💜

@HamsaLarsen 2 күн бұрын

I don't think this author should have come out with this book full of conjecture, creating a story that does not contain all the details and facts (how could he?) before the trial? Isn't this poisoning the jury? Afterall, our justice system is innocent until proven guilty? Let the prosecutors prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt first, then write a book and get a big payday. I won't buy this book. Not that I'm on that young man's side by any means, just find it odd to write a book based on conjecture to grift for $$$

@marktwain580 2 күн бұрын

Probably has bills to pay.

@jill7759 2 күн бұрын

I’m not sure how you would think such a book detailing the known facts and making some conjectures that anyone could make would poison the jury. This information isn’t a secret, any person who is interested could access nearly all of it barring perhaps some results of interviews with his own sources but irrespective of that if there is interest or curiosity none of it is secret and if a person is going to conjecture or make guesses they’re going to do that. It’s interesting to see the facts laid out, it will be interesting to see how that stacks up against what will be said at trial and how the defense or the prosecution will deal with some of the questions which those facts raise but he hasn’t disclosed anything much that isn’t public knowledge already.

@SummerGirl19 2 күн бұрын

100%!!!! He has written an account based on some known facts…the rest is creative licensing. I hope that he is sued for libel, as is anyone features him on to promote this work of fiction

@LouiseLLee 2 күн бұрын

I had to fast forward past this guy. Couldn’t understand why he makes a big deal of a 68 year old driving that far. My dad in his 70’s would drive to Texas from Michigan.

@jill7759 2 күн бұрын

@@LouiseLLee My Dad was still driving in his eighties and at that age was driving back and forth from Canada to Florida.

@freddiecarr7602 3 күн бұрын

Why isnt Biden talking about Kenya? Maybe because Hunter has no kickbacks from there

@PC-Phobic-Jean-Rene Күн бұрын

Obama, his puppet-master is a Kenyan.

@musa7606 2 күн бұрын

I stopped watching when I heard Erickson's gross comments about Alex Jones today. He's no better than CNN.

@brianmccormick8328 3 күн бұрын

That awkward moment when you try to shut someone down (like cnn, for example) and amplify the point by 1000.

@haileysmom2358 2 күн бұрын

The Streisand effect

@danielschleier3087 Күн бұрын

The Streisand Effect

@JamesChidester-yk8rk 3 күн бұрын

I just don’t see how one person can due that much damage to four people in separate rooms in 8 minutes. Someone has the time line wrong

@EternityCorsets 2 күн бұрын

Rage mental illness and feels immortal slashed with impotence of mental development; spin of the devil.😢

@Think-dont-believe 2 күн бұрын

That's the reason he could.... they never had time to process what was happening.. then he got lucky on the 1st strike on the guy took him out instantly... we have all done the loud whisper., go to door look out "Hey what's going on u Guys Ok?" B4 that u r thinking or saying .. dog, drunk/drinking people, food delivery, ex boyfriends, booty😅 calls,girl drama.... ? I donno go c.. he wldnt of grabbed a bat...... you hear that... are they fighting ... who ...I donno ... go check .. ok .. I will ...

@goodvibes6838 Күн бұрын

I think Howard Blum is full of crap. Where’s the evidence? Is Megan following this case at all??????

@denisegilchrist7822 2 күн бұрын

This was a preview of what they plan to do to Trump-just cut him off or shout over his comments

@HamsaLarsen 2 күн бұрын

Right? I say the moderators mics need to be muted too when the candidates are speaking so as not to interrupt and bully Trump, or help guide Biden and coach him into the answer they are expecting. If candidates mics are muted so too should be the mods.

@Mr.W2024 3 күн бұрын

Can’t believe they will actually let Biden talk! This is going to be a hoot!!!

@kath00925 3 күн бұрын

I actually hope it is. People need to wake up.

@Catmac2000 2 күн бұрын

🤣Weekend at Bidens….. how they going to pull this off

@Mr.W2024 2 күн бұрын

@@Catmac2000 😂😂 Is perfect description

@sammyo2583 2 күн бұрын

@@Catmac2000with a cocktail of drugs

@MrDeepseadweller 2 күн бұрын

He’ll be so pumped full of drugs, I hope they keep the sniffer dogs away from him.

@kimberlyj3221 3 күн бұрын

LOL….your Valley Girl accent has me crying 🤣🤣. I love it🙌🙌. Missed you mk.. Great guests!!!!!

2 күн бұрын

Trump will be hurt by the muted mics, as well. You're not thinking about who is running the show, CNN. If/when Trump decides to interrupt, CNN will have his mic muted, but show him on split screen, Biden on the left talking, and Trump on the right, talking but not being heard. Every time Trump is essentially pantomiming, a new meme will be born. He's need to keep himself grounded.

@donness7295 23 сағат бұрын

President Trump is pretty sharp and he knows what CNN and Crooked Joe are up to! This may be an Academy Performance by President Trump!

@Kristin465 2 күн бұрын

Such a good episode. I love when you feature true crime. I just got the book.

@Unchristian 2 күн бұрын

Sounds like a fantastical story with little actual evidence

@stjoelawyer 3 күн бұрын

you should’ve broke this into two podcasts and interview each gentleman a little little bit longer and have two fifty five minutes to sixty minute podcasts.

@cdfatlanta9841 2 күн бұрын

A full show with each of these guests would be great!

@brianbard3410 2 күн бұрын

The dad knew that phyco Brian was the killer , but was he hoping that the authorities were not going to be able to peg Brian with the murders. So was he deciding on keeping it under wraps. Or struggling with his conscious on turning his son in.

@GenXgirl969 2 күн бұрын

Megyn is ridiculous, how can she pretend that this is a real “debate.” There is NO audience, mic cuts-NO back & forth, opponent banter and 2 hostile earpiece wearing moderators, who hate and are against Trump. What could possibly go wrong.

@sammyo2583 2 күн бұрын

She never said it would be a fair debate

@avengemybreath3084 3 күн бұрын

I can’t wait to see Biden do an hour interview alone, perhaps on the All-In podcast. Or any other outlet that isn’t a cheerleader for the Dems.

@bonez270 2 күн бұрын

I find it rich that Megyn cries about Trump interrupting when she literally interrupts every single guest on her show.

@narmrn 2 күн бұрын

I just downloaded the Blum book on Audible. Thankyou for this outstanding author interview.

@jeffbentley8551 2 күн бұрын

There is no such thing as closure on something like this.

@Cyberdactyl 2 күн бұрын

Eric looks like an overweight 55 year old William Shatner.

@user-ht2yo5li9z 3 күн бұрын

Love it a congressional Kardashian😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@brianbard3410 2 күн бұрын

Basically the father knew that the son most definitely carved up these youngsters

@gregdouglas5405 3 күн бұрын

Balloon release is not a good idea.And lm not a tree hugger.

@gailmarie4039 2 күн бұрын

STOP RELEASING BALLOONS! They end up in our oceans and kill our ocean life. Please!

@AndraMikkelsen 3 күн бұрын

How awful to hear that a book has been written about murder and your child was one of the victims.

@denisedwyer4929 3 күн бұрын

Why awful?

@jill7759 2 күн бұрын

I have every sympathy for those parents but I’m afraid this was an inevitability for such a sensational crime and this book won’t be the last by any means.

@AndraMikkelsen 2 күн бұрын

@@jill7759 : Yes, no doubt there'll be more books written about this terrible case. No-one imagines that their own loved one/s could end up being the subject/s of true crime writings. Very heart-breaking for these families.

@EternityCorsets 2 күн бұрын

Great interview.

@TheHouseboat1 2 күн бұрын

I want to preface this with my daughter was murdered too and we had a balloon release. Balloons kill cattle , horses fish, foul, and pets, they think it is food or a toy they eat it.

@la.comtesse.de.vermont 2 күн бұрын

AOC--what unbecoming behavior for an elected official. Pathetic and sad.

@captainnathan3690 2 күн бұрын

I don’t see it as “revenge” when we expect our public officials to do their jobs as defined under the law when ANYONE is committing crimes. Dammit, just start by fixing the broken windows. Stop looking ridiculous by pandering to the ridiculous, especially when you know it’s killing us. IOW’s WAKE UP!!!!!

@dianejohnson7212 3 күн бұрын

I think Trump shouldn’t slam Biden because that may cause sympathy votes. For me I don’t care what Trump says I will vote for him

@dulcehajjar5826 2 күн бұрын

Agree, and hope Trump no slam Biden, that is no need for that, some people will feel sympathy for him !

@eljaymcafee3455 2 күн бұрын

I thought it she was a C.Hunt and now I know she is a K.Hunt. Either way I say name appropriate.

@robinmackey4102 2 күн бұрын

Could the girl who was the original target have had some kind of connection with Kohlberger’s T.A. problems?

@jacquescousteau217 3 күн бұрын

I grieve for the parents,family,and close friends. I also grieve for the suspects father, and family, one thing is clear. The father loved his son. This is a Shakespearean tragedy of epic proportions. So many families are now destroyed to a degree I can’t imagine. Ironically a close friend of mine - that went to Syracuse University at same time as my sister - was a PhD teaching at the university in Moscow, Idaho. Sadly he passed away ten years ago hence I never had the opportunity to ask him what he thought of this tragedy, and if he ever met this man ie. Suspect …

@frosting6 2 күн бұрын

But Brian Kohlberger was at the university over in Washington, not Idaho.

@jacquescousteau217 18 сағат бұрын

@@frosting6 you’re right. Don’t know what I was thinking . Moscow definitely in Washington. My bad …

@IwasInverted 2 күн бұрын

I love the show but in the summer, the quality of it drops off quite a bit. This episode was meh.

@soldierx2 2 күн бұрын

Opinion: just because a boy is different, doesn't mean he's a monster. You people love to throw stones and cast out the same kind of people you glorify and watch shows about on Netflix.

@ahavens2463 2 күн бұрын

Legitimate question...how does this author know what Melissa stated to her father or what she was thinking? Did she reveal that publicity?

@jacksoncothren5831 2 күн бұрын

I don't buy that frozen with fear nonsense. Without checking on anything, she laid her head down and went to sleep. However, the biggest conflict to me is that if the situation was so terrifying as to freeze her in place then she should have just as equally been spurred into action once the perpetrator had left.

@kimmie2711 2 күн бұрын

Ugh, she's still saying Kole-berger. There's no L, please someone tell her! You can't cover a story for two years and still mispronounce the name. Just saying

@kellyandjulieelander5523 2 күн бұрын

Ikr? How is it even possible?

@avaluna826 2 күн бұрын

obviously, that's not true because here we are.

@inspjz Күн бұрын

Love you and all your staff for all the important information you convey.

@SubFlow22 2 күн бұрын

lost me at, "they're friends of mine actually"

@SheilaSmith-z8g 2 күн бұрын

It's a head scratcher that any American needs to see a debate to decide how they will vote. The reality of life the last 4 years should be enough.

@jill7759 2 күн бұрын

Not sure that’s the case, which isn’t to say people aren’t interested, but historically these debates haven’t really moved the needle much one way or the other.

@SheilaSmith-z8g 2 күн бұрын

@@jill7759 Jill, what I wrote is the reason given by people who plan to watch a debate. No, debates don't influence voting, I agree with you.

@ahavens2463 2 күн бұрын

There really did appear to be so much rage in the Idaho murders that it is scary and daunting to think whoever did it could walk free. The murderer is clearly a psycho. How does this Taylor lawyer woman sleep at night if she thinks he's guilty and is trying all kinds of tricks to get BK off.

@brianbard3410 2 күн бұрын

No previous interactions, no sexual intentions or sexual evidence of any other kind None of these girls rebuked him or even met him.

@timcollins6177 2 күн бұрын

35:51 Totally agree with Howard on the inexactitude of the coroner’s use of language. However . . . I don’t think that “screw-up” is insurmountable, because it will be the medical examiner, not the coroner, whose specific information on the nature of the wounds will be much more exacting and precise and will be presented in detail on the stand in court.

@elishevaborenson4609 2 күн бұрын

Nothing like common sense Megyn and Eric.

@chrisreeves9764 2 күн бұрын

I'm English and remember watching American news in the early 90s. At that time I remember finding it amusing that religion was front and centre in nearly everything. I've since regained my faith and when I reconnected with American media, not just the news in the last 8 years or so I was shocked that the US seems to have totally lost its spiritual underpinning. I can't help but feel your country's slide where by nearly every metric you are failing is linked to the loss of faith. I sense in the UK and US people are reconnecting to what's important in life and that will save us.

@lukasstronghood2692 2 күн бұрын

today it is not "Grace before meals".... now it is "Selfie before meals". .

@JerryBagus-ul4pj 3 күн бұрын

What a crock. You're welcome back as long as you toe the line

@gigicooper1759 2 күн бұрын

Brilliant conclusion…Erick-Totally true!

@williammontgomery2942 3 күн бұрын

Please let your guests speak. We know your positions.

@jom5745 2 күн бұрын

Much of Blum's book seems to be based on opinion not fact.

@gsbguitarsgsb679 2 күн бұрын

Megan’s sassy sass gets me every time, lol… 👍❤️🗽

@davidhoffman1616 3 күн бұрын

Has soon has Erick said they are friends of mine………I’m out, nothing ever changes!!!

@dougcorcoran5455 2 күн бұрын

I think Blum makes the story up.

@hunterflan8428 3 күн бұрын

Interesting guest, love his take on society at the moment.

@dianejohnson7212 2 күн бұрын

I love that Erick said it should have been in German

@pamelaann3690 2 күн бұрын

"Where's the smelling salts, where's my fainting couch!" 😂😂😂 LMAO 1:07:48

@timcollins6177 2 күн бұрын

49:08 I’ve been critical at points of Mr. Blum’s observations here, but wanted to say that overall I think he’s on the right track, and that I enjoy the elevated literary style and purpose in his writing, as I’ve been following his series of Air Mail articles-and I wish him well with the book, which I just purchased as an e-book from Barnes & Noble. I also wanted to commend to Megyn’s followers the great work of host Daniel at ‘The Drunken Turkey Show’ KZfaq channel, on which Howard recently appeared. Both these guys are all over this case in a serious way, and I appreciate them both!

@Jabo__Jabo 3 күн бұрын

Wow. Well the father of Bryan should have come forward. Omg.

@karyntownsend 2 күн бұрын

My GOD,do you really believe in this BS,when there's a GAG- order.... Howard,NEVER spoke to Bryan's,dad Michael Kohberger.... This is FICTION.... But I do hope that Michael Kohberger sues the living 💩 outta both of these two money grabbing,idiots to Megyn and Howard..... Tomorrow at 10 am local time there's a hearing in Moscow,live from Judge John Judge's KZfaq channel.....

@528sasseycassey 2 күн бұрын

I'm excited for Grumpy Old Men 3, too!! 😂😂😂 It's better than any Kardashian show! 🙈

@cdfatlanta9841 2 күн бұрын

Great show! Love to see you & Erick together.

@CaliforniaForever 3 күн бұрын

KOH-berger. It’s time to pronounce it correctly.

@kellyandjulieelander5523 2 күн бұрын

Yes, please. Love Megyn, but it's so grating.

@Mandy-ij3ss 3 күн бұрын

A great episode, once again. Thanks Megyn!

@MarleneMeier 2 күн бұрын

OMG this was unbelievable! 😮😮😮

@kevingreen3195 2 күн бұрын

1:26:55 Saying Grace. I'm so glad to hear you say that. My wife, two kids, and I say Grace where ever we are having a meal: vacay, McD, Chinese restaurants, anywhere. We've been saying Grace like this for so long that my girls see it as normal. Although it does seem like their Sign of the Cross is at 2X speed, but that's okay. Other than giving thanks I would like to see others - especially Catholics - express their faith proudly and openly.

@paulpilgrim4302 2 күн бұрын

When offering her a 'your welcome to back' She should have said ..with that attitude...no thank you

@downieduck2414 2 күн бұрын

i can relate to the father when you have a adult child who is very alone but as well successful

@stevenvacanti2676 3 күн бұрын

don't worry, I hit the like button twice 👍

@carlbrucefroehlich3986 3 күн бұрын

Was Erick Erickson's father named Erick too?

@MeganDelacroix 3 күн бұрын

Appropriately, an E-tier guest.

@Ccrippie 3 күн бұрын

A K-Bar knife, which was used, has a knife edge on one side & a jagged edge on the back side. Could cause all injuries

@SubFlow22 2 күн бұрын

Cut-the-Feed News Network

@timcollins6177 2 күн бұрын

36:28 Where are the defensive wounds on Bryan Kohberger? Well, there was a period of about a month-and-a-half for any such wounds to heal . . . plus, it looks very likely that Kohberger wore gloves and may also have been wearing a coverall garment specifically aimed at keeping biological evidence from being exchanged between him and the victims; a return from the search warrant for his apartment showed a tag or receipt for a Dickies item, which may get further elucidation at trial.

@lorinelson6857 2 күн бұрын

GREAT PROGRAM!

@cyn7869 2 күн бұрын

These people raised cowards. They weren’t taught to do the right thing, no matter how difficult. They were raised to “not get involved”. Sad.

@brianbard3410 2 күн бұрын

Be clowend Scarborough fitting for the Kazoo man.

@HolidayHouzCollective 2 күн бұрын

Omg that AOC clip… is soooooooo rough 🤣😭🫣

@DesertScorpionKSA 2 күн бұрын

Trump should plant a sandbag on the stage near Biden's podium.

@ashleygonzalez32171 Күн бұрын

😂😂😂 👏🏻👍🏻

@Sunny_NYC_2024 2 күн бұрын

Good Work!

@johnadams5489 2 күн бұрын

I didn’t realize that Kohberger left before he received his termation letter from university. I was also not aware that in addition to his sister suspicious of Brian committing the murders, his father was too. Last year I read that Brian had tried to contact Mattee on Social Media, but she did not respond. He could have also went to the vegan restaurant she had worked, but I don’t know that he did or not. Apparently, Brian went to the house to murder Mattee and ended up killing 4 innocent people. When Brian was arrested, he asked the Police if anyone else was arrested, that could mean he was throwing the police a curve ball or he had an accomplice. One issue in this case was that when Brian had a hearing after his arrest, when he walked into the court room, his mother burst into tears when she saw her son in prison clothes. 😮‍💨

@ahavens2463 2 күн бұрын

And yet BK showed no emotion at his mother being so grieved. That's crazy. BK does seem off, guilt or no guilt, remain to be seen I guess.

@KM-fe1eu 2 күн бұрын

“Her weird little khaki shorts “ 🤣🤣 💀

@cfluff6716 2 күн бұрын

“For the many, Not the money” is HYSTERICAL… def not for the many or money to all those in her district she screwed out of a good paying job with Amazon not to mention the overall local economic benefit

@aikoerin6353 3 күн бұрын

TRUMP2024🇺🇸🦾

@marilynmcdonough3839 2 күн бұрын

When my daughters went to college, I guess they were sheltered. They thought the best of everyone. I would caution about safety measures and they were credulous. Thought I was paranoid and being a “mother”. The girls probably felt everyone was like them. Call the police on someone in their house, a friend.

@GaryLabandter 3 күн бұрын

What a beautiful woman, thx Megyn!

@Brandtfer12 2 күн бұрын

Great show !

@timcollins6177 2 күн бұрын

35:11 I think we should probably rely less on the coroner’s descriptions or characterizations than we do the medical examiner’s careful documentation of the exact nature of the wounds inflicted on the victims-which we have not yet seen, and probably won’t see until trial. I don’t think your interpretation, Megyn, that the assailant slit Xana’s throat because her wounds were characterized as being “caused by an edged weapon” is necessarily one that is justified by the language of the coroner’s report. It is reading between the lines, probably, but I would more readily conclude this describes the *serration* of the blade of the murder weapon being evident on the wound, whatever or wherever it was. I’m not sure where Blum is getting the information that the blade pierced Xana’s hand held up in defense, but there was information from the coroner that some of the victims showed defensive wounds. We would expect Xana and Kaylee to evidence them, but I think there may be questions about how Maddie and Ethan may not have been able to defend themselves in the same way. The coroner does say that some of the victims were killed in their sleep; and I think the whole logistical picture of the commission of the crimes would support Maddie being attacked without her being awake at the time. With Ethan, there appears to be more to learn, because it appears that he may have bled out on the bed, and that it may have been his blood that pooled and dripped onto the exterior cement wall.