The campus police officer saving her nudes and showing them to others… that is BEYOND disgusting. He needs to be charged if he hasn’t already. 😡
@csvega Жыл бұрын
ACAB
@lunatic5162 Жыл бұрын
He definitely wasn't charged
@shannonigans2220 Жыл бұрын
Yes, that’s beyond sick. He could save millions of nude photos online but chose to keep photos of a dead woman?
@raskarl Жыл бұрын
yikes that is just so wrong!
@DJVIIIMan Жыл бұрын
@shannonigans2220 : You'd be amazed at how many weirdos end up as campus security officers at universities.
@moriane. Жыл бұрын
I'm not even halfway through, but I had to stop and wonder why the hell someone would be eligible for parole after only serving one year for those charges. That's absurd.
@dartdude4084 Жыл бұрын
Liberals
@tessaducek5601 Жыл бұрын
John Wayne Gacy only served eighteen months of a ten year sentence. 🤷
@Noticerofthings Жыл бұрын
They are a protected class
@Kstang09 Жыл бұрын
@dartdude4084 lol, nice try puddin' ron.
@myhealthbarx3894 Жыл бұрын
That’s the justice system. It’s a joke .
@ciaochowbella11 ай бұрын
In the US, stalkers are pretty much allowed to do as they please even though they've passed specific stalking laws. I was stalked for 22 yr by a dude I dated for one month. He only quit stalking me when he drowned in the river while fishing. The police knew the whole time. I reported him at least 100 times to various law enforcement agencies. I had him beaten up three times. I had him snatched up and dumped outside OKC in December. I had pulled knives on him and twice sicced my Doberman on him. I was not easy to harass, but he kept on until the Ouachita River took care of him for me. I have never been so glad when someone died.
@user-mn6sq3is4t4 ай бұрын
Very sad you had to go through this love from India😢😢😢😢😢
@origamipein18Ай бұрын
🫂
@chanetra09184 күн бұрын
Ding dong!
@someoneout-there2165 Жыл бұрын
Another officer said he was lucky he got that case because he was able to get nude pics of her?! What a sick, sick world. 🤮
@omglol9571 Жыл бұрын
🤡🤡right
@toddrichardson8595 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's flat out disgusting.
@terraleanna4637 Жыл бұрын
Sick creeps
@berylmoigepoolmistress Жыл бұрын
What! This is terrible
@basicsimp8798 Жыл бұрын
Men am I right?
@TheDiamondRoseShow Жыл бұрын
Lauren and I were friends and she was actually was a student in one of the buildings I supervised. I urged the university housing to change her rooms one I found out she was dating a shady man but the university closed ranks and said "unless she comes to us for help we can't do anything." BUT SHE LITERALLY HAD. They just didn't communicate it across the board. The University of Utah is a horrible university.
@kl4581 Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry 😞
@sharonpolome3033 Жыл бұрын
University of Utah -- the very WORST. Too bad she chose to go to school; she'd very likely still be alive had she gone anyplace else. At least she wouldn't have met "Sean/Melvin" anyplace else. Talk about LUCKLESS choices.
@maschaorsomething Жыл бұрын
@@sharonpolome3033 You almost make it sound like it was her fault.
@carlambeauty Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry
@mattbarker1411 Жыл бұрын
@@maschaorsomethingfalse.
@lauravalle3766 Жыл бұрын
Omfg. This was beyond maddening. Everyone failed her. Even her parents. If I found out my child was dating a convicted felon and sex offender, I would have taken her to campus, retrieved the car, filed a report, got a restraining order, called his parole officer, stayed in town. I mean. Why is everyone expecting her to take care of this?! It’s like asking a lamb to fight a lion. How horrific.
@midwesthorrorfan5213 Жыл бұрын
Even her dad downplayed it. No wonder they didn't rush to her when he basically said she wasn't really being harassed.
@MattCarvin Жыл бұрын
Ya exactly, dad calls the police after all that, and after his daughter gets kidnapped on the phone- “ya, some of the kid’s friends have been harassing her a little bit…” Thanks dad, I wonder if police would have turned up a little quicker if you hadn’t sucked so much. Probably not, considering how much they sucked too. This case highlights yet another way modern college & universities are failing our kids right in front of us (as if we need more)- it’s no secret that the big difference between a school campus security gig and work as a mall cop is job security. Malls are all closing/downsizing while colleges are notorious havens for deadwood that only get more expensive to attend each year. Case in point, the creeps who kept Lauren’s nudes (and we just never hear anything more about? Wha??). You get what you pay for. Unless you happen to be the one paying to go to college, of course.
@maschaorsomething Жыл бұрын
Her parents and friends absolutely failed her.
@RolyatArik Жыл бұрын
@@midwesthorrorfan5213 Exactly. Her dad gave the ex's fake name "Sean Fields" to the police officer. How do you not know his real name from your daughter at this point, after he's been harassing her this whole time? Also calls the ex "a boy" to the police. He's a 38 year old sex offender, not a boy. When officer asks "has he been making any threats", dad says "his friends have been harassing her A LITTLE BIT". So weird how he was downplaying every aspect of this.
@amandasullivan1121 Жыл бұрын
@RolyatArik absolutely. When he said that I literally screamed "BOY!? He is a whole a$$ dangerous MAN" like wtf Dad!? 😳
@lozzimusprime Жыл бұрын
This made my blood boil. Stalking is not taken seriously enough. Poor Lauren had such a bright life ahead of her and Melvin robbed the world of a unique, bright and strong woman.
@craigoliver871211 ай бұрын
Totally agree 12 national records still standing is some going+mighty impressive such a tragedy, she'll be Heavens champion now-bless her 🙏
@needtoknowbasis349910 ай бұрын
What about the rest of us who are not track stars? Are we more deserving of murder?
@siennaioana676310 ай бұрын
Poor girl she was so naive 😭. She has got into this herself.
@KINGAMIIAMKING10 ай бұрын
@@siennaioana6763🤡
@SH-os1ck9 ай бұрын
This was sad. Failed for sure but police.
@otaniatsushi99911 ай бұрын
This story is actually heartbreaking. So many people failed Lauren. Very scary to know she reached out for help so many times with evidence of crimes and it all went basically ignored.
@StevenMarx-vg6nb7 ай бұрын
She failed herself. Choices.
@joec49977 ай бұрын
she failed herself with her choice in "men"
@scarletrose63566 ай бұрын
@@joec4997she definitely did not! What the actual fuck are you on ?? Him being a psychopath and manipulator is not her fault. He lied to her and she put trust in him. I can’t believe people.
@touringthecitywalking92096 ай бұрын
It's a great tragedy what happened to her; however, if she had provided all the information to the people she contacted about the guy-such as his real name, his age, and his criminal background-the results would definitely have been different. Instead, she only shared common and brief information, so the officials didn't grasp the full magnitude of the matter. If she had disclosed all the information she found on the Internet, the listeners would have taken the matter very seriously and most probably contacted his parole officer. I don't know if she discussed all this information with her parents or not, but if she did, then the parents also should have informed the police of all these details, which would have yielded totally different results. People need to step out of their comfort zones and share all they know instead of talking in bits and pieces.
@touringthecitywalking92096 ай бұрын
@@scarletrose6356 It's a great tragedy what happened to her; however, if she had provided all the information to the people she contacted about the guy-such as his real name, his age, and his criminal background-the results would definitely have been different. Instead, she only shared common and brief information, so the officials didn't grasp the full magnitude of the matter. If she had disclosed all the information she found on the Internet, the listeners would have taken the matter very seriously and most probably contacted his parole officer. I don't know if she discussed all this information with her parents or not, but if she did, then the parents also should have informed the police of all these details, which would have yielded totally different results. People need to step out of their comfort zones and share all they know instead of talking in bits and pieces.
@JamesThomasJeans Жыл бұрын
The officer who kept her nude photos and shared them around should lose their job, and be forced to register as a sex offender themselves.
@mugiwarabon3374 Жыл бұрын
I live in the area. He was fired from his job, tried to get another job in law enforcement in a different city, was fired from that one the moment they realized who he was, and has since been shamed and bared from any other law enforcement type jobs. Essentially his whole career was ruined.
@cookiesnmilk9200 Жыл бұрын
thank goodness @@mugiwarabon3374
@MsMedford Жыл бұрын
@@mugiwarabon3374what's his full name
@yzettasmith4194 Жыл бұрын
@@mugiwarabon3374 Good. Thank you for telling us this. :)
@Kikan319 Жыл бұрын
@@mugiwarabon3374 When I first heard that he was barred I was honestly shocked that Utah was capable of doing something right for once.
@GQPikachu Жыл бұрын
As someone who has worked at a university for a while, after a few calls like that, everyone in the office ends up becoming familiar with the student and their situation. I imagine there were more calls than what was presented here. The fact that everytime her or her parents called, they had to reiterate the contex and seemingly had no idea about the situation is shocking. At that point, once she says her name, they should know the deal. She should have had a reliable person to contact who was keeping up with the situation, but they dropped the ball there. It is a tragedy seeing how many points in time this could have been prevented.
@irena4545 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was extremely frustrating... the way they responded to the first call and sent someone with her to pick up the car, I thought that still looked ok, but how the heck did they miss the part about "sexual offender is harrassing our daughter"?! Not just some teen with no criminal record but an adult man, fully capable of violence towards women. How does one underestimate something like that?
@GQPikachu Жыл бұрын
@irena4545 yeah, the escalation should've set off alarms for the campus police. It seems they didn't even look into his background, because any competent agency would've seen his history and been all over this case.
@ashley_9286_ Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment! Most ppl do not want to shine a light on areas that they were personally involved in. I think that in this case, the fault lies with everyone involved, including Lauren. I am not victim blaming at all. But as a now 36 year old female, that has also dealt with a terrible share of abuse and horror from a partner as a teen, it's difficult not to react. Even as a teen, I knew what was happening was awful and I deserved better and needed to get away, I was still in somewhat of a denial and had hope. I blame myself just as I blame the other person in my situation
@bigri8032 Жыл бұрын
It's criminally negligent resulting in a preventable death. The officers and security involved need to be judged and made an example of
@GQPikachu Жыл бұрын
@@ashley_9286_ I tend to agree. I agree everyone is responsible for their own lives and the people they choose to include. I can't comment on abuse, but I am sorry that you went through that. From my perspective, she did realize it wasn't a healthy relationship, though maybe later than she should have. She knew she needed help and she asked for it, yet there were a lot of mis-steps on the part of authorities that could have otherwise prevented the outcome. Do you see the situation differently based on your experience?
@chefboyardeesnuts277 Жыл бұрын
Man, the way Lauren’s situation unfolded is painful to hear. The year after I left the school, this murder happened. My Friends were in Lauren’s social sphere and had intimate knowledge of the situation. I was upset to discover that college staff and SLC police did not handle the case well, and it took years for Utah to “admit” to the mishandling of the case. Lauren’s mom advocated, publicly and legally, for years for justice. If any lesson could be taken away, it’s that reporting works when the reporting system takes your case seriously.
@cathybassett64328 ай бұрын
How do we know "that reporting works when the reporting system takes you seriously." They didn't and she was murdered. What example can you provide the system works?
@basicsimp8798 Жыл бұрын
She literally gave so much evidence but they chose to ignore it and took their sweet time. Disgusting.
@touringthecitywalking92096 ай бұрын
It's a great tragedy what happened to her; however, if she had provided all the information to the people she contacted about the guy-such as his real name, his age, and his criminal background-the results would definitely have been different. Instead, she only shared common and brief information, so the officials didn't grasp the full magnitude of the matter. If she had disclosed all the information she found on the Internet, the listeners would have taken the matter very seriously and most probably contacted his parole officer. I don't know if she discussed all this information with her parents or not, but if she did, then the parents also should have informed the police of all these details, which would have yielded totally different results. People need to step out of their comfort zones and share all they know instead of talking in bits and pieces.
@travellpc191 Жыл бұрын
I had an aggressive stalker, called the police, and they told me to just buy a gun. They told me that police can’t do anything until AFTER he gets violent. I hired an attorney who sent the stalker a cease and desist. The police were zero help.
@kimmuckenfuss2284 Жыл бұрын
That is, unfortunately, sad & true. I was in the same situation before & my attorney told me to buy cans of that wasp spray (it shoots a powerful stream...more powerful than pepper sprays) & keep a can by each of my doors @ my home & that if you hit them in the face with it, it will temporarily mess up their vision pretty good...among other things! When my stalker showed up @ my new address (in a different town, also), I called police & told them I'd had 2 previous restraining orders on my ex & that if my ex showed up again that he'd get a face full of wasp spray. The dispatch woman told me I 'could probably be arrested' if I did that. I told her, 'lady, I'll take my chances.' It is god-awful how police are so aware of the rights of criminals, but NOT of the rights of victims.
@auntielaura5 Жыл бұрын
Sadly, there isn’t much they can do, which makes me think police involvement might not have changed this situation at all. It is really punishing the victim (which I hate!), but her best option was probably to change her school. 😔
@deedle6073 Жыл бұрын
Did you buy a gun?
@kimmuckenfuss2284 Жыл бұрын
@@deedle6073 yes, I finally bought a gun for sure.
@v0VeNoM0v Жыл бұрын
The reality is though, if he twisted enough to attack you, then a gun would have been the best option.
@river9994 Жыл бұрын
Why are they referring to him as a boy, that just makes him sound misunderstood. He is a narcistic, evil, dangerous man who is on the sex offender register. This whole terrible incident never needed to happen if just one person stood up to help her. I am so very sorry Lauren.
@v0VeNoM0v Жыл бұрын
It's infuriating hearing them call some jacked up 37 year old murderer a 'boy'.
@yasminxx9329 Жыл бұрын
society loves to shift of resppnsibility off men by calling them boys. "thats not a man thats a boy" whenever a man does sth wrong. No hes a man. end of story
@nekonomicon2983 Жыл бұрын
To be fair he doesn't even have the right to be called a man. A real man does not purposefully hurt the woman he allegedly cares for. No he is no man. He is a monster
@fanban2926 Жыл бұрын
@@yendevus1747huh???
@roningarcia5771 Жыл бұрын
He has B privilege.
@Truffle_Pup Жыл бұрын
This is one of the most upsetting stories you have covered yet. That poor poor girl. My heart goes out to her family and friends.
@RolandBullock-ej8wl Жыл бұрын
this was so preventable, Law-enforcement continually drops the ball on these cases acting like these terrified women calling their stations for help are not a big deal! People should be fired!
@willfanofmanyii3751 Жыл бұрын
@@RolandBullock-ej8wl They can't do anything without actual information, a simple "The guy bothering me is a sex offender with a false identity" would have helped.
@Taylor23890 Жыл бұрын
@@willfanofmanyii3751her mother did tell them that
@PrincessPink433 Жыл бұрын
Telling the blackmailer that what they’re doing is illegal won’t do anything because they probably already know and don’t care. The best course of action is to just ignore them and report their behavior immediately because once you give into their demands, they won’t stop.
@amateur_artist6057 Жыл бұрын
Worked for the University off-site and got a lock-down text when the murder happened. More I learned the more I was completely horrified by the whole situation. Lauren did all the right things and the system failed her. Haunted by the fact that her mother was on the phone with her when the attack occurred. RIP Lauren you are not forgotten ❤
@SICresinwrks Жыл бұрын
That poor mother has to live the rest of her life with the sound if her daughter getting kidnapped burnt into her memory
@NuttyProfessor- Жыл бұрын
I lived in Washington and this is my first time hearing of this case but I am affected so deeply please feel sorry for me
@InteriorDesignStudent Жыл бұрын
@@NuttyProfessor- No
@safs3098 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say she did everything right. He was abusive, she stayed with him, she found out he was a 37 year old sex offender with a violent past, didn't take it seriously, dude literally imprisoned her in a room and she didn't even file a false imprisonment and kidnapping case. Then all the reports she did have were so mild that you'd think it was a common breakup and no a 37 year old sex offender stalking her. Her parents too saying "our daughter was harassed a bit, and she broke up with this BOY" rather than saying she was stalked, imprisoned, and possible attacked by a criminal
@NuttyProfessor- Жыл бұрын
@@InteriorDesignStudent racist bigot
@carrieeawbrey2830 Жыл бұрын
As a survivor of domestic violence, I’m not surprised by the lack of action in this case. Too often the signs are ignored till it’s too late. We as a society need to do better. RIP sweet girl. Thanks Adrian for bringing light to this case.
@sdkdjdjdsjjddjsj5350 Жыл бұрын
This this so much this
@hebedite4865 Жыл бұрын
i was gonna say the same thing. It's way too common.
@HoffMatt Жыл бұрын
@@hebedite4865 I once read a comment (I think it was on one of this channel's videos, or another channel's, I don't remember) but I agree with what it said... "The police aren't crime prevention, they're crime reaction."
@alison797 Жыл бұрын
@@HoffMattYou are exactly right.
@cdes1776 Жыл бұрын
I would love to think that more proactive laws and enforcement of such laws are in place - but they're not. Why is it allowed to remain a low priority after all these years of death after death around the world?
@elizabethwheeler167 Жыл бұрын
You’re right Adrian, this is infuriating on all levels. The psycho ex-boyfriend, the earnest young lady who’s still learning life lessons, the inadequate but well-meaning parents, the drop-kick campus police and regular police, the complexity of shame, fear and embarrassment when reaching out for help and getting none. They’re all recipes for impending doom. We’ve had another similar case here a few days back. An ex-partner shot his baby mama (toddler unharmed) set the house on fire, drive off and shot himself. What is going on with the world washing their hands of domestic violence?
@chittalkstudio5 ай бұрын
Yeah that case happened in my city. I saw cops camera footage. They coulda intervened before it happened
@bellamate17 Жыл бұрын
She was failed by campus security and law enforcement. She was also failed by the system who allowed this predator to roam free. Rest in peace 🌹
@user-mn6sq3is4t4 ай бұрын
So sorry love from India😢😢😢😢😢😢
@IsmaelOrtiz-oj2de2 ай бұрын
She failed herself for being attracted to and fooled by a predator
@thedrinkinggames9573 Жыл бұрын
Stalking is one of the few crimes that truly terrifies me. Nobody will do anything about it until it's too late. There's almost nothing you can do about it until you really can't do anything at all.
@tarajohnson165 Жыл бұрын
Having been in a abusive relationship, this is awful! This young woman did everything she should have. This story broke my heart.
@broeheemed32 Жыл бұрын
She could have abused him back. Why didn't she?
@suspiciousactivity4266 Жыл бұрын
Wrong. Her first mistake was meeting him in the first place.
@Confessions089 Жыл бұрын
@@suspiciousactivity4266but how was she supposed to know?
@corntrollio854 Жыл бұрын
The 13% don't value white lives. They don't see whites as human.
@d3vildoll666 Жыл бұрын
@@Confessions089sent him 1,000$? She couldve refused at least.
@InkRose101 Жыл бұрын
It’s so scary what obsessed individuals will do. I also had a situation with an individual that had an unhealthy obsession and infatuation with me in college. He was my lab partner and I even failed classes due to the situation. My teacher didn’t believe me, so I went to a lawyer and then I threatened to go to the police and press charges if my stalker didn’t stop. Luckily he listened and left me alone.
@newlynic Жыл бұрын
This one hit home a little too hard. I was in an 8 year relationship with a man who was emotionally abusive. When I finally had the courage to leave, it took three days to leave him. He would not let me sleep, eat, or potty without him being on the phone until I took him back. After 4 days of not eating, I finally was free. I ate a slice of cake as a reward and got sick from it. That is the proudest moment of my life and I truly hope no one ever has to go through anything like that. I hate that she was in an abusive relationship where he wouldn't let her go. I'm so grateful I didn't die. I now have a 6 month old daughter and a husband I love and job I love. I would never have that opportunity if I met a man like Melvin. I hope Lauren's family finds peace. I can't imagine their pain. I wish he could have just let her go.
@scottyerkes1867 Жыл бұрын
The police forces failed terribly. Both campus and city. A beautiful young woman senselessly murdered. And her killer dead by his own hand. No justice for Lauren. Thanks Adrian
@ThomasSawyers Жыл бұрын
Thx for spoiling it bud, always appreciated when some reveals a bunch of details before someone else has seen it simply because they already have.
@lilychoux Жыл бұрын
@@ThomasSawyers If you're worried about getting 'spoiled' when a woman was stalked and murdered then you really need to take a good long look at yourself. This isn't fiction - a real person died here, and being butthurt that her murder was 'spoiled' for you is fucking vile.
@JaceB-tf3vf Жыл бұрын
Fuck did you expect them to do? Provide her 24/7 security? Her fault for fucking a black
@ThomasSawyers Жыл бұрын
@@lilychouxif you were really worried about that you wouldn't watch these...wtf are you talking about? What's the point in a storytelling when you know the outcome? You're effed in the head if that's your take from my comment. It's annoying for someone who's seen something to simply summarize. Otherwise why not just have a 30 second video? Imagine calling someone vile because they wanna learn the details throughout not just all at once. Cry more to your therapist, you need to let some emotions out clearly.
@myguyyy Жыл бұрын
@@ThomasSawyersI know someone else already said it, but I’d like to reiterate that this isn’t a movie. It’s about someone’s actual death. I saw this information reported in the news when it first happened. Did they “spoil” the murder too? Fucking weirdo.
@possumlodge5368 Жыл бұрын
I used to date a girl whos ex did a bunch of stalkerish crap. Calling/texting constantly, posting her photos and phone number online as well as showing up at her work. I convinced her to call the cops one night and ended up regretting it. They basically told her to change her phone number and consider trying to find a new job since she 'just works in the mall'. So its easy to see why people dont trust police, cause I certainly don't.
@ShhhYouDontSeeMe Жыл бұрын
Don't regret it. Y'all have a paper trail which can help in an emergency or lawsuit
@maschaorsomething Жыл бұрын
Ouch, what the fuck? My current partner called the cops to help me escape my ex, because we were in my apartment after he just showed up at night. I was supposed to quickly leave while he slept. What did they do? Just go inside, turn on the lights, have me announce to my ex that I am leaving the apartment, and then give me disgusted looks.
@NikkiC777 Жыл бұрын
@@maschaorsomethingThat's really messed up, both those situations yours and the OPs are messed up. It's like they don't take these things seriously at all until someone ends up dead. I have dealt with it myself also, and my ex slashed all my tires, and all my new boyfriend's tires too SMH. This was after he had also broken into my apartment too, on a separate occasion. The police did nothing at all to help me either.
@ryanstewart4444 Жыл бұрын
My uncle did something very similar to what Melvin did here with shocking similarities regarding the lack of concern from law enforcement. It is both amazing and disgusting that 25 years later these people can't be stopped before it ends this way
@sassywolf1 Жыл бұрын
Stray nothing very similar happen on the west coast south island of Nz. A woman was being harassed by her ex and he ended up driving her to the middle of nowhere and killing her. Very tragic. I wish I knew more details but it wasn't reported in the news
@mastEren11 Жыл бұрын
Just about managed to get through the whole video, listening to. This was infuriating. Can't imagine how she must've felt going through all this. RIP, Lauren.
@kemetikit Жыл бұрын
I reported my abusive ex to police several times but they never did anything; we were instructed to “talk it out”. He raped me, broke my jaw, teeth and nose, gave me nerve damage that I still have today, brain damage from a severe concussion as well. Thank you, officers, we sure did talk it out. I’m lucky to be alive, but not all are so lucky, obviously… this is a disturbing reminder of that solemn fact. RIP Lauren… your death was senseless and preventable. 😓 ***UPDATE*** thank you so much for support and kind words for those who showed me love, it means a lot! 💕 If you’ve been through something similar I feel for you and wish you all the best. And for the few who have nothing better to do than victim shame, spew negativity and hatred… You’re part of the problem, nobody is impressed with how “edgey” you think you are. Victim blaming or shaming others who have been through something difficult isn’t cute. Y’all need help. Take care. ✌🏻
@ladansemakabre Жыл бұрын
oh my god i'm so sorry that happened to you... i'm glad you're here.
@personafanatic4597 Жыл бұрын
that's terrible, i'm sorry you went through that. also glad you're still here in spite of it and hope you are able to heal ❤
@davidofergals6947 Жыл бұрын
Maybe chose a nice guy next time.
@ladansemakabre Жыл бұрын
@@davidofergals6947 men are so stupid. do y'all seriously think women date abusive men bc they like them being horrible human beings? these men pretend to be nice until they're not. that's how they get in your life. and this can happen to men too, with abusive women. stop blaming the victims
@morganvanbeerschoten342 Жыл бұрын
@@davidofergals6947you're a sad little keyboard gremlin for saying that to an abuse victim.
@BloodofaFool Жыл бұрын
The police that took her picture and said they were lucky to get it are DISGUSTING human beings. Law enforcement and campus security really failed her on this one.
@sneed4987 Жыл бұрын
Maybe she shouldn't have sent nude pictures if she didn't want them out there 🤷♂️
@Brittany4sure Жыл бұрын
‼️😡🤮
@CaptainPolaris Жыл бұрын
@@sneed4987 BZZZZT wrong answer!
@Josh-gq6hh Жыл бұрын
@@sneed4987 your lack of empathy and understanding is truly shocking
@bexproctor360 Жыл бұрын
@@sneed4987and the dick of the day award goes to you !
@xavierb8148 Жыл бұрын
This case made me so upset because there were many opportunities to do something to protect her from this tragedy. Makes me worry for my sister who’s in uni and what could happen to her and how little the campus would do if she ever got into a situation like this. RIP Lauren 💔
@marinaemmanuel707211 ай бұрын
All that evidence …her voice cracking…you can feel the pain and fear in her voice. Poor girl. Shameful from the law enforcement not doing their job to protect this girl. They should be ashamed and embarrassed! Her death is on their hands. Melvin was a coward. Killing himself before he faced justice. Disgusting. I pray that God gives her family comfort and peace.
@WyldFyreFli Жыл бұрын
My friend's ex trapped her in a room all night like that. I randomly went to her house when she didn't answer my texts and it seemed off. I flipped out made him leave and called the police. If you think someone is dangerous in the slightest don't see them alone please.
@aroseinwinter7719 Жыл бұрын
You, as a woman, wresled him out of the appartment… you must be scary when you’re angry.
@WyldFyreFli Жыл бұрын
@@aroseinwinter7719 I never had to touch him he's like 5'4" meth head like 140lbs I'm 5'6" 200lbs plus I'm the only black person in that lives in this area so I think I make everyone a little uneasy to begin with. I have fought a few guys but they were just dudes that had never been in a fight before so they didn't really know how to fight back
@shino8854 Жыл бұрын
@@WyldFyreFliYou go girl 💪
@lavieenrosie. Жыл бұрын
@angelaschlosser3215 Angela!!! I can't tag you for whatever reason, but THANK YOU for saving a girl! You're awesome!
@anneperry9014 Жыл бұрын
Good for you sweetie. Need more friends like you and me!!❤
@jenniferfisher9303 Жыл бұрын
I bet the campus would be on her case if she missed a tuition payment....but obviously could have cared less regarding her safety. What a damn shame. Poor Lauren and her family.
@madsdee7803 Жыл бұрын
The campus police went out with her to get her car. Then she called up all wishy washy and went into a long speech instead of getting to the facts. She sounded like she wasn't taking it seriously herself.
@inrptn Жыл бұрын
@@madsdee7803 she clearly sounded distressed and in shock.
@sassywolf1 Жыл бұрын
My ex boyfriends friends are mean. Q. Q. Or A sexual offender with a gun is stalking me and I'm scared for my life. I wouldn't take her seriously either.
@robinwelch22659 ай бұрын
@@sassywolf1🌷It is very intimidating for people to call police when they are in a stalking situation. They are afraid to make the stalker more angry.
@beyondcomprehensions8 ай бұрын
@@madsdee7803 You definitely sound like the same type of people as the campus police. Glad to know that there are people more useless than I am
@brandyrose9997 Жыл бұрын
Adrian, I'm always impressed by how compassionately you tell the stories of the victims. Thank you. 🌷🕊
@xXChloeKissXx Жыл бұрын
21:35 this whole interaction is making my blood boil especially when it gets to the point where the operator on the phone asks her if she texted the literal guy thats been harassing her if she has texted him to stop calling it's like... no um.. the guy is HARASSING me heLLO??
@AdamOBrien29 Жыл бұрын
Imagine paying ridiculous amounts of money for an education and when asking security for help you're ignored 😞
@Jonathan_Strange Жыл бұрын
I'm not quite sure at which point Campus Security became Agony Aunt. My advice: If you feel your life is in danger... go to the police and report it, with clear evidence (eg. threatening texts/messages, etc). Document the circumstances and details (eg. report that a fake ID is being used, or that you've done research and found previous convictions or something). Ask the police to do a background check. Don't just phone Campus Security every time your ex (that you didn't realize is 20 years older than you) sends you a funny text message. Go into an actual Police Station, and demand a case number... maybe even go as far as a restraining order or something. If you're feeling threatened consider pepper spray or a buddy system. Stay at a friend. Don't move around alone. Don't loan your car out to the person you're afraid of... You could say that a lot of this advice is "after the fact" - but it seems logical to me. If you're going to phone the police on behalf of someone else... make sure you have the facts... the chronology... the details... the suspicions... what you expect the desired outcome to be. The amount of intervention required or sought. I'm not saying this would have prevented what happened... but... seriously... if it's serious enough to get the police involved... make sure you have a case to present. Explain that you fear for your life. Even just start with an Campus counsellor? (I don't live in the US... but was surprised that Campus Security had jurisdiction and were regarded as fully fledged police for matters like this).
@AC-ff1cn Жыл бұрын
@@Jonathan_Strangeshe did go to the police, they sent her back to campus police. So good job on writing your ignorant novel.
@alison797 Жыл бұрын
@@Jonathan_Strangeyou are so right. And the number of people apparently not realising this is sad.
@bigri8032 Жыл бұрын
@@Jonathan_Strange abusers don't go usually go for a confident person that is quick to speak up they like the friendly trusting anxious ect personalities. Also the police told her to go back to security and wouldn't help her. It's easier said than done to get away from abusers in Australia being murdered by a former spouse is very common even when the police take it seriously your not protected. It can be a pretty shit world
@valeriewaltonCN Жыл бұрын
My roommate went on a date with this guy just a week before Lauren was murdered. And she matched with him on the local religious dating app. She could tell right away that something was off with him and blocked him after that first date. There were so many other women who came forward with similar stories after Lauren was murdered.
@stewpitt8388 Жыл бұрын
@valeriewalton Does she want a trophy for figuring out that a guy who is obviously from a group responsible for 60% of the murders in the U.S. might be dangerous? Never mind,most women are so dumb that she probably deserves one. Here's a handy tip for not getting murdered:stop dating people who are statistically THIRTY FIVE TIMES more likely to murder you,stupid.
@selfishstockton6123 Жыл бұрын
Clout chasers
@MzCheecharella Жыл бұрын
@@selfishstockton6123 Nah, I think the person posting the above comment is compelled to share, due to it genuinely having happened.
@someoneout-there2165 Жыл бұрын
Never used them but I've heard the Christian dating sites can be the most dangerous and they use it to target vulnerable ladies. So disgusting.
@HaggisMuncher-69-420 Жыл бұрын
@@MzCheecharellaNope. Clout chasing at its finest.
@vincek661311 ай бұрын
Wild, I was working nearby when we got alerts of a shooting on campus. Security and the law definitely failed her. Wish he hadn't been let free to continue being a monster but also wish she had bailed earlier at signs of control and paranoia and had left school until the issue had a resolution. It's hard with youth and inexperience to know how to handle these terrible situations
@CJ_Comedy85 Жыл бұрын
As someone who lives in UT and was living there when this happens, it is very frustrating knowing they look they other way when women are in trouble. Way too many cases like this could be and should be prevented.
@tylerminear7949 Жыл бұрын
Killing someone then killing yourself is such a cowardly act. I’m also sick and tired of story after story where people that should clearly be in jail being released so that they can kill. It’s clear that these judges and police either have no common sense or just don’t care, both are deeply concerning.
@cdes1776 Жыл бұрын
They often cite excuses like 'not enough money', 'nothing we can do', 'overcrowded prisons'. More prisons are certainly needed but that's not where gov't money goes.
@TheLikenessOfNormal Жыл бұрын
I mean the cops don't decide how long sentencing is, what charges are prosecuted or what the minimum time served would be. That's all the DA and judges. Cops had their hands tied by the rest of the justice system which was inexplicably lenient on this monster.
@cdes1776 Жыл бұрын
@@TheLikenessOfNormal But they can *act* on the reports. They are the front-line.
@belmum1689 Жыл бұрын
@@cdes1776They are only human, they didn't know he was going to murder anyone
@itsybitsypixzie Жыл бұрын
@@belmum1689well they sure didn't care to make sure SHE stayed safe. It's their damn job to know when a person is a THREAT. Don't make excuses for them or you are just as bad as they are.
@JaiPritchett Жыл бұрын
29:39 Not everyone failed her. During this story I kept thinking of that 1st call handler doing a good job and getting her car picked up. She felt the concern in the situation
@adminvrm1192Күн бұрын
Because it was the mother that called. They felt compelled at that point
@JaiPritchettКүн бұрын
@@adminvrm1192 I didn't say it wasn't the mother and I am still correct in saying not everyone failed her
@chloew585111 ай бұрын
This makes me so sad. I dealt with a similar situation with an ex (not the false identity) but the abuse, harassment, stalking etc, and the police never took me seriously. They assumed since its an ex that they were welcomed interactions. Without going into the other details, I still have over 200 phone numbers blocked, he would just make one after another and would do anything to get to me. I feel fortunate to have made it out alive. I wish that these things would be taken seriously, my heart goes out to her and her family.
@Chemaah11 ай бұрын
The incompetence of the police is outrageous this case really got under my skin rip Lauren
@sandibaker5298 Жыл бұрын
As a victim of several SA’s, that monster getting parole after only one year is a slap in the face to anyone who’s ever suffered that abuse, especially his victims.💔😡💔😡
@feralon9570 Жыл бұрын
SA isn't taken serious by ANYONE, EVER. There are many reports of rapists getting women pregnant and going for custody when they get out. Look it up. No one really cares, no one advocates for change. We just go on to bury the shit deep inside and deal with it ourselves.
@rickandmortyslime7963 Жыл бұрын
skill issue
@ML-rs7we Жыл бұрын
Because of his victim status
@lisavanderpump7475 Жыл бұрын
Wait how are you several ???? Did u live in a bad area . I'm so sorry
@sandibaker5298 Жыл бұрын
@@lisavanderpump7475 Thank you. No, I think it was just bad luck. The first time was a neighbor who I adored, until he betrayed me when I was just 6 yo. The second was my auntie’s husband, who was a miserable excuse for a human being. And lastly is the most unbelievable and definitely the worse. It was a stranger at Myrtle Beach, in broad daylight. I was maybe 14 yo. That’s why I KNOW you can’t take your eyes off of your children. Something detrimental can happen in the span of a few minutes.
@doctorshell7118 Жыл бұрын
When you’re not prioritizing safety, you cease to call yourself “public safety”.
@truman5838 Жыл бұрын
These bleeding heart snowflakes are delusional. Girls who date the bad boy often regret it later.
@johnpendarvis7885 Жыл бұрын
The system exists to perpetuate itself. "Public safety" is not the priority.
@0000SYL Жыл бұрын
this is why you need masculine men as brothers and father, no way my sister would be calling useless police a gazillion times to no use instead of informing me of what is up
@hanyuuhiiragi3544 Жыл бұрын
@@0000SYLthis is why you need anyone who can kick ass. Like my sister did.
@RadenWA Жыл бұрын
And if they are no longer “public”, then they better no longer be funded by our tax money.
@783342 Жыл бұрын
The number of people that failed her are endless including the police,, especially the one on holidays that didn't make sure someone else was following up and aware of her concerns.What a tragedy. Many people, I imagine, would be thinking long and hard about their own part in this tragedy. Even if they tried to push it out their minds, I don't think they could.
@danielkac5409 Жыл бұрын
I’ve gone through the same thing but with a woman stalking me for 6 years. She’s been in jail 4 times already for it. It’s bloody hell looking over my shoulder everyday.😔
@post3422 Жыл бұрын
The fact one of the security people at the university saved her photo is just sick!!!
@mugiwarabon3374 Жыл бұрын
I live in the area. He was fired from his job, tried to get another job in law enforcement in a different city, was fired from that one the moment they realized who he was, and has since been shamed and bared from any other law enforcement type jobs. Essentially his whole career was ruined.
@arby796 Жыл бұрын
I am not against police doing their jobs when they are doing them properly but this is the entire justice system failing this poor girl.
@TheLikenessOfNormal Жыл бұрын
This to me seems more like everyone but the cops failed her. They get a report on him and what he's doing, they have to send that to the DA's office, DA's office decides if they wanna prosecute for it or not, if they don't then the police can't get a warrant for arrest. The DA was also the one who gave him a sentence that allowed him to get out that early and wasn't monitoring the conditions of his parole at all. The cops will feel guilty about this, the DA feels good because even though he's most responsible for letting this scum out on the streets again, this is an easy case to prosecute and another W on the DA's record.
@arby796 Жыл бұрын
@@TheLikenessOfNormal Seemed like the local police did nothing but redirect her to the university and based on her calls with them it didn't seem like they ever did anything with the information they were getting from her. Maybe thats just how it came across to me though.
@kyrohowe3156 Жыл бұрын
@TheLikenessOfNormal 10:39 - by the moment I saw his date of conviction, I was caught off-guard because July 19 is also my mother's birthday. Terrifying, though it's unrelated to the case.
@beckyblueish Жыл бұрын
@@TheLikenessOfNormalThe SLPD told her that they couldn’t do anything because it was campus police’s jurisdiction. She told them that campus police weren’t helping at all, but they still refused to step in.
@smilex-rh2nq Жыл бұрын
I just can't believe he is black. Usually this kind of stuff and child touching is white job.
@tamz7396 Жыл бұрын
It frustrates me to no end that a woman can be so terrified, file multiple reports, and still be fobbed off as authorities just couldn't be fucked to assist! I truly pray each person who turned her away feel the guilt of her life for the rest of their lives
@Lil_lioness Жыл бұрын
Yep, every woman has had a bad experience with men. Not all men target women, but it makes sense that we fear them. It's labelled as misandry, but actually we are just scared of men because we have all experienced some type of harassment since the age of 12 years old
@corgisandtea8257 Жыл бұрын
This is maddening. This girl was so smart. Her parents were so smart. They used resources. And still. Im baffled. Outof all of the crimes I have listened to this is the one where there are no excuses for this victim to have been safe.
@suspiciousactivity4266 Жыл бұрын
This is just yet another instance where you do not trust in the process.
@priceandpride3 ай бұрын
Were they though?
@adminvrm1192Күн бұрын
Agreed
@haleycpoke Жыл бұрын
Okay I can’t be the only one who was in AGONY listening to the mother and Lauren try and explain themselves on the phone. I am not trying to be rude but they didn’t exactly do a good job being fully clear and explaining the situation. RIP
@MasterArmedforces Жыл бұрын
Absolutely ... they both sounded like 5th graders trying to explain it...😡
@janellecumberbatch3651 Жыл бұрын
Exaxtly, they never stated the point.
@dietdrpepper15 Жыл бұрын
Wish they wrote out what was happening, so they could explain better. Save evidence in a google drive. Because the darn police will won’t do anything with out “proof”. I mean a victim’s words I guess ain’t enough.
@mrmetaljunkie1 Жыл бұрын
And the dad! His daughter is being attacked, and he's all "well...ummmm...there was a boy...." Just walking around the point instead of saying "SOMEONE IS ATTACKING MY DAUGHTER AT THIS LOCATION AND ITS MOST LIKELY THIS PERSON. WE'VE BEEN HAVING ISSUES WITH HIM HARASSING HER"
@trevthegamedev Жыл бұрын
@@dietdrpepper15 Well proof is very important, innocent until *proven* guilty, right?
@InteriorDesignStudent Жыл бұрын
I must preface this by saying I do not blame the victim or her family. Melvin is to blame. This is guidance for anyone out there who finds themselves in a similar situation. When you call the police, if there is time, write a script first. "My name is X. I am being stalked by Y. He is a registered sex offender. I need to file a police report. Send an officer to (address)." If you are a parent, prepare to be very firm and not hesitant: "My name is X. My daughter/son is Y. He/she/they is a student at Z. Send police to (address) immediately. On a phone call, she was heard screaming, "No no no no no," before the line went dead. She was being stalked by an armed sex offender. She is in imminent danger." In these calls, father and daughter were not conveying the sense of urgency that was needed. I don't know if a change of tone would have made a difference here. It sounds like these police were incompetent. But, if you run into this kind of danger, make sure the police have no doubt that your life is threatened or that you are being hunted by a convicted parolee. Just say whatever you need to say to break through the operator/dispatcher's polite indifference.
@MexicoDigDoctor Жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree. None of the calls sounded urgent in the least, and nobody had their thoughts together enough to be clear to the dispatch operater. Writing down the essential information first is a really great suggestion! What a terrible shame that he was ever let out of jail.
@elisesims5389 Жыл бұрын
You are so right. I thought the same thing during majority of those calls. They just weren't clear enough or conveyed the urgency/seriousness of the situation. Although, if you have never met a monster before, you may downplay their threat & not believe he would ever cause her physically harm
@Kris.with.a.K Жыл бұрын
I was looking for a comment like this. I was beginning to think it was just me who thought the calls weren't delivering the valid concern of her true risk. Thank you for sharing these excellent suggestions!! ❤
@steve10 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels like the calls weren't urgent enough, I literally had no idea what she was asking the campus to do in one of the calls, she was piecing together different bits of info , he borrowed her car, his friends were texting her , she knew it was him though ??? I just wanted her to tell them he is a dangerous sex offender , that he faked his ID and the person she was dating was a fake person , he had a gun , he was threatening her all this should have been conveyed to the campus police, I cant think why she didn't.
@MexicoDigDoctor Жыл бұрын
@@steve10 Yes, a couple of those calls just sounded like she and her friend had simply had a spat. There’s not much the campus police or the regular police could do about something like that. I’m thinking that she perhaps felt some embarrassment about having gone back to him, lent him her car again, etc. That happens to a lot of people, and not just women. Where you know that a person is definitely toxic for you, but for whatever reason you just go back anyway. And when her parents called, I think that most likely she had not really explained the entire extent of what was going on to them, probably for the same reason (embarrassment). So if they really didn’t understand, it would make sense that the parents would not necessarily sound terribly alarmed over the phone. As the person who made the original post that we are all commenting on said, this is not victim blaming or shaming. This happens to people of all races, creeds, genders and ages. Far too often, in fact, and sometimes ending in physical violence and even death, as this case unfortunately did.
@TheJadeNightshade Жыл бұрын
I was abused by my ex, I just left and pretty much told myself to never get the cops involved in my relationships, and this story only proves my fear of getting the police involved.. I feel so bad for this woman and her family and hope that one day her family can start healing.
@dianalucas803 Жыл бұрын
I’m heartbroken that she had to die because of the carelessness of those on duty to protecting their students. They still have a life to live while this beautiful child lost hers because they didn’t take her seriously. Time to up grade safety for all paying students in this University complex ….Thankfully her dear parents got a hand in this and decided what best to use her memory. Sadly they still don’t / can’t ,touch, hold and talk to their baby girl no more , which money can never buy or replace. My deepest condolence to these beautiful parents and 'prayers their way' R.IP BEAUTIFUL ANGEL😔
@yulebones Жыл бұрын
That's just how it is here in the US. The number of times I was told "Give us a call when he actually attacks you" when I was being stalked was shameful. I ended up having to uproot my entire life because the police just did not care. Hundreds of calls, dozens of reports, multiple peace orders. They just do not care.
@lavieenrosie. Жыл бұрын
I'm so, so sorry! 😢
@kingofracism Жыл бұрын
Laura died lol
@dietdrpepper15 Жыл бұрын
Men(who are usually cops) will take the man’s side. Just automatic bias. It’s rage inducing. Police departments need to be rebuilt from the ground up where domestic cases are completely separate from other cases.
@Noah20340 Жыл бұрын
Womp womp
@yulebones Жыл бұрын
@@kingofracism If you want to get people riled up, don't have such an obvious username. Do something better with your time.
@Jenny73415 Жыл бұрын
Stalking and murder. My worst fears. Stay safe, everyone. ❤️
@rluciano287 Жыл бұрын
@@ahmedp8009so white and other race killers, rapists and stalkers don't exist??
@Karenanneseven Жыл бұрын
🫶✌️🥹
@nelsonricardocosta Жыл бұрын
around blax never relax.
@paullaney5016 Жыл бұрын
@@nelsonricardocostaIgnorance smh... WOW
@fishandchipsupper Жыл бұрын
Will do. Thanks.
@DamnitDana Жыл бұрын
It’s been a minute since I’ve actually cried listening to a case. RIP beautiful Lauren 🤍
@waynehoffman456 Жыл бұрын
Just a reminder for everyone out there, you can (and probably should) pay for a background check on anyone you intend on being in a relationship with. It is too easy to do and can save you serious trouble.
@robertathey850411 ай бұрын
Yes. I’ve gone on a few first dates where the women knew quite a bit about me.
@chailovert6826 Жыл бұрын
So heartbreaking! Can't fathom how scared and helpless Lauren must have felt!
@dsmusicbird Жыл бұрын
Yeah. You can hear it in her voice, in her calls. 😢
@astrzmbie9968 Жыл бұрын
She didn't feel any of that when she was taking that BBC, she deserved it
@kingofracism Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@dudemorris7769 Жыл бұрын
Sadly she should have broke it off with this man before it ever started. She continued to stay with him even after finding out his name was false & his age wasn’t what she was told. Instead she started “investigating”, & they hadn’t been dating for not even a month at the time. She could have easily walked away at that time & been done with him. When she confronted him is when it began & he felt she was going to put his business on the street. Had she let it go, left the relationship & then not told him she was going to tell others, she’d still be alive today. You can’t blame others for her own actions and behavior.
@BD-1-And-Only Жыл бұрын
My ex best friend was the dude who provided the gun… this case is chilling to me
@BigGeminiGoat Жыл бұрын
What happened to the officers who had her nude photos??? Were they fired or even charged bc if he's still allowed to be a officer I'm truly disappointed and horrified for those students on campus. Rip Lauren nobody protected her and she could have been saved! Every officer that overlooked this case should be fired
@chrisk5985 Жыл бұрын
The one who downloaded and showed people the photos quit in September 2019 and took a job with Logan police in northern Utah, and was later fired because of the mishandling of Lauren's case. To name and shame him, he was named Miguel Deras. He's trying to sue the university for $10 million, saying they were treated as "scapegoats". I hope he never gets a single penny from that case, as he deserves nothing. He was recently interviewed for a documentary about the case, where (from the transcripts I've read) he doesn't fully own up to his actions.
@botanicalitus4194 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisk5985thankyou for this info 🙏
@skunkrat01 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree! This whole video was a hard watch, but that fact actually turned my stomach. Not enough you didn't do anything for her in life, you can't even give her dignity in death?? What kind of monster do you have to be?
@omadjourney Жыл бұрын
@@chrisk5985so what's the point of firing them if they just let them move on to another force, that doesn't make sense.
@cdes1776 Жыл бұрын
@@omadjourney Due diligence on the part of a potential employer.
@user-hf5ty3ed2e3 ай бұрын
Her parents have no urgency in their voices.. none at all. Even that father was calm as hell explaining how he just heard his daughter scream "no,no,no" and then dead air.. something horrible just happened after a series of events and thats his urgency?
@mirandahughes2312 Жыл бұрын
I had graduated from this school the year before it happened and this shook the whole community. Around the same time a policeman forcefully arrested a female nurse from the university hospital despite having done nothing illegal, so the image of police had taken a huge hit at this time. People were so furious and the school had vigils. Zhifan Dong was another student killed four years later. It's a shame because the school is wonderful in terms of degrees and academic support, but it never felt that safe to revisit after knowing the police just didn't care.
@bskinner22rianna Жыл бұрын
I am going to be honest. One of my hs classmates stabbed his ex to death after she got an order of protection and I'm still upset about it. I have a feeling it's going to go almost exactly like this. If someone gets away from their abuser, they should be protected. People wonder why "they don't just leave" and then there's stories like this.
@dietdrpepper15 Жыл бұрын
Yeah there needs a huge support system that protect people leaving abusive relationships. Right now it’s kinda just a flip of a coin if they will be harmed or not.
@anneperry9014 Жыл бұрын
No one knows what happens behind doors so don't judge unless you've been there. It's very scary!!!!🤬
@Scottsgamerlounge Жыл бұрын
It’s honestly so sad that they say “they haven’t done anything yet so there’s nothing we can do.” STALKING IS SOMETHING! May she R.I.P I hope we really do something about the police one day. They don’t do anything
@mochilero-fe6hv11 ай бұрын
Many police are overweight and not remotely fit enough for the job.
@JessiexWx Жыл бұрын
the loss of urgency in theirs voices & lack of important information while talking to the security/police about a very urgent and dangerous life threatening situation possibly did not help regarding the police and security make a fast check up and placing Lauren in security , The police will mostly help faster if they told them how there was no time to waste and Lauren life was in danger .. but mostly this is so so sad and may she rest in peace , my condolences to her family and friends x
@user-zx8vr2bw8d Жыл бұрын
It's really disheartening to see that many of these cases could have been easily prevented :(
@Milkyway109 Жыл бұрын
It's sickening
@Him_He_Me Жыл бұрын
This is so disgusting. How can these officers be so blase about so much evidence. They all caused her death.
@paullaney5016 Жыл бұрын
FACTS! 💯 😠 😡
@L.Reeves Жыл бұрын
Because they're afraid to be called racist. You can't arrest black men these days. Safer to let them murder white girls.
@garrysekelli6776 Жыл бұрын
It was also pretty stupid on the victim's part though. Like oh I'm a preppy girl so I'll go off and date some shady felon guy.
@threatassessment606 Жыл бұрын
@@garrysekelli6776 thanks for calling the victim who now deceased stupid. Classy
@L.Reeves Жыл бұрын
@@garrysekelli6776 4 years of anti-racist american college propaganda at work. All black people aren't shitty but stereotypes exist for a reason and no amount of white guilt will change that
@twitchiewitch1 Жыл бұрын
My adult daughter & her 4 yr old son were violently attacked by her then BF, who had only been out of prison, after a 9 yr bid... for 5 months. I indeed contacted his parole officer w very valid concerns and worries and I was blown off completely! 1 wk later to the day I got a call in the middle of the night, on her bd no less... that she was being air lifted to a trauma center over an hours drive away because she had been beaten, pistol whipped and SHOT! My grandson was forced to witness the whole thing and was also physically assaulted! Obviously I have NO faith that contacting this man's parole officer would have turned out any differently, for the same reasons that saw BOTH of these multiple violent felons paroled in the 1st place! Here in NY we have the "3 strikes" law. That my daughter's perpetrator STILL snaked out of due to a loop hole, since his 1st of the 3 major felonies was for manufacturing meth and not "violent" he was instead given the max of 20 yrs plus parole violations to run consecutively for this latest offence. For the physical assault, the shooting, the kidnapping (holding my daughter, grandson and his own mother, whose house it all took place in... against their will & even causing the death of his own unborn child... my daughter was around 15 wks pregnant) he got 20+ yrs! When he was FINALLY sentenced 1 yr later and the judge handed down that sentence... I felt a sense of relief that we'd have at LEAST 20-25 yrs before we had to start a campaign to fight against his parole eligibility, to KEEP him in prison for his entire sentence like he deserves! Well... last wk I received a letter from our governors office letting me know he was finally remanded to state penitentiary and the breakdown of how his sentence will be served... this MONSTER who killed his own child (that he wasn't even charged w mind u) who held his own mother hostage and beat a 4 yr old child who loved, admired and trusted him and shot my daughter attempting to take her life.. on her BIRTHDAY... apparently only has to do 17 yrs before he's eligible for parole!!! For a 3rd time!!! THIS is our VERY BROKEN justice system!!! On top of all that, and get THIS... His "consecutive" yrs for his parole violations are NOT to be spent IN PRISON but... ON PAROLE!!! He will have 5 yrs of "post release supervision" Like WTF???? SERIOUSLY???
@erinpitkin3902 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering Lauren's story, as a local I can say they stand by the blue and say "boys will be boys" in these situations and it makes me absolutely sick
@LESOUVERAIN12 Жыл бұрын
The father's call to the police pissed me off. He used the guy's fake name instead of the real name they already knew and did not disclose that it has him making the threats all along.
@lukebignell7846 Жыл бұрын
She probably did not tell her dad half of what went on is my guess, he may not have known he was using a fake name. I assume she did not want to look bad in front of her dad, so downplayed what went on. The fact is she was an adult, an attractive adult female with lots of options....who chose a completely unsuitable, unhinged and dangerous looking man to date. That is on her and no one else. Her choice, and the consequences of those choices as an adult is often hard to take.
@MelMel-sz2gd Жыл бұрын
@@lukebignell7846 This is NOT something she chose. HE is the only one who's responsible for the actions HE did. For the CRIMES HE COMMITTED! Stop putting the fucking responsibility on people who are not the perpetrators.
@geneticfreak84 Жыл бұрын
@@lukebignell7846 Sad but true!
@lukebignell7846 Жыл бұрын
@@MelMel-sz2gd If she had chosen a nice boy from her University to date from a good family, would she have ended up where she ended up? YES OR NO?? We all know the answer to that. She would most likely have had men from her University queueing up to date her too.
@briellamore Жыл бұрын
@@lukebignell7846so because she didn’t get with anyone from her university, this is her fault? Absolutely ridiculous. Being from or at a university doesn’t mean you’re a good person, and assuming that’s what would’ve kept her alive is gross. Hindsight is 20/20, especially as a commenter behind a screen. She realized she made a mistake, and ceased the relationship. He did not want to. She reported his behavior. She did the most she could when she realized he was a bad guy. Saying this is the consequences to her actions is directly blaming her for her own death, not the man who wouldn’t leave her alone.
@crillyboy19 Жыл бұрын
She was a victim of an abusive & stalker boyfriend, as well as a failed justice system that didn't take her seriously, absolute disgrace.
@paullaney5016 Жыл бұрын
100 percent agree 💯
@kingofracism Жыл бұрын
She deserved it🥹😇
@alekcahdra5559 Жыл бұрын
I've never seen you so angry about a case, but you are absolutely right to be so!
@nz_aroha4 ай бұрын
This truly breaks my heart, when people ask for help and aren’t taken seriously or are let down by those meant to help them it’s just so devastating
@kitiyana Жыл бұрын
It’s important to communicate clearly when reporting concerns to authorities. It’s better to overstate concerns than minimise them. Make a list of bullet points prior to contacting authorities if necessary. Clearly state the names of people concerned and press for immediate action. I understand how difficult it is to contact authorities when frightened or after having been somewhat groomed to take on a submissive role, but clear, unambiguous communication is so important in these situations.
@Rosiestoned Жыл бұрын
Also always ask to file reports and talk to actual police officers if given the chance, don’t just talk to operators on the phone and expect them to remember you. All calls by Lauren were so confusing and she did not give the proper information. I also think that showing or saying you’re scared, in distress and freaking out is important to communicate the urgency of the situation. Also her father in his call sounded like he had no clue what was going on in his daughter’s life. He still called the guy Sean and that his ‘friends’ were harassing her a little bit… it’s weird he didn’t know and he would maybe have protected her had he known the details. ofc authorities failed miserably and should have taken action way sooner! Im not blaming the victim just thinking about what else went wrong
@whosaidthat9265 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, when listening to the calls of her speaking, personally, I wasn’t very confused as to why the cops were confused too. Not trying to victim blame, especially because everyone has different personalities, her being so passive and timid when reporting makes me think they didn’t grasp how serious this situation was because she didn’t communicate effectively
@Rosiestoned Жыл бұрын
@@whosaidthat9265 sadly a lot of victims often become shy after a period of abuse because their self-esteem is damaged and they often feel a false sense of guilt that they are reporting their abuser.. operators and officers should know this and take anyone very seriously no matter the tone but its often not the case.
@cindypyles6281 Жыл бұрын
@@Rosiestoned it's quite possible that they also knew that she'd let him use her car again after she had a security officer go with her to get it back the first time. then she paid him the blackmail money which was a terrible thing to do on so many levels. she should have given each and every text and email to both the campus police and the city police. documentation is the best way to get their attention. she just didn't have much as far as "street smarts" and was extremely naive. her parents, imo, failed her as much as the police did. when she discovered every thing about him she should have discussed it with them and made arrangements to keep her safe once she got back to utah. both of them sounded clueless and didn't articulate the danger she was in very well at all during their calls. they were both college professors and have probably seen similar things that were happening to their daughter at their own campus. just a sad case all the way around.
@mugiwarabon3374 Жыл бұрын
If you're concerned, and the officer asks if there have been threats, the answer is "YES!" Always, always convey the concern you feel!
@v0VeNoM0v Жыл бұрын
Seeing her walking around alone with all that she's facing is tragic and upsetting, I wish she had at least one person to accompany her back to her door.. RIP
@wildheartxxx135 Жыл бұрын
Sadly she was alone no protecting at all
@Workrategetschingy11 ай бұрын
Init it’s so sad, and it pissed me off that the coward killed himself 😢
@Abcity9210 ай бұрын
Made me wish if I knew her and was nearby knowing her situation I would've checked on her and be there for her ;0;
@The_Whimsical_Stenographer Жыл бұрын
Just a few minutes into this one, I realized I'd seen this story before. Lauren did everything right. This should never have been the outcome. Prayers and love being sent to her friends and family. Fly high, Lauren . . . 🙏💛
@kylevids3951 Жыл бұрын
Did anyone else find it so odd how calm her dad was once he called the cops after hearing her SCREAM?
@niag.3332 Жыл бұрын
Very strange ... and also minimizing what had happend so far ... 🤔
@Em-hp7bo Жыл бұрын
I came here to say the same thing! His saying someone may be “grabbing at her”, then calling Marvin a “boy” when he certainly knows his age by now, and then stating that Marvin’s friends had been “harassing her a bit” was so frustrating to hear! I’m sure there was no ill intent behind it, but good lord, you’d think he’d be desperate to convey the severity of her situation.
@briannelong6823 Жыл бұрын
I’m not in any way saying this is her fault!!! No one should go though this but she seems so calm every time we hear her call ANYONE. If she maybe acted like the situation called for along with her mother and father people may have taken them more seriously. My prayers with this lovely young person and her family and friends.
@AshtonGarland Жыл бұрын
@@briannelong6823she sounded panicked and scared. In no way does she sound calm.
@user-jz2uj1mr5c Жыл бұрын
Stop with these disgusting mean comments. Wtf is wrong with you? Were you with him when he was talking? Did you see his actual state at that moment? Sickening comments.
@boondocksdragon8959 Жыл бұрын
That poor young woman... too often, reports like hers go ignored, and it's just inexcusable on the part of law enforcement and/or anyone in a position of authority to which she'd spoken of her fears and his behavior. These cases hurt a lot, because at the end of the day, they truly are entirely avoidable tragedies. As always, sending Love & Light from Mississippi. Y'all stay safe and keep taking care of each other. ✌🏼🖤☕
@susanandrew6453 Жыл бұрын
Just horrendous. Poor Lauren. She deserved to have a long and wonderful life. Utterly tragic.
@viralcookie3706 Жыл бұрын
it is so appalling that stalking and harassment is never taken seriously anywhere in the world. almost every stalking cases ends up violent or in death, still it is taken very lightly. there should be strong legislation to put stalker in prison no matter their gender. i feel so sad for lauren, she seems to be such a sweet girl. hope she rests in peace❤
@taramay817411 ай бұрын
She sounds also not confident and no self esteem. So makes her an easy target sadly
@whargapmoe9 ай бұрын
@@taramay8174not being confident in those phone calls is understandable - given she sounded scared and unsure on account that she knew she was in a really bad situation. I have no clue where people get that she had low self esteem, though.
@SavvvyGhost Жыл бұрын
Incredible how Universities can admit to their fault after enough people call them out
@Pamela-kg3sbКүн бұрын
I was i a inpatient rehab facility recently and was stalked by a patient. The staff didn't believe me. They wouldn't check the cameras times i had noted, my notes, every incident, nothing. It was horrific
@ashastings92 Жыл бұрын
Even the parents have some fault here, she got abducted over the phone and when her father calls 911 he says "They've been harassing her a bit". There was very little sense of urgency in those 911 calls. If I were the dispatcher I would just think this was another common break-up case as well.
@DJCPreston Жыл бұрын
Honestly that call shook me, so I am glad someone else mentioned it. I don't think he's to blame as I get panic and shock might be setting in, but the difference between "Yes, he's a convicted violent sex offender out on parole, who's been trying to lure her out alone for months now; even going as far as to impersonate the police" and "his friends have kind of been harrasing her a bit" is incredible. I mean one of those is a life and death situation that officers need to get to the scene of now, and the other is a description of teens being mean on social media. I mean it's definitely Law Enforcement's fault she died, as I don't think there was any chance of them getting to her in time thanks to the previous screw ups, but still; it makes me wonder if he even knew what was going on there?
@willisstillhere8846 Жыл бұрын
@@DJCPrestonI mean everyone in the family was nonchalant on the phone, even Rachel herself so I'm not even surprised for some reason
@taramay817411 ай бұрын
Those parents were useless
@Libellulaire9 ай бұрын
@@DJCPreston He's man. That's all. The mother calls because she's worried about her getting a car and makes sure to explain things in details and to explain why it could be dangerous, even though it wasn't an actual emergency. The father hears she's been attacked on the phone and he's just like "Well, she's been a bit bothered in the past sooooo" Women's emergencies aren't taken seriously in any fields because 99% of men don't give a f*ck or always think they're overreacting (all women are just an overdramatic 5 yo who doesn't know what she's saying for those men). It's disgusting, yet absolutely not surprising. Just like the officer enjoying the nudes, showing them, and the other officer being all "Huehuehue lucky you," disgusting, yes, but surprising ? Absolutely not. Cops do that constantly to rape and blackmail victims. Heck, they themselves will rape the victims if they can. And if the woman is too "ugly" for them, instead they humiliate her.
@arielrx99229 ай бұрын
It’s almost as if they were trying to be polite and non-judgmental….. I don’t get it.
@rosemarymcgrory-eb2gd Жыл бұрын
I know exactly how horrific this situation is .. I’m also a victim of stalking .. and it’s wrong just wrong how little law enforcement do to help victims of stalking it really upsets me .. Thank you Adrian for covering this very tragic story .. And fir showing the victim as the good person she was
@starlingswallow Жыл бұрын
The campus cop who kept her nude photo on his phone is REPULSIVE. I hope and pray he is convicted of being a disgusting PERV and looses his job!!!! What a sick SICKO!!!! As someone who's _supposed_ to be protecting her, he DIDNT do his job and on top of that, ABUSED HER TOO. This case is infuriating.
@constantsorrows2119 Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely disgusting. This school absolutely failed this young woman and the staff should have been fired for their negligence. Crimes on campus' are too common and a lot of it is due to so much negligence and lack of care for the student body. I can't imagine the pain this family is still going through. This case close to home since my own aunt was grabbed and assaulted at her own campus and a lot of it could have been done to prevent it. What's worse is the police could have grabbed him. They could have given justice but they basically sat back and let this man take away any chance of justice. Sorry about getting so fired up... Thank you for bringing awareness to cases like this. We need this awareness to help prevent history from repeating.
@Another_taco.Yes_please Жыл бұрын
I had a stalker for years and had nothing to do with him. Didn't know who it was, flowers and cards left on my car at work and at my mother's home. Then at my home. Every time I moved it would stop for awhile and start up again. It turned out to be mom's neighbor. Absolute creep who worked for the telephone company and tracked me. Moved to a new area and he couldn't find me. Then he started sending my mother flowers with note speaking about our great romance so she figured it out. Freaked me out for three years.
@sitiimanina Жыл бұрын
Damn, how did it resolved?
@stephywhaling Жыл бұрын
A prime example of why law enforcement officers should be held accountable in cases of neglecting their duties. Neglect is unacceptable in any other public servants job, so why are law enforcement officers allowed to get away with this time and time again? Absolutely appalling..
@dietdrpepper15 Жыл бұрын
We need a whole new department that can handle this. You can tell police think these cases are not important.
@raskarl Жыл бұрын
Watching this in a coffee shop with a coffee. Yes, I have subscribed.
@helenwright68402 ай бұрын
Got to add that the student housing officer, Diamond, immediately reported the concerns to her supervisor. She was advised not to contact the police but email campus security. Lauren, her friends and Diamond all did the right things. It makes the tragedy all the harder to accept. My heart goes out to her family and friends.
@Wolfenacht Жыл бұрын
This whole time I was just thinking "Call his parole officer". Shame on the cops for not hearing about someone on parole, a sex offender, violent crimes, and they just said "Campus security can help you". I hope her parents sued the shit out of the police.
@auntielaura5 Жыл бұрын
I’m unclear if he was still on parole at the time of the stalking. If he was, calling the parole officer is definitely the first step. (He was very likely to be violating his parole somehow, given his personality.). If parole is over, all they are going to get is the parole officer’s opinion on how dangerous this man can be. That is useful in evaluating the potential threat but wouldn’t help stop him.
@Findpepperbridge Жыл бұрын
They got 10 million
@The_Lone_Wolf Жыл бұрын
This is truly sickening, saddening and despicable case, she did everything right and still was failed, and on a side note thank you Adrian for the extra content each week (an extra video), I have been wanting to see more of your content Sir more than once a week for awhile now.
@candaceewell9582 Жыл бұрын
I had an interaction with him before this. I was at work and took a smoke break and he literally ran up to me asking if I knew about any jobs. I said yeah Maxwell's (the bar downstairs of my job) is looking for a doorman. He stood out because he was so desperate for a job. I think back now and I wonder if he had just gotten out of jail. Ive had an interaction with Josh Powell who killed his wife and Ajay (he killed his tinder date) i forget his last name was my sister's boyfriend for a few weeks....it keeps me awake sometimes because I shouldn't have had experiences with THREE killers. This just doesn't happen in Utah and I feel like I attract it or something
@MsAldil Жыл бұрын
Whoaaaa
@adminvrm1192Күн бұрын
Wowsers
@erikabrown680411 ай бұрын
This shows you how vulnerable we can easily be. It shows us how important clear communication of the hard, cold facts are! I wish she would have gone home for the rest of the semester.
@Komainu959 Жыл бұрын
Haven't finished the video but it's bothering me enough that i wanted to comment on it, realizing that maybe they just didn't play the relevant section of the calls made: If you want to get law enforcement to help. Do NOT sugar coat things when you make your requests. Be DETAILED and tell your story, give the most relevant facts....this guy is a registered sex offender, he was using a false identity, he was involved in blackmail, he was sending threatening messages. This family must be very kind because all these recorded phone calls beat around the bush and they seem to want to downplay what kind of monster they are dealing with. If you believe your safety is in danger- be direct! YOUR safety is what is at risk! It's not a time to "be nice" or to not "bad mouth" someone. How one doesn't lead off with "registered sex offender" each time you mention him to law enforcement is doing yourself a disservice. The above isn't to blame the victim or her parents. It's to hopefully help someone else that finds themselves in a bad situation who needs help. I have worked in a operations center and have experience working with law enforcement and I can tell you, they are far from perfect...just like we all are. Help ensure your safety, don't be nice and tell the situation as it is to make sure the seriousness of it is conveyed.
@LRSNRCNG309 Жыл бұрын
And yet people wonder why you cant trust anyone let alone the cops
@uniquegod1997 Жыл бұрын
and 🐖 wonder why A.C.A.B is written on so many walls and other structures. (atleast here in europe)
@VioletJoy Жыл бұрын
However, it's critical to look at each case individually as well as consider the big picture. These types of cases are rare, yet they get a lot of attention.
@khalilissami4877 Жыл бұрын
Why trusting a bouncer in first place
@lotuspocus76312 Жыл бұрын
🤐
@DJVIIIMan Жыл бұрын
@khalilissami4877 : One would assume an establishment would be doing thorough background checks on the people they hire to work as security.
@lizwcarlson4 ай бұрын
“his friends were kinda harassing her a little bit” is the biggest understatement i’ve ever heard and the fact that it came from her father makes my stomach churn. it’s devastating to hear lauren herself downplay his actions out of sham, but what’s worse is hearing the operators ask the bare minimum and hang up. these calls are more complex than “there’s a fire at 123 street road,” and it deserves to be treated as such.
@toddrichardson8595 Жыл бұрын
One look at him in the preview and I said trouble.. And the Officer bragging about having her nude photos to show off should've been fired, prosecuted and made a serious example of..
@rain74925 Жыл бұрын
She did everything she could! Her concern and cry for help fell on death ears. My heart breaks for her and her family, the compensation pales in comparison to their loss. I hope they heal or find some peace thereafter to move forward. RIP to Lauren.