Colleen Ballinger’s Ex TELLS ALL: Joshua David Evans EXCLUSIVE Interview what NO ONE Knew | Downfall
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Colleen Ballinger’s ex husband Joshua David Evans finally speaks out and tells all in my exclusive one on one interview. The end of Colleen Ballinger’s character Miranda Sings and the downfall has taken a shocking turn with my team’s new discoveries, and evidence never seen before. Hear Colleen’s ex husband’s story that sheds NEW light on all of this, plus all the alleged lies that everyone missed. Has Colleen Ballinger aka Miranda Sings always been this way? This just isn’t adding up…
Part 1: The END of Colleen Ballinger : She Has ALWAYS Been This Way… a NIGHTMARE Downfall : • The END of Colleen Bal...
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00:00 - Intro
02:11 - Meeting Joshua
17:54 - Why Now?
21:34 - The Early Days
25:50 - Trouble In Paradise
39:17 - Cheating
54:11 - Losing Everything
01:09:23 - She’s Always Watching
01:13:40 - Shane Dawson
01:26:56 - Pamela / Kory Desoto
01:31:41 - Taking Accountability
02:25:31 - Johnny Silvestri
03:20:37 - Forgiveness?
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Thank you so much for your tireless work and support of victims. And I thank for making the rest of my shift an easier one.
@Tasha.Nola.Bae1 10 ай бұрын
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@march_dismal4718 10 ай бұрын
For a man accused of horrific things such as grooming and abuse, i’ve never seen someone so forthcoming, transparent and quick to take accountability for everything put in front of him. No excuses, no sidestepping or deflection. I’ve never known an abuser to be so.. willing to admit to their every fault
@henotic.essence 10 ай бұрын
THIS
@maryssaann 10 ай бұрын
So well said. And typically means he’s not an abuser or groomer. Most try to adamantly try to hide that side of them at all costs.
@SnekkySnake 10 ай бұрын
He's a good guy, being selflessly aware, what a fuckin gem he is, restores my faith in humanity he does
@laaurenduh 10 ай бұрын
@@maryssaanni think he was a victim of colleen and she manipulated him or put him in a mindset to be comfortable doing the same things she did with her fans. i saw this saying that said, there’s never an excuse, but always an explanation and i think that goes with this situation.
@nunnunnunyabizzie2345 10 ай бұрын
I have been waiting for his redemption since 2016. I was never really a fan of his, or colleen's for that matter, but I watched their videos back in the day. I watched everything unfold after that divorce that was made public but I knew she was a bad person way before that from their vlogs. The way she treated him, the look on her face at their wedding, the horrible digs at him about his career - she was emotionally abusive. It was clear as day that Josh was just this goofy guy who wanted to be a pop star and he got smashed to bits by Colleen. People forget this but I really want to emphasise it - Colleen did not attack Josh publicly directly, ***SHE GOT TRISHA TO DO IT***. Trisha would make horrendous videos slandering Josh as Colleen had fooled her into believing they were besties. The stuff Trisha said was absolutely vile towards Josh with zero evidence. I remember a video he made, very visibly dishevelled and shaken by the whole thing and struggling with rapid weight gain, that he could say A LOT about the situation with Trisha, but he held himself back and said he wasn't going to do it. He said nothing even though he was very much in pain, even when everyone was attacking him, even when it was the time to say EVERYTHING. But he never stooped that low. His integrity went ignored, but I never forgot. I am so glad he is getting heard and that his redemption day has finally come. I'm just some asshole stranger/lurker on the internet, same age-ish as Josh, but I never forgot it and I am so fucking here for this karma. I hope this eases his soul, and that he and Pamela can finally move on.
@ailsagillies 10 ай бұрын
This interview is the perfect example of: "The truth doesn't mind being questioned; a lie does."
@xiantree3081 10 ай бұрын
THIS
@chelseahindle3645 10 ай бұрын
The contrast between Josh’s interview and Johnny’s is astounding for this very reason
@horizon_upkm55 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree.
@sassysince90 10 ай бұрын
EXACTLY 💯
@undeuxtrois123 10 ай бұрын
She was never remorseful for what she did anyway. Even if she comes back her "apology" will be fake and not genuine. I hope she doesn't come back so that her kids have their privacy and not on camera every single day. She can go make money in a more ethical way instead of exploiting people around her.
@yunochiii 9 ай бұрын
Seeing Colleen talk about her ex to a bunch of children in a group chat should basically tell you everything you need to know about her emotional baseline
@jessp8238 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely 😂
@Lucifersfursona 9 ай бұрын
Colleen projecting her abuse onto Josh as coming from him and begging for pity from the minors she was grooming
@hotflippinmess9178 8 ай бұрын
Flying monkeys. Those poor fans were used just like he was.
@RealWorldMoming 8 ай бұрын
It’s like the teacher that would come into class and talk about their personal life for the first 15 mins of class. “ miss I just want to turn in my homework.” Coleen reminds me of those teachers that that gets their students to harm their husband.
@eternallybroken 8 ай бұрын
150%%%%%%%
@TheMinimalistTherapist 10 ай бұрын
I am a therapist. Joshua David Evans has shown here how abuse happens by a thousand tiny cuts that no one sees, how boundaries are pushed incrementally slowly and how this becomes normalised, how stressful cognitive dissonance is when the safety and success of so many areas of your life feel like they are on the line. I can see how much complex rationalisation he was putting himself through and how, at times, when 2 ideals clashed (eg wanting to please his wife when he felt "less than" in the relationship and wanting to please the fans even when he was aware it felt "off") and how he found himself simply accepting the unacceptable in order to get through that moment. Living at this level of constant psychological stress eventually becomes traumatic. Its too *much* to live with that level of hypervigilence. So I admire his ability to acknowledge his misdemeanours and accept them without making excuses. That must be an incredibly uncomfortable thing to have to turn and face publicly. I think this was a very good interview by Swoop. I hope Joshua is able to find peace within himself going forward because it sounds like he's been to hell and back.
@JoshuaDTV 9 ай бұрын
This assessment absolutely hit home with me. Thank you for taking the time to share it.
@TheMinimalistTherapist 9 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaDTV Joshua, you are so welcome. The hard therapeutic work you must have done was clear to me. I salute your bravery and wish you all the very very best in your ongoing recovery and post traumatic growth. Warmest wishes.
@joylox 9 ай бұрын
"...a thousand tiny cuts that no one sees..." That's so validating to my experience. While nothing related to this situation or that intense, I have struggled a lot with my experiences being invalidated because there weren't any big events in my life that caused trauma, but rather many repeated small things that happened as a kid. It wears you down, you get to a point when you're just trying to not make it worse, and hoping for whatever way out you can find. I can't imagine how much harder that process would be when you have fans looking to you, and so many more people in your life with expectations and their own ideas being shared. It's hard to stand up for yourself and your goals to move forward, but it's so worth it, and a big step in healing, at least it was for me.
@kobra4422 8 ай бұрын
That's very valuable comment. Abuse doesn't have to be this huge event(s). More often than not it's very covert that's why people get confused. If someone beats you society agrees that it's not okay. But other forms of abuse of power get off the radar. It's like it's possible to die from violent attack but it's also possible to die from hemorrhage that we don't feel. The result is the same.
@Ellie-vb9vm 7 ай бұрын
Wow this interview happened on my birthday, yo. Jeez
@KorinnaSimone 10 ай бұрын
This is probably the internets greatest apology. Real accountability, no downplaying the situation, no talking in circles, being honest and genuinely remorseful. Way to go, Josh. 👏
@burymewithabook 10 ай бұрын
❤
@lunamonetmonroe 10 ай бұрын
It’s very clear he has put a tremendous amount of work in on himself. His transparency & vulnerability in search of healing for everyone involved *absolutely* is admirable.
@JJhhh-wb6sg 10 ай бұрын
You have to be kidding. Both Colleen and him sound fake. He was married to her that long. I think neither one of them deserve praise. Everything he’s said is from his perspective with no actual facts.
@LizardKingRequiem 10 ай бұрын
@@JJhhh-wb6sgokay, then give the facts then. 😐 Right, you have none, nothing to add, nothing to say.
@darcy230 10 ай бұрын
@@JJhhh-wb6sgactually facts? Ok how is it not facts? Wth? And yh this particular situation is being said by his perspective BUT that's because Colleen won't even talk about it and he hasn't lied or manipulated any of what he has said.
@bbfrfr44 10 ай бұрын
This is everything Colleen’s apology wasn’t: transparent, accountable, articulate, humble, and not sung to the tune of a comically tiny string instrument
@mia-mf5xt 10 ай бұрын
Ikr, if Colleen did an apology video like this, I guarantee EVERYTHING would’ve been pushed aside by the next week and she would be making videos again by now. She really fucked herself over
@twildabuckingham 10 ай бұрын
Don't you mean "Cawlleen"? 💀
@mina_g10 10 ай бұрын
@ville__stop spamming mate Adam went thru so much, the videos 100% fake
@904funny 10 ай бұрын
He’s known “Ukulele Colleen” for far longer
@lindaferencik6791 10 ай бұрын
Colleen said her video WAS NOT an apology video. It was a video stating Adam and others were blowing things out of proportion etc. you know ... mostly for VIEWS - fame - money and attention. Ah, the Godlike power KZfaq has when cancelling someone. It helps all of the followers feel so smug, and that their lives have more meaning even though many times this judging action - saturates you in negativity.
@spiralflash6169 9 ай бұрын
The way he feels like he has to protect her is so indicative that he was the victim of domestic abuse. 😔
@hallegamingrblx 8 ай бұрын
Colleen is a proven domestic abuser. multiple witnesses on the colleen snark reddit said that colleen was physically abusive to josh constantly.
@cosmicredeemer3109 8 ай бұрын
That’s cause he is
@FocusedFighter777 8 ай бұрын
@@cosmicredeemer3109 That's what we are saying....
@FocusedFighter777 8 ай бұрын
More guys now are starting to know what this feels like. "Why didnt u leave" Why this why that etc. Usually it's women going through that BS. He went through the same process "its my fault", "but I love her" etc., but he wasnt the problem. The same women go through.
@cosmicredeemer3109 8 ай бұрын
@@FocusedFighter777 Did the Johnny Depp case not teach society anything?
@ellab2446 9 ай бұрын
2:23:12 the fact he immediately took your correction to what he was doing as racist and didn't even argue it for a second was so satisfying to watch. THAT is accountability; being able to admit and understand why what you did was wrong, but also listening to how it affected others and fully validating that. this was just one specific example but it's been displayed throughout this whole doc and it's just so refreshing to see
@molleirose 8 ай бұрын
You could see on his face how much he hated that he did it. "Racist, yeah" immediately grossed out by his own actions.
@vicki9298 7 ай бұрын
Yes
@JoshSweetvale 7 ай бұрын
You wanna be cool, be loved, be adored? That's how you do it.
@VeeVee_Edits 6 ай бұрын
I don’t think the video is racist tho? Check the comments of it, most people agree that at the most it’s a micro aggression. Just my opinion, please don’t come for me. 😭
@easonbrown7255 5 ай бұрын
Do you mean 2:22:50?
@haileygoff579 10 ай бұрын
“She’s got kids, she’s got babies” was so real. That’s what it looks like to truly care about someone, even after everything he’s been through. That’s real human emotion.
@Hinata8778 10 ай бұрын
I agree. That short sentence really made me feel some type of way. The sound of his voice was just so. Pained, because he knows how this will affect her kids since it's affecting her.
@rachellefebres4183 10 ай бұрын
She shouldn’t she doesn’t deserve them
@thefelicits 10 ай бұрын
It made me sad because she had no scruples about destroying his life. Still, it's good that she didn't crush his spirit and he's still capable of caring about even the worst people.
@yingyang2838 10 ай бұрын
For some reason even though I have been waiting for Colleen’s downfall this hit me the most. Josh has so much compassion for someone who ruined his life. Her kids are precious I would hate to think how this affects them
@undeuxtrois123 10 ай бұрын
The full responsibility is on Colleen, he has nothing to feel guilty for, he is allowed to speak up. Colleen was illegally sending and mocking Trisha's nudes while she was pregnant and even after she gave birth as A MOTHER. She didn't care how it would impact her children if it was exposed, if she did she wouldn't do that or her arrogant self thought she won't get exposed. She's a horrible, horrible individual and this interview really showed it
@taylorjensma819 10 ай бұрын
You have to realize, that Josh was a VICTIM of ABUSE. In this time, and in this world, he was told this was okay. No victim is a perfect victim. The thing that MATTERS is how he admits to doing this for money and views and because this was “normal” at the time and then follows up with saying “that was WRONG, and I wish I didn’t do that.” Period.
@Aldurtz 10 ай бұрын
This also reminds me a lot of what cults do by changing the environment and pushing boundaries little by little, acclimating the victims to certain situations where people get caught in the moment and end up doing things they wouldn't do otherwise, they don't perceive them as harmful, wrong, or inappropriate at the moment. People get conditioned slowly to stop questioning and assessing the situation and become willing participants. It's not right, but it can happen to anyone, especially when they themselves are in a vulnerable position or exposed to the conditioning for a prolonged period of time.
@bryanaperry8760 10 ай бұрын
Yes. As a fellow imperfect victim I really appreciate how he models taking accountability. This is WHY we learn to take accountability, it doesn't feel great in the moment, but it IS actually part of the healing journey. It is important to be able to say, "I fucked up. I did shitty things. Here's what I did and why I was wrong. And also, I was abused. And that is why my ABUSER is wrong and fucked up. And I am not going to be like them, and I am going to own it and make amends where I can." That is what growth looks like. I wish it were more normalized.
@rollerblaze5041 10 ай бұрын
@@Aldurtzare you familiar with Mike Rinder’s story and what he did in Scientology? He is doing the damn work dedicating his life to taking down Scientology. He’s held himself accountable in a big way.
@renfairegoddess 10 ай бұрын
@@Aldurtz yup. I've been watching Cults to Consciousness (here on YT), and your observations are very accurate.
@Elkura_xo 10 ай бұрын
I agree. It’s crazy being in an abusive relationship and being brainwashed especially for years it’s changed your whole perspective of reality. He seems truly remorseful and h love swoop but I felt some of the questions were harsh considering his circumstances. No hate to swoop I just felt bad for josh
@brooklynnbailey4356 8 ай бұрын
Every time I see a comment saying "Colleen is innocent" I report it for "misinformation" & I giggle a lil 😂
@bhargavipba 3 ай бұрын
😂😂
@nebula541 Ай бұрын
thank you for your important service to our society 🙏🙏
@okami_eddy Ай бұрын
As you should
@ladyhella7560 Ай бұрын
That's the pettiness I love XD
@adriaticirisjames 10 ай бұрын
As a recovering alcoholic and survivor of suicidal ideation and abuse myself, i have to say that watching Josh handle this interview with such grace, such honesty (flaws, bad past behavior and all) and such compassion for self and others was genuinely helpful to me in my recovery. Thank you, Swoop, for platforming someone who seems to be genuinely trying to be a healthier person and apologize for the hurt and damage he’s caused with past actions (such as the racist videos). He came off as a person who is willing to change for the better, to listen to others and to grow, and i have to say I’ve been in a dark place lately and watching this interview i felt that Josh was a role model to me in my own recovery from alcoholism and everything else. Thank you Josh, thank you Swoop and Team Swoop.
@zsazsamorte 10 ай бұрын
That’s beautiful. Wishing you the best in your recovery. ❤
@tallicagirl 10 ай бұрын
word. have a great 24 🕦
@Jettypilelegs 9 ай бұрын
19 years here, it gets better and better!
@Anna-ik6qz 9 ай бұрын
I hope you find all the inspiration to continue your sobriety and healing journey. You got this, always remember that ❤
@adriaticirisjames 9 ай бұрын
Thanks y’all 🥺
@CandySoulAndSoil 10 ай бұрын
The fact he didn’t go after her money, didn’t air her dirty laundry to grow on social media and just left to heal says all you need to know. I’m so sorry what you went through Josh! ❤
@SuperNuclearUnicorn 10 ай бұрын
I feel pretty confident saying that most people in his situation would have jumped at the chance to appear all over mainstream media, ready to the world that she was a manipulative asshole who not only constantly belittled you, but cheated multiple times and then used legal threats and her massive following to ensure you never told anyone The fact that he ignored requests from major networks that probably promised a decent payday and only sat down with a KZfaqr who has no reason to believe him, and who has made it extremely clear that she won't take it easy on him makes me think of a man with nothing to hide anymore
@craigharmon9494 10 ай бұрын
He couldn't support himself in his own talent? Hmm. Why not?
@hernameispekka_Rebecca 10 ай бұрын
@@craigharmon9494most people trying to work on entertainment can't. Not purely from being an entertainer. Not a him thing, a career choice thing.
@SimplyCheryl 10 ай бұрын
Exactly 100%
@hchau-222 10 ай бұрын
@ville__lol....
@SnowCat-nu7gj 10 ай бұрын
For the record as a queer person the advice he gave Johnny about not coming out is the exact same I would give in that situation. It is awful that we often have to live in the closet at times but survival comes first. Saying if you are not certain you would be safe to come out while living with parents do not do it until you can comfortably stand on your own two feet is the correct thing to say. Living in the closet sucks but it is better than living on the streets and in the worst scenarios it is better than being killed or assaulted. It is so gross to see that being weaponised against him. Saying make sure your safe first is the responsible thing to tell someone in that situation.
@kristajones7202 10 ай бұрын
THANK YOU! I've given that advice to queer youth still dependent on their parents, and I'm queer as well. It really sucks, but sometimes the closet is the safest place to be.
@sophiaec2607 10 ай бұрын
Same, I'm gay and have echoed similar things. Always safety first.
@hernameispekka_Rebecca 10 ай бұрын
I'm not queer (well, it's a whole thing I'm figuring out) nor have I been put in this situation, but this was my understanding as well. That the recomended steps are always first make sure you're safe, second make sure you have somewhere to flee to or a backup if things go sideways etc. Like... other than the "that's got nothing to do with me" kneejerk, his response seems textbook to the kind of advice you're taught to give.
@DavyThomas88 10 ай бұрын
You are 100% right - plus, sexuality is private, and people can come out, or NOT come out, to whoever they want whenever they want. Ain’t nobody’s business but yours.
@skylinesandturnstiles9595 10 ай бұрын
yes exactly, its real advice. kind of the basics at this point
@tallicagirl 10 ай бұрын
'Its not like that. He has a girlfriend.' Instead of 'We're married. I'm not cheating on you.'
@JoshuaDTV 9 ай бұрын
Yep
@tallicagirl 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for opening up. I've checked 99% of the 'wish I didnt have to go through that' boxes life has thrown at me that you talked about. Therapy and sobriety are pretty rad. Someday I'll find a supportive partner like you've found in Pamela. Have a great 24 ⏰
@Broeckchen 14 күн бұрын
Saying nothing will happen because the other person is taken rather than because the speaker doesn't wish to cheat or doesn't want them is always such a huge red flag.
@molleirose 8 ай бұрын
This, this is a man. He acknowledged his fuck ups, and owned up to them. He tried to keep the peace, and now even while speaking out, is still showing compassion for someone that put him through hell. I am genuinely proud of him. Im glad he's with Pamela, and i hope they're doing well. She seems very kindhearted. Im glad they're okay
@madeleinereads 5 ай бұрын
Same here. It's a shame that he is the only person in this situation who tried to take accountability, but I am glad that he has tried to take accountability to own up to his mistakes and the things he did wrong. I just wish that Colleen, Kory, Johnny, and Trent would do the same.
@caitlinbroome8519 10 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who doesn't think what he did "wrong" was even that bad. Seems like a good guy who was in an abusive relationship who was forced to go along with things because he was punished if he didn't. So he rationalized the situation and just assumed it was normal and what all the KZfaqrs did and behaved. Compared to what Colleen was doing and saying he really didn't do anything that bad.
@dariennedykes678 10 ай бұрын
100%
@LindseyDrennan 10 ай бұрын
Yeah especially the Johnny situation. This guy is acting like he recruited him into a cult of something, and is really putting a lot of expectation on Josh and what he should do for him which is kind of unfair.
@caitlinbroome8519 10 ай бұрын
@@LindseyDrennanright I just am getting to the johnny part . N as someone who was raised in a Christian church I can 100% see where Josh was coming from. I have seen that sorta thing before. I've seen people who give their number to "troubled youths" as they would say to try to be there for them in the hopes they would come be a part of the church and improve their lives and help them outta a bad situation. I feel like Josh had nothing but good intentions with Johnny.
@trae74 10 ай бұрын
Agreed 😅
@wingsoffreedom3589 10 ай бұрын
Me too even this music video sounds like a cringe skit racist is thrown around too much though I haven't seen it. Several of these accusations seem overblown.
@SarahGHilton 10 ай бұрын
“I want my life and I wanna protect it, my wife deserves it, my little dog deserves it” That’s so profound in a simple way, props to Josh for pulling himself out of the rubble.
@SimplyCheryl 10 ай бұрын
Report the spam
@11Christys11 10 ай бұрын
@ville__go away. Your name should be Vile
@PhoenIXPhantasies 10 ай бұрын
@ville__ Stop spamming fake news. And stop victim blaming! It's not tolerated on this channel.
@JayXDaggerErebus 10 ай бұрын
@ville__ Adam really needs someone to track Ville's IPS And sue him.
@ValentinoQ 10 ай бұрын
Lmfao his dog? How would it know? Dogs don’t even let that long 🤣🤣😂
@MorganInForm 10 ай бұрын
Josh is a classic example of the frog in boiling water. If you slowly raise the temperature it will boil alive without noticing. Josh's mistakes were so minor compared to the scale of this yet he was one of the most destroyed from it. I'm so glad his name is finally being cleared.
@DareShowPodcast 8 ай бұрын
Yeah we didn't need 20 minutes on each detail when basically said he played along to get along.
@cosmicredeemer3109 8 ай бұрын
Just like Johnny Depp in the defamation case.
@BeeKayy13 8 ай бұрын
@@cosmicredeemer3109 im a big fan of JD but they both lied so much during that court case. She just went waaaaay over board and messed it up for herself so bad 😆
@cosmicredeemer3109 8 ай бұрын
@@BeeKayy13 Johnny ain’t lie. Name one time he lied? I’ll wait
@izzatihassan1475 8 ай бұрын
@@cosmicredeemer3109 yeah this reminds me of Johnny Depp's court case. Esp the part on 1:18:10 where he said colleen told Shane Dawson that Josh got violent during their honeymoon and Shane spread it to other YTbers. man, I thought hey she's exactly like Amber Heard!
@kaemincha 9 ай бұрын
You can tell Josh has put in the work towards his recovery. People in recovery are some of the most strong, in-touch, truthful people I have ever met.
@ladyhella7560 Ай бұрын
I can't even imagine recovering from this. At the start I was like: How bad can this be; and quickly passed to OMG, what is this. And listening him saying that he just normalized it and he regrets doing it, it is so conflicting. I clearly have the explanation, but damn, this stuff is indeed hard to listen and I can't imagine growing up and finally realizing how fucked up it is.
@sunnyjim1223 10 ай бұрын
The fact that Joshua didn’t air her dirty laundry and still doesn’t wish her ill AND takes accountability for doing gross stuff, owns up to his blind shops, and shows personal growth . . . that’s the internet apology we’ve been waiting for. All you need is a little integrity and perspective, no grey hoodie or anything.
@JohnGardnerAlhadis 10 ай бұрын
Grey hoodie?
@vincentbardai1096 10 ай бұрын
@@JohnGardnerAlhadisit’s a joke that a lot of influencers will put on a grey hoodie in apology videos as a way to make themselves seem more down to earth (like wearing the usual expensive clothes would make them seem super disingenuous). “Grey hoodie” is just like a synecdoche for “bad apology video” like “big sigh” and “leaving in your turning on/off the camera”
@JohnGardnerAlhadis 10 ай бұрын
@@vincentbardai1096 Ah, gotcha. Thanks!
@yalebowles30 10 ай бұрын
@@vincentbardai1096or like in 90's sitcoms where the adults would sit on a chair backwards to seem hip with the kids.
@michewi 10 ай бұрын
It's like not a fact though. It's action. Don't go confusing the two. An action can be calculated a fact is also calculated and then hypothesized on and then recalculated and then reevaluated etc. Body language is not a science
@chickinskinz 10 ай бұрын
This is the most sincere apology & taking of accountability that I have ever seen on KZfaq. There was no victim blaming, no “I’m sorry, but,” no pussyfooting around. Josh was in depth, explained how he came to where he was wrong & genuinely owning up to his actions. It’s not easy to talk about let alone open up on the level he did. I commend u, Josh. We’re standing with u.
@sarboee77 10 ай бұрын
I love that I'm not the only person that still says "pussyfooting around" haha
@chickinskinz 10 ай бұрын
@@sarboee77 the use of the term has definitely dissipated lol
@louis.p808 10 ай бұрын
To me the best (to the point of noble and overcorrection) is Jenna Marbles’, but this is great too.
@trinitybernhardt9944 10 ай бұрын
She didn't show him any mercy either. I totally understand why that was necessary, but it was hard. It is hard not to try and defend yourself when someone comes that hard, even if you are sorry, but he was ready to take accountability. I admit I wasn't familiar with him before, so I didn't know what he was gonna be apologizing for. I think he has grown up and I hope he can leave this behind and find peace.
@C0nejaa 10 ай бұрын
@ville__boooooooooooo
@user-bj7em4fv1p 9 ай бұрын
Kudos to Swoop for being so compassionate and professional. Having a crisis counselor on set should be industry standards in this type of interviews.
@apocketfulofprose 9 ай бұрын
I have such respect for how you handled this interview, Swoop, and the fact that you had a crisis counselor on hand speaks volumes. Also, I want to echo what other commenters are saying about how much work Josh has put in. I have so much respect for that and where he is at right now as well. I wish him the absolute best for him, his mental health moving forward, and his family.
@KinseyTaylor-gm4lg 9 ай бұрын
Agreed. Nothing but well wishes to him and his family, too. This video made me want to just give him a friendly hug. Like, uh. 😢But I hope either Josh will see this, or not, but know that we hope he can move on (But not forget) to a better future. And happier.
@susanstevenson3532 10 ай бұрын
This took guts. In an era of buzzword, pr-machine-non-apologies, how utterly refreshing and human to hear someone admit, “I knew it wasn’t right, but I was selfish and was benefiting from it and didn’t want to lose that.” I hope this man can now enjoy the peaceful life he fought for.
@boricuabeautykk 10 ай бұрын
And the way that he fully accepted each incident. Like, he said, "It was in London," before she even said she thought it was in Europe. He didn't try to hem and haw like he didn't remember the situation but, rather, owned up before the question was even done. And his very upfront, "I was selfish," was extremely refreshing in the Era of non-apologies.
@dings7301 10 ай бұрын
@ville__god damn I've seen this comment so many times stop it
@Jaxxxxxxxxxxxxxy 4 ай бұрын
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@sallyostling 3 ай бұрын
I'm? Bn
@bernienelson8926 10 ай бұрын
It is so refreshing to hear this level of accountability. When Swoop says, "this behaviour, which you were involved in, was really inappropriate and disturbing," and Josh answers with, "you're right, it was unacceptable and should never have happened. I'm ashamed that it did." No, "well, you don't actually understand the situation." No, "well, I was a different person back then." No, "well, I didn't know any better." Josh is giving us reasons so that we understand, but no excuses. He's being grilled like a well-done steak, and he is not flinching. This is what accountability looks like.
@lenaboyer6981 10 ай бұрын
doing an interview like this and speaking with such clarity and awareness requires both self-esteem AND humility, which is probably why we see so little of it from public figures. idk what exactly he worked on in therapy but i commend him for it because it shows
@carolineculbertson878 10 ай бұрын
Also, can we give it up to Swoop for holding his feet to the fire with such direct, even pressure and unshakeable composure? It is not an understatement to call her the Gayle King of our generation 🙌🙌🙌
@lenaboyer6981 10 ай бұрын
@@carolineculbertson878 I’ve seen few interviewers who are as thoughtful and level-headed as she is, it kinda blew me away.
@christiekeller1252 10 ай бұрын
Sñ Jo
@alim.9801 10 ай бұрын
@@carolineculbertson878 she's fantastic. She seems very fair, she offers great questions, and she seems to actual care about people and her craft. It's cool to see
@sunnysideup1218 9 ай бұрын
The way he took accountability for his racist video was by and far the best response to allegations of racism I've ever seen. I really appreciate the work he has done to better himself.
@beautyandbrainz 7 ай бұрын
He didn't even have to apologize for it because it wasn't racist. It was a parody on how rap music and music videos were at the time. People were able to enjoy parodies like this back then, but now people are so quick to get offended and call people racist.
@sunnysideup1218 7 ай бұрын
@beautyandbrainz or. Perhaps we always felt this way and you just weren't privy to those conversations. I promise many of us have been clocking that shit and having conversations about it for a long time.
@inyourwifi 6 ай бұрын
@@beautyandbrainz Uuuuh. Unless that's not you in your profile picture, you appear to be white. Us saltine sisters don't get to decide what is racist. Swoop is a black woman telling Josh that that video is racist. Full stop.
@JakeKoenig 5 ай бұрын
What racist video? That video wasn't even close to being racist. Black fragility is really getting out of hand.
@The-Triumphant-Truth-Talker 4 ай бұрын
@@beautyandbrainz "BaCk iN MY dAy blurgblurgblurg"
@orpheuseleven3047 10 ай бұрын
So, I missed part 3, so my jaw hit the floor when Johnny fully just victim blamed Joshua for being trapped in an abusive relationship for years. "He had every opportunity to leave." Okay, go walk up to other survivors of domestic abuse and say that.
@pinkminipuff 8 ай бұрын
Johnny has definitely shown himself. I don't want people to go at him, but he is rather creepy to me. He has the clout-chaser disease and seems like he had a unrequited crush on Josh. Definitely stalker activities were performed by Johnny. After listening to all these interviews, that is my opinion on Johnny Silverstri. Swoop and her team have definitely earned my views. These are professional, raw, and unbiased docs.
@pinkminipuff 8 ай бұрын
So yeah, the victim blaming sent me reeling. I've heard it so many times before from people who have never experienced being a victim of abuse.
@ladyhella7560 Ай бұрын
@@pinkminipuffwhat bothers me more is that I was not noticing how fucked up we're the things he was saying until Swoop pointed it. It really freaked me out
@shanr6270 10 ай бұрын
Honestly I don’t really see Josh being at fault for much.. but the accountability he takes shows he is a fully evolved, self aware, high emotional intelligence individual. This is more rare than I think people realize. I hope him and his wife have peace and can continue their lives without interruption
@rat6508 10 ай бұрын
I agree I thought some of the “grilling questions” while I agree… seemed to be reaching in ways. This is Colleen’s shit… and he seemed to have been sadly tied along to it… and despite that he took accountability.
@Cairo198 10 ай бұрын
why does Josh have to apologize for making a rap parody? should Weird Al apologize for "white and nerdy"? Should Jon Lajoie apologize for "Regular everyday normal guy"?
@registeredjopper 10 ай бұрын
@Cairo198 yeah, no. the internet is just kind of obsessed with making people apologize for anything.
@miamaru414 10 ай бұрын
@@Cairo198the rap parody isn’t even uniquely offensive or anything. it’s just making fun of stereotypical things you see in rap music videos.
@Lawam12 10 ай бұрын
Agree, lots of reaching.
@pmac5445 10 ай бұрын
I’ve never believed the garbage being spewed at josh for years simply because Julien and Jenna took his side during the divorce. That spoke volumes to me. And now we finally get to hear his side and it’s heart breaking. It completely aligns with everything we have been hearing about Coleen. She sounds like such a nasty mean girl
@sunandstorm 10 ай бұрын
In a world full of Colleen Ballenger’s, I wish there were more Jenna Marbles’ 😢. I’m so sad she removed herself still but I absolutely understand why, especially if this was the culture behind the scenes
@snowytits 10 ай бұрын
Can you tell me how they took his side? I didn't know about colleen or Josh at the time so I didn't see what they said or did that was taking his side
@nabishie 10 ай бұрын
I remember either on one of his vlog or on the j&j podcast julien mentioned about hanging out with josh sometime after the divorce happened
@FIRING_BLIND 10 ай бұрын
Oh shit I never knew that
@reallyreaally 10 ай бұрын
I have to say I agree with you. I had watched Jenna grow up on this app and I know her heart to be true. I know that if she cared for Joshua then he was righteous. This hurt my heart to see the pain he was going through and is still going through. I wish him healing and a beautiful future.
@-eight- 9 ай бұрын
Near brought me to tears more than a few times. That is what real accountability looks like. So proud of him for even being brave enough to set foot on the stage after everything he went through, but to handle it all with such compassion and humility and honesty is mind blowing. He’s clearly done the work and I hope this goes a long way towards securing the peace in his life that he’s worked so hard to carve out. Also, it broke my heart how earnestly he thanked you for being the only one to even listen and be fair to him in any way publicly. Because you WERE fair and impartial, and you took him to task for the things he did wrong. So many people would take that wrong, thinking that if you’re not all for them then you’re against them. I think there is more than one person involved in this very case that would think that way. But he was just so relieved that you listened to him without completely demonizing him. That said a lot to me. It also said a lot that taking accountability for his own wrongdoings was easier for him than speaking the truth of his experiences. It speaks both to his character and the ongoing trauma that he’s experienced. My heart goes out to him and I wish him well.
@toericabaker 9 ай бұрын
41:55 And she was on our bed.... playing the ukulele" I.. SCREAMED.
@ladyhella7560 Ай бұрын
I am starting to think it's the only way she knows how to "apologize"
@frodogabbins 10 ай бұрын
I'd like to acknowledge and praise Josh's directness. He doesn't try to shirk ANY responsibility. He directly said yes that was racist, or yes that was wrong, while also apologizing for the hurt he caused and the wish he could retroactively change things. This is how you take accountability.
@karenholmes6565 10 ай бұрын
I am so glad that the response of most people is to support Josh. The only innocent victims in this world are children. And abusers know this. It is easier to DARVO an imperfect victim.
@animec-dramaskpop6362 10 ай бұрын
I support Josh 100% and appreciate that he didn't even try to make excuses for it. Ppl have said and done things that they will never repeat and so have I. Nobody is perfect but hopefully everyone is willing or open to growth and change.
@Elkura_xo 10 ай бұрын
💯
@zaramikazuki8374 10 ай бұрын
@@karenholmes6565 Same - especially in his case. His situation has so many shades of gray, especially considering his own power dynamic and abuse under Colleen - but even despite that, he acknowledged that he still had some agency, made his own mistakes, and took accountability. I hope he continues down that path and I wish him and his wife well.
@Chelle8847 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely. It almost made me emotional in parts of this interview, just because of the way he totally took accountability and apologised, and truly meant it. He was so direct, to the point, and also very well spoken, very clear with his words. We just don't see this type of accountability happen very often, which is a sad fact. I do hope Josh is able to move on from this and I'm so happy that everyone seems to be in total support and have respect for him, and i really hope he can sleep better at night knowing that the truth has come out and he doesn't have to fight anymore. The abuse he dealt with while he was with Colleen is sickening, and the whole John thing just makes me so totally infuriated. Those two are just absolutely disgusting people, and it's almost scary to find out/see the manipulation that both of them are capable of. I do wonder about Eric, what does he think about all this, or is he just totally complicit? I guess we'll never know!
@user-oi9ej8bk4v 10 ай бұрын
it’s clear that josh has worked SO hard on himself and to overcome the trauma he’s endured. major respect
@LynetteTheRogue 9 ай бұрын
I feel like there are not enough conversations around people who do the work and become better people. That not to minimize the real harm their actions cause but it is so refreshing to see someone who put in the work and willing to take accountability rather than bury it in denial
@shannonlaforme8344 9 ай бұрын
@@LynetteTheRogueI couldn’t agree more. These days there are not enough people putting in the work, all we get are cringe internet apologies. For those who put in the work and are genuinely better people, there’s not enough recognition or forgiveness.
@Exorcist364xs 9 ай бұрын
@@shannonlaforme8344 I know he went along with bad things. But the abuse he went through my god, my heart just breaks for him. There are not enough men who come forward with mental abuse or just abuse in general. He obviously feels terrible and he has had to had an enormous amount of therapy. I believe him, I had never heard of these two until recently. That woman Colleen is pure evil. It takes a very strong person to admit to have gone along with things they knew were wrong but seeing how broken down he got it’s not unbelievable how he allowed it to happen. Sorry if I keep going on but this just hurts my heart.
@cosmicredeemer3109 8 ай бұрын
Am I noticing parallels with Johnny Depp
@madeleinereads 8 ай бұрын
Yes. Josh did not deserve all the hate that came his way. Also, I respect Josh for trying to take accountability. Like Swoop said, unlike every other adult in this story, he is the only adult who is speaking up and is willing to take accountability.
@stephaniepapaleo9001 9 ай бұрын
Wow. I’m in tears. “It’s not your responsibility when…sharing your story” that hit home for all of us who were victims of any/all types of abuse. To hear the honesty from this man and then listen to how he still feels the need to almost protect her, just floods back the memories of wanting people to think my relationship is fine.Everything is fine I’m fine mode. That toxic train video was never meant to be an apology video. Swoop, you covered this not only as a journalist but as the advocate you are, your psych/social knowledge and compassion shines thru. I’m so glad Josh got the chance to share his side. Nikki did the best thing to slide over that phone so he could see the manipulation in black & white. ❤
@teresacondon 9 ай бұрын
This man is showing emotional intelligence and is a great example of someone who has taken the time and turmoil to turn his life around. Rising from the ashes is hard. Taking accountability is hard. I commend him for his honesty and wish him nothing but healing from here on out. This was the best possible ending to this chapter of his life.
@gaywaterfrog 10 ай бұрын
Colleen LOOOVES to say that she “took accountability.” No girl, you didn’t. THIS is what taking accountability looks like. Saying it exactly like it is- straightforward, no sugarcoating, no euphemisms, vague allusions, or dancing around the issue. Acknowledging the full weight of your actions. Offering no excuses. Being human, I expected Josh to do at least a little bit of rationalizing or trying to wiggle out of the worst of it but, nope. This was so incredibly refreshing and I can now say with confidence that I have all the respect in the world for Josh. And Swoop, as always: your professionalism, research, insight, and empathy puts most major news outlets and even journalists to shame. KZfaq, there’s a new sheriff in town 💅🏼
@JenniferKelly6669 10 ай бұрын
This!!!!!❤
@bellerian9896 10 ай бұрын
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@MyDestinyDear 10 ай бұрын
If there is one can thing say about him, from the experiences of a reformed formerly awful person, the only way you can put yourself in a position so low you’re willing to admit the worst things about yourself, is because you have done the work. Because you have thought about it without the prompting of another person because you’re in some sort of controversy. It’s really hard as a human to admit you’re bad. It’s like our brains are wired against it.
@chloeeeezy 10 ай бұрын
YASS! SHERIFF SWOOP! Here to shine light in the dark spaces, but more importantly to provide a safe space for everyone to be honest with themselves and those they've hurt.
@NicoletteFajardo 10 ай бұрын
Bet it's harder to come clean when some of the stuff you did could actually possibly land you in a freakin jail cell and registering as a pedo for life... which is the one thing she probably isn't, ironically. She really put herself in a great spot all around.
@SirenAngelique 10 ай бұрын
I literally cried when he was talking about Colleen disrespecting his boundaries like it was just "playful" and you pointed out his body language. Seeing people minimize their trauma while their body is trying to be as small and safe as possible always breaks my heart. Thank you for helping to give ALL victims the voice they deserve
@averyjasper 10 ай бұрын
“Seeing people minimize their trauma while their body is trying to be as small and safe as possible” oooof. I felt that. I’ve described my abuse as trying to fit into an ever shrinking box. Yeah. That sentence hit different.
@rikkirikki4892 10 ай бұрын
@SusNation90why are you commenting this everywhere
@Jess-on-the-Tube 10 ай бұрын
@@averyjasper funny you should say that. For the whole "give me one word to describe how this made you feel", in the space of silence where I was looking at Josh & trying to second-guess his answer, the one that came to me was "he feels small". Small & afraid & completely uncared for, and I don't know how Swoop managed to keep her game face on through some of that. 😥
@Dani-Claw 10 ай бұрын
@SusNation90Cope and seethe
@cloudedey3s582 10 ай бұрын
I definitely had to take a moment when that part came up because my abuser used the same excuse. And because I was so young and all I had ever known was how he treated me, he was able to get away with extreme physical abuse but would say he was "just playing" so i grew up thinking i was wrong for not liking playing around bc it was what were kids supposed to want. I still have days where I cannot fathom why I ever thought these absolutely horrendous things were okay, but because they were dismissed as being playful my entire life I normalized it my whole life. It's an excuse that can really fuck with someone's mental health in the long rung
@leafyveins4985 10 ай бұрын
Swoop, I was so impressed by how you handled this interview. You treated Josh with such grace and respect, including having a trauma counseler on set. I hope the best for all the kids involved in this, and Josh, and Pamela, too.
@askadena10 6 ай бұрын
Swoop takes abuse very seriously. That was obvious to me from the first five mins of watching a video from her.
@loraleiffxi 8 ай бұрын
Please give Adam a virtual hug. He lost his cat today, only months after losing his other one. He's really gutted right now and in a lot of pain. :(
@chibi_rabbit 8 ай бұрын
I really couldn't care about his social impact on the internet. However, the loss of a furry companion is brutal, and I hope his heart heals. Rip to his cat. :/
@savl29 10 ай бұрын
God, his pain is palpable. You can see it in his eyes throughout the ENTIRE interview. My heart goes out to him and Pamela.
@taraderosa2969 10 ай бұрын
Mine too. He’s worked so hard to put his life back together. I sincerely hope he and Pamela can live in peace.
@fadalerabrasool3563 10 ай бұрын
I saw it especially around the part where he discusses the extent of colleens nastiness towards him. Colleen is such an evil person where no one who she has hurt has forgiven her. Honestly I agree what she has done is unforgivable and ireedemable
@spreadlove5771 10 ай бұрын
You can hear the therapy he went through
@savl29 10 ай бұрын
@@spreadlove5771 YES!! That too
@fadalerabrasool3563 10 ай бұрын
@ville__Yeah yeah whatever. Choo choo the toxic gossip train
@milkhoneyandkisses 10 ай бұрын
This is textbook 101 narcissistic abuse. It still instills fear years later. Poor Josh. I’m so glad people like Colleen are getting what they deserve. They most often don’t.
@ckbb7536 10 ай бұрын
As a survivor of a narcissist ( was raised by one), I agree with what you said. That fear never goes away
@CBrown86 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely! 💯
@lilyth682 10 ай бұрын
Making him feel guilty or in the wrong because he found out she was talking to another man...like whaaat
@lindseystein9676 10 ай бұрын
Seems like covert narcissism, to me.
@lindseystein9676 10 ай бұрын
Ok now that I’m listening to a bit more, sounds more like she’d switch between covert & overt narcissism
@acidpoptartxx 9 ай бұрын
Can we just talk about how kind and reassuring swoop is? I have never seen an interviewer be so compassionate and poised. The way she carries herself is just beautiful.
@uzamakiforlife5554 3 ай бұрын
It seemed like she was scowling at him most of the time
@aidan-mrtl 3 ай бұрын
@@uzamakiforlife5554 that's just her resting face 💀 and she generally has to remain impartial and professional to some extent
@uzamakiforlife5554 2 ай бұрын
@@aidan-mrtl nah I’ve watched several videos. there’s a difference between rbf and scowling
@inkassosjefen6315 Ай бұрын
@@uzamakiforlife5554i agree. She doesnt usually look at abuse victims like you would look at the leader of a murder cult, like she does to him.
@carolinehottz3 6 ай бұрын
Mad respect for Swoop and the team for working their butts off to ACTUALLY portray the truth. Mad respect for Josh for not defending his wrongdoings but instead acknowledging it and taking REAL accountability AND changing his behavior. It’s so rare to find and it’s truly beautiful to see someone who went from rock bottom to living his truest life.
@ThatCaliCrys 10 ай бұрын
Why is nobody saying it? This man was STALKED. Showing up at your job (no matter the state/city), one sided text/DMs, strong armed into meals/coffee, weaponizing his loneliness for sympathy and having your family do the same.. If a man was doing this to a female co-worker HR would have him fired. PERIOD.
@kleaspeedful 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. Sounds like Johnny felt entitled to his time. So weird to think that. He was a superfan that was stalking Josh and Colleen.
@chicagodoll 10 ай бұрын
Im glad im not the only one who sees this!
@wldncrzy1971 9 ай бұрын
Josh was absolutely stalked by a fan who was obsessed with him and who felt like he was the most important person in the room: Johnny. His entire demeanor is so far above Johnny, and so completely opposite of Johnny’s arrogance and attention-addicted performance, it’s stark. Johnny is the creepy fan who feels Josh was too ordinary for Colleen, but should have chased Johnny so he could show Josh that he could worship him if he took him along for the fame. Johnny is repulsive. Josh is a human being who messed up and has real remorse and hurts from his past abuse…but can you imagine what his life would look like if Johnny got his talons into Josh?!? Yikes! He definitely escaped that dumpster fire! Nice to see Swoop interview a grown up. Johnny acts like he’s 14 🙄
@lynnmartin5804 9 ай бұрын
100% and gotten a restraining order!
@DystopianOverture 9 ай бұрын
Yeah agreed. He was stalked by Johnny. I do find it weird that so many people ignored that fact. Johnny is scary.
@Astaraea 10 ай бұрын
I'm so glad he was honest and said "no" when you asked if he forgave her. There's a misconception that you have to forgive your abuser to heal. You don't. Forgiveness is a personal choice and if the person who hurt you hasn't earned your forgiveness there is nothing unhealthy about not giving it to them and you shouldn't feel any shame for not feeling like you can.
@Chef.Excellence 10 ай бұрын
Yesss. My abuser has never shown a lick of sincere remorse and so I don't think she's owed any forgiveness. Like I don't sit around and stew and focus in on it, I don't wish harm on her, but that person wronged me in ways that have affected and derailed my entire life. I am allowed to be angry or resentful about that occasionally.
@shinakohana 10 ай бұрын
It took me a long time to accept this truth… My gran kept telling me to automatically forgive everyone who hurt me. Why? For self peace? Because you said it will help? No. It didn’t help and I will never forgive some people…
@vixa__J 10 ай бұрын
THIS^^ as someone who has cptsd and doesn’t believe in forgiveness this is so important. I will never forgive the people who have hurt me, they chose to do those things it wasn’t a mistake, it was a choice. I feel so intense empathy for abuse victims
@kittymilkyyy 10 ай бұрын
Honestly thank you.. i was told i needed to forgive for my own sake but i can't. Those scars are too deep. Itll be worse to forgive
@kennyl4699 10 ай бұрын
Forgiveness is - and always should be - an option that the wronged/abused party chooses if they feel like they can do so and want to do so.
@noemigal1922 10 ай бұрын
He was much more honest than I thought he would be. I really feel sorry for him about all the backlash he had and of course about the abuse he had to endure. I'm glad he is recovering and now he is in a healthier relationship. The world would be a better place if everyone could act like him in these kind of situations. Thank you for the interview! It was much different than we usually see online.
@katiek.5614 10 ай бұрын
“He wants to be man to man… I don’t think he understands what that means. Because a man doesn’t do what he does.” LITERAL CHILLS 👏👏👏 3:24:39 Edit for exact wording.
@UP-ww9si 10 ай бұрын
This is possibly an unpopular take but I’m so fucking happy Josh said he doesn’t forgive Colleen. I’ve always felt that way about forgiveness and when people say “you owe it to yourself to forgive them” or “forgiveness brings closure.” You do not owe people forgiveness and not everyone deserves it. I fully believe you can be happy and move forward in your life while still carrying standards for yourself and sticking to what you believe is right. I have an ex from almost a decade ago who means nothing to me anymore, I’m very removed from that chapter of my life, but I still to this day don’t forgive how she treated me. And I feel confident moving forward while carrying that choice.
@_SunscreenQueen_ 10 ай бұрын
YES! You don’t owe forgiveness to anyone. I refuse to forgive my abusive ex. I don’t constantly carry anger with him he just simply doesn’t exist in my brain
@joakuz 10 ай бұрын
THANK YOU!
@Gingermermaid90 10 ай бұрын
Yes, this !
@frogonwall 10 ай бұрын
Yes!! Thank you! I feel this way too. I've never felt like not forgiving someone was holding me back
@meag_ken822 10 ай бұрын
Yesss ❤
@BleedingGrafitti 10 ай бұрын
Josh is the perfect example of what a legitimate sincere apology from an influencer looks like. It takes serious guts to admit what you've done wrong to the world when many others would just squirm and twist things around to make themselves look less and less bad.
@allyfrankhouser 10 ай бұрын
@ville__there is something very wrong with you for trying to profit off real victims.
@YourLegalGuardian. 10 ай бұрын
@ville__ stopped reading at "uncool"
@relatablewhitegirl5700 10 ай бұрын
Not to mention he has had the time to sit and reflect and work on himself. Colleen and johnny haven't done that
@maggiekarabel123 10 ай бұрын
This was brave.
@PatchedUpTwice 10 ай бұрын
Unlike most “apologies” which usually boil down to someone parroting “I was in a dark place and made some mistakes,” Josh is someone who truly was in a dark place. But he really took an unflinching moral inventory of his actions, and with the help of therapy and Pamela (who sounds terrific) he pulled himself back up into the light. And there’s none of that “I made a mistake” crap; Josh admits when he did something wrong and why he did it. Too bad the other adults in this sordid story - especially Colleen - are unwilling do the same.
@amyrose2760 10 ай бұрын
This was.... flawless. The amount of accountability. I have so much bloody respect for this man. I don't care what anyone says. He's human. Just a human trying to do better. Thankyou Josh.
@ckw039 10 ай бұрын
Josh is definitely one of the rare ones who you can genuinely tell is sorry about what he did & CHANGED his life around and has taken accountability. Major respect. I hope Josh finally gets his peace & healing. Swoop, thank you & your team for showing 100% truthful & accurate research.
@athena6653 10 ай бұрын
I am beyond impressed by how composed he is. He has been accused of horrific things, his name and reputation wrongly dragged through the mud, been told he is even worse than his abuser. Yet he has so much grace and maturity. I wish him nothing but the absolute best.
@kanachanwhisper7174 10 ай бұрын
I think he has really grown as a person, also therapy helps to put a lot into a perspective.
@sagew1312 10 ай бұрын
It's clear he put a ton of work into who he is as a person. He laid everything out on the table and didn't (for the most part) hold back. It felt more like a call in than a call out.
@brandienicolle9738 10 ай бұрын
@ville__ You didnt prove anything, i saw your half ass made video
@nikki4803 10 ай бұрын
Especially knowing how scared he was to do this as he stated more than once
@Seevawonderloaf 10 ай бұрын
I agree. I don't think i could have taken this calmly
@emmicah7720 10 ай бұрын
For everyone reading this who's watching the video, please keep in mind there's no such thing as a perfect victim. He can do bad things and still be a victim. Sending love to all of Colleen's victims. Edit: my comment is directed at Josh primarily. Children, including Adam, never have responsibility in what happened to them, which is why they are considered the "perfect victims." Already on Twitter (X), there are comments of people asking "Why didn't Josh leave if he was so afraid of Colleen? Why did he marry her? He must've been ok with what she was doing since he stayed." Fear is a very powerful motivator, and I don't think some people understand this. It is fear like this that kept me trapped in a marriage for 11 years, that kept me from (still to this day) outing my groomer, that kept Adam from coming out sooner, that kept the other victims from speaking up sonner, and fear that keeps countless other victims trapped in abusive situations RIGHT NOW. Because victims don't act or do things in the manner that some of the general public thinks they should, those people will then use that justification to undermine victim's stories and credibility, which is wrong. This is why I said my comment to begin with. Just because Josh didn't react perfectly, doesn't mean he isn't a victim. May everyone who's dealing with abuse or grooming in their own lives find a way to get to safety, and find some semblance of healing, however it looks to them. My comments and DM's are always open if any of you need to talk ❤❤
@JNMKlover 10 ай бұрын
I would venture to guess that the reason victims engage in some bad things, is because too much has been heaped on them is spilling out
@NooralainMirza 10 ай бұрын
I agree , when Johnny first came out with his story I believed him and I was going hard on josh , but I’m really glad swoop has opened up the truth for us 🤍
@alinaserizwimasekophiri1708 10 ай бұрын
I think there is a perfect victim in some respects
@Thisisnotmyname0116 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely, other than children this is so true and is used in therapy. No human is perfect and victims deserve to be seen as a whole being and not just the good or bad.
@J97736 10 ай бұрын
Of course he is a victim. He’s not perfect, but he’s a good guy. He is a victim.
@drunkmythologygals 10 ай бұрын
Kudos for having a counselor on set. That’s truly thoughtful for the HUMAN sitting there, with all his flaws and strength and honesty on merciless display.
@miss_nobodys_eyes 9 ай бұрын
At 1:39:04 I love and personally appreciate the acknowledgement she gave Joshua. I really resonate with his experiences of online harassment and bullying and his ways of coping. This is the first time I've watched SWOOP and the fact that she showed compassion proves this isn't like any other online gossip channel. I'm unsure of the interviewer's name but THANK YOU for being humane. You can see how much it meant to Joshua
@sevhells 10 ай бұрын
This is the rare example of actual apology. No "ifs", no "buts", no "I was hurt too and that exonerates me". The acknowledgement of "yes, that is racist". "I didn't see it at the time, that action was wrong." The quality of person Josh has chosen and chooses to be under circumstances I wouldn't even wish on his ex... it's astounding. Also, the example of how all interviews into deep personal topics should be conducted. The goal is truth, the careful wording and presentation of each question, the team of three people still going through the expense of having a trained counselor, ... the SWOOP team is becoming my golden standard.
@michewi 10 ай бұрын
I feel insane from this comment. I feel like all I heard was "because"
@1221sabmur 10 ай бұрын
He’s so dismissive of everything he’s done. Tons of back walking
@drownzi 10 ай бұрын
@@1221sabmurwhere??? he’s owning up while still explaining why he thought it was okay at the time.
@michewi 10 ай бұрын
I'd love a video editor to take this video and put every response with the because but since I'm not a video editor, I can't show this easily
@jakechartrand7308 10 ай бұрын
Bullshit. He’s the ONLY one taking any kind of responsibility. He was destroyed. He is the definition of the better person.
@archanamajumdar3341 10 ай бұрын
Can't imagine how difficult it must be to publicly admit to things you feel shame over and genuinely own up to it and apologize for it. Amazing interview.
@KittyCat22976 10 ай бұрын
I have been thinking the same!! I’m so glad he felt with Swoop a Safe Space to bare his soul. Truly Amazing.
@e_aa518 10 ай бұрын
same, this was such a vulnerable thing to do. i think it shows swoops character that he was so open and honest - she much be a very welcoming and kind person.
@KinseyTaylor-gm4lg 9 ай бұрын
I have lower I.Q. Then Colleen (I have an invisible disability) But my gosh, at least I can understand right from wrong and take accountability and apologize. That will take me much further in life probably. I don’t want to say anything for Colleen, or shame, but I just want people to take that in. Yikes.😬
@KinseyTaylor-gm4lg 9 ай бұрын
@ville__uh, Ok. 😕 Want to finish typing the end colon?
@lilyflower0616 9 ай бұрын
I think this is an AMAZING show of “getting swept up in the wrong crowd”. Him coming on camera and saying, “yes, I did these things, there really is no excuse for it, I will never do it again.” Is SOOOO brave. Facing all of those allegations against him and admitting with maturity is profound. It really speaks volumes to his character and regardless of all stories, we see you for that. Amazing interview Swoop. Sending some love to you.
@lunaticpandora1452 9 ай бұрын
IDC what anyone says I've survived very similar abuse and I'm proud of josh for the courage to speak on all this. U can see in his face,eyes, and body language that he isn't lying. Proud of you bro and happy your alive sober and in the world still ❤.
@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 10 ай бұрын
1:15:40 Hearing Josh that he was so happy about having “new vows just for them that no one else could hear or see” just tells me how much he craved at least some privacy I can’t imagine having a wedding for the whole world to see online. It doesn’t feel intimidate at all, it feels like a show
@Hi-vr3kd 10 ай бұрын
to be fair he vlogged down the wedding aisle and posted his own daily vlogs. i think he liked the online presence at the time but the real issue is her treating him terribly off camera so he was happy that she seemed genuine during that private moment
@snake.puppet 10 ай бұрын
@@Hi-vr3kdshe made him vlog down the ailse
@anja6548 10 ай бұрын
I think I remember this. I think it's really trashy to post your wedding like that.
@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 10 ай бұрын
@@Hi-vr3kd "to be fair" where was I unfair? Any way, I said it shows he craved at least some privacy. And that's a sad existence. If he was completely happy with the way things were on the filmed wedding, why would he be so excited about this other opportunity? We make the choices that seem the best at the moment, we compromise, we adapt. Doesn't mean it's actually god for us in the end, it's still sad, the lack of privacy, when you look at it from the outside. Everyone who has the compulsiveness to post everything online and publicly - to me a sad situation looking from outside even though they might feel like they're happy with that choice. Seeking that kind of validation is never a healthy thing. Even if the emotion at the moment is joy, it's an empty kind of joy, an addiction, always looking for more. It's just sad
@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 10 ай бұрын
@@anja6548 Trashy is a pretty elitist term, but any way I am sure it was good for the views. At least they were adults, and, maybe coerced into it, but still have some semblance of consent
@WindyHorse2662 10 ай бұрын
As a Midwestern born and raised person when Josh spoke about it being normal for an adult mentoring a child or young adult, that's 100 percent true. I was a part of a group called Big Brothers Big Sisters and that was the whole premise of the group. It was completely innocent in my experience as a youth and an adult. This whole interview felt very honest to me. Thank you both for this!
@CasacaraDFP 10 ай бұрын
Yup! I was a big sister in the program years ago and it was such an amazing experience. The mentality of looking after younger ones still stands with me, ESPECIALLY after becoming a parent myself. I get that there was a bit of a power dynamic in this situation and if Josh was just a random person, it wouldn't have escalated the way it did, but I believe Josh when he says his intentions were good.
@aina3387 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I grew up about 2 hours away from Josh and although he's not Christian anymore, he always gave me "youth pastor" vibes and I'm sure all he was trying to do was be a mentor like had been modeled in his life.
@musicmary1331 10 ай бұрын
As someone who also used to go to Youth groups same
@Prairie_Gypsy 10 ай бұрын
I actually brought this up in a comment, stating that big brother and big sister, Boys and girls clubs, etc. Will all get a bad rap due to grooming allegations where there was in all actuality a need for these programs and an important for children.
@unicornL 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@allison_haze 4 ай бұрын
You can tell from his body language that he is scared and from his words that he's used to making himself small and downplaying his wants, needs, and issues. This makes me so sad to see.
@black__phoenix 8 ай бұрын
this is honestly one of if not the most honest public apologies and acknowledgement of taking accountability like truly the most open transparent and respectful video i’ve seen coming from someone with a public platform and is truly refreshing thank you so much to SWOOP and the whole SWOOP team and thank you Josh for being so brave and i wish nothing but love and healing towards you and your family
@morganmann5366 10 ай бұрын
I understand Josh did some messed up things but how Colleen treated him was AWFUL, I’m horrified.
@J97736 10 ай бұрын
He was not as nearly as bad as Colleen or her ‘minion’ fans at the time. He didn’t deserve any of the treatment he got.
@morganmann5366 10 ай бұрын
@@J97736 I agree, she removed his agency, the fear in his eyes is so telling of what he has seen, heard and experienced.
@OpalLeigh 10 ай бұрын
She really weaponized her power advantage from being famous 🙄 poor guy never had a chance. And she did it on purpose.
@krivasn 10 ай бұрын
Forgive my ignorance, but what did he do?
@Sammy84_ 10 ай бұрын
What he did is called surviving and that comes along with flaws, not inhumane mistakes. It is mind-baffling how he has been treated. What a chest game she plays 🤮
@taylawithan_a 10 ай бұрын
A masterclass on how to take accountability. Never seen an influencer straight up be like “yes I did this, this is why, it doesn’t excuse it and I’m sorry”
@Leviasas 10 ай бұрын
What really makes me believe him is even before part 3 was up, he took accountability on everything but still say "hell no, I may have hurt johnny but I don't deserve being called a groomer." If it was an apology tour he would have taken the blame and just be over with, but no he's here to tell the truth of everything. Not being the punching bag, not trying to make money, just being himself, with his mistakes and his victories over addiction and depression. Honestly I believe him entirely and I think he's a great person. A true masterclass of honesty and bravery. I hope he can be happy in the future in his little bubble he fought so hard to create for him and his family.
@ColleenDaumen2 10 ай бұрын
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@Siberius- 10 ай бұрын
Ethan Klein's apology to QT Cinderella got a perfect apology rating by "Psychology In Seattle". The GOAT of apologies. Josh is a close second though. I think his appearance in this video will be valuable for a lot of people who see it.
@FukaiKokoro 10 ай бұрын
Psychology in Seattle has flaws of his own he's not taking accountability for. Doesn't he push betterhelp on people? I used to enjoy him alot. But started getting off vibes from certain things. Dr. Kurt seems okay but again I feel something is off with him sometimes. Idk the Ethan like thing wasn't great. He only apologized because Hassan is bff's with QT. To me that kinda invalidates that apology. Because I don't think Ethan would have apologized if not pushed to. That's the difference. Josh is introspective and came to this on his own time. Ethan is usually pushed to apologize and feels like when a parent makes a child apologize and they don't know why they are apologizing.
@Siberius- 10 ай бұрын
@@FukaiKokoro - Literally the only videos I have seen from him were the Ethan ones. It's just pretty funny overall. Ethan genuinely apologises for a plenty of things, he's grown a lot as a human, long before Hasan ever came on board for sometimes 1 show a week. Ethan's path has been really cool to see. Ethan's apology was also nothing like forced apologies. Forced apologies never have the level of self reflection and honesty that Ethan has. Among other things, like recognising and stating what the underlying issue was, showing understanding of WHY the person is upset by the actions, addressing personal behaviour that isn't okay and why it isn't okay and why it's a thing in the first place, etc.
@SeaBlueJay 2 ай бұрын
I love how he keeps clarifying that just because it felt normal, doesn't mean it was okay. So many people use things being "normal" at the time as an excuse to not take accountability, to not apologise. Just because it was normal, doesn't mean it was okay and I really appreciate Josh making that clear every step of the way in this interview.
@charlotrisch5138 9 ай бұрын
I have a feeling Johnny had a huge crush on Joshua. When Johnny realized Joshua didn't have romantic feelings for him he decided to destroy Joshua. That's only a theory I have.
@bleukettu4521 4 ай бұрын
I've thought the same thing for a while, mostly because I saw an almost exactly similar situation play out with a friend. Unrequited love can be a hell of a drug.
@chocolateb0nes403 10 ай бұрын
So many times we completely ignore men when they are abused. You did such an amazing job interviewing him and being respectful to everyone impacted. This sort of thing is so important and I'm very glad to see everyone seeing Colleen as the abuser she is.
@FukaiKokoro 10 ай бұрын
I think this whole thing with Adam and Josh is shifting culture and I'm very glad. This story opens up a way to talk and discuss it. If anything positive comes from this it's that we take ALL victims seriously.
@LatIenws 10 ай бұрын
👏👏👏 a little louder for the people on the back I can tell an abused victim when I see the interaction in relationships , I seriously think his case went so unoticed and was so unfair. Our male victims need our attention too.
@thisiscait 10 ай бұрын
Thankfully it's getting far less common where we ignore abused men. At least here in Australia.
@memethingz6004 10 ай бұрын
Moids don’t care about female victims so I won’t care about them either
@animec-dramaskpop6362 10 ай бұрын
I think what's most important is that this shows the toxicity of fandom and how attacking ppl shouldn't be viewed as a show of support from fans or the general public.
@AmandaMuse 10 ай бұрын
The part when Josh explains becoming desensitized - he nails it. When you only have "yes" people in your life, your vision gets distorted. This is a very interesting interview.
@MinaXo18 10 ай бұрын
Yes, absolutely. Trauma and abuse will also have you believing that certain toxic and bad behaviors are normal. For example, a kid growing up in a physically abusive household might believe that's how all households are, and might start being violent themselves, mimicking what they saw growing up, until they learn that's not normal.
@TJMalana 10 ай бұрын
You end up having tunnel vision and that’s a very hard thing to overcome.
@jayjayjohnson777 10 ай бұрын
same trap elon musk is in right now. He has been surrounded by yes men for so long he just does whatever
@bernienelson8926 10 ай бұрын
Also, when going along with certain things is the only way to stay with the people you love, it can be very difficult to go against the tide. It does start slow, with you conceding small battles that don't really seem to matter too much, until you're fully conditioned to just go with whatever the leader of the group is pushing, and you honestly don't even check in with your own morals anymore because they'd interfere with you being loved and accepted.
@MinaXo18 10 ай бұрын
@bernienelson8926 Yes! Very, very good comment! Sometimes, we go to great lengths and become people we never would have imagined we'd become just to stay with the person/people we love.
@kelliintexas3575 10 ай бұрын
Josh has ALWAYS BEEN AUTHENTIC. It's why Colleen chose him. He was perfect to help her reach FAME. VIRAL STAR. He could sing, perform, had GREAT on camera presence, wasn't afraid to be on stage, HE WAS A PROP for her tween "fairytale" image. Once his replacement showed up... he was "phased out".
@humanoide7076 4 ай бұрын
Classic narc
@ghostsontrains7629 9 ай бұрын
i love that he doesnt excuse his actions but explains the situations and stories that lead up to the actions and taking accountability for the fact he did those actions even with the lead and that he was trying to rationalize it. him explaining what lead up to the things he was apart of also shows the dangers and how these situations can happen and allows parents to understand how to avoid it
@Subtitles_Addict 10 ай бұрын
It’s awful that someone who has been abused is taking accountability for his abuser. I think it’s more complex than him just participating or being complacent. When you’re abused, you don’t really see choices. Your response patterns are altered. Your sense of self has been erased. And decision making is based on the abusers wants and needs. There are so many victims in this story.
@emmaharris8815 10 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more, some of the wording in this had me cringe, he clearly didn’t want to go against here wishes with her shows and I am sure everyone felt like they had to just go along with it to keep the peace. He shouldn’t have to apologise for being involved when he wasn’t the only one, he was her husband so I am sure he didn’t feel like he had a choice to say “colleen these jokes are messed up” without causing himself a great deal of issues at home when they were alone. No one truly knows how he felt in the situations he was forced to be in. It also sounds like the adults around her were walking on egg shells due to her rudeness so maybe it was just easier to go along. She is very messed up and it’s really saddening knowing the trauma she has caused to josh, and so many young impressionable children. I hope they can all heal from this.
@emmaharris8815 10 ай бұрын
The wording of swoop, not your comments just to clarify
@KairiMorin 10 ай бұрын
THANK YOU!
@wowjennawow 10 ай бұрын
he claimed responsibility for his part and it honestly feels like swoop was trying to make him take accountability for all parties. those actions don’t just become normal to you - when you’ve been worn down like this, you start wondering if those actions are really as bad as you thought they were. you’re convinced your opinion isn’t worth anything so you doubt your perception of reality and do what you can to keep the peace. he’s owned up to his mistakes and worked to better himself which is all we can really ask for
@spacepirate9275 10 ай бұрын
This is so true in my opinion.
@rachel.wallflower 10 ай бұрын
SWOOP is hands down one of the best interviewers I’ve ever seen. The fact that she made sure a certified crisis councillor was ON SET while she interviewed Joshua is absolutely amazing. As a trauma victim, I thank you for taking our feelings and experiences seriously and for showing so much kindness
@anaalicia5029 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, that’s a rare kind of professionalism on KZfaq
@madisonrose1576 10 ай бұрын
🥺🥺🥺
@JNMKlover 10 ай бұрын
I feel like many of the Josh and Colleen fans from that era, need a therapist. When someone is influential in ur daily life, u become part of their circle. The breakup was likely truly upsetting to fans. Seeing people in pain, hurts me. When celebrities die, I feel pain for their families. And for the people who cared for them, and how the death will affect them. Joshua has a private life now. he didn't have to lay this out there, but he also did. Because if there r Stans and maybe even his ex wife herself that start to put things on him, he should explicitly share whatever he saw and was involved in. I believe every word he is saying. We expect nothing less from Swoop, but the fact that she does comfort, and stands up to evils, and champions those who need her.
@thesingerintheshower 10 ай бұрын
UH-MAZING!!!!!!
@ZionDoesMakeup 10 ай бұрын
Frrrrr like she should be an guidance counselor or an counselor in general cause I'd go to her cause ik I would be heard and listened to
@mandygoodwin4744 10 ай бұрын
Watching him call her violation of his personal boundaries playful broke my heart.
@GhostyBug 9 ай бұрын
I feel like I fully understand the feeling of “normalizing” harmful things- just a few years back I was doing the same thing, telling myself “no it’s fine cause I’m a minor” or “it’s fine cause it’s not harming anyone” but it was, it was harming people and it was harming my own mental health. It’s so easy to just tell yourself that something is perfectly fine or ok when it’s not. The only way you can truly move past it is by apologizing, taking accountability, and changing/getting yourself help. I genuinely feel like Joshua has changed and it’s not often I see people genuinely make an effort to do that.
@JoshSweetvale 7 ай бұрын
I always assume that the people who hurt others for a hard-on or some dollars will _never_ regret what they do. It takes a fundamental soullessness to habitually hurt others. You're rare. I wish your self-awareness was common. But it ain't.
@rachelw5865 10 ай бұрын
Over a million views within 24 hours and it's Joshua sharing his story. Over a MILLION people have heard his story. Truly a moment of beauty rising from ashes (something good coming out of such a horrible situation). Sorry Colleen, all power is lost and you're stuck with your own inflated ego.
@AshleysPZ 10 ай бұрын
👏 ONE MILLION people have heard his story. Whoa. That sentence is so impactful.
@kaseypb 10 ай бұрын
@ville__plonk
@krzysiektr6 10 ай бұрын
@ville__ get lost.
@karowalker5254 10 ай бұрын
@ville__painu vittuu
@bee1411 10 ай бұрын
@ville__ Are you alright? I’m sorry you’re in this still. :( It isn’t too late to make friends who don’t use you in this way.
@TheHahafunnyguy 10 ай бұрын
20 minutes in and I didn't think I could respect Swoop any more than I already do. Having a trained crisis counselor on set is SO telling about how much Swoop respects and values mental health of anyone, regardless of their story.
@jenniewalker6651 10 ай бұрын
@@rachelw5865 I hope you don't mind if I offer a perspective about why I think it was good that she did mention it. Firstly, it is an open acknowledgement that she had someone on set for Josh, and people who might want to attack her for making these documentaries and say "oh she talked to him for seven hours straight and he might have said things out of [negative emotion]" are given the knowledge that there was a neutral party that could advocate for him. I think it's also a way of demonstrating a level of what to do for others that want to make docuseries in the future. If you're going to have a sit down interview with someone who has allegedly gone through an abusive situation, she helps set a bar of "this is something you should do." She does often include quotes from those in the interviews about how good and respectful she is at interviewing, but I do think that it shows others who might want to get into the field that this is a good way to make your interviewee feel comfortable while also asking hard questions.
@ohreally1997 10 ай бұрын
The "crisis counselor" is hysterical. I'm glad Swoop's investment in those optics is paying off. Imagine gaining clout from having the equivalent of a Mental Health First Responder on standby.... for a youtube interview. The WWE vibes sent me. Someone like Dr Phil is required to have crisis counselors available to his guests to appease the production liability insurance underwriter (especially as his psuedo-theraputic premise really makes his billion dollar production company/studio vulnerable to lawsuits), but to announce the presence of a crisis counselor in this context is truly just a matter of optics. Not saying Swoop doesn't genuinely care about mental health (she obvs does), or that the subject matter isn't difficult/traumatic to rehash (obvs it is), but how is a crisis counselor truly going to assist Josh on the spot? What ACUTE mental health emergency is going to arise that it's necessary to have a CRISIS counselor on standby? Are they going to walk Josh through an emergency guided meditation if he starts to have a panic attack or what? I mean if you really think the concept all the way through, if it's NOT just a matter of optics for Swoop, if it's genuinely that she thought a crisis counselor was a necessary safeguard, is this interview even ethically responsible? If you're about to knowingly conduct an interview with a 39yo adult that is potentially SO emotionally compromised (ie the trauma is so triggering, lacking the coping skills necessary, etc) that he may *realistically* need an emergency mental health intervention during the course of the interview, doesn't that make the entire premise just a little problematic?
@hernameispekka_Rebecca 10 ай бұрын
@@ohreally1997 I disagree. If he gets triggered and has a mental health crisis, that might be something this person can handle better. But also, the biggest part is that this person would be able to advocate for Josh if they felt he was not able to himself. He alluded to isolating himself and we don't know how his trauma shows itself in his health. Having a neutral party being able to step in if Swoop gets carried away or miss something, or someone to make Josh feel more comfortable speaking up if he needs time.
@ArDeeMee 10 ай бұрын
@@ohreally1997 Is this you basically complaining over someone providing a box of tissues in case tears start happening?
@meggisamachine 10 ай бұрын
I'm a therapist in training and I think it's amazing that she has a mental health professional on set.
@rachf9695 9 ай бұрын
Good for him! He doesn't owe him a phone call. But when he said his wife deserves it, his little dog deserves it, but he never said he deserves it.... glad he had a chance to tell his side of the story. Everyone deserves a chance to grow and redeem themselves and it really feels like he genuinely has worked hard to be a better human. "You don't have to be perfect to do the right thing" absolutely 100% TRUE!
@viviansouza7188 9 ай бұрын
Very proud of Josh for being so forthcoming, and taking full accountability for his actions. Also, you can tell a lot about his character, with the simple fact that he did not go after her in the divorce. I'm so glad he agreed to do this interview.
@jennydinh13 10 ай бұрын
Can we just appreciate the transition from Johnny’s “This was my ticket to success, my ticket to happiness, no one could take it away from me…” to Josh’s “Johnny, my whole world and career crashed to the ground. Where was I gonna take you? What did you expect me to do? There was nothing to take you to.” All without even hearing Johnny’s interview. I couldn’t help but giggle a bit.
@indiashante1560 10 ай бұрын
Right lol
@mia_abfab 10 ай бұрын
Same lol
@jasminv8653 10 ай бұрын
Really speaks to how instrumental and deluded johnny's view of josh as a person was, also clear in the way he's since been hell-bent on punishing him for not giving him what he wanted.
@Ashbrash1998 10 ай бұрын
That rung out to alot
@ZijnShayatanica 10 ай бұрын
The difference in character from what Johnny believes to how Josh actually presents himself is startling.
@elizabethgarcia6651 10 ай бұрын
The fact you have a crisis counselor on set tells me all I need to know. Thank you SWOOP! I wish more people would treat sensitive topics with such elegance and grace.
@frosty_teacup 10 ай бұрын
So professional! I'm very impressed by the production quality!
@Samuel-ku1qb 10 ай бұрын
She truly took the situation as seriously as was needed and that's very admirable. Though, I voiced this before but I just wish she wouldn't have been so dismissive when he answered questions about the bad things he'd done. Like the reaction to his answer about the racist question put my own ptsd in fight or flight mode. If she could at least pretend better in future interviews and maybe talk about it after she may become one of the best youtube-interviewers to date.
@Stormstorm1 10 ай бұрын
Yes! I thought that was extremely considerate and professional.
@lfrands 10 ай бұрын
At the end he says that she “handled him with a care he hadn’t experienced in years” ❤
@Stormstorm1 10 ай бұрын
@ville__ "I'm better than Swoop" Signed, A legend in my own mind.
@ashmac87 7 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the fact that you have a trauma specialist on set! I'm so glad that everyone is becoming more aware of trauma and how it affects people. ❤
@bxthechx8336 6 ай бұрын
How is this not reaching a bigger audience? This changes everything for me
@user-unfriendly_-o- 10 ай бұрын
As an lgbt person i absolutely would say the same regarding coming out to your family. YOUR SAFETY COMES FIRST. You don't owe anyone "the truth" and if you want you can just never tell those people who could be dangerous to you. They didn't make you feel safe or seen, they don't deserve to know everything about you.
@nuffyj8614 10 ай бұрын
That was one of the moments of the interview that made me uncomfortable. Swoop kept trying to dig in with 'Johnny did seem genuinely hurt by how you reacted,' as if this was an accountability moment when Johnny has proven multiple times that he won't take an apology; he'll just use it as ammo to say, 'Look he admitted he did something terrible to me. I'm the victim and he's a monster!' Maybe Johnny did take it badly, but he's not looking to heal. Nothing helpful would have come from Josh apologizing...again. "Wait to tell them until you feel safe" is not bad advice from an outsider.
@user-unfriendly_-o- 10 ай бұрын
@@nuffyj8614 i think if Swoop feels that it isn't her place to judge we should let her just show us Josh's statement and see how people react. Coming out is a sensitive issue and I think that it's normal to not wanna speak on what is okay or not as a response. Besides, when that interview was filmed, Swoop didn't know how deep the lies went and I'm kinda glad that we have Josh on record explaining that situation and his intentions so we can discuss it with full context.
@nuffyj8614 10 ай бұрын
@@user-unfriendly_-o- I do think the topic needed to be addressed - we needed both sides of the story. But, to me at least, the way it was edited did feel like there was a bit of judgement toward his answer. We didn’t need the ‘I’m just gonna let your answer speak for itself.’ It would have anyway; including that was just a way to comment while saying no comment.
@ArDeeMee 10 ай бұрын
Josh‘s answer was so extremely important here. Especially on YT (probably other socials as well, but I‘m not on them), there is this notion that you HAVE to come out, or else you’re just pretending. Sooo many comments from teens who got kicked out by their ALREADY abusive parents. I mean, wtf did you expect happen? Only ever come out to people you can trust. If you’re not sure, then don’t. Preserve your physical integrity. That’s the very least you deserve… ❤️🩹
@snowytits 10 ай бұрын
@@nuffyj8614 yea as a gay person I feel like what's more harmful is johnny weaponizing his coming out to attack someone. It wouldve been irresponsible for Joshua to tell a teen to do something that could possibly put them in danger and/or leave them homeless. Which is a thing thats happened to teens who come out. Joshua did the right thing based on what Johnny told him
@ragdoll3745 10 ай бұрын
So as someone who was raised Evangelical Christian I can 100% confirm that children were encouraged to have older mentors in my church, especial in Middle School/High School. I consistently received texts and met with a 35 year old woman who would overshare about her fertility journey and marriage. I was 12. At the time, she was my spiritual mentor and I was a "mature" "empathetic" young "leader" in the church. Now? Dude, I would NEVER talk to a 12 year old the way she spoke with me. It was just my "normal" and I remember thinking about how I looked forward to mentoring other young women once I matured and grew. Glad that's not the direction my life went. Not excusing Josh's behavior but man that stuff messes with your perception of exceptable age boundaries. edit: oh wow that's a lot of people, I didn't expect anyone to care!!! Religious Trauma, that goes far beyond the mentorship experience, is a very painful and prominent part of my life and I'm on a life long journey of healing. I'm not going to be able to read the rest of the comments for my own mental well being, but to every single one of you who carry similar grief and trauma, and commented your experiences you are so seen, and so valid! Your stories matter and deserve to be voiced, so I won't delete the comment. My greatest hope is that we can find peace. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@ThisIsMeMorgan 10 ай бұрын
So true.
@sarahkane380 10 ай бұрын
Relate so much and can confirm this is exactly how it was in my church up bringing too. From the age of 12 or 13 on I was actively befriended by adults who mentored me, including COUPLES who way way way over shared their intimate lives with me. I thought it was normal. Now I think it’s bizarre and scary.
@sykogurl05 10 ай бұрын
For sure! I felt close to and trusted my youth pastors there was a time when one of them told us not to hang out with one of the other kids, because they thought he was a "bad" one. And another pastor had a conversation with me about my bf alone in a room downstairs, and only now can I see that I should not have been in the situation or having that conversation with him. He should have found a way to talk to my mom if he was so concerned, but he really just wanted to talk to me about the note I wrote to my boyfriend at 13 lol that man is a stranger to me now. How weird.
@HaidebugCreates 10 ай бұрын
Yeah fr real
@catherinetomes4025 10 ай бұрын
I was thinking about Evangelism while watching it too! It’s so normal in that community to have women mentor girls and men mentor boys. I remember it being an “honor” to be able to get asked to be someone’s mentee.
@MuchAdoAboutADD 9 ай бұрын
Josh seems like such a genuinely good-hearted person. I also grew up in a super conservative family and community, and I also had to spend years and years of unpacking and unlearning extremely racist and troubling behaviors and thoughts. It's so hard to look back on that past, but I'm proud of me and Josh and everyone else who has taken the time to unlearn and grow and do better. It's not something many people talk about, and I know it's because it's so embarrassing and unbelievable to know that we talked and acted so horribly. So it's so weirdly cathartic to see someone else talk about their experiences with that growth. Thank you, Josh. I really wish him and his family all the best.
@KinseyTaylor-gm4lg 9 ай бұрын
He seems like he cares about people (That are kind to him)
@JoshSweetvale 7 ай бұрын
@@KinseyTaylor-gm4lgExactly. He's still cheeefully a bigot if it gets him eyeballs.
@tonyadutoit4762 9 ай бұрын
This man is so brave for speaking up and being so transparent. Genuine emotion being shown and you can see he has learnt so much through his life.
@megs3019 10 ай бұрын
Josh is 100% a victim. It was normalized to him by colleen. Not making it okay but he doesn’t deserve this hate or the word groomer what so ever. He was and is a victim and I’m so beyond happy that he got his voice and was able to tell his story. Colleen is disgusting and karma is beautiful
@animec-dramaskpop6362 10 ай бұрын
It was normal in general back then bc nobody was having these conversations then and plus regular ppl becoming influencers and gaining fans was new ground for all influencers. Of course there's the obvious things that you just don't say or do around young fans regardless but ppl weren't talking about parasocial relationships back then the way they are now.
@NaturalMonroe 10 ай бұрын
The only people in this situation that are 100% victims are the children.
@MackyAttack 10 ай бұрын
@@NaturalMonroeJosh is a victim too, not the same kind as the kids. But he is.
@Kay-wp8xf 10 ай бұрын
@@NaturalMonroeI think putting percentages on "victim" hood is problematic because it's like saying someone is less valid. Victims are victims, period. Doesn't mean that people are perfect, even victims, but it does show people are still victims.
@megs3019 10 ай бұрын
@@NaturalMonroeage doesn’t matter if your a victim or not.
@dirtduct 10 ай бұрын
One of the true heroes in all of this is Josh's wife Pamela who helped him pick up the pieces of his shattered life and help him out of the hole he was in. As a man who also was fortunate to find a woman who did the same for me after my first marriage. I can say without reservation how important it is to find someone who will support you through thick and thin.
@CreativeCreatorCreates 10 ай бұрын
My ex is a narcissist. My current helped me heal from him and it was no easy feat. He took on my three kids as well. There truly are angels that walk the earth. Blessings ✨
@saixenophase 10 ай бұрын
Massive credit to Josh as well for allowing himself happiness, allowing others to help him and help himself. Such amazing team effort on their part for growing as people and living such a peaceful life before Johnny dragged his name through the mud. Edit: to the original commentor and others who went through a similar thing, you also deserve so much credit for your growth and stability now :> 🫶🫶
@Mo-fx2lo 10 ай бұрын
Yes this, I kinda got goosebumps when she said she spoke with her because as noted she rarely gets properly respected or acknowledged despite also being affected, it was lovely to see her perspective and support of her partner through it all platformed in such a positive way 🥹
@CrystalCat24 10 ай бұрын
Yes! She seems like a wholesome and amazing human. ❤❤
@spencersmith6071 8 ай бұрын
How Josh described his relationship with Colleen reminded me of both how my mother treated me/made me feel growing up and my first and only relationship. That kind of treatment really messes with someone, its something I personally don’t think I will ever fully be healed from and ever really talk about. It would be really hard for me to even describe and talk about it so I really appreciate Josh being so open about it. Im sure a lot of people here knows how that feels. I also appreciate how respectful and honestly just the genuineness that Swoop puts into these sorta deep dives. Its just endlessly refreshing to see someone working hard to get the truth with no bias. Seriously just thank you Swoop for your dedication
@v25467 9 ай бұрын
Colleen DID NOT deserve this lovely man. I hope this marks a turning point for him and that from here on out he can move forward without the weight of her & her threats burdening him & dragging him down. He deserves a future free of her & the pain she brought him, best wishes to him if he reads this
@caitlinpowell9010 10 ай бұрын
If someone comes into this comment section and says that Joshua David Evans is NOT a victim of domestic abuse, rethink your opinion and perspective. This man is scared of her. This man who used to love her and tolerate her, is scared of her. This is a prime example of Domestic abuse. I'm glad you added these segments to the doc, Swoop. We needed to hear it.
@CaBobProductions 10 ай бұрын
The present fear that you can see throughout the interview has been one of the most striking things. That's raw, long lasting trauma.
@thebjm1967 10 ай бұрын
Yes. Amen! He was/is a victim of narcissistic abuse. I am going through it right now and it’s absolute hell.
@emilybunney6163 10 ай бұрын
@@thebjm1967wishing you all the best in your healing from that, it’s such a hard situation
@theblackschaos 10 ай бұрын
Exactly, and his life, his LIFE AS HE SAW IT; ended. I’m so happy for him he was able to get therapy and move forward and has an amazing life he deserves now with a wonderful woman, but I get it. When you are actually LOYAL and UNCONDITIONAL, and you love someone so much, that’s your LIFE. You can tell he married her for the RIGHT reasons that marriage is. She is just a narcissist evil person. I really do hope she can change and get therapy and also im hoping she can set a good example for her kids. Makinf fun of people behind their backs etc, wow….. that’s just gross. I would pray no one makes fun of her kids or treats them the way she has treated people around her in and out of her life. Please Colleen, get therapy! And be a good human. Change! Take accountability!
@nedradonnpickens 10 ай бұрын
It’s so sad to me that someone can be scared of their partner!! That should be your safe place!! So sorry Josh.
@zoedujour 10 ай бұрын
Holy poo. I respect Josh so much after this. THIS is an apology. THIS is accountability. No wonder they didn't work out. He acually has compassion and a soul. Go live your life, man. I wish you, your amazingly graceful wife Pamela and your tiny dog the best.
@madisonkay_yay 10 ай бұрын
Yessss 🤍🕊️
@Jujudeze22 10 ай бұрын
Riiiight? This was the read I had in him when first took accountability last summer.
@shelleyconnolly8452 10 ай бұрын
So eloquently put ... you said everything I wanted to say I wish him a lifetime of peace
@SuzieJaneBlues 10 ай бұрын
“Holy poo”
@user-fs9bn4we6k 9 ай бұрын
I hope he actually watches the support he is getting here, he talks so sincerely... his hurts so deeply ans it shows, he understands the "pain" and people might not understand, but he is a victim but he also takes accountability. Its incredible how he talks about the bottom at his life and how he fought and keeps fighting for his life and his beautiful change as a person. He is so brave!
@thewanderingorphan 9 ай бұрын
This had me in tears so many times and screaming cheering your strength with the traumatic obstacles you’ve hurdled. I started audibly “yassing “ to the point my Dobermans were barking at the doors. On a serious note, thank you for the kind words you put out towards survivors of any sort. I survived an ex who r-ed me and tried to end my life. I now run a small support channel for survivors and their families. You took on and shared the same issues I struggle with (it never goes away) with more strength and composure than I am able to at this moment. I’m crying again. Happy tears. Grateful ones. Thank you. More than anything: THANK YOU. 💯⭐️❤️ if you ever need a small circle of people who are thriving after survival, you’re always welcome amongst myself and my gold stars
@maryamsheikh7597 10 ай бұрын
Taking accountability can be seriously F***ing hard sometimes. Huge round of applause to Josh for actually stepping up and doing the hard work. Talking about conversations like this can be so hard and triggering and he spoke about it with such grace even after EVERYTHING. This is truly what growth looks like on a human being and I wish nothing but happiness and prosperity to Josh and his wife in the future ❤
@natarshagunter 10 ай бұрын
not just that - he proved that it's possible to take accountability as a high profile person AND that taking responsibility for your actions is well received by the public. Colleen and Kory should be taking notes right now
@EmiFromMars 10 ай бұрын
Agreed, he took genuine accountability for his part. He was manipulated used and replaced... huge props to him for doing this interview
@DyslecticAttack 10 ай бұрын
Definitely. I had a handful of moments where I'm like "the way you word that doesn't seem like you've completely grown out of that or taken full accountability for how bad it is", but he did better than I probably would with my own mistakes. He seems very intent on being better, but also doesn't shy away from not knowing all. He acknowledges not only his past shortcomings, but also his current ones. He also primarily seems to want people (including himself) to be able to heal, and to that purpose wants to be very accommodating and reassuring in what happened, including his part in that. So yeah, he at the very least earned my respect in how he is dealing with this, even if it isn't perfect, it does seem sincere.
@citlalyhernandez5408 10 ай бұрын
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@HonorWillow 10 ай бұрын
@@us_embussy3785 he's apologised constantly and he did talk about people's he's victimised
@thisisavivistanaccount7866 10 ай бұрын
honestly i was ready to side eye Josh. But seeing how brave, transparent and open he was changed my mind. He genuinely apologized. no “i’m sorry,but” “i did this but”. He owned the mistakes he’s made and did not repeat them. There were deeply uncomfortable and hard moments where he looked awful, yet he still was open. He needed to tell his story, i’m glad he got the space and platform to do so.
@LuxLoser 10 ай бұрын
@SusNation90 Lol what? We have literal evidence on Colleen, and she's refused to give any statements or offer countering evidence.
@TheRoobster 10 ай бұрын
@SusNation90I don't think Colleen's receipts add up... just sayin'.
@clown2672 10 ай бұрын
@SusNation90 not only is there evidence she HERSELF has admitted to some of the allegations. This is not a situation where there is no evidence. There is a lot of it and there is a lot of victims.
@dreamysol 10 ай бұрын
@SusNation90 be serious, there is literal evidence. also colleen admitted to some of the allegations. idk why you and that other troll here are trying to invalidate adam and the victims but screw y'all.
@serenitea2435 10 ай бұрын
@SusNation90 Oop. Look y'all we have a blind Colleen stan on the comments section!
@jenniferjeffries83 10 ай бұрын
I’ve watched Joshua grow since 2009. I love seeing the person he has become and am so glad that he has Pamela as his angel who also happens to be his wife. To hear him being accused of being a groomer is absolutely disgusting, because I know that is not at all who he was or is, regardless of growing pains that we ALL go through as adults. We all make mistakes, but it infuriates me that anyone would ever suggest that he was inappropriate with minors. Joshua has always had a good heart. This interview was heartbreaking for me to watch, but I’m happy to see that Josh finally got to tell his side of the story! Thank you for your unbiased interview!
@allylandry3818 9 ай бұрын
Agreed. Best character arc in this whole ordeal. I hope he finds some peace.
@kekejo1527 9 ай бұрын
@@allylandry3818seriously though, and I hope that he loves himself a little more, and not to blame himself for every adult who was their.
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