And none of them do that. College in the US is a scam

🧢🧢🧢the only people who say ths are trust fund babies lol, even dr's and lawyers aren't making all that much money in today's world millenials and gen z are living off inheritance not labor. Most higher education not living off their parents money got hella debt and the salaries haven't gone up with the inflation & cost of living.

Yes - going to college for 4 years to major in hook-ups and beer pong will not likely result in much of a career boost, and may leave the students with a $80K debt to pay off as they work stocking shelves at CVS.

And the job market is changing, so the skills of a job is different. Most jobs are online now. School teaches you absolutely nothing on this. Nothing.

Right? lol "College Professor says college is good". 🤡 Totally no bias there.

Exactly. Just b.s.

Same

Lots of people argue this point until they spend years in minimum wage jobs or earning “a living wage”. Then they capitulate usually later in life & earn a degree ANY DEGREE in order to make just that much more. I e seen it play out repeatedly at my job. People will argue for years against college & when they can’t advance they pick any off brand university to earn a 4yr degree rather than earn little pay. Also college isn’t going anywhere.

Yes - SKILLS and industriousness pay big dividends. But not everyone has the mechanical aptitude to be a plumber or electrician.

Since you asked for it, here are the numbers. A person can go to a public in-state two-year community college for about $4000/year in tuition. The cost of a public in-state 4-year university is about $10,000/per year. A 4-year degree can be completed in 3 calendar years with summer school, thus making the total tuition cost for a 4-year degree less than $30,000. The median wage for someone with a high school diploma is around $35,000/year, about $28,000 after taxes. So the total cost including opportunity cost is $110,000 to $120,000. A person with a college degree will make on average $1 million more dollars over the course of their lifetime. Now obviously some majors, e.g. the humanities, are not going to give you the premium that an engineering degree would give you, but the premium over a lifetime is still well in excess of the cost. No one is saying college is for everyone or that everyone should go but as to whether or not it is a good financial decision there shouldn't be any question. Going to college is absolutely a good financial decision with a more than 8 times return on investment. Going to college is arguably the best financial decision that a person will ever make in their entire life.

@@Kevin-rs6cr Your numbers have no verification or source, and are incorrect.The average college tuition is way more than 10k, not even close. How for instance you think summer school is free for instance is unbelievable as is your opportunity cost of$35k a year. That's ridiculously low. That's minimum wage smh. You make more than that at McDonald's Electricians for example typically make in the area of 100k a year or more. My friend makes 50k a year just from a very part time job renting apartments on Airbnb, and that's only from 1 house. When she gets another, that will double. And your million dollar figure the most ludicrous. All your numbers are ludicrous, which is why i asked the author, not some random stranger

This segment suffers from being too short with not enough nuance. Unfortunately, in the rapidly changing landscape of higher education, you cannot reduce this discussion to sound bite length. And college profs may not be the best to interview because they don’t have a broad understanding of all the schools, more a deep knowledge of their own institution. The only worse person they could have had would be a college admissions pro…their incentive structure makes them the LEAST likely to help you understand your options. They are often simply cheer leaders for their own institutions without any accountability for student outcomes. For example, my daughter will graduate from HS in May of 2024. She had a long list of schools. We visited about 10 over the past 2 years. Turns out that many private schools offer so much in aid that they are just as affordable as state schools, sometimes more affordable. We live in Missouri. Oddly, Villanova University (Philadelphia, PA), a private school, will cost less than Ohio State (Columbus, OH), a state school, for my daughter. This decision depends on many, many independent factors…parents income, student HS grades, student standardized test scores, student profile/resume, etc. But most important is your student’s goals. Finally, there is so much specialized language in admissions and financial aid, often with unique caveats at each institution, prepare yourself to do some work. Gather data from each schools’ website, build spreadsheets, talk to financial aid staff with specific questions. Review what you have learned. Compare & contrast institutions. Call financial aid staff back with more specific questions and clarifications. Expect each institution to handle most situations differently. Finally, compare and contrast institutions again. We are beyond the days of general one size fits most advice on this topic. Yes, that means there is effort and thoughtful decision making ahead for most of us. Good luck.

Exactly! Everything cost too damn much to go to school! No one wants that kind of debt! It's all a scam. No wonder the dollar is so inflated.

She’s delusional

​@@mariasmallwood3836she's worried about her 6 figure salary

Your right. College teaches you to be an employee. In fact, all of school teaches you to be an employee.

and DEFINITELY can't be because evil able bodied people set out to murder as many americans as possible by refusing to be careful about covid. You killed off MILLIONS. No fkng sh1t college enrollment is down. so oblivious it's embarrassing

That is exactly it.

Yes they destroyed it. They required degrees just to filter applicants. The filter is now meaningless. Gpt and social media impact. I think college is in trouble bc employers do not keep their employees. 4 years for degree but no employer keep you for 4 yesrs😂. 4 years info is useless. Do they teach you how to learn or a growth or builder mindset?? It’s pretty much memorization

expensive though if you go to an expensive country.

Sshhh keep the woke broke in Mutika. ..

I went to Spanish School in Argentina before completing my college degree. It was the game changer. And also, I’m a first gen graduate that just saved all my money and did it.

There are a few things that are stopping people from continuing their education. 1. The cost of living has gone up . 2 .Tuition for college is very expensive nowadays. Some people dont want ending up paying off loans for the rest of their lives. People are focus on how they can save money pay bills and putting food on the table.

Even STEM has useless degrees;

The sad part is this will be the future, you will soon see "PHD preferred" just to get a job filing books at a library. So if you see stats about "the future will require X more million college degrees" just realize it's not that these jobs NEED a deep understanding of calculus or physics or anatomy it just to narrow the applicants down they will "require" a college degreee, but soon even that won't be enough.

No such thing as "free"

How so?

@@ragul3204 Because people won't have to go to colleges to learn things, there will be massive layoffs. Additionally, all other countries will prosper as much as the US because of AI, so immigration will slow down considerably. The best way to immigrate to the US is through colleges, so these people won't enroll for a program.

Hmmm I wonder what Chat GPT thinks?

@@gmac8586 Lmao true.

@@gmac8586 Google has been around for nearly 20yrs. Did Google replace the college degree? No. Chat GPT can do lots of things Google can’t but it still won’t replace the credentialing aspect of employment.

@@gmac8586 damn 😅