The dark skinned man is so intelligent, eloquent, absolutely mesmerizing.

Controversial Talk Shows were the shit in the 80's.

I miss the Talk Show format, real discussions took place.

35 years later and we still deal with this

Edward Lawson was too deep for the audience! The question was a good question. It was ashamed that the white guy couldn’t answer the question about being taken and he’s around green people. The fact that white people don’t understand 400 years of oppression had affected black people. The trauma of it, especially when it comes to being Black in Society! It’s still a sensitive topic in the Black Community! My Mother is a light skin woman. She’s the lightest of her siblings! My Mother use to be tormented along with her 2 light skinned girlfriends in the 60s in North Philly due to them being light skinned with long hair.

Its 2023 and I'm shocked at how society has dumbed down. Every person that spoke on this whether they were audience member or subject matter experts were articulate, composed, and exuded dignity. Today we can barely understand what people say or what point they are trying to make.

Is it just me but people spoke with more eloquence back then. A lot of slangs and half-words have taken over these days.

Love how the host has no fear in displaying how wholly ignorant he was about black culture 😂

Edward’s face at 20:25 almost took me outtttt😂😂😂

Only 4.3K views? This should have blown up, people need to hear this, but I guess they didn't want to.

So the first woman is mixed and its obvious can we please stop substituting the word light for mixed theres a difference between the two like seriously

Just sad. The brainwashing of colorism is horrible. I had an Aunt who was gorgeous with a dark ebony skin tone who kept putting white powder on her face to make herself lighter

Wow I remember this talk show...born and raised in Philadelphia class of 88!!!

It's baffling how non ambiguous black people will articulate the truth and the non black people or mixed-race and biracial people will dismiss TF out of the information and have this look on their face"😳" Because they don't care And they seemed appalled.

18:11 this is old but she’s right, kids can be cruel. Thank god for growth for some of us.

The moderator handled this topic well. Miss these type of substantial shows. Now all we have are vapid celebrity culture based shoes.

My grandmother, born in 1928 was a beautiful woman. She was dark skin, with tail bone dark wavy hair. She could not stand dark skin for some reason. She acted like she hated dark skin black people. She would bleach. She was married 4 times, she had 4 girls and a son, 2 girls were light skin and 2 as dark as herself, she gave the 2 dark skin girls to their fathers' parents to be raised and she raised the 2 light skin girls and the dark skin son (his skin didn't seem to matter) the 2 light skin girls became trifling women, terrible women and greatly mistreated my grandmother when she got old and stricken with Alzheimer's. I was her only dark skin grandchild of my mother's children, the sisters all had long hair and light skin. By the way, my mother was one of her dark skin daughters. My grandmother despised me and would look at me in discust, she would never talk to me in a loving way. I rember when I was about 4, I closed my hand in her car door, and I began to cry, she looked at me angrily and angrily said, "you stop cryinin" then she angrily turned and walked. She didn't try to console or sooth me.

Discrimination is WRONG no matter where it comes from and who experiences it rather you're dark skin or light skin we are all human beings with feelings god made us all

We as a race, need to have more of these discussions.

Its sad how people glorify their own rape by the traces that are left behind in the physical appearance.

The most important film Spike has ever made. Thank you Spike !! It needed to be addressed and we needed to hear it. You were WOKE long before it became a "trend."

What is that man with dreadlocks called very intelligent anyone knows where he is today

Good hair? She said it as though it’s a factual thing. Good features? 😂

The caucasity of the White student🙄

Now they are banning books about being proud to have kinky hair. 2023

I be learning so much from You Tube and google that I never learned in school it's a true blessing.. He made a great point about green people 😂

Such a manish voice

I agree with the black woman with the glasses that spoke from the audience I have a mixture of different colors of people in my dark to light and that it's how you're raised whether that's important to you or not. I understand that colorism comes as a form of white supremacy, I also understand it's perpetuated by black people too but it starts at home with that nonsense of light and dark / good and bad hair which does not exist ( bad hair is not having any hair) none of that denigrating talk was allowed in my family . I wouldn't experience colorism until I stepped outside my family house and went to school or work with others. At the end of the day I have the features / hair of Mom and Dad and that's beautiful to me regardless of what anyone else has to say about it is irrelevant.

26:43 Edward’s point was everything right there! Brilliant!

36 years ago and nothing has changed.

Edward Lawson(walkman) Is a very interesting individual who knows his beans.

Very Interesting Show 2023

*Eastside Low Bottoms shit !* Essence Magazine B.E.T. white _owned,_ Black _targeted._

Wow! Incredible insight from this video, as a White man I learned a lot! Especially from Mr. Edward Lawson. What an eloquent and educated man.

Lots of uncomfortable people in the audience.

Was this show based in Philly/South Jersey? I ask because of the area codes of the numbers

More of these pls?

Thanks for the reupload. Based on these comments, some people still need more exposure

Ms. Mikki Taylor. Ive alway seen her name in Essence.

They say this all started with the Willie Lynch law.

I’m so happy and grateful that Essence Magazine isn’t just a “black womans magazine” now it’s a “magazine” the testament to their success and longevity is inspirational. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

What's the name of this talk show ?

The young guy at 44 mins had no clue and really didn’t want to answer the question.

I realized Miki was a judge on ANTM🎉

All black women have beautiful hair no matter what their shade is!

I disagree with Lawson about not modeling the average black person. I don't care about representation, but also would like to see people who are clearly of my ethnic group (Black American).

I remember Ebony magazine I never knew they did that though

Good hair, good features?

30 mins in!!! He had the best point

Since 1619... It's not new. It needs, to be discussed. Until, it'sa discussion we can bring it to the table, it will remain...

I wish they had let the lady from Essence speak a little more or at least she could have come prepared with some magazine covers, I assume she was on the show partially to defend and promote the magazine

Watching this in 2023

Good features and good hair???

Sadly, we are calling everything black. 1/4th, 1/5th, etc, what is black?

Well first of all, she's BIRACIAL, which isn't the same as a FULLY-BLACK light-skinned person. Smh.

6:20 that was deep 44:45 that question was too deep for the white boy

The guy with the dreads is intelligent but creeps me out 😅

4:53 is a young Tucker Carlson

Just around 36-37 mins in a young woman who has light skin speaks about her experience at an all White school in Cali where she was the only Black student. - how she went into a pool and the white students made comments about her hair - and she felt “different” (othered - in todays terms). She said that she was (at the time of the talk show) attending an all Black school and that she’s proud to be Black. That was followed by her mom saying that she instilled values of Black pride in her daughter. Then Ms Taylor from essence says - and that’s where it should start - at home(or something like that) I felt that whole exchange needed to be dug into more deeply because it obviously isn’t just what parents instill in their kids. That’s even more true today when we have an even more pervasive form of media and marketing that conditions our minds. The remedy must be BOTH AND. At home we MUST instill pride in who we are - the full range of expressions of Blackness and we must know our true history. However we need the media messaging to change to more positive and diverse images of Black people - but with a special emphasis on celebrating the parts of Blackness that have been most consistently maligned- that is… Dark skin Wide noses Kinky, curl pattern free, short hair And Black people of different faiths and “classes” too. There are behaviors that are considers more acceptable in society that are rooted in white supremacy. We need to look at that too. At the end of the day - it doesn’t matter how one speaks or dresses, or what faith they practice or even what sexual orientation one is… The values must be oriented towards who stands for unity, who is caring, who stands with integrity, who is modeling healthy self care, who champions mental expansion through curiosity and who is happy to share their unique gifts with the world. THOSE are the good qualities that will move us forward as a people. A Black person from any phenotype and any economic class, from any faction of the diaspora, or even any subculture within Black America who exhibits those traits should feel like and be seen by others as a source of great pride. The pathway to healing is to know thyself and heal thyself first and foremost and to start with a shift in our values. Then we need to understand that as a community - we each have a role to play in our collective advancement that goes beyond economic profit! If the magazine sells because lighter women with a loose curl pattern stand as representations of what is “good” about Black women - for example - then the magazine needs to do much better! If it is truly BLACK people at the helm of the media outlets we have a responsibility to do our part and ensure there is more healthy and varied representation and that it is, in fact - as the man on the panel with the locks 30 years ago said, more skewed towards celebrating all the things we malign about Blackness. We need to lean further into celebrating wide noses and short 4C hair, and brown eyes that are nearly black, and Black people who don’t live in proximity to white standards of cultural relevancy. We have to take this on at multiple levels, from multiple angles and it absolutely cannot only happen at home.

I'm dark skinned sister I sat on the train beside a light skinned black man and he jumped up fast I'm just sitting down he didn't want to be around a dark skinned woman if I was a white woman blond he would have been trying to get my phone number and be all on me.

Her and this "Better Hair" thing is irking my nerveeee

I knew a girl named Toni in high school who was mixed and she was very fair skinned and had wavy hair and she was sweet.

The absolute eloquence of the black man with the pink shirt!

The host handled this topic very well!

It's a form of self hate & preposterous!

Nowadays we know a bit better that this did not originate within our community

Google Edward Lawson and read about his he -represented himself in his in a U.S. District Court.

There is no such thing as good hair. All kinds of hair is good and serves a purpose, depending on how manageable it is. Hair can be in bad condition or good condition. Straight hair is supposed easier to deal with and more manageable at times, so its more chosen and desired. Black has always been beautiful and still is, our people just have to understand its not your fault when others look at you and reject your features. I have never been a fan of large noses whether long and stubby or broad and wide, but some people are still attractive and cannot help what they were born with.

light skin people getting bullied isn’t colourism. touching stories though

ADOS are stuck in a loop.

This guy is such a terrible host lmaoo

Camden High School student in the building thats awesome. NJ 😊

This is like worthwhile and also dumb. I’m glad I wasn’t raised to care about it.

at that time I really hated these daytime talk shows.the purpose of putting on topics like this(something related to race like this one) and other controversial subjects was just for ratings.this seemed to be their lifeline- high ratings.that is sort of sad.

How did people use to watch such low quality films

A lot of the people that say they are light skinned are not

I don't believe the dark skinned girl. She just needed to refute the biracial woman experiences. I see dark skinned people giving light skin people a hard time not the other way around.

I don’t like this host, let the people finish what they’re saying before you cut them off.

One thing for sure light skin woman is more hot than dark skin woman and everybody knows that

So fucken what 😅

Where is Edward now??? He died from AIDS

Edward didn’t live there just look at him . The cops did their job

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Eddie Murphy choosing the lighter skinned sister in Coming to America.He is part of the issue .His wives are light .

Wow Thank you

Thank you

Light skin, does it glow in the dark?

I think a lot of black people have a hard time with EMPATHY. Just because someone has a different struggle does NOT mean your struggle is worse or better. Of course there is colorism however it doesnt help the situation by having black people fight among themselves. I can only speak to my struggle has a lighter skin female as to how I would sometimes been automatically seen as stuck up, boogie or self center due to my skin color and that was a form of 'colorism' put on me by majority other darker skin black people. Dark skin people talk about with 'privilege' as if other races care about whether or not if your a lighter black or a darker black, YOU STILL BLACK. Dark skin people face colorism and light skin people face tokenism (Where they are 'invited' in to white space to fill a quota and is never seen as equal or has a right to be in said places). Everyones struggle is different.