Combat Mission Basics: How to Use Close Air Support

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@TheCovenantKiller 2 жыл бұрын

"How to petition the sky gods and their minions for help" Incredible

@nbr1rckr 2 жыл бұрын

I really hope Steve has at least sent you a CM t shirt for all the work you've done to benefit the series.

@usuallyhapless9481 2 жыл бұрын

I have a Usually Hapless T-shirt.

@nbr1rckr 2 жыл бұрын

I'm jealous

@OJoseFrancisco Жыл бұрын

@@usuallyhapless9481 where buy merch

@Ryan-lx6oh 2 жыл бұрын

I started my Combat Mission journey with CMSF2 and have recently obtained Black Sea as it was half price on a Steam special. I am really enjoying the CM experience and would like to thankyou (Usually Hapless) for your tutorials that helped me get underway. I really appreciate your work man!

@TheGuyWhoIsNeverMad 2 жыл бұрын

Ditto.

@bundyfay6447 2 жыл бұрын

I second that.

@GrumblingGrognard 2 жыл бұрын

A key tidbit for new players @1:25 You will get zero notice as to enemy air activity VISUALLY until they strike. Make sure you have the sound turned up and pay attention. Those chopper blade sounds you hear on turn one are NOT just background noise... ;) ...hell, I never noticed the difference in Red Thunder...I don't think I have used air support in that game in the decade(s) I have owned it. LOL!!!

@run2u520 2 жыл бұрын

Except for armed drones, which I don't think make any sounds until they blow up your expensive tank with a Hellfire missile.

@JuergenGDB 2 жыл бұрын

@@run2u520 true, however, if you see your SAM's firing, ie... the smoke trails heading to heaven you know something is in the air. Those Preds can be shot down, and the ZSU-23/4 is great etc.

@blackbear0084 2 жыл бұрын

Have you ever thought about streaming? I’d love to watch you play and get to hear your thoughts and tactics in real time.

@run2u520 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe not a PBEM game since such games could take days if not weeks to complete.

@MsFreegaza 2 жыл бұрын

me too,any content would be nice. new to this game and like so many others,looking to learn/needing to learn alot . For example a small detail i learned tonight in a QB VS AI,if i put my squad against the wall of a house,two pixel truppen will cling to left and right sides of the wall( with preference for an RPG unit,and LMG unit) in order to watch a direction/peek cover...the Truppen are given a hidden "cover value" here,as even though they "look" out of cover,the game is simulating them actually peeking cover and remaining more safe than out in the open... little details like this are cool and you could talk about stuff you find/know about. Kep these vids coming plz i got the game based on them and as a 20 year RTS player,iv finally found my cup of tea,big thanks

@GenericAmerican1 2 жыл бұрын

in my personal experience friendly Air units will, without fail, strike your own forces no matter how far away from the target zone or how well positioned the AFAC is.

@JuergenGDB 2 жыл бұрын

I have not had this experience but I usually keep my assets a good 400m plus away from the 'Blue zones of death". Or I call in airstrikes in areas my assets are not close to but I will eventually get to, so looking for a Recon in Force per say. But you have to keep looking at what they attack so they don't keep attacking a dead target... sometimes.

@Someone-lr6gu 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, the only thing that is really hard to figure out for me in these games is urban warfare. Big losses every time with enemies just killing your soldiers without any way for them to fight back. I comfort myself by thinking that every officer IRL who faced urban warfare had same thoughts as me.

@keith5524 2 жыл бұрын

Suppression, smoke, and artillery. Level entire towns and cities if need be and if authorized.

@Someone-lr6gu 2 жыл бұрын

@@keith5524 Now see, that's obviously easy once you just say it like that. But then: Suppressing becomes an issue where you have no idea where the enemy might be. Same deal with smoke and artillery. Finding out where the enemy is without killing your own troops in the process is almost impossible, especially with WEGO. Artillery and other heavy weaponry is also limited by collateral damage.

@Coddykin 2 жыл бұрын

@@Someone-lr6gu Make sure you're leading with 2 man scout teams, they're harder for the enemy to spot, hit, and if they do die it's better to lose 2 men than a whole squad. Use breach teams and explosives judiciously if you have access to them as well. CM's modeling of urban combat is it's greatest weakness IMHO and it always turns into more of a meat grinder than field battles but you can limit your losses a lot with smart play.

@Someone-lr6gu 2 жыл бұрын

@@Coddykin About the 2 team suggestions, I will look into that, that seems to be a good idea, thanks.

@darugdawg2453 2 жыл бұрын

Irl you bombard the lines youre assaulting first. Its called SHAPING. For example you arty the couple row of houses before going in. Or you can do recon fire by doing manual fire with scouting force from at least 500m away so that they dont get killed by return fire esp rpg. ai would fire back then you can destroy the building with fire support vehicles. Going into a city would be dangerous so go around it or arty the hell out of it. Assaulting should be the last choice

@WPrice-bb6xo 2 жыл бұрын

More knowledge! Finally I can use my cluster bombs with maximum efficiency!

@williamlydon2554 2 жыл бұрын

Apparently Red Thunder has Kreigsmarine ground troops, I'd love to see these in either gameplay or a video showcase

@usuallyhapless9481 2 жыл бұрын

They're not tremendously interesting. Just German infantry in slightly different uniforms

@williamlydon2554 2 жыл бұрын

@@usuallyhapless9481 No ‘lil sailor caps at a jaunty angle on the Pixeltroopen? :(

@DrewShotsFan 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, as always, UH for another interesting, well structured and informative video. I never knew that CMRT differed from the rest. Strange that Battlefront haven't brought it in line to give the player more control. Especially when you factor in how important and common CAS was on the Eastern Front

@maxsomerjoki8147 2 жыл бұрын

I think it has more to do with russian officers and artillery spotters had a lack of radios actually during the conflict also i believe all the air support commands came from a different source entirely. thats the only ww2 game i dont have so if the germans have the same system then it becomes a little more complicated

@aanders1990 2 жыл бұрын

Great as always

@0EvilLemons0 2 жыл бұрын

whats the SF2 video, where hapless says why suppress with rifle when you can shoot it with autocannon, why use autocannon when you have tanks main guns, why use main guns when you have artillery, and why use artillery when you have a 500lb bomb. that's not verbatim but I've been looking for it all morning and it was just a video of army troops reducing a building to rubble lol

@fuchnorris6277 2 жыл бұрын

thank you sir

@thearno2885 2 жыл бұрын

Have you done any videos that explain how to best read topography. When playing turn based I always lose units that expose themselves when moving up to the top of a slope. I can never successfully send an AFV to use optics to peek over the top of a slope, they always end up blown up by AT missiles.

@formacionG13 Жыл бұрын

El edgar be like: si quema cuh?

@dukeextreme 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent work! What determines the likelihood of CAS being knocked out?

@NoNamer0909 2 жыл бұрын

If AA systems have ammo. I have found that even 1 manpad is good enough to deter 1 aircraft but sometimes you get unlucky. Tip always bring at least 1 more AA piece than the enemy has aircraft.

@Hiddenronin 2 жыл бұрын

Purchased CM:SF2 a couple of days ago thanks to your videos and it's one of the most fun (and at times infuriating) games I've played; Mission 3 of the Rolling Thunder campaign, I'm looking at you. How does Black Sea / Cold war compare as I've heard they're much harder compared to the beginner friendly SF2.

@gcgrabodan 2 жыл бұрын

I have difficulties using CAS effectively in some settings. Maybe someone here can help me out. If targets are mooving but I have a 5-10 min call in time it is nearly impossible to hit enemies. Prime example is CMSF2 German Campaign (Kunst des Krieges) mission "Syrien Gambit". I cannot stop 50 syrian vehicles using Choppers and have to resort to Marder Rockets, which violates the objective to hide them.

@trikkinikki970 2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget to add this to your Combat Missions Basics Playlist :)

@usuallyhapless9481 2 жыл бұрын

Good spot! Fixed.

@trikkinikki970 2 жыл бұрын

@@usuallyhapless9481 You know I got your back mate. That's what the italian army does for each other. Oggi, siamo tutti Italiani.

@Alttoviulu92 2 жыл бұрын

How to prepare against them? The sound warning is nice, but what's the countermove when antiair fails to do anything?

@usuallyhapless9481 2 жыл бұрын

Broadly speaking, either hiding or moving. CAS engagement areas in CM are pretty small and CAS takes a while to call in, so keeping moving is a good bet if you've got the space.

@sirfanatical8763 2 жыл бұрын

It took me half an hour (29 minutes) to call for air support when I played the syrian reserves clearing insurgents. I couldn't finnd any JTACs there and Idk why it's that long. I guess I did something wrong (Not sure if I had any FOs in the platoon and it was one platoon and a wpns squad and not more) or maybe the reserves are just that bad. I guess that bc of the dotrine it takes longer, but this is insane. Does anyone know the answer? Also my reserve platoon had: Leadership: -2 Skill: Conscript Motivation: Low/Very low

@andreass2301 2 жыл бұрын

'Where we haven't blown anything up for a while.' - Well, you have been playing a lot of PvP lately...

@bodkinrappallum6137 5 ай бұрын

I am having an issue where my Apache will not shoot when on light attack mode. It comes in and immediately "Egressing from target" is called and it leaves. Why?

@usuallyhapless9481 5 ай бұрын

As a guess, it can't find any targets to engage. Either that or it doesn't have any ammo for it's 'light' weapons left

@gcgrabodan 2 жыл бұрын

Next Tutotorial: Air defense supression. Thx :)

@TheGuyWhoIsNeverMad 2 жыл бұрын

Is there a discord or site that someone new to the game could find some opponents for PvP? The AI is good enough but it can get stale after a while.

@usuallyhapless9481 2 жыл бұрын

discord.gg/Ck7dP3ZpSu

@47SCIPIO 2 жыл бұрын

Can anyone tell me how you setup TRP's? Ive never been able to accomplish this

@usuallyhapless9481 2 жыл бұрын

In game they're represented by a unit (looks like an orange target sign). You either have them at the start of the battle, or you don't.

@Euan_Miller43 2 жыл бұрын

Do you know why some fast jets in CMSF2 will fly over and do nothing but the games shows they drop ordinance?

@usuallyhapless9481 2 жыл бұрын

Could be weapon malfunctions, sometimes they completely miss the map too.

@run2u520 2 жыл бұрын

Generally, you want to use point target on structures and enemy units for fast jets carrying bombs. For slower aircraft such as the A-10, choppers and even F-16s armed with ATGMs, you should give them a target area so they can search and destroy targets on their own.

@WysteriaGuitar Жыл бұрын

Are drones available for attack and surveillance in the Combat Mission games? Thank you

@usuallyhapless9481 Жыл бұрын

Yes, though not to everyone and IIRC only the Americans have one which is armed.

@WysteriaGuitar Жыл бұрын

@@usuallyhapless9481 In which games, Combat Mission Black Sea? Thank you love your videos

@usuallyhapless9481 Жыл бұрын

@@WysteriaGuitar Black Sea and Shock Force 2, though there are more options in Black Sea IIRC

@WysteriaGuitar Жыл бұрын

@@usuallyhapless9481 Thanks!

@darugdawg2453 2 жыл бұрын

I dont get how AA guns/manpad can destroy a high flying fast mover dropping gps guided munitions

@Mechanized85 2 ай бұрын

spotter and radar will told to do that.

@cloaker2829 Жыл бұрын

i feel like they should model the aircraft considering the price they are charging for these 15 year old games

@OperatorMax1993 8 ай бұрын

And make aircraft an actual unit, not just combat but also transport (unite and supplies like ammo). So imagine the Soviets using Mi-8s and Mi-24s or whatever

@JcDent 2 жыл бұрын

Not having stuff like air support payloads explained in the army purchase screen is peak CM. "Lol, just read the manual! I swear, the gamers these days. What's next, asking for mouse-over popups explaining what buttons and symbols on the interface mean?"