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Combat Mission Basics: Firefight 3

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Usually Hapless

Usually Hapless

Күн бұрын

All the subtlety of a half brick in a sock.
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@usuallyhapless9481
@usuallyhapless9481 4 жыл бұрын
LittleArvin has set up a Combat Mission Discord, take a look here: discord.gg/a4jaFBG
@littlearvin1641
@littlearvin1641 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate! Keep up the fine content! 🤗
@one_pang
@one_pang 4 жыл бұрын
we also have a subreddit at r/CombatMission
@coppermouth8965
@coppermouth8965 3 жыл бұрын
ive expired
@kennethhill4623
@kennethhill4623 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have an updated discord link? I used to binge CMBB/CMAK/CMBO back in the day as a kid and I just full dived back into it when I saw Black sea, SF2, and Cold War on steam. I'd love to get involved making custom maps and try my hand at head to head battles with other players. The community is something I've missed out on in the past when stable internet in rurual areas was harder to come by.
@jackcoleman1784
@jackcoleman1784 4 жыл бұрын
I commented on the last video about how amazed I am at the quality of these tutorials and this video is no different. The black and white clips of alternate gameplay demonstrating bad scenarios and why you want to avoid them are genius. It gives the the viewer a direct example of why something probably won't work instead of taking your word for it. If this is just your take on basic fire and maneuver I can't wait for you to get to more advanced concepts however long it takes.
@Lowlander-ci7is
@Lowlander-ci7is 3 жыл бұрын
"Always try to bring a tank cannon to a small arms firefight" Me 2021...
@NorthForkFisherman
@NorthForkFisherman 2 жыл бұрын
The Ukrainians are bringing John Deer.
@lars7935
@lars7935 2 ай бұрын
@@NorthForkFisherman Nonono that's bringing a combination of mud and a tractor to a tank fight
@trigtrig1249
@trigtrig1249 4 жыл бұрын
Please keep making these videos and tutorials! they truly help us new players who are looking to become experts! keep up the amazing videos!!!
@Diditixi
@Diditixi 4 жыл бұрын
So glad that this game came out on steam! I was missing out!
@d.c.6065
@d.c.6065 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, wait a second. Those are MOUT infantry! That's cheating!
@usuallyhapless9481
@usuallyhapless9481 4 жыл бұрын
Well, it would have looked a little silly if I'd gotten up to compound wall and couldn't get in :P Good spot though!
@yourdadsotherfamily3530
@yourdadsotherfamily3530 4 жыл бұрын
15:00 the fact that they can surrender to you is fucking amazing man 0.0 this game is awesome just wish the bundle wasn’t like 130$
@vinnart
@vinnart 3 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work Hap! Very nicely presented in showing what not to do, and what works best. Anyone who is new to the game, or interested in learning Combat Mission MUST watch these. If Battlefront doesn't have links to your basics series on their website they should add it as these help greatly with the learning curve of the game, and give a good overall presentation of the game including the camera range which is greater than many games in the genre. This has always been a big selling point with the game that I think is often overlooked.
@mariofluffeh4615
@mariofluffeh4615 3 жыл бұрын
Love these videos and the fact that you took the time to even show how to properly get the mods working is awesome :) thanks hapless for all the CM content and in general getting me into it over the years.
@kylekeller5532
@kylekeller5532 4 жыл бұрын
I'm proud to say I bought the game as soon as it came out and already have 22 hours on it
@absolutmauser
@absolutmauser 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the Combat Mission party! 🙏
@kylekeller5532
@kylekeller5532 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was off I'm at 33 now haha
@gnarlyification
@gnarlyification 4 жыл бұрын
It has been out for a couple of years now outside of steam... ;D
@absolutmauser
@absolutmauser 4 жыл бұрын
gnarlyification I just checked the purchase date on CMSF in my battlefront account. 2007! I’m so old! And so is this game! 😁
@gnarlyification
@gnarlyification 4 жыл бұрын
@@absolutmauser haha too true. I was just meaning SF2, though it is mostly a 'remastered' SF1
@kayseeff
@kayseeff 4 жыл бұрын
This has been the best content on Combat Mission I have seen. Thank you for making it.
@nbr1rckr
@nbr1rckr 4 жыл бұрын
Stellar presentation. Your basics videos are more effective advertising than any game trailer.
@WarLasso
@WarLasso 4 жыл бұрын
This series is amazing. CM are such difficult games, with a very steep learning curve, so this stuff is incredibly useful for beginners... or those of us who even when we've had the game for a while, can't fully grasp it. I'll keep a close eye on this, and I hope you give some love to the WW2 games, especially Red Thunder. Thanks a lot and keep the good work, you certainly have a talent for teaching.
@eawamp
@eawamp 4 жыл бұрын
These are great videos, super helpful. Most of the time I learn by getting all my pixeltroopen shot up when everything seems to be going OK for a bit, but then I miss something and everything goes to hell. It so helpful to watch you play and explain what you are doing and why. My pixeltroopen thank you!
@DrewShotsFan
@DrewShotsFan 4 жыл бұрын
Polished and informative, as always. I always manage to pick up a useful tip from your vids, even though ive been playing for years and have got all the games and all the add ons (apart from Black Sea). Shock Force purchased yesterday, but not through Steam.....I'm a loyal customer 😂
@Daz30
@Daz30 4 жыл бұрын
Subbed. Great videos and i like how you show examples of what not to do as well even it might seem obvious after the fact sometimes players can get forget the basics when overly focused on one thing. Look forward to more of the series.
@multipleswords04
@multipleswords04 Жыл бұрын
Awesome series of videos, thanks!
@rsraiderscdc6855
@rsraiderscdc6855 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the video and this playlist! I recently discovered your yt channel with these tutorials Do you plan to cover the urban fights in the near future? I took the game on Steam and it's the points where I'm having the hardest time.. Cheers
@travismac1996
@travismac1996 4 жыл бұрын
I hope he covers urban fights too. Its where I always have trouble.
@usuallyhapless9481
@usuallyhapless9481 4 жыл бұрын
I've got a multiplayer campaign I need to make videos out of which includes an urban attack and an urban defence. Just got to find the time... ;)
@rsraiderscdc6855
@rsraiderscdc6855 4 жыл бұрын
No worries take your time. I currently use your multiplayer game Semper Gumfy. I really liked those showcases format, it's clear and understandable under 30min. Thanks again for sharing this! :)
@icedragon7489
@icedragon7489 4 жыл бұрын
General Guidelines for Urban Combat are to spread your firepower through as many positions as feasible do not engage in cqc unless you absolutly have to and alway bring as many explosives and launchers as possible. Make sure to get those from the Vehicles before dismounting and keep in mind to use them from roofs or outdoors preferably (backblast). Never fight outside of buildings and keep in mind that the final argument in a Firefight is a 120mm from a near invicible abrams (when screened and positioned properly). Keep throwing everything including the kitchensink at enemy buildings before you send your lemmings in. The enemy moral should brake after enough fire coming their way eventually and they are going to retreat out of their pos. And if you have your forces properly postioned that should be in los of an mg team or vehicle who will then do most of the killing(In TF Thunder one of my mgs got around 80 kills from covering one street that way.
@icedragon7489
@icedragon7489 4 жыл бұрын
Also Javelins are really really Usefull.
@CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl
@CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl 4 жыл бұрын
A good tutorial! The buildings were a typical perimeter defense, and the enemy didn't have a patrol program. He paid for it dearly. You need a listening patrol somewhere in the field. To set one up would be a good tiny scenario for the editor. If the T 55 had been warned it could have been more interesting. The older Soviet Armor is completely outclassed by modern fire and forget systems.
@usuallyhapless9481
@usuallyhapless9481 4 жыл бұрын
Originally the T55 was going to come over the hill halfway through and the Base of Fire would have had to panic-Javelin it, but I thought that was a bit much.
@CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl
@CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl 4 жыл бұрын
@@usuallyhapless9481 The Javelin is a key weapon and far superior to the Soviet era Sagger. I see to many people who don't look what is inside their APC's or IFV's. I nominate veteran troops who are on a +1 or +2 bonus to use these weapons. I make them my security squad.
@kondor99999
@kondor99999 2 жыл бұрын
Incredibly useful and well-done. Thank you.
@sophiajayprice5107
@sophiajayprice5107 3 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial thank you! Keep up the good work
@user-zl7tq9tp7x
@user-zl7tq9tp7x 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all these. Very helpful. Great work!
@hmabboud
@hmabboud 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, the third episode. Please bring them out to quicker 😊 Thanks
@OLIV3R_YT
@OLIV3R_YT Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@francescotomasinelli5300
@francescotomasinelli5300 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you; Great lesson
@DeniatitadenCompostela
@DeniatitadenCompostela 2 жыл бұрын
You can split squads inside vehicles with little macro-management, but it can be done. Split outside the vehicle and mount the split unit. Play with the pause buttons to do it.
@donotlookherethereisnothing
@donotlookherethereisnothing 4 жыл бұрын
Syrian Forces: Haha! We've mowed down the Americans at the Crossroads- why do I hear mortar fire? American Spotters: AND HERE COMES THE GIANT FIST!
@leonardofacchin1452
@leonardofacchin1452 4 жыл бұрын
This captures one of the two main issues with the Combat Mission series of games: the AI is so dumb that I can't play single player anymore. That T-55 sitting alone in the middle of the desert was completely wasted. The AI starts engaging at maximum range, where only SAWs and light machine guns are able to open up and in doing so it reveals the position of the enemy while doing no damage at all. The other issue is the bottom up simulation philosophy whose effects are excacerbated in modern titles: as the author of the video rightly says, in modern warfare what can be seen can usually be destroyed in a very short time span. This makes technologically advanced armies much more effective. But when the advantage is a matter of seconds, getting the simulation right is very hard and there is no guarantee that the folks at Battlefront are doing things right. In Combat Mission Black Sea, the M1 has a substantial spotting advantage on equivalent russian-made tanks even though all those machines have modern imaging technology. IR technology generations are supposedly taken into account, but how accurately can anyone guess the difference in spotting times between different versions of such technologies? And yet those few seconds are what makes the difference between winning and losing. The more sophisticated and detailed a model is, the more affected by the value of its parameters it becomes. It's also true for much more important issues these days (like Covid-19 epidemiological models). I don't know... I'm becoming somewhat disillusioned with these simulations...
@motardsanonymous748
@motardsanonymous748 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, you are to this game what P Gatcomb is to the Command series.
@jht5225
@jht5225 4 жыл бұрын
Hello there, I love your content and have purchased Shock Force 2 after seeing your videos, it looked like so much fun. I have played a few missions now and I just wondered if there was a way to “rewatch/replay” a game.
@usuallyhapless9481
@usuallyhapless9481 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not- I'm doing it by saving each turn, filming them from the same angle and then editing them together.
@spittlefish5208
@spittlefish5208 4 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, is there a UI trick to ensure infantry dump out of an APC when they get to an area? I'm currently using a pause effect but it's not always timed just right.
@usuallyhapless9481
@usuallyhapless9481 4 жыл бұрын
"Dismount" will make them get out at the beginning of the turn. Giving them a move order will make them get out when the vehicle finishes its last move order. Took me a while to get used to.
@spittlefish5208
@spittlefish5208 4 жыл бұрын
@@usuallyhapless9481 Thanks buddy. Same, I could never tell what was what, some turns they'd just jump right out and it'd cause some headaches for sure.
@darugdawg2453
@darugdawg2453 4 жыл бұрын
You can also use the unguided rocket launcher for buildings
@kmmjybyb4639
@kmmjybyb4639 4 жыл бұрын
Could you please make a tutorial for urban fighting? How do you go about doing fire and manoeuvre when everyone is so close to each other and buildings block sightlines?
@nbr1rckr
@nbr1rckr 4 жыл бұрын
Very carefully :p
@OfficeHyena
@OfficeHyena 8 ай бұрын
loving these videos, looking at getting this game, is the AI good?
@usuallyhapless9481
@usuallyhapless9481 8 ай бұрын
'Is the AI good?' is somewhat difficult to answer: it's somewhat two tier. If you flanked an enemy unit, the TacAI for the unit might make it cower under fire, pivot to engage, displace or flee depending on the circumstances... but the AI 'Player' wouldn't adjust it's scripted plan to compensate by moving other units, deploying reserves etc. This isn't necessarily a problem in tailored scenarios, especially when the player is attacking and the AI can be really challenging, but it can't compare to a human opponent. (Which is good because, you know, skynet etc.)
@OfficeHyena
@OfficeHyena 8 ай бұрын
@@usuallyhapless9481 thanks for the reply man, i think I’m gonna get this game at some point, also lol
@usuallyhapless9481
@usuallyhapless9481 8 ай бұрын
They're all on a Steam sale at the moment!
@BarendJan
@BarendJan 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Hapless, another great video once again! Could you do a video about tank/infantry cooperation in, for example, MOUT situations? Best to lead with tanks in the city with infantry closeby and the APCs/IFVs forming the firebase (more protection up front), or tanks in firebase and having the inf with its own vehicles (Stryker, CV90 etc.) in front? Looking forward to your opinion about this!
@usuallyhapless9481
@usuallyhapless9481 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers man! Tank/infantry cooperation is one of those "it depends" questions and in MOUT situations it would depend a lot on what kind of urban area too. As long as the infantry and armour are working together (ie. tank protects infantry by blapping enemy positions, infantry protect tank by spotting and destroying enemy AT teams) then finding the right balance between infantry and vehicles is just an exercise in fine-tuning.
@jmeister3000
@jmeister3000 4 жыл бұрын
How do you get a replay of the whole battle as seen in the video at 15:22 - (or is this just careful video editing)? I'd be particularly pleased if it was possible in PBEM games. Myself and a friend are just getting into CM and we did a PBEM battle, and both lamented the apparent absence of a full replay feature at the end so we could talk about what happened.
@usuallyhapless9481
@usuallyhapless9481 4 жыл бұрын
It is just video editing unfortunately. It's doable, but takes a while (at least as long as the game, plus loading times)
@jmeister3000
@jmeister3000 4 жыл бұрын
@@usuallyhapless9481 Ah, thought it might be. Thank you for the quick response. I guess full-game replays will just have to live in my imagination then. If they had the option to show you both sides as well I'd find that really interesting to watch. Also, unrelated, but thanks for putting together all these videos. As someone with video editing experience I can tell just how much work is going into them. CM is pretty opaque and your basics/tactics videos have been extremely useful. I also binged your excellent Road To Montebourg playlist recently and it was also pretty educational - like a 'worked example' of sorts! I'm currently playing the campaign myself and rewatching each video after I finish each mission.
@PitterPatter20
@PitterPatter20 4 жыл бұрын
At the end of the video you say "if you have a blunt instrument, you shouldn't be afraid to pummel the enemy to death with it". My question is, can you make one final video in this series where you don't have a blunt instrument? In other words, what this attack looks like if you have a formation low on firepower? Say, for example, a pure infantry-only formation? I'm interested in part because of the CM games in WW2 where a lot of the formations don't have built-in AFVs/IFVs/APCs with the infantry, and I can find it hard to set up fire-and-manuever without those huge guns at my back. Thanks!
@usuallyhapless9481
@usuallyhapless9481 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely intend to do a few of these for the WW2 titles, don't worry. They're CMSF2 focused purely because it came to Steam. It is exactly the same though- the difference is that the blunt instrument is more massed infantry and infantry heavy weapons, plus mortars and artillery because obviously IFVs aren't really a thing.
@PitterPatter20
@PitterPatter20 4 жыл бұрын
@@usuallyhapless9481 Can't wait to see it!
@hmabboud
@hmabboud 4 жыл бұрын
Please more sessions!!!!!
@TopHatHat
@TopHatHat 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to try out a combat mission game but would only be able to buy one, any recommendations for a first timer? (Don't really mind the time period)
@CODRD
@CODRD 4 жыл бұрын
Overall; Shock Force 2 or Fortress Italy. If you want a highly deadly, armoured focus; Black Sea. WW2 Armoured focus; Red Thunder Want a lot of infantry focus with lots of hedgerow fighting (at least before Market Garden); Battle for Normandy Want deadly late war with Americans and German Big Cats; Final Blitzkrieg.
@usuallyhapless9481
@usuallyhapless9481 4 жыл бұрын
WW2 is a lot more forgiving than the modern titles, but it really all comes down to whichever setting you prefer. Shock Force 2, Battle for Normandy and Fortress Italy are the 'complete' games that have all their modules, Red Thunder, Final Blitzkrieg and Black Sea are all currently just base games.
@jackcoleman1784
@jackcoleman1784 4 жыл бұрын
See unlike all the plebs here (joking) my first Combat Mission was Afghanistan. Seriously though don't pick Afghanistan.
@RM-cv4tl
@RM-cv4tl Жыл бұрын
Is there a way to stack dismount commands on your waypoints?
@Icechuck
@Icechuck 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed your icons from Vin's addon look different than mine. Have you modified the install at all?
@usuallyhapless9481
@usuallyhapless9481 4 жыл бұрын
I think I removed the files for the nation-specific HQ icons- I like the little flags.
@burningphoneix
@burningphoneix 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. How did you put the Stryker in that hulldown position? Is it using the Hull Down command?
@travismac1996
@travismac1996 4 жыл бұрын
No. You have to use your camera angels and use target or target briefly to check your LOS.
@usuallyhapless9481
@usuallyhapless9481 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers man! I guesstimated the hull down position for the Stryker in the deployment phase- using the Hull Down command would work, but it's a little finicky and I'm so used to doing it manually I don't really use it very often.
@domfluff
@domfluff 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of the Hull Down command. Doing it manually is fine, but you can get some great results with it with some practice.
@iceman4729
@iceman4729 2 жыл бұрын
How do you get such great graphics at that resolution? I have a top of the line PC and have trouble running the game with high res graphics
@SprikSprak
@SprikSprak 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these tutorials - been playing CM for a while but still found out some new stuff! One question if you know the answer: is there a way to stop your inf using anti tank willy nilly? I've had a few scenarios, especially when anti tank rounds are precious when them using them against a building or infantry has been a problem.
@zengenite7643
@zengenite7643 3 жыл бұрын
You can use a small target arc if you don't want them to fire at all, target armor arc if you only want them to fire on tanks, or target light if you want them to attack a specific unit with small arms only. I think that's the best you can do.
@SprikSprak
@SprikSprak 3 жыл бұрын
@@zengenite7643 Thanks for this - forgot about arcs, sounds like the best solution might be splitting off the anti tank element with the armor arc like you suggest
@joedeganahl9863
@joedeganahl9863 3 жыл бұрын
Which CMSF2 Map did you use for this video?
@usuallyhapless9481
@usuallyhapless9481 3 жыл бұрын
It's the map from the Canadian Club scenario
@SturmgeistMD
@SturmgeistMD 4 жыл бұрын
I think your advertising for the HQS 3.1 mod killed their file hosting? None of the google drive links on the HQS 3.1 website work. Are there mirrors?
@domfluff
@domfluff 4 жыл бұрын
Check the top comment on CMMODS for the updated links.
@usuallyhapless9481
@usuallyhapless9481 4 жыл бұрын
What @Domfluff said!
@zyhgar25
@zyhgar25 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t get the grey contact icons?
@teddyroosevelt3920
@teddyroosevelt3920 4 жыл бұрын
Just got into the game due to your videos but I’m having pretty bad performance issues. Have all settings bottomed out but when I play my turn I’m getting about 1 fps
@granapriego
@granapriego 4 жыл бұрын
I can not seem to get any of my mods to work even though I have a Z folder in the userdata folder?
@usuallyhapless9481
@usuallyhapless9481 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, Z folder needs to go in the Data folder with all the BRZ files, it won't work in the Userdata folder.
@granapriego
@granapriego 4 жыл бұрын
@@usuallyhapless9481 Ah that would explain it thanks a lot.
@JWONS
@JWONS 4 жыл бұрын
You are using old version of HQS, the latest is version 3.3, it is at the bottom of your link
@usuallyhapless9481
@usuallyhapless9481 4 жыл бұрын
Well spotted. Shows how often I check it's been updated!
@karlhungus545
@karlhungus545 3 жыл бұрын
@@usuallyhapless9481 Your HQS link here is actually dead.
@usuallyhapless9481
@usuallyhapless9481 3 жыл бұрын
@@karlhungus545 That is not surprising at all. I think this is still up and running: cmmodsiii.greenasjade.net/?p=7273
@karlhungus545
@karlhungus545 3 жыл бұрын
@@usuallyhapless9481 Yah, I have it already thanks, just thought you may want to update your link. HQS is the best sound mod by far for all of them IMO.
@kbzworld
@kbzworld 4 жыл бұрын
My issue is how do i get it on steam if i already bought it from battlefront.com
@usuallyhapless9481
@usuallyhapless9481 4 жыл бұрын
community.battlefront.com/topic/137434-how-to-get-your-cmsf2-game-on-steam/ should work
@viki5563
@viki5563 Жыл бұрын
what is this map?
@Kirbs69
@Kirbs69 2 жыл бұрын
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