My 2 favorite 'disturbing non-horror film' 1) Shock Corridor (1963) 2) Tesis (1996) by Alejandro Amenabar

Come And See is really disturbing but the movie that really takes the cake for the most disturbing film is Salo or The 120 Days of Sodom, which is also really good and based on true events. If you have not heard of it, I would highly recommend researching it ASAP.

Rise of skywalker is the most disturbing movie I ever seen. It’s disturbing people got paid to make it :/

If I had to choose one, I guess it would be Edmond (2005), even its from Stuart Gordon it is not a horror movie but really taught me not to ponder over my fears too much... "Every fear hides a wish"

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The filmmaking equivalent of a mic drop

@@AD-dg3zz not quite. He sucks.

@@MonTube2006 ok n*zi.

@@k.o.h3599 get lost idiot 😆 I'm as much a naz* as Anne Frank was

I heard that he stopped making movies because the Russian government was fuckinh with all his ideas. He was barely able to make this movie because they wanted so many things changed so he intentionally didn't finish it until much later when he was able to get his intended vision out.

I think people who think this film isn't realistic are on some copium about the human condition.

@@Bigjuicydumbdumb I don’t think he was saying it’s unrealistic, I think he in a convoluted way was saying that it’s a uniquely raw, unsanitised and unhinged depiction of the depraved places anyone can and will go to in war that’s incomparably disturbing to any other depictions of war in popular cinema

@@Bigjuicydumbdumb I feel like it’s not really a war movie. It just shows a kid going nuts after living through some weird dramatized scenes of war crimes.

@@ApeRiderr these depictions are not dramatized you would be shocked with what people do to each other

@@sacredsam6046 oh no, I am well aware especially since the setting the movie takes place in it was an SS unit made up of violent felons lol. I just didn’t really find the movie to be that realistic, I just found it strange.

He did not age they put makeup on him to make him look older

​@@alexandermunguia5873Not to be pedantic, but TECHNICALLY he did age 😉. Sorry, I'll see myself out.

defintely not agreat actor as an adult, just a regular russian propaganda lover

Find a movie "Star" . He is there. A Soviet soldier. A good war movie.

What’s his name?

I can't think of any other film which I say (and it's true) that I watched it twice on a week and nobody would believe me. And no, I don't plan on rewatching it, even though it's on my favourite list.

I don't know how I feel about it. The main character, Flyora, is difficult for me to follow. It's pretty much his fault his entire village was massacred because he blew off the village elder's warning, he tried to drown Glasha, and when the girl at the end walked up after surviving the horrors she was put through, he does nothing to comfort her. A film doesn't need a hero, but as someone who's been through similar traumas he inflicted on others in "Come and See", I just felt sick watching him, even more than seeing the nāzîs. I know that war and its many atrocities will destroy the souls of anyone caught up in its vicious claws and leave them irreparably shattered, but Flyora's actions still seem needlessly cruel, even barbaric, for no other reason than the plot demands it. Same goes for his inexplicable luck all throughout the film. The Ñāzîs kill everyone in a neighboring village, even put their gun to his head, only to take a photo and then leave him alone? It makes no sense. Multiple times he goes out in a group to find food, and is the sole survivor. It took me out of the film a bit because Flyora's plot armor was just so thick. It's a beautiful, poignant, devastating film with brilliant acting, and I respect it as one of the most important films of all time. But seeing it left me feeling disgusted with the characters, not sympathetic.

@@WobblesandBean you must take into account that Flyora is a 12 year old boy. Not a grown man. With that said, I can't, by any means, see his journey as a LUCKY kid. If anything, it's quite the opposite

@@WobblesandBean by no means I'm trying to deny you to feel the way you feel about the characters, just trying to give some perspective

Same

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Threads?!

Most war movies are pretty much just propaganda.

@Oye good ass film

All quiet on the western front

Well said.

Oh wow see, we never really talked about Pearl Harbour in school so I never thought of it as a big tradegy. Silly I know, but growing up close to so where many WW2 events tok place (in EU) we were mostly just talking about events close by. Crazy, just thinking how much history we might still not know or understand! Good thing we have movies that educate :)

Beautiful comment. Love it. Thank you.❤

There things out there in the worlds history that would make you feel differently about everything. Sometimes I think we don’t need them in our head. Others I think we need them most of all to see they stay only there.

Great comment. Schools dont have the time to teach you all the history you should really know. Thats one reason so many are ignorant the history of slavery. You ask half the ppl in America and they think the civil war ended slavery for the most ppl or that black ppl were enslaved more than anyone else. Both are simply not true. Romans enslaved everybody, even other romans. Pearl Harbor was like the twin towers tragedy just 50 yrs earlier. It rocked our country to the core. Enough that Truman believed 2 atomic bombs sufficient retaliation. Also, alot of japanese americans were taken from their homes during ww2 and put in camps jic they may be spies. So much history alot of ppl will never know because schools either arent keeping kids attention, or just arent teaching it. What is life but time to learn and love? Sry for the book. But the og comment was on point tho.

War can be awful, that is why people make movies about those who choose to fight for what they love instead of what they hate. War is going to happen, and you had better make up your mind sooner rather than later how you are going to fight. You can either be one who is molded by hatred or driven by love.

I came here looking for a comment about this scene. Never in my life I felt anything remotely close while watching a movie. That sent real shivers down my spine.

That shot still haunts me, the casual nature of it, like you said almost accidental. She glances back at a genocide flyora missed

That scene is almost like a jump scare. The suspense Klimov builds in the prior scene is so overwhelming - the fact that the entire village seemingly disappeared suddenly, the food still being warm hinting that whatever happened was very recent, the constant buzzing of flies heard throughout the whole scene, Glasha vomiting after trying to eat, and that haunting shot of the two dolls Florya's sisters left broken on the floor. You know something is seriously wrong, the film practically makes it obvious, but Florya is in denial, he thinks his family just escaped to somewhere safer and we the viewers want to believe that as well, but then you get *that* shot once he and Glasha leave the house. It's so sudden and nonchalant its like Klimov is slapping you in the face and saying "you knew they were all dead, stop kidding yourself." And you know the *REALLY* horrifying part? The part that makes me shudder every time I think about it? The slaughter of his family and village was almost certainly retaliation for him joining the partisans. It was called "Bandenbekampfung," or "bandit fighting and it was really what the Nazis did - if one person were even suspected of assisting in partisan activity theyd be murdered along with their family and the rest of their village. The village elder who tells him not to dig at the beginning of the movie was warning him and when Florya meets him again after he's been burnt alive, he essentially confirms it, "didnt I tell you not to dig?" Imagine feeling that, imagine being 14 years old and learning that not only has your family been murdered, but you're the reason they did. It's incomprehensible

The scene with her at the end coming back after being raped got me more... i wouldn't expect from a film to just show someone so brutally wounded after rape that they didn't show, that even thinking about what they might have done to her is unbearable...

It's brutal because it feels like real WW2 footage of a mass grave.

Yes, I can't watch this again, but I'll never forget it

@@aligmal5031 Yes, I know Threads. Saw it when I was definitely too young! So realisitic, it all looked like people and places I knew then. It's weird, after Come and See I felt crushed but also full of love towards humanity. After Threads I just felt depressed! Haha. 2 STRONG films

That’s how I feel about “Saving Private Ryan”. I can’t watch this one once though, so learning about it through KZfaq

@@sixteenstringjackhumanity is sick. Hate them. All.

Such a profound comment. Totally agree

Holy shit I didn’t even realize that.

what is operation waldwinter? I’ve been trying to find sources about it but none of them seem reliable and I feel like I’m searching for it incorrectly

@@victoriashelly5115 it was a code name for a anti partisan operation by the nazis in around 1943 in the Belorussian region of the western Ussr. Basically a ethnic cleansing to get rid of guerrilla forces or revolutionaries forming in nazi territory by its citizens

@@victoriashelly5115 Waldwinter was an anti-partisan operations that started 2 years before the movie takes place and at the start was mostly repression tactics and propaganda. When the movie takes place (1943) the risk posed by the partisans to an already struggling German supply line led to regular German army troops, instead of special security divisions to be used for looting and destroying villages and encircling partisans.

I didn't even notice Lacrimosa was used. Damn, they thought of everything.

So true

Same here, many impactful scenes in this masterpiece but one image that always sticks with me is Glasha dancing in the rain in that lush green forest, with the ghostly 1920's jingle playing faintly

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to me one of the most impactful shots was during the barn burning, a female nazi officer(?) is savoring some lobster inside a jeep. the juxtaposition of such indulgence happening in the face of terror and genocide speaks volumes

They were used to worse depravities under the Bolsheviks

@@bobdollaz3391 Many starved and were forcibly relocated under the CPSU during industrialization and collectivization. The Nazis committed mass murder, burned down villages at random, and used natives for slave labour if they weren't outright killing them. It's kind of hard to argue that the USSR was somehow worse than the Nazis, because for all their wrongdoings prewar and postwar, it's a lot better than whatever shithole Europe would've become had the Nazis somehow survived or won

@@bobdollaz3391 it’s not a competition!

@@bobdollaz3391 hush nazi sympathizer 🤫🤐

@@bobdollaz3391 Another stupid lie from "Black book of communism"

the best and it's not close

@@shinjukucalling763 Thomas Flight and Spikima are on the same level for me. Watching one of either of their videos is like watching a short from an auteur filmmaker. They have their own vibe going on and are just completely different from other channels. The ONLY other channel that comes close is In Praise Of Shadows, but they do other subjects like art and comics etc.

@@rageagainstmyhairline5574 yeah I actually just found Thomas not too long ago he’s really good too

And when you consider that Aleksei Kravchenko was not a professional when he made this (though he certainly is today) AND that this was his first movie, the performance is all the more impressive. Also shout out to Olga Mironova, who played his (brief) companion. Both of their performances are utterly haunting.

ofc he wasnt a professional he made orders to murder a cow and mishandle animals

That guy was modelled upon Oscar Dirlewanger, real life human monster, who also allegedly had a similar pet and did all the things shown in movie - and way worse, he also did them personally

i don’t see it that way. the loris “arms up” position is a response to stress. and the way he was poking at its groin…

@@dykesmcgee3136that was the partisan soldier holding the loris like that, as opposed to prior when it was sitting on the German officer’s shoulder.

He even puts a helmet over the lloris when they are burning the barn with the villagers in it so it doesn't witness the atrocity.

It was meant to illustrate that he considered the life of an animal more valuable than that of one if " these " humans.

This movie is absolutely relentless. No comic relief, no real cheers, no happy ending, just the reality of the true hell of war.

Kinda makes sense with the emphasis on the faces in the movie. Like the faces are what he remembers most vividly.

Well, as here sing in one song "there is no family in Russia where its hero was not remembered". 34 million were coscripted and enlisted during the war out of about 200. Not all of them have been to the front lines. About a million of them, for idiological reasons or fear of a terrible death, decided to change sides. Both my grandfathers and my great-uncle were there. One came back from captivity (a sailor), the second was lucky to survive all four years of the war (I don't know what you call it: we have it close to "combat engineers": specifically building water crossings), and the third was missing (infantryman, militia). They all went through hell. And the Soviet authorities let us know at all costs: that this was it and that they are the real heroes who saved us from extermination, and it can't be otherwise. Including films like these. From this, a real cult of victory over the Nazis arose in the country. In part, it is that (the cult, not the victory) bites us in the ass for now, in Ukraine and not only. So, all the survivors knew: they were needed. They had done the most important thing in their lives. They, collectively I mean, were not allowed to dissolve into loneliness and despair. In so many ways. But still drinking a lot. Not everyone, there were real iron men, "real communists" as they called them then, who didn't allow themselves such "weakness" -- I think they probably still fought, but differently, by building, creating rather than by destroying. I was lucky enough to catch them: they were the most hardcore, honest and deterministic people both at work and daily life that I have ever known. If the word "communist" means anything to me personally -- it's their example. One of my kin didn't talk at all about the horrors of captivity, and he got there in '41, fortunately: in the waters of the Baltic sea, otherwise he probably would not have lived one of the East Front "Stammlager" -- where people were literally starved to death if they did not express their willingness to change sides. By forced labor: Germany had a labor shortage. And a sailor then meant, by definition, a man with at least some mechanic skills. The second mentioned only that while they were setting up the crossing and holding the bridgehead, under constant artillery fire, on the other bank - from their company remained a few dozen people. And the first to die were usually the fresh, young recruits who lost their cool under artillery fire. More than once. I even found a description of one of his awards when they started digitizing the archives: "under heavy artillery fire didn't lose his heart and organized the men to continue build the crossing in spite of the heavy losses". Four years... Were they both lucky? More like survivors, like Fiona -- I think so.

How about this movie then? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jsWChqeip9SUknU.html It's about the Russian civil war and it's based on a short novel written in 1923 by a Bolshevik supporter who eventually got shot in the year of The Great Purge. That novel was never accepted by the censors and only got published in 1989. Unfortunately, "Come and See" still feels a little bit like propaganda because the author tries really really hard to show how evil the Nazis were, especially in that scene with the flame thrower. Something written by a Nazi, say, in 1946 would have been more genuine and depressing, with a feeling that all this cruelty was for nothing, with the added sensation that something is not quite right with the narrator. And that's exactly the feeling we get from The Chekist, especially at the very end when the credits roll (it's a difficult movie), so I strongly recommend it.

@@OneLifeJunkJackfound the Nazi apologist ⬆️

@@laurengin4581 Dear God, I'm not a Nazi apologist. Perhaps the fact that I'm not a native speaker made my message unclear. If you want to witness evil, just listen to the things that Pol Pot said during his last interview. Then imagine that it is because of guys like him that people are being killed in wars and that there are a lot of smaller Pol Pots, like Matryoshka dolls. That's what is really terrifying. The majority of Nazis are not going apeshit with a flamethrower and that's not really what I want to see.

@@OneLifeJunkJack “I’m not a Nazi apologist, I just think other people were worse then Nazis” - you, apparently

what region they meant?

I mean to be fair Islam is fuckin evil

A.H. did nothing wrong

wow. just….sick.

Some Russians who support Putin actually want him to be a modern Stalin.

That’s not a barn, it’s a church.

well said Kierkegaard

Nothing like a BBQ 🔥

really sad but really on point observation. so many bodies, so many souls lost. literally just scene after scene of crowds in some sort of torment and/or hysteria, its all so disorienting

wow, that's insane. but it goes w/o saying everyone should watch this movie. its curious to me how quite a few ppl are saying it's "propaganda," when while its about someone's subjective experience, all these things (and as you said, worse) really happened. i remember in middle school a holocaust survivor recounting a few events that had happened that they had seen and experienced that were just as bad in the film. i dont understand how people can still deny or minimize these atrocities, especially as someone with jewish relatives and ancestry. its just horrible.

@@klaatubaradanikto1490 Something can be true and propaganda at the same time. What we're not seeing here is that the Soviet Union did the same to its own people... and then subjected Europe to it when they invaded in 1939. For many countries, this terror was the reality until 1991. Leaving that bit out is the propaganda part.

@@EggwardEgghands I mean thats out of scope of what the movie is.. but you are not wrong.

@@obe_595 In a sense yes, but it could also quite easily have been given room in the movie. Scenario: Germans digging a mass grave when their shovels hit dead bodies... from Stalin's mass graves a decade earlier.

@@EggwardEgghands Straight up Nazi apologia coming from you.

Thank you for such a thorough and meaningful review of my review!

Я бы обратил ещё внимание, что очень часто камера двигалась по кругу большого радиуса. Заключая в этот круг главного героя. Возможно это отсылка к кругам ада. И ещё один интересный визуальный эффект. После того как группа нацистов фотографируется с Флëрой, налетает клубок чёрного дыма, и он "уносит" с собой нацистов, оставляя Флëру одного. Такой намёк, на инфернальную сущность фашистов.

English Film "Threads" - only once

That's a great idea but too intense for many people

Apparently she died 2 years after making The Ascent, while she was scouting locations for a Movie called Farewell. After her death, Klimov produced a 20 minute tribute film to her. After that he made 3 films, Agony, Farewell, then finally Come and See. Each released in 2 year intervals after her passing. Before her passing he seems to have made mostly documentary, comedy, and drama type films. He hadn't made a film in nearly a decade when his wife died and the released the next 3 films. Think about it, a man makes mostly normal films about drama or comedy or sports while he's married. His wife does, he creates a tribute film to her, then makes 3 films, Agony, Farewell, Come and See.

True, it is very very brutal

Jesus christ that is the single most disturbing scene I've ever witnessed, because you KNOW that platoons really went around and executed whole villages. This really opened my eyes.

Who's the other one?

@@WobblesandBean Thomas Flight.

I was holding my Come and See movie for a very long time before finally hugging it. The movie has been protecting my emotions ever since but the war has been protecting me for more than 11 years and I don’t know what I’d do without it

i get hate as well

That happened much more often in reality than it's been shown in the movie. That's the true, ugly face of war.

@@neyadob Classic men moment

i had this impression as well, also as to how she would often react to the protagonist with both anger and fear, but also the need to have someone with her and not be alone. the scene when they're in the woods together is so heartbreaking and strangely twisted and hysterical.

agreed, it also seems to show in the way she walks in that scene...

@@dunngyllite7883 Yes, absolutely.

@@dunngyllite7883 the blood is biggest give away

​@@dunngyllite7883 Judging by where the blood was coming from, it definitely seems so.

Я прекрасно вас понимаю. Нас тоже в школе водили на просмотр этого фильма всем классом. Я сейчас смутно помню свои тогдашние ощущения, но это был какой-то глубинный ужас. Девчонки выходили из кинозала в слезах, все молчали погружённые в себя. И насколько помню, мы, после никогда с одноклассниками не обсуждали этот фильм, переваривали его в себе. В середине 2000, когда фильмы стали более доступны, я скачал этот фильм в свою коллекцию и с тех пор, пересматриваю его раз в два-три года. Чаще не могу. Но и реже тоже. Этот фильм надо смотреть, чтобы понимать, до чего может довести человека вседозволенность и безнаказанность. Чтобы когда, кто-то будет пытаться запихать тебе в голову мысль, что х@хлы (м@скали, жыды, чурки и пр.) - нелюди и недостойны жить, воспоминания об этом фильме не давали дорогу этому дерьму. Этот фильм лучшая антипропаганда войны и человеконенавистничества.

@@violettray2679 '''''unprovoked'''''' stop watching CNN and BBC

@@violettray2679 *putin's war

@@violettray2679 this film should have explained to you exactly why the war is happening in Ukraine. Never again! It is also important to note that many of the actions in the film were actually carried out by Ukrainians, not Germans. The Soviet Union was unhappy about a member state being portrayed in that manner.

​​@@ItsTristan1stthere were lots of russians and belorussians. That's how collaborationism works. Not only ukrainians. So shut your mouth. And germans too.

​​@@ItsTristan1stthe war in Ukraine started because putin want to rebuild ussr and keep his power. That's all.

They removed that video? Wow, I have no words... Why would they even remove it, what is wrong with them?

@@lisazkc256 The creator removed the video and deleted their channel. There was an attempt to reupload it but the creator asked them to remove it and they respected the request. While I doubt he wants people to find the video, I was able to find it on the internet archives which if you want to, you can find it.

Though I have yet to see this one, I think Son of Saul is actually more disturbing

Most of the best movies were made in the 80's when cocaine ruled the world.

I think the entire movie is/was on youtube

Those and "Men behind the sun" , about unit 731

Great story. Your home country has seen some horrific violence. Maybe it helps you that this is not exclusive to your people, litteraly every country has seen unimaginable violence in their history. Brutal war has been the norm for most of humanities history, and we all have the potential for it in our dna. No matter where you look, humans have been excruciatingly cruel to each other. We are living in the better times now my friend.