Wait 11 people *AVIANCA FLIGHT 11* omg

Are you disturbed? Really? No sh*t Sherlock.

@@ibrahimmahmood6153 Your comment was made 11 hours ago. Signals?

more than 90 % of accidents are due to bad choices made in the cockpit sherlock, it is called pilot error.

I wonder if they did a blood check on the pilots?, seems they were so out of it. Sad RIP.

@@billythekid3234 They had the front seats in a 747 that crashed at 131k. Any blood they once had was outside their bodies by the time investigators arrived.

@Jens Nobel I interpreted it as an acceptance of his fate.

"Oh good" sarcastically during the terrain escape might be appropriate, except it's bad crm

they were doom anyway 10 seconds later they crashed

What a shocking tragedy. I hope as the Captain was clearly relaxed and unaware of the imminent crash right up to the end (and his imminent death), that all the passengers were too. It was dark, and likely they assumed they were just about to land safely. 'In the midst of life we are in death'. God bless them all - I guess it's a miracle anyone survived such an impact.

In fact in some countries, Avianca Flight 11 is known as the Marta Traba plane crash.

😢❤️

@@brianwong7285 what does that mean

@@kirilmihaylov1934 its literally in the original comment. She was a colombian writer.

I wonder how much fatigue played a role in this crash. I've driven a regular car on the interstate in a "zombie" state a couple times, like 24 hours with no REM sleep, pulled off within a few miles once I realized that I was driving like a drunk ass, veering in the lane, lines got blurry, hard to concentrate/keep her in the lanes. I hate to admit I've drove drunk a few times in my life, driving tired/sleep deprived was the same damn sensation. Only driving tired was effing worse, cause you were liable to nod off. Had to roll down the windows, blast some Slayer to keep me awake those few times I was that out of it from fatigue.

It's not the experience... it's the overconfidence

@@AaronSmith-kr5yf something was off here big time yes

@@MilesNauticus It's too bad that we humans don't become less confident with more experience. The smarter you become the more you should realize that a mistake is just around the corner.

No really

The pilot had more flying hours than most airline pilots will ever accumulate in a lifetime. Incompetence is certainly not the word. Sure, he erred, and that cost many lives, but he was not incompetent. It aways astonishes me how so many people in the comments care so little about the word choices they make.

@@generalyellor8188 His actions clearly demonstrated either incompetence or impairment. The report says nothing about impairment.

I would say "incompetence" is a good description of the performance here

@@generalyellor8188 you are correct. These pilots were anything but incompetent. This was an accident that fatigue had a lot to do with. These pilots would run circles around any of the fools commenting otherwise. When anyone else has a bad night at work you come back tomorrow and try again for a better day. When pilots make a mistake people die. They are human.

@@rapman5363 Well said.

= "people get sloppy"

@@None-zc5vg and then they die

Yeah but isn't it the safest mode of transport?🤣 There's too fine a line between success and "sink rate,bank angle and pull up" when the jokers in the cockpit get it wrong.

"Virtue Signaling by posting RIP all over the internet while doing actually nothing to better the world. Social media narcissism at its finest." kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hrqddtuTyLi8o2g.html

And " Well, well. Good" would not be the last words I'd ever say.

Honestly same tho

Agreed. It would be interesting to know how close the crew were to WoCL. Their actions, or lack of them, have all the hallmarks of Circadian Low.

​@@Peasmouldia They were set to land around midnight, which is the worst hour to be busy in a cockpit.

I thought of fatigue too. It was not taken as seriously as it is nowadays. But they seem to have started in Frankfurt, then Paris and then Madrid. Those are really short flights.

@@bullseyes1983 true, but their flight history before - how much crew rest had they? Was their schedule such that they were chronically exhausted? That's the information I'd like.

You get the award for best comment. 🏆

Incompetence.

Avianca already exists in 2022, but not such as good as it was.

as of may 2022 Avianca is still flying as the second oldest airline in the world, update yourself Billy.

@@erickabdel I fly Avianca regularly these days. I work within the aviation industry. From a safety perspective they are much better than they were. They fly Boeing 787-8 and Airbus A330 aircraft on their international routes and Airbus A320 aircraft on their domestic. Their entire fleet has gone through a major upgrade over the last decade or so! Now considered to be one of the safest airlines operating out of South America.

Had to be, with everybody from inside the cockpit to controllers. Way too many errors were made here.

@@DavePainkiller yeah something was off here big time

great?

Or one of these NTSB animations which show everything very clearly.

I found the communications and written narrative confusing on this one.

Exactly - I would like to see the route they should have flown and the actual flight path

He does include the variant indo on all his vids including this one.

you have no life.

I agree what you said about the pilot but the first officer seemed just plain incompetent.

@@jasguy2715 Agreed. Hard to believe he made it that far. Wonder if Daddy, or some other relative is in "high places".

@@deadwendy6870 Several. However, I didn't have 192 souls in my charge. This wasn't a "mistake". This was a failure, of epic proportions, someone with thousands of hours of experience doesn't make . 32 years? Haha. Lucky if I have 10 left.

@@deadwendy6870 these weren't just ordinary "mistakes." These were mistakes made in an environment where one is supposed to be supremely focused and tripple checking everything.

Yeah, the last words were very strange.

You meant to say that, you didn’t know that avianca had a 747?

Had 3 747's besides a Dc 10 back in 80's and 90's, nowadays it has about 165 ... 320's, 330's family and about 14 787's, and still the second airline in S. America.

Nope. No evidence to support your claims. You’re a child.

Repent and believe the Gospel ... or it's Hell. Period.

I'm guessing the "four off-duty crew members" were the relief crew for the longhaul flight.

@@davecasey4341 Yes, very likely. That doesn't really answer my question, though.

Flights with several “local” stops that then proceed with a long haul duration will often change flight crews at the final stop before the overseas portion. Flight plans are updated on each leg. As far as ATC is concerned, each takeoff and landing is its own separate “flight”. Maintenance is performed on the basis of flight hours and takeoff/landing cycles since the last scheduled maintenance. Airline flight planners try to schedule aircraft so that their final flight before maintenance arrives at the service facility. They hate non-revenue generating “dead head” flights. And sure, it’s possible some passengers board these flights at the originating city and don’t deplane until the final destination, however those stops are normally long enough in duration that they could deplane to stretch their legs, then re-board. Hope this answered your questions. 👍

sometimes the GPWS goes off on short final and pilots turn it off because they feel that its annoying

Don't forget Comair 5191

flying is at least half numbers...but numerology will mess ya up.

These were the days (not).

Not Allec's style. His preference is text, and frankly, it's good training in a field that relies on checklists, manuals, radio, and just plain _abstract visualization,_ to the extent aviation does. Green Dot Aviation and TheFlightChannel use a more visual style, but it is fundamentally a layperson's approach.

This wasn’t EGPWS. It was GPWS which is much less reliable and prone to giving nuisance and false warnings.

@@peteconrad2077 And to ring the bell well too late.

@@julosx in many cases, yes. But the biggest issue was that crews were used to nuisance warnings and we’re lulled into the assumption that all warnings were false as the vast majority were.

@@peteconrad2077 Kind of like tornado sirens which over time we have been trained to ignore at our own peril.

@@deepthinker999 indeed.

That whole “driving is more dangerous than flying” is actually wrong. There are billions of people driving at once, when you compare that to the number of flights & accidents that happen, flying is more dangerous.

@@PARCE93 Not True. Look at the number of main line accidents per year as a % of the number of flights made. Few if any accidents versus thousands of automobile crashes & deaths.

Now if you compare the number of frustrated air passengers versus automobile drivers you would have a valid point.

"Virtue Signaling by posting RIP all over the internet while doing actually nothing to better the world. Social media narcissism at its finest." kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hrqddtuTyLi8o2g.html

You make an excellent point. I have an RF background and these endless frequency changes are inefficient and prone to error. It seems like the aircraft industry is slow to adopt technologies which are available for surface transit. An example is aircraft engine explosion where the pilots cannot see the amount of damage other than peering out a passenger window. Most automobiles are equipped with cameras to show activity behind and along side the car. Another example is visual confirmation of landing gear being down and locked into place. Confirmation of blown tires and related fires. Fuselage damage caused by an engine explosion. There are probably more examples.

It was an ATC directed go around due to their mistake(ATC) as it is 99% of the time. Spacing. Look it up. Go around safe common so stop with the drama….

@@reltney20 Bacolod is not a busy airport. Flights arrive once in 3 hours.