Commander Smackdown w/ The EDHREC Crew | Extra Turns 22

Commander Smackdown w/ The EDHREC Crew | Extra Turns 22 | Magic: The Gathering EDH Gameplay

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Show Notes:
The EDHREC crew is trying to EDH WRECK the Command Zone staff. EDHREC podcast host Joey Schultz and streamer/editor Chase "ManaCurves" Carroll are bringing the spice against Craig "Mr. Infect" Blanchette and Ladee Danger. With explosive plays, impressive engines, and lots of huge swings, this is a game you won't want to miss!
It's Wilhelt vs. Alibou vs. Prossh vs. Meren
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Deck Lists:
Craig’s Prossh:
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Ladee’s Meren:
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Joey’s Wilhelt:
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Chase’s Alibou:
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Credits:
Directed by: Josh Murphy
Edited by: Terry Robertson
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Executive Producer: Josh Lee Kwai
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Additional Editing by: Josh Murphy and Arthur Meadowcroft
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Director of Photography: Jake Boss
Sound Mix: Josh Murphy
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@Natedogg2 2 жыл бұрын

Since this is becoming an FAQ: Defense of the Heart has what we call an "intervening if" trigger. It will only trigger if the condition is true as the upkeep begins. If the condition isn't true, then the trigger won't even go on the stack, and it won't go back and trigger if the condition becomes true later on during the upkeep. So when Ladee's upkeep began, no opponent controlled three or more creatures, so the Defense's trigger won't even trigger. Even though Craig will get a third creature during the upkeep, we're passed the point where the Defense would have triggered, so she won't get the Defense trigger that upkeep.

@Snuske10006 2 жыл бұрын

beat me to it (:

@fl1735 2 жыл бұрын

Actually, the ruling on gatherer says that the trigger will check the condition again on resolution. Due to APNAP Greg would've made the snake first, then the Defense trigger would go off and it would check the condition again, seeing that an opponent does indeed have 3 creatures and thus go off.

@outlandishmtg4415 2 жыл бұрын

To add to this: Per Oracle text for Defense of the Heart, "This triggered ability only triggers if your opponent controls 3 or more creatures at the beginning of upkeep. This condition is checked again on resolution."

@Natedogg2 2 жыл бұрын

@@fl1735 It checks as the upkeep begins to see if it should trigger in the first place. And it will check again when it goes to resolve to make sure the condition is still true. But if the condition isn't true as the upkeep begins, then there's no trigger in the first place (and, in the fact, the Gatherer ruling you're referencing backs up this point). *This triggered ability only triggers if your opponent controls 3 or more creatures at the beginning of upkeep.* This condition is checked again on resolution.

@DarkEinherjar 2 жыл бұрын

@@fl1735 It can't check again on resolution if it fails to trigger in the first place, though.

@ella6547 2 жыл бұрын

I'm definitely noticing Game Knights/Extra Turns are all suffering from enchantments that nobody is willing to blow up. Single target removal is on the rise but letting opponents combo off with non-creature methods is happening a LOT.

@mrknarf4438 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Bane of Progress, Fracturing Gust, Nevinyrral's Disk and the like may not be splashy, but they put in a lot of work against complicated board states and get rid of annoying artifacts and enchantments!

@HQofrandom 2 жыл бұрын

@@mrknarf4438I feel like mass artifact/enchantment removal doesn't see much play because most of the time you're also blowing up your board just as much, not saying its the smart way to play, just might be why it happens

@faerie7dragon 2 жыл бұрын

Most of the removal used is Creature Removal, for those kill on sight Commanders that keep being printed. PS: Also less and less people play White, so no Farewell, Austere Command and Cleansing Nova to save the day.

@mitchellshort4676 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly its a problem in our local playgroup. we have 2 groups of people who play in paper those with "skill" who play 10plus removals in their deck. vs johnny combos players who only play their combo and lose to one counterspell. there isnt a middle ground

@Spirited_skiing 2 жыл бұрын

@@faerie7dragon 100% correct on white- Especially with so many flexible sweepers and ways to protect your board from your own sweepers

@falnica 2 жыл бұрын

PSA: according to the rules of the game, you can remove enchantments, it's true!

@BigDiff7 2 жыл бұрын

Who would've thought that the unchecked Smothering Tithe would get out of hand? Fun episode and an interesting finish.

@mufasafalldown8401 2 жыл бұрын

It was hard to watch. Three players and nobody did anything about it. Wild finish though. Funny group too.

@KingYolos101 2 жыл бұрын

Yea I skipped to the end. A game of just mere board building just to lose to tithe in the end.

@brandonstevens4513 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah 2 green players, 3 black players, and 1 red player. No board wipes, artifact hate, or creature removal. Pretty sure only 1 piece of removal was used the entire game. Meh game, cool way to finish it though.

@davidparent75 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah does an unchecked tithe ever not win the game haha

@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle 2 жыл бұрын

@@brandonstevens4513 this might have been the only game where I was actively hoping that the blue deck would counter something

@reubenfromow4854 2 жыл бұрын

Attacking in with Infect and then saying “you’re going to love Phyrexia” confirms to me that Chase was a Praetor the whole time

@KhanGarth 2 жыл бұрын

She will compleat you.

@supersaiyandrgnslayr 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly a lot of my excitement for this episode was lost due to how little anyone did anything to stop what was obviously the biggest threat.

@Exodard 2 жыл бұрын

I was sooo happy to see Wilhelt as it is my current (and only) commander. Then he played kamikaze only to make his friend win by giving free mana... Is it actually legal to go together to play with one player's engine only there to ramp and help the other?

@billyjacques420 2 жыл бұрын

Was Chase’s Path to Exile the only interactive spell played the entire game?

@Strakneus 2 жыл бұрын

They did also kill the 18/18 Mycoloth with their first set of Alibou triggers so it wasn't the only interaction but yes, they where the only one interacting with the board.

@Kunx990 2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to Game Knights!

@Strakneus 2 жыл бұрын

@@Kunx990 oh well it was a fun and explosive game and the vibe at the table was great! I'm not complaining 😀

@thewhitemage8763 2 жыл бұрын

@@Strakneus actually chase goes by they/them shame on you for not knowing

@Strakneus 2 жыл бұрын

@@thewhitemage8763 I am very sorry. You are right. I will edit my comment asap. Thank you🙂

@AdventureSpence 2 жыл бұрын

My headcanon of Ladee and Craig being the most evil/wholesome besties in the crew grows stronger every day

@DarkEinherjar 2 жыл бұрын

Craig is probably overjoyed: two players lost to infect, and although he also lost, he wasn't one of them (the two triggers that killed him came from the non-infect Alibou copies).

@MegaBsterling 2 жыл бұрын

Dude spoilers!

@parkerdellinger01 2 жыл бұрын

Okay. That was probably the coolest KO on Extra Turns to date

@javahikage 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know, man. Manson running over everyone with Zada was pretty awesome too xD

@jonyboy666 2 жыл бұрын

As a Boros player I highly approve.

@dojomaster1987 2 жыл бұрын

Well, hope you guys have a copy of grafted exoskeleton. The price just went up

@Oswen120 2 жыл бұрын

@@dojomaster1987 have it in my inferno deck. Definitely a mean thing

@dojomaster1987 2 жыл бұрын

@@Oswen120 it’s in my Nekusar, the mindrazer deck.

@Danpai_ 2 жыл бұрын

"Prepare to get EDHREC'd." is the single hardest line I've ever heard. S+ delivery, too. This is gonna be a good one.

@shaunmacdougall7581 2 жыл бұрын

Got to love how everyone kept pouring water on a grease fire. Here, please have more treasures to help kill me with.

@Wyrm7774 2 жыл бұрын

As someone who plays smothering tithe, it happens a lot actually. After two turn cycles if no one blows it up they stop caring about it completely. Their logic when I ask is "You already have X treasure, no point in paying or wasting the removal "

@ClexYoshi 2 жыл бұрын

the moment I saw strionic resonator and the kicked Skyclave relic, I was like, "Thaaaaaaaaaaaat's a lot of damage".

@jacques4824 2 жыл бұрын

Chase could’ve had more copies of skyclave relic early on 😅

@BradleyRubin 2 жыл бұрын

Great to see Joey here. Love the EDHRECAST. More dad jokes please.

@bigmacmm5 2 жыл бұрын

Hoping they do an entire dad joke compilation

@X1xDeathwingx1X 2 жыл бұрын

Came for the magic, stayed for the dad jokes

@Srynan 2 жыл бұрын

Ladee Danger just is Meren in disguise and you can't convince me otherwise!

@styfen 2 жыл бұрын

I'm honestly surprised that such great guests are on Extra Turns instead of the main event!

@philavoie 2 жыл бұрын

They were there for EDHRECcast edition transition. I guess no time for full featured

@jsum33 2 жыл бұрын

Seriously?They've had Joe Manganiello, Post Malone and two of the main characters from the most watched show on Netflix in recent episodes. Call me crazy but I think people would rather see legit celebrities over some people who contribute articles to some website not even half of the entire EDH community visits.

@timwright3218 2 жыл бұрын

@@jsum33 I know you’re right. Actual celebs bring in more views than Magic content producers. But I don’t necessarily want you to be right.

@hatedavarice 2 жыл бұрын

I am LIVING for the RPDR reference!! Thanks for mixing my worlds together!

@williammorgan-boyer9604 2 жыл бұрын

Valentina your smile

@jackalcoyote8777 2 жыл бұрын

Katya referenced mtg on that uhhhh show she does with some amateur queen.

@bloodcottoncandy1514 2 жыл бұрын

@@williammorgan-boyer9604 She could walk out with a diaper and they'd EAT. HER. UP.

@Nanot33 2 жыл бұрын

They eat her up every single time she's on that damn stage

@CodeDiablo 2 жыл бұрын

I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING! I was hoping to see more straight guys be like "what are those ladies talking about?" 😝

@Dile0303 2 жыл бұрын

Imagne the godly sensation of "Scy 9 three times"

@jfrizzell6645 2 жыл бұрын

But she really only needed the 1 on top - Inventor's Fair - since she didn't put 9 on the bottom the first time out, she probably had it then!

@noahcarroll4944 Жыл бұрын

@@jfrizzell6645 As an Alibou player myself, I can concur: the only thing you're scrying for when resolving Alibou triggers is either Mycosynth Lattice or a tutor for Mycosynth Lattice. Everything else doesn't matter.

@sunflowertheog Жыл бұрын

@@noahcarroll4944 super late reply but i actually don't even run mycosynth anymore - you have the possibility of vandalblasting your opponents and annihilating them from the game, but also, you have the possibility of that happening to you. plus ive had 2 separate instances of farewell send us all back to the start so in my personal experience the pro of scrying 7 more cards is not worth the con of possibly losing everything haha

@noahcarroll4944 Жыл бұрын

@sunflower Well that's why you laser that person to death first. Once you get Mycosynth Lattice, each Alibou trigger turns into 20 damage

@WeebsUnite 2 жыл бұрын

Who knew that a Smothering Tithe nobody bothers to touch could lead so such an easy win?

@Temperans 2 жыл бұрын

Who though someone would see a smothering tithe and deside to draw 20 cards, just cause.

@PoppinNoggins 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, what do you know, another game dominated by an early, untouched smothering tithe. How interesting...

@CptMoralSupport 2 жыл бұрын

@@PoppinNoggins honestly, it’s less about Tithe and more about the fact that that person kept feeding it and then did a king-making move on their way out

@phelanwolf6747 2 жыл бұрын

Smothering tithe only gives treasures not card advantage. Sure more mana in form of treasure artifacts especially in an artifact deck are a good thing but it is by far not a sure win without getting the right cards. A simple destroy all arifacts would have been more devastating to Chase's board state. That is why drawing more cards to get an answer sooner than later was the right call.

@CptMoralSupport 2 жыл бұрын

@@phelanwolf6747 I agree & don’t agree, you can still pay while drawing

@muevecubos 2 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised by the lack of interaction in this game. The only removal played was a a path to exile by Chase. So much stuff went unchecked despite the many draws by Joey and the tutors with Razaketh.. But hey when you don't draw you don't draw it! Great game I love Alibou in my zabazz deck.

@Omaly360 2 жыл бұрын

It always surprises me how little interaction there seems to be in these shows. I feel I always have a targeted removal or board wipe and never see them on these. I get you may not draw into one but it feels like they just don't play them. Idk.

@Joshbobjovi 2 жыл бұрын

@@Omaly360 They purposely don't run much interaction. Game Knights has always been like that. Extra Turns was supposed to be more optimized decks and less Wizards Advertisement, but it's not really the case anymore lol.

@green_dragon_knight 2 жыл бұрын

Mana Curves : Kills everyone with infect Craig : I can’t stay mad at you *heart eyes*

@mols556 2 жыл бұрын

What an awesome game. Ladee's reaction face roundabout 19:03 made me lmao.

@captainfry9776 2 жыл бұрын

That Joey guy looks a lot like my Syr Konrad... so awesome to finally see EDHREC members on The Command Zone!!!!

@lewmonuva 2 жыл бұрын

19:32 instead of copying alibou's trigger, it would be more efficient to copy helm of the host's trigger and create a third alibou trigger via a third body instead (also increasing the number of tapped artifacts for said trigger)

@aegir55 Жыл бұрын

Nice catch

@huicongding5091 2 жыл бұрын

27:30 wasn’t expecting the valentina vs aja reference but LIVED for it!!

@shysonolmos2916 2 жыл бұрын

NEED MORE JOEY ON COMMAND ZONE PLEASE!

@CeltiesSin 2 жыл бұрын

Lol I love the quivering snake token every time they hiss 😂

@thehood7121 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve never seen Joey! I listen to the Edhrec podcast on Spotify all the time and had no idea. So cool seeing him on here!

@BFG93 2 жыл бұрын

FINALLY JOEY! Guessed you might whilst getting that sweet VFX/Editing Training

@shinobi13 2 жыл бұрын

All Lady Danger had to do was tutor up a Bane Of Progress with the Defense Of The Heart, which she's in the colours for and is a great reanimation target, and that would have solved every major problem.

@precursorboop4380 2 жыл бұрын

Bane of Progress isn't in her deck.

@Wyrm7774 2 жыл бұрын

@@precursorboop4380 Ive never even heard of it

@vdg6184 Жыл бұрын

@@precursorboop4380 which is pretty embarrassing considering it's a cheap card that slots in amazingly well for her deck, and even 8 months ago would be pretty powerful as artifacts were already creeping in representation. I mean, she KNOWS at least 2 opponents will be using enchants and artifacts pretty heavily (Wilhelt/zombies have some absolutely brutal enchants and Alibou...literally just artifact tribal). It should be a staple in that kind of deck, and was the optimal play at the time. Shit she even has acidic slime, another reasonable target.

@HugBot5000 2 жыл бұрын

Loved the unexpected Drag Race reference at 27:26

@AaronChamberlain88 2 жыл бұрын

That made me happy 😃

@theashapeshift 2 жыл бұрын

Let's talk about the fact that Ladee's outfit is always on point.

@jessicastevens538 2 жыл бұрын

She looks like a homeless 1990s punk kid.

@TheUltimateRey 2 жыл бұрын

She wasn’t even going all in on a look and dialed it back here and she still looks amazing

@Suzuki246 2 жыл бұрын

9:16 That snake *hiss* was so subtle, yet so satisfying to see. Well done.

@AristocrateBienEleve 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah! Love EDHRECAST! It’s so great to see them here! And all these decks we incredible! I truly find it’s one of my favourite Extra Turns episode! Greetings from France!

@TehFoamy 2 жыл бұрын

27:30 "She could walk out onto the battlefield in a fucking diaper and the judges would be like 'oh Meren, your smile is ADORABLE'"

@huicongding5091 2 жыл бұрын

OMG YES HAHAHA WASNT EXPECTING THE VALENTINA VS AJA REFERENCE

@MytDrannor87 2 жыл бұрын

Not tutoring for removal when bronze guardian was on the stack was a huuuuge mistake

@VexylObby 2 жыл бұрын

Now the Tweet about removing Smothering Tithe from Chase’s decks make a lot of sense. 😂

@Blu_Moon_Owl 2 жыл бұрын

Joey really made that Smothering Tithe shine by drawing so many cards

@thomasmonaghan9645 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, Joey having to watch Syr Konrad do work on the opposite side of the field must've been bittersweet.

@davidmagno2998 2 жыл бұрын

One of the coolest guests ever. What a fun this game was to watch. AND CRAIG IS ALWAYS A BLAST TO HAVE IN THE TABLE!!!

@Yontanian 2 жыл бұрын

*Two of.

@Miao559 2 жыл бұрын

Joey is finally on the show!!!!

@Cal-fr9mw 2 жыл бұрын

Seeing Joey on here is amazing !!! And cool to see someone new who is chase I never heard of till now

@DarkEinherjar 2 жыл бұрын

Two of my current commanders (Wilhelt and Meren), one of my former ones (Prossh) and one from a deck I'm planning to build around in the future... I like it. 🥰

@dillongause7528 2 жыл бұрын

Why not make a deck around Kenereth that way you have 5 colors

@DarkEinherjar 2 жыл бұрын

@@dillongause7528 Assuming you mean "Kenrith"... I'm a Sith deckbuilder and Ravnica fan, so I abide by the Rule of Two: only two colors per deck. I'm currently aiming to build one deck for each 2-color combination. I stopped building three or more colors to make the decks - especially their mana bases - more budget-friendly. 🙃

@rinbin9772 2 жыл бұрын

@@dillongause7528 5-color "good stuff" commanders aren't a popular playstyle for some people.

@SSolemn 2 жыл бұрын

How is that the 2 decks with green do not run enchantment/artifact removal? They have a ton of cheap ones for target removal, and others for mass removal. With the current meta heavy on both types is kinda weird they don't run those types of cards.

@RazgrizAce67 2 жыл бұрын

When smothering tithe sticks around and everyone essentially ignores it, this is what happens. Have to say, I always thought Alibou looked like a powerful commander.

@ramensobatv 2 жыл бұрын

Seriously ladee, why didn’t you tutor for force of vigor, nature’s claim, beast within etc for the smothering tithe?

@joeystuart2949 2 жыл бұрын

Implying they played any interaction

@alexandersepa3037 2 жыл бұрын

she does not play any of those cards, in fact she plays play not instants or sorceries that can kill artifacts or enchantment's

@inthestateofdelirium 2 жыл бұрын

Ladee could have picked up a razaketh and a rec sage/acidic slime with the degree of the heart trigger and politicked with the other two players. It was clear Chase was a turn away from winning on board.

@privettk 2 жыл бұрын

Loved seeing Joey, hope he comes back for a Game Knights sometime!

@michaelroy1175 2 жыл бұрын

Have you ever considered doing an episode on how you organize your board states? I feel like this is one of the things I struggle with the most, and the board states on Game Knights and Extra Turns are always so clean.

@pedrino321 2 жыл бұрын

idk i thought ladee made a mistake not bringing out meren early then playing lands to proliferate experience counters so it just depends on the person and how well they know the synergy

@rinbin9772 2 жыл бұрын

@@pedrino321 She at least remembered to actually use Meren's trigger and put something back in her hand. One game she just wouldn't target anything in her graveyard if it wouldn't be revived due to experience counters.

@Gatzvalith 2 жыл бұрын

Every episode with Ladee Danger is worth, she is so much fun!

@demilembias2527 2 жыл бұрын

you must be happy because she's in most of them! and I agree

@justanotherhuman7106 2 жыл бұрын

Oooh Im so glad you got Joey on the show, I absolutely love their podcast

@frandynamo2143 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing extra turns! It's awesome to see Chase and Joey on here. I gotta mention Chase with the drag race reference and Lady getting it! Love to see it. That Alibou deck is something else though. Very strong showing. Poor Craig got stopped at pretty much every turn.. gg

@aseofspades4802 2 жыл бұрын

Love the edhrec cast! It's so great to see y'all playing with Joey ^-^

@Bongus_Bubogus 2 жыл бұрын

Wait, a Meren deck is at the table and Joey isn’t playing it?

@AndreborgeZ 2 жыл бұрын

Love Joey's energy :) too bad we didn't saw a board wipe or anything or else the game would have been alot more awesome xD

@nebulousram674 2 жыл бұрын

I just wanted to thank you guys for changing the patreon tier costs, so I can afford to support you guys. I'm now part of the 50 dollar annual tier for the first time, and am happy to finally be support the show that has entertained me for years. I've been enjoying your content since 2019 when I started playing the game. I always enjoyed your game knights, extra turns, and even some of the talk show.

@Manstarr29 Жыл бұрын

Some high level playing over here! Great watch! Thanks yall

@jackos5d851 2 жыл бұрын

oh, joey schultz from the edhrecast? wow that's a pretty good show, how did you get a pull like that? theyve got really good editing and post production too maybe you guys should let them know

@TheSpiritombsableye 2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, Chase does the production for the EDHREC cast nowadays.

@cococream7905 2 жыл бұрын

This episode is a lesson to everyone: PAY YOUR TAXES! Don't let the rhystic study draw cards, don't let the smothering tithe make treasure, it's ok to limit yourself on spells to cast/cards to draw. Yes you slow down, but if you don't they speed up sooooo much more. ALWAYS PAY YOUR TAXES *some restrictions apply, always use your better judgment

@calebyarbrough7705 2 жыл бұрын

Unlike Rhystic Study, paying for tithe is just bad unless you have an extra two mana lying around. You're spending more mana than you are denying the tithe player. People just needed to play more interaction this game, not sink mana into tithe triggers.

@AndrewWoodford 2 жыл бұрын

@@calebyarbrough7705 Don’t play greedy. Play a spell, pay the tax and pass.

@goatsfluff 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome game! I hope to see many more in the future :D Thank you for entertaining us!

@ConstanceMists 2 жыл бұрын

DID YOU STONE THOSE TIGHTS????? Loved the drag race moment there 🤣

@NT_Escanor 2 жыл бұрын

Yes Joey playing black like I knew you would, so proud

@vormavtingel1891 2 жыл бұрын

And I thought Lady would tutor for an obscuring haze. That would have been the card in this moment.

@Spirited_skiing 2 жыл бұрын

It’s such a good card and people don’t respect it

@pedrino321 2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately i thought ladee’s meren deck was weak in power level compared to the other commanders. it’s a shame too cause you can make a relatively cheap meren deck a 7-9 power level and take control of the game early.

@veeclash4157 2 жыл бұрын

That was a fantastic combo with Alibou, a commander I haven't seen before. But I would like to POINT OUT that Lady Danger could have milled the top card before it came around to Chase's turn using Sir Konrad. It was very likely after Chase scryed for 27 that she put the best card in her deck on top of her library, and my assumption is that the top card was the inventor's fair used to tutor the grafted exoskelton which ended the game.

@maxbodifee3263 2 жыл бұрын

Ladee was a true lady letting her guest win

@timothye.2902 8 ай бұрын

nobody bothered to interact with Chase at all. Just let them run crazy with smothering tithe and win.

@ErasmusHereticus 2 жыл бұрын

Despite the comlpex boardstate and everybody doing nuts stuff, I really enjoyed the episode. You can always be 'that person' and say why didn't anybody interact with the problematic pieces, but there were too many to deal with, and also a lot of the times it'll just happen that people simply don't have the answers. Besides, it was a very quick and enthusiastic game. Not every game needs to be a 1-for-1 war of attrition, and this looked like a half an hour of enjoyable table talk and mindmelting amounts of triggers. Always love to see both Joey and Chase, I'd be stoked if you brought on more of the EDHRec folks over for some shenanigans

@VincentWolfeye 2 жыл бұрын

So awesome to see Chase and Joey. Have to get them back soon again 💕

@joaocisne556 2 жыл бұрын

damn, that ending was intense

@rdbaron102 2 жыл бұрын

It was great to watch this game! Great Job Everyone!

@aberranttek 2 жыл бұрын

Very excited for this episode! gonna watch later but all are cool commanders! especially true for Ladee's, Meren is probably my favorite deck

@vilemararaujo9124 2 жыл бұрын

A Rupaul's reference in an Extra Turns episode. I loved it so much. Thanks Chase ^_^

@radu7472 2 жыл бұрын

It was great to see the edhrec cast come on the show! Hopefully they return some time

@SeaMonsterGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome game!! Love that decks and and of course love that finish!

@moonfishink1123 2 жыл бұрын

It is so friggin awesome seeing Chase here, she not only is a regular at my LGS which is already cool but its even cooler seeing her on here having played against her.

@Since-mv7el 2 жыл бұрын

Finally we see the edhrec cast :) :) please more of them

@TheBalkanTeaParty 2 жыл бұрын

Love that Craig is playing Dragon Shield sleeves like a turn mtg player

@DarkEinherjar 2 жыл бұрын

Lots of questions about Defense of the Heart... so, explanatory comment: Defense of the Heart's trigger is a conditional one (because of the "if"), and it will check for its condition both at the moment of the trigger and as it resolves. If no opponents control three or more creatures before the upkeep starts, Defense of the Heart won't trigger at all. By the time Craig gets his Ophiomancer token, the moment of the trigger has already passed, so Defense of the Heart won't check for its condition until Ladee's next upkeep.

@Natedogg2 2 жыл бұрын

@@Forgember No, Ophiomancer only triggers if you don't control a Snake during the upkeep. Once he has a Snake token, he won't get another one until that Snake token leaves play. And on his turn before her first upkeep with the Defense in play, he sacrificed the Snake token (and his other tokens) to get down to two creatures to stop the Defense from triggering.

@kadenkks 2 жыл бұрын

I'm always happy to see a mycoloth enter the battlefield. One of the first decks that made me be like "oh magic is real neat" was a saproling spam deck, and the fact that it actually managed to hang with my friends somewhat optimized kithkins list

@TwilitLugia 2 жыл бұрын

I have never seen the phrase "Optimized kithkin list" and it has me very intrigued

@kadenkks 2 жыл бұрын

@@TwilitLugia this was right after lorwynn so the block constructed powerhouses were fairies and kithkin

@johnsonnavinr2522 2 жыл бұрын

How about an extra turns tournament. 16 players all make a deck and then those are randomly given out to players. The 4 winners get to bring their made deck to the final table. Yay more content?

@BONDxUNLEASHED 2 жыл бұрын

Joey on the Command Zone!!! We need some more EDHREC cast on this show.

@CasualJakeMTG 2 жыл бұрын

Loved the game and loved the guests! Chase is one of my favorite content creators and that Alibou deck SLAPS! GGs all!

@Csteffee9 2 жыл бұрын

Love it! Super exciting match. Wanted to see Wilhelt on a Command Zone episode since he has been released n Joey has a sweet build!!!

@Kingofchaos_ 2 жыл бұрын

The command zone is the WWE of EDH There is no universe ever where a smothering tithe last that long with two green players on the table especially if one has a tutor It’s enjoyable to watch because of the commentary but I know I’m not the only one skeptical

@timothye.2902 8 ай бұрын

irk. Two players playing Golgari (best enchantment removal and best tutors) and neither of them can find a piece of spot removal for one of the most dangerous value engines in the game?

@loorky2126 2 жыл бұрын

:D I have been waiting for Joey at the Command Zone for sooooo long!!!

@sieg1430 2 жыл бұрын

That Alibou deck was awesome! I don't think I've seen anyone play with the card, but it seems so cool!

@osvaldoramirez805 2 жыл бұрын

I've been thinking about making an Alibou deck and this played out exactly how I would have wanted to! Very impressed and everyone from seemed to enjoy themselves and be great sports! 👍

@SpellingBeeWiner 2 жыл бұрын

Ladee was able to tutor for a card and didn't grab a artifact/enchantment board sweeper, which was probably a poor choice in hindsight lol.

@Temperans 2 жыл бұрын

That is assuming she had one, or that she had enough mana to cast it. Which she only had 2 mana. Last time I checked black wipes tend to deal with creatures not artifacts.

@equattlebaum22 2 жыл бұрын

She only had 2 mana available, and Chase's artifacts had Ward 2. So, unless there's a free mass artifact removal or board wipe, wouldn't have mattered

@SpellingBeeWiner 2 жыл бұрын

@@equattlebaum22 I meant on her turn, obviously it was too late then. Grabbing single target removal while the ward 2 guy was on the stack also might have worked.

@Temperans 2 жыл бұрын

@@SpellingBeeWiner Wouldn't have solved the lack of mana issue and at best would had only delayed their death by 1 turn. There just wasn't anything that could be done that game after Chase got hyper fed.

@SpellingBeeWiner 2 жыл бұрын

@@Temperans Ladee needed to have and cast a sweeper that hits artifacts and enchantments for Chase not to win. I don't think Chase could have come back from that. She could have done that on her turn when she went into the main phase with the ability to tutor a card and all her mama after defense of the heart triggered. She MAYBE could have done that if she grabbed a kill spell with her 2 mana while the ward 2 guy was on the stack, but Chase might have killed her for doing so and I don't think Ladee could have stopped her. If she was killed, the other two had a chance to do something. If she wasn't she could try to get a sweeper. Honestly it's likely she just wasn't playing any mass removal that didn't hit creatures.

@EchoEDH 2 жыл бұрын

Joey on extra turns, hell yes!!!

@jessicastevens538 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah watch as he gives the weather balloon the direct win by drawing so many cards for literally no reason

@kylespitzley5707 2 жыл бұрын

Aja reference giving me whiplash forgetting what side of KZfaq I’m on hahaha loved having her as a guest!

@Tuturial464 2 жыл бұрын

When I was thinking of Prosh. I was thinking of the Jimmy that stole Christmas

@brunt1984 2 жыл бұрын

I'm posting this b4 I watch the episode, the funny thing I said to myself just the other day is that I would like to see a Command Zone vs Edhrec crews have a face off, and here it is. I sort of don't care who wins the match, I hope it is a good game! They're all great, thanks you all the advice you all have given out over the years!

@92bagder 2 жыл бұрын

If you don't interact with an artifact deck your gonna have a bad time. Guessing smothering tithe, Helm of the host, and grafted exoskeleton are going to get a bump in price

@DarkEinherjar 2 жыл бұрын

As if the first two weren't coveted cards already... Smothering Tithe is a staple white card and Helm of the Host will see competitive play as long as Godo exists.

@pedrino321 2 жыл бұрын

nah, the players are to blame. they should know never to leave those cards in the game lol

@noahcarroll4944 2 жыл бұрын

There seems to be some sort of weird aura around Alibou that makes people not interact with it at all. I built an Alibou deck myself and during a game, I got out Forsaken Monument and Basalt Monolith, getting infinite mana. Literally *NO ONE* attempted to destroy either piece. I literally cannot explain why.

@ericap1098 Жыл бұрын

Loved this episode. Bonus points for Chase and Ladee quoting RPDR!

@patrickdienzo3000 2 жыл бұрын

A RPDR reference on Extra Turns? I love it here 💖

@tayoooyanggg 2 жыл бұрын

great to see joey on this!

@armstrongturbo 2 жыл бұрын

Chase's deck is awesome!

@Mooney_the_Filthy_Casual 2 жыл бұрын

Finally! The EDHREC crossover episode!!

@quayo90 2 жыл бұрын

I am a big fan of everything these decks are doing!

@davidschrick9764 2 жыл бұрын

At 12:13 in Ladee's upkeep the Defense of the Heart trigger should resolve. Defense of the Heart triggers goes to stack before the Ophiomancer trigger because Ladee is the active player, so then Ophiomancer trigger should resolve right before the Defense of the Heart trigger, which would mean Ladee could search for 2 creatures and put them into play. Am I missing something or they missed this?

@EthanLong1 2 жыл бұрын

You are correct, they missed the order of triggers. Her Defense of the Heart should have gone off

@emperorwheels4323 2 жыл бұрын

Ophiomancer states "at the beginning" and Defence has "during" upkeep too

@trumpets101 2 жыл бұрын

Just got there and looked to see if someone had mentioned this. Active player triggers go on the stack and then goes around table to resolve anyone else’s triggers. Craig would have the snake and thus 3 creatures for Defense to see.

@wintersmonologue 2 жыл бұрын

@@EthanLong1 I was thinking the exact same thing. I was really confused why Craig kept saying Ophiomancer triggers at END of upkeep.

@outlandishmtg4415 2 жыл бұрын

I came looking for this comment. I hated that they missed this trigger because it was sooooooo good after they thought they got around it. Update: Since Nathan Long posted I went and checked the Oracle and this is the ruling: "This triggered ability only triggers if your opponent controls 3 or more creatures at the beginning of upkeep. This condition is checked again on resolution. " So unfortunately it would not even go on the stack at the beginning of upkeep because the criteria wasn't met.