Commander VS S12E3: Sliver Queen vs Krenko vs Progenitus vs Narset

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@JohnnyDeLeo1
@JohnnyDeLeo1 6 жыл бұрын
Looks at thumbnail: Sees Krenko. Looks at pilot: John Suarez, oh dear god. Looks at time of video: Barely over an hour. Yup John wins.
@MagicMonkZA
@MagicMonkZA 3 жыл бұрын
When you play against krenko you need blasphemous act 1 mana board wipe
@venombroj3338
@venombroj3338 Жыл бұрын
or run a card that deals them damage equal to the number of creatures they control which is brutal
@Lucarioguild7
@Lucarioguild7 6 жыл бұрын
Game ends at 55:26 for the people who just come for the light banter in between episodes
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
Krenko for life!
@pinacaladres
@pinacaladres 6 жыл бұрын
*generic comment about generic goblin noises*
@NICOTHATKID
@NICOTHATKID 6 жыл бұрын
Live and die for goblins.
@SonAlexander
@SonAlexander 5 жыл бұрын
The only.good Goblin is a dead Goblin - Goblin Slayer
@fatalbert357
@fatalbert357 6 жыл бұрын
51:00 - "I will activate Krenko...for one hundred and three goblins."
@razzlegaming3397
@razzlegaming3397 6 жыл бұрын
A video on my Birthday. Sweet. Watching this as I work. #cmdrvscrew you guys rock. Keep up the good work.
@zaelingoodman
@zaelingoodman 6 жыл бұрын
Best birthday gift a guy could ask for; great format this time! You guys should consider adding ten seconds to the search limit for each additional card in the search
@eddieschofield4543
@eddieschofield4543 3 жыл бұрын
Love the krenko list I'm trying to finish a krenko deck too. Jonathan u shud try impact tremors and purphoros in it too
@secondstarsurvival8329
@secondstarsurvival8329 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for running krenko, that deck is the best for speed and power. I'm a krenko player and i thought mr. Green would be the first to play it lol
@hamishian0
@hamishian0 6 жыл бұрын
All Gold Everything. That was brutal. Well done John!
@tylerhensel6130
@tylerhensel6130 6 жыл бұрын
no time stamp guy yet? guess it's my turn! 17:15
@Chickenman161
@Chickenman161 6 жыл бұрын
Sir Mr. Timestampman, jr, esq.
@tegg7017
@tegg7017 6 жыл бұрын
Tyler Hensel skiparino cmvsrino
@Big_Wombat
@Big_Wombat 6 жыл бұрын
Not all heroes wear capes
@monstermushroomcloud
@monstermushroomcloud 5 жыл бұрын
The burden of excellence falls upon you, but you bare the crown well.
@Sandesand
@Sandesand 4 жыл бұрын
doing God’s work
@CuTeapot
@CuTeapot 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad he liked it. My only regret is that it isn't an abacus. Maybe when I have some time, I'll make a Zndrsplt one and mail it to you guys.
@DraconisMarchVII
@DraconisMarchVII 6 жыл бұрын
Do you have somewhere to see high-res pics of your 3-D cards? Do you do commissions?
@CuTeapot
@CuTeapot 6 жыл бұрын
DraconisMarchVII my most recent 2 are here. instagram.com/p/BT2v45plIiwcpDWhd1P3SXJY10NZyTheaEjSaw0/?igshid=16fod52f7skmo I have the pieces of the other cartouches cut out, but I simply haven't glued them together. I do take commissions.
@nicholasrolo886
@nicholasrolo886 6 жыл бұрын
Nice work.
@Modernpreacher
@Modernpreacher 6 жыл бұрын
My LGS has a whole group of people who play 2-Block Commander, you pick any general from any set... then build around any 2 blocks you choose. It's such a clean format. You have to really be creative with deck tech and card selection. It is easily may favourite commander format. Fewer infinite combos, fewer similarities between decks, just really interesting fun games.
@CoreyHowardPowerHour
@CoreyHowardPowerHour 3 жыл бұрын
Krenko pops off and all of a sudden everyone seems to know the best way to organize your tokens and how they should attack
@tylerharris2516
@tylerharris2516 6 жыл бұрын
When Progenitus is cast there definitely should be some epic music in the background. The soul of the world has returned
@LlamaNewton
@LlamaNewton 6 жыл бұрын
This is why nobody lets me play Krenko anymore, lol. Well done, Mr. Suarez.
@118bone
@118bone 6 жыл бұрын
Man, a krenko player has to be treated like a meren/atraxa player and insta focused by the whole table otherwise its over
@ownageDan
@ownageDan 6 жыл бұрын
ssshhhhhh, don't tell them :( Krenko is just a nice lil budget mono-colored casual deck. He's not a threat at all, no sir!
@KaiserChef
@KaiserChef 6 жыл бұрын
There's just one slight difference to Krenko and Atraxa/Meren. They aren't mono colour. Mono red is the weakest ramp wise, and the second worst card draw wise. Once a krenko deck has no board state, it's very weak to Blue control or Green fatties.
@crazywolf68
@crazywolf68 6 жыл бұрын
Kieran Kocis Yeah but he also snowballs harder and faster. You need to at least kill him once or twice so he doesn’t insta win. Remember kids: just because it would be mean to hate on the krenko player doesn’t mean you shouldn’t do it :P
@Guyu
@Guyu 6 жыл бұрын
Only takes one wrath of God to end krenko.
@spencer5804
@spencer5804 6 жыл бұрын
Or you could just play any removal spell and slow them down dramatically, which no one in this game had any to speak of. Of you could play a board wipe before turn 8, or a whole host of other things other than hating out the guy playing the commander. They aren’t so powerful that they need to be killed off. This game is NOT representative of a typical Krenko game.
@m3grim
@m3grim 6 жыл бұрын
9:25 I'm not sure I'd be able to ignore Sidisi as a commander if I drafted in Stephen's seat
@gracegao7731
@gracegao7731 6 жыл бұрын
Another great Commander Vs.
@budyfish9234
@budyfish9234 6 жыл бұрын
I'm having terrible ptsd flashbacks b/c of the travesty that occurred in this episode. One of my first edh games was won by a guy with a Krenko deck who killed everyone on turn 5.
@gmfireater1
@gmfireater1 6 жыл бұрын
The Startled Turtwig I feel your pain I've got a buddy who plays krenko regularly
@Bggujh
@Bggujh 6 жыл бұрын
that's why I play wizard tribal control... with 10 board clears, bunch of hard removal and everything else is mana and card draw XD
@budyfish9234
@budyfish9234 6 жыл бұрын
Lazy 6787 I mainly,play control. I was actually playing Ramos combo deck which needs to have absolute control,of the board, but he got way to far ahead way too fast.
@Bggujh
@Bggujh 6 жыл бұрын
The Startled Turtwig Yeah... I'm that asshole at the table who hard controls everything... I will even mycosynth latice and nev disk the table, with elixir of immortality on the stack
@Spulverin15
@Spulverin15 6 жыл бұрын
I play my Inalla Deck the same way :) With some sweet combos for the win
@BladedEdge123
@BladedEdge123 6 жыл бұрын
All of these decks looked fun, and..have they played an actual sliver tribal deck in the 4-player version of commander yet? I know they used to get that request all the time (enough for that '4 sliver commanders, no slivers in any deck video to be a thing) but hey, good on Justin for putting together a much requested deck. That said, like in most of these stipulation drafts, one deck ends up massively out-shining the others in terms of just sheer power. Krenko is busted in anything but Spike Commander style games (and maybe under powered there no idea) But yah. It certainly feels like the kind of Commander that you get to play once, and then either your group asked you/bans you from playing again, or gangs up on you and knocks you out at minute 20 of the 45 minute commander game they go on to play the rest of without you. Good content all the same. I love the stipulation/twists on commander and this one is especially good.
@michaelhamilton445
@michaelhamilton445 Жыл бұрын
Watching Krenko Mob Boss work that way was a learning experience for me. I run Krenko Mob Boss as my commander in my commander deck. I didn't realize I could tap him at the end step of my opponents turn then untap him on my untap phase. Then add more goblins to my battlefield, then tap Krenko Mob for more goblin tokens. Thank you for that learning experience guys
@williamtsikerdanos2503
@williamtsikerdanos2503 6 жыл бұрын
Never let the Krenko player untap with Krenko on the field. It never, ever ends well.
@thomaskaimann6800
@thomaskaimann6800 6 жыл бұрын
I really like the draft concept. You should keep bringijg it back! Also good job jon. Sorry for giving you so much crap last week. You redeemed yourself today.
@sanjurojelze7431
@sanjurojelze7431 6 жыл бұрын
This is the highlight of my week.
@creenan
@creenan 6 жыл бұрын
You might want to try 10-sided dice for those tokens and whatnots. The decimal system is surprisingly handy when you're dealing with 100s of gobs.
@r4g1ngph03n1x
@r4g1ngph03n1x 6 жыл бұрын
New rule should be that the point leader is always the one to "describe" the points screen, lol.
@JParnell1
@JParnell1 6 жыл бұрын
This is a good idea.
@r4g1ngph03n1x
@r4g1ngph03n1x 6 жыл бұрын
Justin Parnell Thanks Justin. I have those from time to time. :) Roughly about half as often as Stephen has a bad idea.
@Shamrock501
@Shamrock501 6 жыл бұрын
It's a shame we didn't really get to see any spicy tech from the other decks. Krenko is simply really powerful for such a linear commander when disruption isn't readily available.
@vengevinnie
@vengevinnie 6 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most ridiculous episodes ever. 10/10, do it again.
@keep7smiling
@keep7smiling 6 жыл бұрын
So where can we find the draft?
@ZanZerejin
@ZanZerejin 6 жыл бұрын
One of the highlights of the week this is.
@tajicbladeofthelegion5474
@tajicbladeofthelegion5474 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Yoda watched Magic
@joelindemann9869
@joelindemann9869 6 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for someone to play krenko literally for years. I'm always #teamgreen, but not today!
@oren7494
@oren7494 Жыл бұрын
a very well built krenko deck is very hard to beat. i have a krenko goblin tribal deck and i never have a game last longer than turn 6, quickest win i've had was turn 3
@OTooleSLuffy
@OTooleSLuffy 5 жыл бұрын
I call my goblin deck E.G.G., or Exponential Goblin Growth
@austinstockman8400
@austinstockman8400 4 жыл бұрын
I just got a Krenko deck and I am so hyped
@vorpalsword1424
@vorpalsword1424 5 жыл бұрын
How come he didn’t tap krenko on his first couple of turns out
@duuet5614
@duuet5614 6 жыл бұрын
You guys did this in season 4 I think, I remember justin being ravnica and choosing rakdos
@Lucarioguild7
@Lucarioguild7 6 жыл бұрын
Derek Walsh I think that was one block, this theme they draft blocks
@multeyemeteor
@multeyemeteor 6 жыл бұрын
My Commander group and I tried out a new mulligan rule yesterday. We usually play with an initial partial mulligan, but yesterday we decided to instead do a scry 7, before drawing cards. This way it basically gives you a partial mulligan, but you don't have to shuffle your deck, unless you're mulliganing down to 6. Everyone loved it.
@JParnell1
@JParnell1 6 жыл бұрын
This sounds solid. I'll try it this week in my personal games if I can!
@multeyemeteor
@multeyemeteor 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I'm looking forward to hear, if you like it.
@ForeverLaxx
@ForeverLaxx 6 жыл бұрын
So basically your table gets to plan out their turn with their next 7 draws known in advance. Sounds like a bad idea.
@Zaalbarjedi
@Zaalbarjedi 6 жыл бұрын
ForeverLaxx Wrong. First you scry 7, then you draw. So you basically put the cards you do not want in your starting hand on the bottom.
@ForeverLaxx
@ForeverLaxx 6 жыл бұрын
+Bohdan Yarema Wrong. I don't actually care. It's a still bad idea. If you want more consistent Commander decks, then play more functional copies and tutors. "Fake drawing" 7 cards so you can pick and choose which in that 7 you want to keep and redraw the rest is just idiotic. If it works for him, great. I would never play with a group like that though.
@edschofield5572
@edschofield5572 11 ай бұрын
Love the krenko deck
@Oopsall
@Oopsall 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, my main man Krenko. My magic group knows now that dealing with him right off is paramount; they know I'll win if Krenko goes off more than twice or three times.
@Skywarp2099
@Skywarp2099 6 жыл бұрын
I like the new SCG intro; It's much less annoying than the ear RIP'ing club music from before.
@MestHoop
@MestHoop 6 жыл бұрын
Reminds me a lot of the guitar riff from The Tempest by Pendulum though.
@DrkWhiteWolf
@DrkWhiteWolf 6 жыл бұрын
Yes! more commander!
@dewolx7411
@dewolx7411 6 жыл бұрын
guys should try and keep the decks' levels even. Winner was decided upon the reveal of the commanders with the way the conditions was set. Suarez chose intelligently.
@jtizzle450
@jtizzle450 6 жыл бұрын
Can you guys please do the 'add a color to a general' theme again? I liked to see the creative juices flowing - I'm trying to see a Captain Sisay + Blue/Red (Jon) || Mizzix of the Izmangus + Green (jeremy) || Mimeoplasm + white (Stephen) || Gitrog + whatever floats your boat Parnell lookin at you
@71chevy0330
@71chevy0330 6 жыл бұрын
How does block draft work?
@gamersnookentertainmentgne9517
@gamersnookentertainmentgne9517 6 жыл бұрын
Hey hey hey, was johns sharpshooter supposed die to Jeremy's putrefy after his triggers resolved????
@Nharzhool
@Nharzhool 4 жыл бұрын
So I know this is a year late, but nobody responded to you, so: Nope. He sacced some more goblins to put more untap triggers on the stack on top of the Putrefy, so he gets to kill Jeremy in response.
@POONTUNEv2
@POONTUNEv2 6 жыл бұрын
isnt one of justins lands the one which doesnt untap after used, i swear he keeps untapping it each turn?
@tomdrayden7776
@tomdrayden7776 6 жыл бұрын
Puneet Kapoor he taps it for colorless which doesnt keep it tapped
@B_Shady42
@B_Shady42 6 жыл бұрын
Hoorah Suarez! Goblins!
@andynaddeo6757
@andynaddeo6757 6 жыл бұрын
BAHAHAHA that was hysterical. Way to go the hell off Jon
@LeKrutes
@LeKrutes 6 жыл бұрын
Three fun decks and one krenko deck... To bad it ended so fast. Wat was this turn 8?
@shawnaustin1037
@shawnaustin1037 6 жыл бұрын
I'm very disappointed Stephen didn't picked the Kami block just to annoy Justin.
@SonAlexander
@SonAlexander 5 жыл бұрын
Im having flash backs to the first episode of Goblin Slayer >.>
@mr.denison8851
@mr.denison8851 6 жыл бұрын
The new Star City Presents is dope.
@montanacady4916
@montanacady4916 Жыл бұрын
Starts at 17:22
@leoskucera3655
@leoskucera3655 6 жыл бұрын
Jeremy cheated at 26:05
@RogueHippie13
@RogueHippie13 6 жыл бұрын
Leoš Kučera How so?
@Zanzibawrr
@Zanzibawrr 6 жыл бұрын
why
@linkusesdabomb
@linkusesdabomb 6 жыл бұрын
Because he said he had six cards in hand instead of seven
@Zanzibawrr
@Zanzibawrr 6 жыл бұрын
oh i had counted 2 cards before the search not 3
@DarthSmirnoff
@DarthSmirnoff 6 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Jeremy isn't a good enough player to cheat on purpose.
@CyberNewType
@CyberNewType 6 жыл бұрын
OMG that story about Kyle West at the birth of his child! LOL I’m dead! LMAO
@liampake8545
@liampake8545 6 жыл бұрын
You guys should try out one of those EDH cubes that you can find online
@Neth91
@Neth91 6 жыл бұрын
where? i want to try a good one
@Millionsofpeas
@Millionsofpeas 6 жыл бұрын
They take forever to draft though. They'd probably have to draft off screen.
@MTGDamnation
@MTGDamnation 5 жыл бұрын
Krenko krenko krenko! Stephen is always funny!
@haroldgridley6258
@haroldgridley6258 6 жыл бұрын
Here's a newly made comment for your channel. Also first pick scars of mirrodan
@jameskessell1977
@jameskessell1977 4 жыл бұрын
why didn't. you sacrifice the krenko to prospector? and recast from the command zone?
@craigh9305
@craigh9305 6 жыл бұрын
Is Stephen putting the cards he doesn't cast with Narset on the bottom of his library?
@jasonrapley1100
@jasonrapley1100 6 жыл бұрын
Suarez and Krenko … match made in heaven
@monkthedog
@monkthedog 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic into. Lol
@thatdudegonder
@thatdudegonder 6 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure there was a bit of a power disparity between the decks 🤔
@steynedhearts
@steynedhearts 6 жыл бұрын
we need a Director Kyle West camera
@lawfullyblind8403
@lawfullyblind8403 6 жыл бұрын
I think this is the first block draft I've seen that didn't have innistrad at the table
@cmdrsausage
@cmdrsausage 6 жыл бұрын
Whole game waiting for maelstrom pulse, detention sphere, hell raging swordtooth would have done it. Once that instant speed ‘player removal’ is online, gooone!
@Sakharee
@Sakharee 6 жыл бұрын
How stephen looks at jeremys hand at minute just before minute 28:00 lol
@helicopter160
@helicopter160 6 жыл бұрын
Krenko is so good, damn
@damo169
@damo169 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus that intro
@matthewhagedorn2511
@matthewhagedorn2511 6 жыл бұрын
Man Suarez, great game! Not criticizing or anything, but why didn’t you untap with all the goblins and make all the mana to cast krenko the extra 3 times for that point? Was there a split second card you were worried Justin might have?
@jonathansuarez3259
@jonathansuarez3259 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew Hagedorn Because I'm awful! Still cant believe I missed it!
@Goldenbelmont
@Goldenbelmont 6 жыл бұрын
just needed Coat of Arms for combat math!!!
@DemonRolo
@DemonRolo 6 жыл бұрын
Should have sacked enough goblins to replay krenko 3 more times and get that extra point.
@r4g1ngph03n1x
@r4g1ngph03n1x 6 жыл бұрын
@51:50. If only those mysterious squares had a 1 on them...
@stevoyah
@stevoyah 6 жыл бұрын
NEW star city fancy intro? Moving on up
@tgoose2209
@tgoose2209 6 жыл бұрын
And no disruption was to be found before the goblins started flying.
@twinkamikaze3524
@twinkamikaze3524 6 жыл бұрын
Woo! Victory for the goblins. Krenko is a crazy commander though.
@twinkamikaze3524
@twinkamikaze3524 6 жыл бұрын
YES!!!! I mostly play block format so this is fantastic. #teamgreen
@jb20150225
@jb20150225 6 жыл бұрын
Who could have possibly seen that ending coming.
@krooke9514
@krooke9514 6 жыл бұрын
What is the count of mono-red wins after this episode?
@kevindosch3561
@kevindosch3561 4 жыл бұрын
And this video right here is why I just made a krenko deck
@NICOTHATKID
@NICOTHATKID 6 жыл бұрын
I only play krenko edh. He should just sac his totkens for mana and then use the drill sergeant to dig through his deck to win. At 40:00 he has enough tokens to do so. Just being a Krenko snob.
@patrykkukla568
@patrykkukla568 6 жыл бұрын
Krenko is lame. So bs and no work. Not fun to play with or against ;/
@NICOTHATKID
@NICOTHATKID 6 жыл бұрын
Patryk Kukla Nah I love krenko. Everyone in my play group plays turn 2-3 combo decks. So it's not that good.
@sashajelten
@sashajelten 6 жыл бұрын
He could have just killed them at 37:40 with his sharpshooter in hand. Swing at Steven, ping the rest.
@NICOTHATKID
@NICOTHATKID 6 жыл бұрын
Sasha Jelten ohh yeah. Definitely. Unless they had a stifle to stop the haste ability. They should of scooped.
@porkthepink
@porkthepink 6 жыл бұрын
@JohnSuarez i am so sorry i called you Steven at Gencon....i seen it was you an i got nervous lol but @Team Suarez/Green 4 lyfe
@shawnspidle2530
@shawnspidle2530 5 жыл бұрын
Damn goblins are evil bastards 😂😂😂 I fight a goblin deck all the time & my elves almost win sometimes. Good game guys
@MetalSnakeBoogy
@MetalSnakeBoogy 6 жыл бұрын
Love Krenko. Even better with a Paradox Engine to push out as many gobs i can.
@RealBakedShark
@RealBakedShark 5 жыл бұрын
Death'sHead banned now :,(
@AlkyAH
@AlkyAH 6 жыл бұрын
I waited all week for that... =(
@froggerpirate
@froggerpirate 6 жыл бұрын
27:55 a judge
@ranindarkrider
@ranindarkrider 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like Suarez got plenty of other cousins. Sweet! #TeamSuarez
@gazetronix
@gazetronix Жыл бұрын
And this is why you play removal spells in your decks. 😅
@BushRat253
@BushRat253 6 жыл бұрын
Sweet Jesus! Start playing some spot removal guys!
@BushRat253
@BushRat253 6 жыл бұрын
Dai 大 I’ve been watching this since the very first episode and noticed a lack of spot remove and answers in general in every single episode. Your math skills are admirable though!
@zaelingoodman
@zaelingoodman 6 жыл бұрын
Many people recommend about 10 board wipes and spot removal combined; with that ratio, with three people drawing, they definitely should've found something to deal with Suarez far before it got out of control
@androssthered1157
@androssthered1157 6 жыл бұрын
That seemed a bit spiky compared to normal. No one thought a board wipe was warranted with like two hundred goblins on the field? lol
@lorecraft64
@lorecraft64 6 жыл бұрын
To be fair Stephen did foresee this lol
@MrMiner35
@MrMiner35 6 жыл бұрын
I try to watch these but I never have time.
@hnjahnjah
@hnjahnjah 5 жыл бұрын
So...Krenko...piloted by Jon...in a video barely breaking the hour mark....i think it's clear who wins...that's why we always focus the nasty goblin player in our group (only two of them...one playing Daretti with quite mean spells like Mindslaver,Jokulhaups/Darksteel Forge/Mycosynth Lattice and the other being Mizzix). Wanna guess who dies first or gets bullied super hard every game? Yeah,those two. And you can see why when you watch this video.
@Burger_pants
@Burger_pants 6 жыл бұрын
49:00 ish jonathan had the game, he could have given sharpshooter haste and ended it with an attack/combo OTK
@sashajelten
@sashajelten 6 жыл бұрын
He could have won a turn earlier at 37:40 the same way. Play the sharpshooter pre combat, haste it up (by sacrificing 6 new tokens). Attack Steven with 22 tokens and the drill sergeant. Narset blocks sergeant, sharpshooter pings steven and gets an untap trigger, and then takes 22 damage from the tokens killing him. John is left with 95 tokens and 2 opponents with a total of 84 life. Ping them to death with sharpshooter.
@brianhakins4692
@brianhakins4692 6 жыл бұрын
I love me some slivers
@Heavyarms525
@Heavyarms525 6 жыл бұрын
#TeamGreen
@zachmayer2288
@zachmayer2288 6 жыл бұрын
I love krenko janklins. Those were mostly awful murder gobos.
@kingwildcat6192000
@kingwildcat6192000 6 жыл бұрын
that's y u focus swarm decks
@moleman2010
@moleman2010 6 жыл бұрын
Stephen cheats by putting exiled cards on the bottom of his library 41:30
@randyharris6689
@randyharris6689 6 жыл бұрын
So glad the curse of mono-red is over
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