Not relevant but he also didn't cast it from his hand the first time. But yeah, that second cast was the real criminal.

Also, if they didn't cut to game over, it would have been exiled

also on the irrelevant side time stop should have been exiled

@@StephenJones-il9ok nah it goes back into library because mission briefing says IF it would be put into graveyard.

Rulings for Approach of the second Sun state that it may be cast from anywhere if its the first time its cast. The second time its cast however must be from hand in order to win

Sir_Sunny Can confirm. Source: I am a Level 2.

Can confirm secondly. Source: that’s how it works on MODO and Arena, also had a judge call at an event about it

I know! I don't think they read it at all

@@tearsunshed The first cast of Approach can be cast from anywhere. It doesn't matter where it was cast from, but the second cast - the one that matters - HAS TO BE cast from your hand or it doesn't count.

/facepalm. C'mon #CMDRVS guys, reading the card pls

Was coming here to say this. Would have made a difference in how Jeremy chose to attack that first time.

Actually, it would go back to the deck because of the "otherwise" clause as the spell resolves it goes to the deck and not the grave so it would not be exiled.

You are correct that John shouldn't win, but the approach should go back into the library on resolution. Since the first "if" part of Approach isn't satisfied, the "otherwise" part would resolve. Since the Approach isn't going to end up in a graveyard, Mission Briefing doesn't exile it. While we are discussing problems, it is worth noting that Mission Briefing doesn't target. You just choose on resolution.

The Dismayer, half of the "otherwise" clause is met, it is the second time its been cast just not from his hand. You may be right, but from my understanding of the English language and Statistical inference dealing with clauses, both prerequisites must be met for the clause to take effect (the "and" in the rules text makes the clauses mutually inclusive). Seeing as the first clause is null but the second clause is met, the resulting otherwise clause is made null causing the effect to be null, sending the card to the graveyard from which Mission Briefing exiles it due to its own effect. To reitirate, you may possibly be right, but seeing as gatherer has no ruling on a case such as this I must fall back to my knowledge of the language and inference of Statistics to resolve the conundrum

@@ashaylangovender2342 I read it as: If (A and B), do (C). Otherwise do (D). When you cast the spell it WILL do either C or D. There shouldn't be a situation where it resolves, but does nothing. For those who don't follow my substitutions: A = this spell was cast from your hand B = you've cast another spell named Approach of the Second Sun this game C = You win the game D = put Approach of the Second Sun into its owner's library seventh from the top and you gain 7 life

@Jason Molisani, you could potentially be right, however I doubt Wizards R&D planned for this specific instance of ruling. From my gaming knowledge, I've had a few instances where I've cast a card and it had no effect (mainly because there was no valid target for the effect). So I grant that the card may go back into his library. I don't personally think it should though

Typically this episode is full of shenanigans and is fun to watch, but you hit the nail on the head - this one was a little rough to enjoy when it felt like only 2 people were really playing...

In all fairness, Stephen got completely mana screwed for the majority of the game, and having all his artifacts exiled didn't help much.

Deadfern82 he did, true, but i saw no evidence in the cards he was drawing and playing that that deck belonged at the same table as John's. All I ask is maybe one week they do real decks and the other they do joke / troll / theme decks because it makes the gameplay boring to see someone so outclassed. Justin's deck wasn't much better. And Jeremy was only a threat because his deck was full of difficult-to-remove mythics. The deck wasn't good. And that's fine. I love bad decks. But John's was severely overpowered at that table. He wins that game 9 out of ten times, even without screwing up Approach. None of those other decks were playing Nexus of Fate. It's their show. They'll do what they want and I love them for it. I just wish they would come to a power level concensus with these episodes as they seem to do in the others. Because this isn't the first time, if you remember the awful decks the West Brothers made them play. I'm a big fan of Esteban Verde but this is all the chair deck's fault. 😀

To be fair stephen had the most life and a "decent" boardstate for the first half of the game if not longer. Jeremy using his Dying breath to exile all non legendarys screwed him

Hail Jeremy the king maker

Oof

Yeah! That's what I'm saying! @starcitygames

YIkerz

He won when his opponents scooped the game.

Never concede. Never quit. Never throw your cards. Finish the game.

#JonGoroBabyMakesMeTired

That mana base was unreal

Good idea ...

they did suarez had to play it and justin built it, just cant remember the episode

yeh they done that, good episode

Judge's Tower Commander?

Great episode 13/10 would watch again

I was thinking the same thing. I kept thinking maybe they were reversed when displayed on the screen.

if someone in front of you facing you raises their left and, is it on your left or right side?

Sure it'd be "your" right in your example, but they are still holding up their left hand. Do you say "someone in front of me is holding up their hand on my right"?

yup ^^

I think it was one of the episodes around Christmas time, but not sure what episode specifically

What a relief

Turns out Karona is an avatar, I thought they were a god but I was false:P

LOL I was thinking that also about Jeremy God deck:P