Common Sense HOS rules from the FMCSA (my version)

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Oldguy379

Oldguy379

21 күн бұрын

In this (extremely long)video, I discuss what I feel the HOS rules should be in a common sense approach to flexibility, maximum efficiency, safety and to help ease truck parking congestion. Sorry it’s so long, hopefully you’ll find it interesting and informative. Thanks for watching!!

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@dont9098
@dont9098 16 күн бұрын
Excellent video In Australia our trucks are speed limited to 100 kph Best wishes from Tasmania
@adamvediz8495
@adamvediz8495 16 күн бұрын
Great video man! I used to work derailments for the railroad for 15 years and I can promise you our hours worked were not governed 😂. I hate the 70 hr rule and refuse to do a 34 on the road. I would love it if that rule would disappear.
@DavidVidaurri
@DavidVidaurri 19 күн бұрын
bring back the good ol days
@Thats_Truckin
@Thats_Truckin 18 күн бұрын
Very well thought out argument. My friend, I have only experienced (Being in the Industry only since 2012) HOS Rules in the current "Set" and feel that an Update would, if done correctly, go a long way to improve safety standards today. In My opinion, the best medicine is Giving back the Flexibility to the driver. I say the 70 - Part should go away. - Forcing drivers to cram together loads and work in an un-needed window. I say the Rest Requirement should be in a 24 HOUR cycle. (8.0) hours minimum. Like you, I can't see sleeping more than between 6.5 to 8.0 hours consistently anyways. The less the driver of our types are forced to endure circumstances that force us to perform under stress the safer the industry would be. Good Video my friend... Keep it Real / Keep R Rollin
@terrysmith7229
@terrysmith7229 19 күн бұрын
Your absolutely right. Big brother regulations have ruined it for the driver , and now there's no respect for each other. Mitigation systems, automatic trucks , and computer logs will never be as safe as a professional driver !!
@Pokerhead1776
@Pokerhead1776 14 күн бұрын
That would be awesome! 💯
@user-wx2sn6fv1d
@user-wx2sn6fv1d 19 күн бұрын
We had similar rules on the railroad. We could work total of 16hrs a day as long as you had a 4hr break. 12hrs if you didn’t take a break. If we worked 7 straight days we had to take 2 consecutive days of the following week you couldn’t go past 14 days consecutively. They made this change around 2010 before that we just worked until we couldn’t go anymore. You could actually take off fatigued and it was cool.
@lanceconover9600
@lanceconover9600 7 күн бұрын
Every bit of what you're saying is true. A lot of the problem is automatic transmissions and not that I'm against them. I'm drive one now but it does make the it does make you a better driver and you understand what is behind you that you're towing and your speed and everything. The other thing is the foreign drivers. They are aggressive. Very untrained and that is the government's fault that was duly to push wages down and keep transportation costs low. These guys are killing our industry. The government had killed our industry by letting them do that. I agree with everything you said. Been out here 35 years. I grew up in a truck and I'm 60 and doing this since the early 70s. Now we need to have some drastic changes with the hours of service. You are correct
@user-wx2sn6fv1d
@user-wx2sn6fv1d 19 күн бұрын
Brother I could talk about this all day. You know this had to start over a lawsuit and government thought they should “fix” it. And you see how they F$@? everything up.🤬
@JamesSullivan-xs1fz
@JamesSullivan-xs1fz 18 күн бұрын
Common sense left the chat a long time ago. Govenrnment and D.O.T. included. I've been at this since 1985. The more "SAFETY" they try to achieve, the worse it gets.
@Hazmatt3446
@Hazmatt3446 19 күн бұрын
You are correct there was no reset in the 10/8/70 rule I remember when Chicago first started expanding the 294 Toll Rd. and trucks got a discount for going through at night. It was an underhanded way of encouraging us to cheat on our logs. TRUCKING before he logs was nothing short of organized crime. You are right we were doing just what we were asked to do, but I don’t miss being asked to go from Southern California to Lansing Michigan after taking 18 hours to load produce 2 1/2 days at 61 miles an hour because my company wanted to say fuel. You are given those guys going down the mountains, the benefit of the doubt, Hand, They just don’t give a damn lol. They’re trying to get down that mountain as fast as they can without wrecking. I go over Jellico or Monteagle regularly and I see em smoking brakes too. And you’re right, it’s just a little hill! I’d hate to see them go down parley summit or the Sister or cabbage! I know that was a long comment series. I’m sorry love your content!
@BioToxin
@BioToxin 18 күн бұрын
I see the good and bad of your ideas, I agree overall though, can't say the number of times I've had to push my cruise to 68 to get that tiny advantage or to get past that guy doing 64, or times I was dead tired and needed to grab a 30 minute at a rest stop and then instead of getting rest I gotta keep going after a power nap, or times I had to take my 30 minutes while getting fuel instead of actually getting a break. you've got so many good points
@hurshelfrasure9859
@hurshelfrasure9859 19 күн бұрын
The change you said is a decent thought. However none of this exception for drive time as you suggested. Simply 12 hours working for the 24 hour clock and 12 hours off. The 12 needs to be max for a day whether you were doing other work tarping or whatever it is. These cheap ass companies simply need to up the pay scale. If a driver can't make a living on a 12 hour day they are paying to low.
@user-wx2sn6fv1d
@user-wx2sn6fv1d 19 күн бұрын
I like your idea just go 11 hrs and call it a day 👍
@Unduplicatable
@Unduplicatable 19 күн бұрын
Might I add… those lane sensors trigger often when you’re in the center of the lane nowhere near a line, too.
@user-zs4um9lw3n
@user-zs4um9lw3n 19 күн бұрын
Preach it, Brother…
@RADIORAHEEM402
@RADIORAHEEM402 17 күн бұрын
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿🙌🏿PRAISE JAH!
@Unduplicatable
@Unduplicatable 19 күн бұрын
For drivers who are also laborers during their SB, logs are a disaster to their health and sanity. I hate logs. “The rules now force drivers to drive when they should be sleeping and sleep when they should be driving” - 100% absolute truth. This is my life every day of the week. How about we stop tracking drive time and start tracking SLEEP TIME? If I only slept 3 hours, I’m not going to make it nearly as far as if I had a full 9 hours of sleep.
@tedhill7017
@tedhill7017 19 күн бұрын
Love the way you think. I agree 100% with everything you said. We need more people like you to make the rules. Very well thought out, not just throwing a bunch of crap out there that doesn’t fix anything. Thank you. God Bless you.
@Oldguy379
@Oldguy379 19 күн бұрын
Thank you for the positive comment. I really appreciate it. I’ve spent a ton of time thinking about a real solution to a problem the government created in trying to solve a problem that didn’t exist. Be safe out there!
@dennispfohl4737
@dennispfohl4737 19 күн бұрын
Agree with your thoughts, as it always does government just messes up what it gets its hands into. I remember back in the nineties when i started driving otr finding parking was never an issues due to the nature of the 24hr driving cycle, trucks where always moving day and night! Many things where much better, If we could go back to 10-8s and toss the eld's that would be a huge improvement! I think we all know why it has got to be so screwed up, a big part of it is the ata and big trucking companies. They continued to have problems with drivers complaints of forced dispatch , fatigue and safety issues as well as not so legal creative logbooking it required to keep running. Knowing this the big carriers with their lobbying power and money knew they were going to be cracked down on eventually so the solution was the eld but they did not want O/O's to have an advantage over them because the O/O could run more efficiently and the big carriers would lose business. That is what should not have happened, the eld should have been mandated for the mega carriers and their problems while small companies and O/O should have been allowed to have the option to use it or run paper logs regardless of how new their trucks are. In short they have hurt the industry and are just punishing and restricting everyone when the problems were primarily with the big mega carriers and their abuse and poor management of their drivers.
@GPROMOTIONS
@GPROMOTIONS 18 күн бұрын
Some companies make drivers to log on duty loading
@jeff19554
@jeff19554 15 күн бұрын
I agree
@hermitrecluse4887
@hermitrecluse4887 19 күн бұрын
Big shout out to the DOT if Pete and repete was riding in a truck and Pete fell out who would be left
@user-su2sh9ve7g
@user-su2sh9ve7g 19 күн бұрын
I agree with you. Drivers and the federal DOT rules need to be more flexible.. 👍Heard some drivers got off the road due to the E-Logs instead of paper logs. As far as wages goes, the rates are slowly going down. "Hotshot" Trucking thru Uship and others are driving them down... Seen much of "S.tevie W.onder I.nstitute of F.ine T.rucking a.k.a. S.ure W.ished I. F.inished T.raining..???? ;)
@Oldguy379
@Oldguy379 19 күн бұрын
Never heard that Stevie Wonder version. That’s great!!
@user-su2sh9ve7g
@user-su2sh9ve7g 19 күн бұрын
@@Oldguy379 Thought you might like those, Alan W.
@eddiesica3649
@eddiesica3649 18 күн бұрын
What brand is your ELD ?
@Twister-10228
@Twister-10228 18 күн бұрын
Can't count how many times the Samsung pad get tossed in the sleeper cause the f@cking clock counting down makes you get into a race mode. I setup and black the screen down.
@baole9557
@baole9557 17 күн бұрын
👍👍
@WesleyPettit-su2rq
@WesleyPettit-su2rq 18 күн бұрын
You are correct. I never drove when I was exhausted on a paper log. And I was never a more exhausted driver, a more dangerous than I was using electronic logs. The reason I quit driving was when I used personal conveyance to get a hamburger while waiting for a load at JBS Packers For 3 days and the b**** shut down my team driven truck because my co-driver was out of hours in South Carolina and I had personal drive time on my log. What's really funny is if you kill someone while using the electronic logs legally you are still going to be the one that goes to jail not the person that's forcing you to drive IE. the government. And the government is not going to pay your insurance if you get in a wreck because you were following the law that you are required. But you can bet you're going to prison if someone dies for murder.
@MCR1972
@MCR1972 18 күн бұрын
I couldn't agree with you more after 30 years the 14 hour rule is trash and needs to go besides you would think that regulators would want a trucker to be relaxed on the road because I think for some people the reason trucking was it was because of the freedom of the open road and now that has been taken away from us with all the unnecessary rules.
@WesleyPettit-su2rq
@WesleyPettit-su2rq 18 күн бұрын
There is no way you can school somebody on the rules that were in place before they were even born brother , there's no way that you can do it because they're just so damn smart they know everything. .
@skinny-peters-JR.
@skinny-peters-JR. 16 күн бұрын
Simple .. if u tired. Dont drive..
@jaysphilosophy1951
@jaysphilosophy1951 18 күн бұрын
It's about control and power, not about safety.
@jaysphilosophy1951
@jaysphilosophy1951 18 күн бұрын
Sounds like your making a case for more driver freedom...No the bureaucracy doesn't want it. They want control. That's what they like, That's what they need. It's about control, not about safety.
@--JYM-Rescuing-SS-Minnow
@--JYM-Rescuing-SS-Minnow 18 күн бұрын
😁👍👍👍 great to hear U'r discussion!
@alexkornuta7532
@alexkornuta7532 18 күн бұрын
Log book should be only for new drivers, after five years of accident-free driving, you should graduate to a professional and be log exempt.
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