Communion with the Other - D.C. Schindler

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2 ай бұрын

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@OvranoPhanekh 2 ай бұрын

Object-Relations Theory Psychology fits surprisingly really well into Communal Ontology! Should check it out, I personally think it's the most effective form of therapy but also seeing how Communal Ontology presented by Telosbound seems to almost fit as a philosophical mirror of the theory is fascinating

@Ananeosis... 2 ай бұрын

And What Do You Think About, "Same-Referentiality" ?, Isn't It, "Self-Referentiality", But Presenting Itself In A Tricky Way ("Self-Referentiality" In Disguise) ? (A Self That Claims That It Commune With "The Other", But, That "Other" Is Identical To "The Self" In, For Example : Preferences ?.

@Ananeosis... 2 ай бұрын

"Other-Referential" i.e. (Other-Immanence) Is : A Forward Expansion By Open-ness = "The Augmented-Self" "Self-Referential" i.e. (Self-Immanence) Is : A Backword Retraction By Close-ness = "The Diminished-Self" Are These Statements Correct, According To "Communal Ontology" ?.

@user-pl8cv6xh5g Ай бұрын

I think it is true that being is related to other Aquinas talk about it but what about the "I" and "mine" I am the good shepherd; and I know mine, and mine know me. John 10:14 Mother did not love her child because he/she is other but he/she is her own, he/she is "her child" This is where I think the west got it right about Divine Simplicity and the Good Shepherd

@1stdebunker 2 ай бұрын

The self is entirely subjective. It's an illusion. Subjectivity is illusory

@dunadan7136 2 ай бұрын

@@telosbound Yeah this I don’t think is entirely correct Now, the independent self is an illusion since nothing can really be understood apart from the background that it exists in. However, he seems to have forgotten that we view everything through our experience, which is subjective to at least some extent.

@kisawisa1769 2 ай бұрын

Why?

@JunkyJeeMail 2 ай бұрын

@telosbound Do you support DB Hart? Just curious.

@JunkyJeeMail 2 ай бұрын

@@telosbound Do you agree that he is wrong on apocatastasis; i.e., that nobody actually is condemned after the Last Judgment?

@JunkyJeeMail 2 ай бұрын

@@telosbound Thanks; much appreciated! ☦️