Compare And Contrast Battleships | Supreme Commander Science

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TheDuelist

TheDuelist

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@shakal_
@shakal_ Жыл бұрын
fun fact i noticed while reading unit sizes in database: battleships in supcom are 1:1 to real life negth, the size of a battleship irl was somewhere in the range of 270~ meters and thats about the size of supcom battleships, t2 ships are also realistically sized, destroyers being about 150~ meters irl, cruisers are slightly bigger irl at 160~, but still close to accurate
@martinf9095
@martinf9095 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great science video. Great job man! The only thing i would like to point out is that the mentioned battleship interractions happen only when both battleships are in range of one another, but most of the time both of the naval forces stay separate, so in such situation the UEF battleship outmatches even the aeon one, because it can start firing sooner, and you can also kite with it.
@judasromo9407
@judasromo9407 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of work into a old game is great I need get my pc again and play again
@pfeilspitze
@pfeilspitze 3 жыл бұрын
To emphasize just how much battleships are about health and range, the Summit has 130 DPS (according to this video) and the Riptide has 90 DPS (according to the unit db). That's why you still need frigates, the same way you still need T1 PD in firebases.
@jasonli2474
@jasonli2474 2 жыл бұрын
that's DPS per gun turret, not the whole ship
@pfeilspitze
@pfeilspitze 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonli2474 A Thunderhead frigate does 50 dps with its one gun. A Summit battleship does 3*150=450 dps with its 3 guns. So it does 9× the DPS, but it costs 35.7× the mass -- which is still worth it because it has 5.3× the range, but makes it vulnerable to being rushed. Also, one full Summit volley is 9*1000 damage (every 20 seconds), but a Thunderhead only has 2120 HP, so a battleship shooting a frigate is complete overkill, and thus you need the spam of your own to deal with the little guys.
@Jonsse
@Jonsse 2 жыл бұрын
One particular thing about Battleships is that they don't do "more" damage over T2. Unlike T3 land which makes T2 land obsolete, Navy needs T2 in the mix to function properly. Mass for mass T1 always does more damage in both, but in Navy the mass dps drops significantly at T3.
@pfeilspitze
@pfeilspitze 2 жыл бұрын
Same as PD -- the T1 and T2 PDs have essentially the same DPS, but the T2 cost way more mass because of its extra range.
@thomasraymond7912
@thomasraymond7912 Жыл бұрын
I think one important thing is like he said the galaxy is cheapest, that means not only is it more versatile but you can get more of them, so sure, you'll lose in a battleship 1v1, but it won't be a 1v1.
@KapteeniKetza
@KapteeniKetza 7 күн бұрын
And for same mass you get 5 galaxies compared to 4 summits.
@is_tolek5492
@is_tolek5492 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t even watched this video and I’m already enjoying it
@benjaminrobledo5466
@benjaminrobledo5466 3 жыл бұрын
Summit, in my opinion, is best because of the sheer range it has. Freaking OP, lol. They're meant to be at the back shelling out damage. Can't win if your ship's can't even hit the target cuz it's out of range, lol.
@Juggernautdemon
@Juggernautdemon 2 жыл бұрын
Problem with Summit is they have slow RoF. They have higher range but they lose to the sustained fire of groups of other battleships.
@lu7ky
@lu7ky 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I would like to have seen was how they each match up vs torpedo bombers 1 to 10-20 for example (uniform testing ofc) for the ones with AA, I can forsee a torpedo bomeer video in the future but that may take a lot of tests or span multiple videos. Regardless good video now i can confirm my WW2 (yes I love that too) Summit remains my favorite.
@nicolash2103
@nicolash2103 3 жыл бұрын
there are also the build time that has his cost a unit that you can get sooner as also there + side
@TheDuelist
@TheDuelist 3 жыл бұрын
Very true. I forgot about that in the video. I need to incorporate that in the future when I talk about eco impact.
@nicolash2103
@nicolash2103 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDuelist That's is something that I only recently comprehend and that why I'm loving the t1 spam because I don't have to spend time teching up. They are a great bank for buck. But when the space become a issue they get out perform byt more expensive tec. I'm may be on the other extreme now >
@nicolash2103
@nicolash2103 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDuelist ho! Did you know that if a factory assist a other one they complete the factory assisted queue that is rely helpful to get a balanced army and quick to execute and it work whit different tech factory. Example if you have 2 2t tack and 3 1t artillery and 1t2 factory and 2 t1 factory the t2 factory will make the tanks and the t1 make the artillery
@austinstoner6270
@austinstoner6270 Жыл бұрын
I never see any snow or ice worlds played on faf. I wonder why, they're my favorite.
@TheDuelist
@TheDuelist Жыл бұрын
There may not be as many, but they are definitely out there. Here's one I casted a while back: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qMueZLOdlbavm4E.html
@demetrioshristovski4518
@demetrioshristovski4518 Жыл бұрын
@@TheDuelist Just an observation, how do the battleships stack against the Neptune? Neptune seems to mimic and be the T3 ''destroyer''
@judasromo9407
@judasromo9407 3 жыл бұрын
You ever thought doing a comparison of other rts like sins of solar, Stellaris, to superm commander I know two of them are considere 4x RTS
@TheDuelist
@TheDuelist 3 жыл бұрын
There are 100% plans to incorporate other RTS's into this channel. Sins (and a lot of the mods for Sins) and Stellaris are two that I had thought of among a few others like Homeworld and Zero K. The long term plan I have for the channel is to continue a core focus on Sup Com (mostly because it's my favorite), but to have videos for other RTS's that don't have Microsoft funneling millions into marketing (ala AOE2 Definitive) and can be forgotten. Nothing wrong with AOE, but there are a lot of other games in the genre that are masterpieces in their own right and I would like to give them the love they deserve.
@austinstoner6270
@austinstoner6270 2 жыл бұрын
Are any of the above mentioned games comparable to sup com?
@judasromo9407
@judasromo9407 2 жыл бұрын
@@austinstoner6270 they are little bit complicated and slow in the beginning but fun
@austinstoner6270
@austinstoner6270 2 жыл бұрын
@@judasromo9407 I'll have to check them out. Thx
@timoschofer2035
@timoschofer2035 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDuelist "Beyond All Reason" might be an rts to have on the list for the future
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