What an elegant summary. Convinced me to start with a lever before dropping more coin on the Decent, though I remain very intrigued. Love love love the commitment to solving a problem, rather than just selling a potential solution.

I was one of those newbs that the user forum helped to get up to speed. It is a very valuable resource.

This is an incredibly useful video. And it makes me appreciate my lever machine even more.

A Decent machine is way out of my budget, but I really love watching through the videos on this channel. I love that you aren't bad mouthing the Breville stuff, I'm using a Duo Temp Pro with their Smart Grinder, and with a bit of attention to my puck preparation (using my home made WDT tool) I feel like I can get results I'm proud of. I love what Decent is doing though, and if I was ever in a position to afford one, I'd jump on it in a heartbeat.

I am so freaking excited to get my DE1 in a few weeks 😻

Fantastic explanation!

Great video! I usually order pure espressos at Cafés and you can tell that not having the pressure variation ruins some coffees and you don’t get those notes typical from light roasts. Not ready to upgrade my entry level machine yet, but instead of upgrading to a La Marzocco mini or similar machine, I will definitely choose the Decent. The more I learn about it, the more excited I get. I love the company transparency and the way your treat your customers (community might be the best word to describe it). Keep up the good work!

I’ve actually been able to pull single origin light roast pretty well on my Breville touch , although this explanation opens a new chapter of recipe making….

It sounds like a fantastic machine. I have a Breville machine, and I'm pulling my shots around one o clock. I understand that is pretty high pressure, but my lattes are not too bad. I would love to get a La Pavoni Europiccola or one of these someday.

Yep I couldn't agree more. Although I don't have a decent espresso machine, I'm gradually learning how important good data is when analysing a shot but the decent is so good at that, I'd probably be very overwhelmed but very happy at the same time.

John ‘Hurrah’ You are absolutely have the right attitude as the owner of Decrnt…Your not bashing other espresso machines and their owners…. Please try to share your attitude to your Decent brethren. I’m so tired of their overzealous/ aggressive attitude in other forums and KZfaq promotions…

I really enjoy watching your videos and hope to own a Decent in the near future! The amount of information, communication, and feedback provided is unmatched when compared to other manufacturers. Once I pass my CPA exams next spring I’m going to upgrade from my Rancilio Silvia to a DEPRO1. # endgamesetup

I have been using my Breville Infuser for about a year, and I can confirm from my experience that what Mr. Decent is saying about the Breville shot profile is how it seems to go. I end up compensating for it with a bunch of tattoos and a loud, bright orange Corvette.....er, um, scratch that...I mean by dialing around 7-9 grind on my Baratza Sette and reducing my shot time from first drip to a max of 20 seconds. I no longer even let the shot turn blond.....who says they have more fun? Anyway, Mr. Decent you are the Elon Musk of espresso, and I am saving my pennies to one day buy one of your machines.

7:38 a contradictio in terminis, Caramel flavour is a characteristic of both darker and lighter roasts? Either way would love to own a decent they seem incredible.

It would be the perfect machine if you would add a steam boiler or find a way to steam a pull a shot on the same time.

the decent looks sooooo awesome, totally getting one soon. Random question, the barista cart behind you, is that a custom built thing ?

That is a great explanation and I know I will progress with my shot skills and probably end up with a decent machine (as I love the science of pulling shots and the control given is unmatched). Wish that more was taught on how to pull the best possible shots on a Breville or othern 9 bar machine. Owning a touch I can say that you can pull a shot with great ratio, prep properly, heat portafilter / group head, no real channeling is visible and all you pull out of the beans is sour flavor or bitter flavor 😢. Lastly, I have seen youtube shots that go way off the ratio wanted, channeling or blonding happens, no way it tastes good.

Can a traditional or vintage lever machine produce good coffee from a light roasted beans ? What is that the things Decent can do and while lever machine cannot ? Thank you !!

I’ve been using a la pavoni for a few years now, but the second I can get my hands on a decent, I will. I have to say though, that la pavonis are fantastic. Lever machines only get better the more you use them. I remember in the beginning having buyer’s remorse, since I wasn’t too happy with the espresso coming out. Now after using it for years and having learned so much more about espresso, I can pull shots better than most good cafes. So if you have a lever machine and are not consistently pulling excellent shots, trust me, it’s not the machine. It’s pretty funny actually that the best espresso machine is really just trying to mimic 60 year old technology.

You discussed Light Roasts, how does the Decent do with Dark or Medium roasts... and why.

So, for someone who has owned a Breville Dual Boiler for a few years and now wants to get to the next level, which machine would give me the best value and longevity? A lever machine like the Londinium or Decent? thanks!

As the coffee dissolves / erodes doesn't the actual brew pressure get reduced even if the machine is trying to do 9 bars? It just be might be a small amount like 9 bar to 8 though.

Hi! I have a question. As the coffee beans are being washed out, the flow increases while the pressure is at 9bar flat, and we don't want that. Could we not keep the flow constant and let the pressure decrease naturally, to get the same good results? kind regards :-)

You are like the Steve Jobs of the espresso world!

For a home user with just a little knowledge of coffee, which model is appropriated? Tks

you can literally do a great shot on a $30 dollar espresso machine..

FWIW you can easily modify the BDB to have a lever profile and you can control it 100% on the fly (via paddle mod) which you can not do on the Decent (unless you have the new group head controller)... So if that's what you are buying the Decent for you can easily save the money and mod the BDB to do the same (Slayer and GS3 MP style pressure and flow profiling). Not saying anything against the Decent as I have used it and enjoy it, but paralysis analysis syndrome is real.

The Breville can pressure profile manually on the fly. (Very easy mod) My question is if the Breville and Decent both do the same profile, will there be a difference in taste ? Lance Hedrick eluded in one of his videos that the taste is not the same.

Why would the Decent have so many profiles if John is saying the Lever profile always makes the best espresso? Thanks

Does the Olimpia Cremina have the spring?

I just wish the shipping was much cheaper.... even if it was like on a boat for long time but 1/4 of price of machine just shipping is too much :(

For the people complaining that they can't afford a Decent machine are the very same people who buy a new $1500 iPhone each year, drive expensive cars, eat out at restaurants, go to the movies, have several paid streaming services, go to the barbers, shop at designer stores and pay high rent to their landlord..

The internet has made shot making impossible. One needs twenty different accessories to perform a shot. It’s ridiculous. These expresso machines are as expensive as cars. If I’m going to spend $4000 on an expresso machine I better be making money from it.

A rooted tablet from China is not coming into my house. Deal breaker right there for Decent.