Sims 1 had CHAOS and actual storylines which we are severely lacking in Sims 4. It’s why I think Sims 4 feels so lifeless half the time.

Looking at how Sims 4 will be 10 years old next year, 14 years really doesn't seem much compared to that

The Sims 1 with seven packs does better than the Sims 4 with its over a hundred packs. Sure, each pack in the Sims 4 has more content, but the Sims 1 has an overall roundness. You get a more coherent playstyle, less bugs and glitches, a consistent way to build your sim's personality, while the Sims 4 has gone through a never-ending soul-searching that didn't really end with many aspects that were tested and soon forgotten (traits, whims, memories, aspirations, learned behaviors, sentiments, likes&dislikes, wants&fears, milestones, etc...) Also, while each expansion pack in The Sims 1 came with just a single subhood with 10 lots, they have a greater lot variety than each world in the Sims 4...

I remember playing the sims 1. I was embarrassed because it was considered lazy and indulgent for a 40 yo to be playing games. I loved it, though. I would play for hours after work, dinner and homework with the boys. Now, it still is a bit judgy out there if we admit to playing games for hours in our 60s, but online it is accepted as natural. Love my sims. I donated the old versions last year. Now someone else can become addicted to the franchise.

As a kid, I remember getting a sims 1 or 2 expansion pack at Walmart and being so excited I would rush my mother to finish grocery shopping so I could get home and spend two hours installing the pack and another 20 minutes waiting for the game to load. Even the new loading screen was exhilarating. Those were the days!

I would gladly play The Sims with all of the expansion packs instead of The Sims 4 with all of the expansion and stuff packs.

I'd actually make the argument that The Sims 1 is the better game generally purely on the case that its content basically all worked out of the box. Because it had to. The industry was completely reliant on physical sales. You couldn't just keep patching a game after launch to fix problems. There wasn't a launcher to automatically keep your game up to date. At best, you had a website with a patch you had to manually download from to fix any issues but there were rarely any major issues to patch. People were paid to beta test these games in advance before release to catch these problems. These days, that's not the case and The Sims 4 is a great example of the fallout of it, where the game releases in a bug-ridden state, needs constant patching, each new expansion and feature is bugged on launch and some of these bugs are still in the game almost a decade after release because they're too busy churning out new DLC to sell that's also bug-ridden... I can't, in good conscience, call a game like that better than a fully functioning predecessor.

Sims 1 is the better game. When you play it you are entering another world made with creativity and passion. Everything in the game serves a purpose and is meticulously designed and thought out. When I played (emphasis on the past tense) the sims 4 - it felt like there was no cohesive vision or passion put into it. Everything in the game feels like it was decided by a vote in a boardroom based on customer surveys and marketing - end result is a wishy washy game that kind of gives everyone a bit of what they want without actually giving anyone what they want - a unique experience

I loved how ambiguous The Sims 1 as a culture was. Weird cities, vague semblances of Hollywood, their music, language, etc. it was more open & bizarre at times. The Sims 4 feels like attempts to make it feel closer to home, which sometimes I don't like as much. Home is fun and it's cool seeing references to stuff I'm familiar with, but irl life has its downsides, and I appreciated how the Sims 1 is more of an escape from reality than how The Sims 4 feels like a reflection of it. Same reason the very realistic look of Life By You actually is throwing me off a bit.

Sims 4 is a mud puddle. They throw in lots of stuff to make it look big on the surface, but it has no depth behind it at all

Thank you for pointing out that sims team treats us like literal children. I couldn’t pinpoint why I cringe so much while watching sims events (or rather avoiding them). Sims 1 Making Magic was my ultimate favorite pack, it had so much charm, even those little dragon pets that used to set your whole household on fire and were basically untamable, but you worked so hard to get one! or that you had to have magic coins to buy a house in magic world and it was something to work towards. And at night you had those noises that scared the living s**t out of you. It had character! It was challenging and interesting. There was a book with hidden recipes. Duels were actually clever and victory depended on your choices. Coins falling from the sky in literal piles. Transforming cats into humans. Flamingo transforming into dancers. The list just goes on.. And what do we have in the sims 4? The most generic magic you could think of. Clean your toilet with magic, yippee! So disappointing.

The sims: makin' magic is still the best magic system of all games. Unique effects, unique gameplay and nice goals (to study all spells and charms, to buy a house in magic realm), fun atmosphere and not just a cheat code with animation.

Sims 4 seems like they randomly throw stuff at the wall. Like they have a dart board of things then release these hyper specific packs. Sims 1 packs often felt like they added to the overall gameplay of every player. Sims 4 has a few packs like this, but for the most part it seems like they loose something in being hyper focused on one thing (like bowling for example which was a small feature in larger packs in Sims 2 and 3 but sold as a focused pack in 4).

The Sims 1 out of the box in 2000 is the better game when compared to The Sims 4 when it was released in 2014. It has been almost 10 years of them fleshing out the TS4 base game. I think that for a better and fairer comparison, you would have to compare them without DLCs and consider them in the state of their release and the receptions they got at their release so as to remove both nostalgia and recency bias and account for the difference in technologies and it's time-sensitive expectations. There is a reason why so many people turned on the game and EA upon TS4's release... The lack of quality control and bug fixes when they released TS3's last dlc to, in theory, focus on TS4 only to release the game with so many lacking features from its predecessor despite being the newest iteration of the game. The Sims 1 upon its release was a complete functional game that gave you a full experience for the technology of its time. It was a revolutionary game at the time, with great quality from the original music, humor, and challenges that it presented. On the other hand, TS4 was, and arguably still is, a setback for the franchise in that it is more like a hodgepodge of badly implemented ideas than a full game, it manages to feel both lacking and bloated at the same time.

I rediscovered Sims 3 and it’s way more fun than Sims 4

i feel like they’re similar games but the sims 1 has more love and the sims 4 is more like the same features with no love or ambition

I can't watch the Behind the Sims livestreams because of the cringe. It's the fake enthousiasm, the fake joy, everyone is smiling too much and the acting is so forced. I physically CANNOT watch it, at least with the sound on. And I couldn't put a word on it until you said it : yes to the patronizing thing. I feel like they think I'm an idiot when they are over excited to tell me that the next pack with just horses is gonna be a ✨ brand new expansion pack✨.

The sims 4 feels like a half-baked alternate universe fanfiction of the sims franchise.

The reason i think ts1 is a better game tbh i think can be summarised very simply: when ts1 released, people weren't disappointed. It came with plenty to do for the time. When ts4 released, and it was stripped down and cartoon-ified and super pg and basically had no personality, people were disappointed, and they continue to be disappointed to this day. The fanbase nowadays is just reluctantly here it feels like, which i think is the major difference. The vibe/atmosphere is just... sad. Any hype and joy is now gone. People are basically just biding their time until either ts5 (which is technically called project rene ughh) or one of these other rival life sims release and it's just kinda depressing ngl

imagine all of the sims games combined with the look of the sims 4😳 the things i'd do for that omfg

It's quite funny actually. When The Sims 1 came out, I was 9 years old and the adult themes probably weren't exactly appropriate for my age (looking at you birthday cake stripper 😂). And now that I'm older, The Sims 4 feels so juvenile. It irritates me how censored they've made it at the cost of the quirky personality that The Sims franchise is known for; driving my point that The Sims 4 is only successful because of the title of "The Sims" and it's reaping the reward based on an existing reputation. It's nothing like it was meant to be.

EA/Maxis delivering everything to us like a children’s show is indeed patronizing, and I hate it too. That the Sims 4 is rated for teens and up, but is really “safe” enough for kids to play irritates me, not just because other Sims games weren’t like that. Too many things/events/places, etc., are padded now “for the children.” Not everything should be child friendly. If your argument against that is that children need space to be children, well adults need space to be adults too, without having to censor themselves for their kids or somebody else’s kids.

Your footage of the beach vacation lot highlights another thing they did really well in TS1: attention to detail and cross-pack compatibility. That vacation lot had pet beds and pet bowls added to it when they released Unleashed. They thought through that people would want to take their pets on vacation, and modified the existing lots from a different EP to have the items needed. If the same situation existed in TS4 (pets only being able to sleep in pet beds/eat from pet bowls), they'd either bar them from coming on holiday entirely, or it'd be up to you to add pet items into vacation lots yourself. There are obviously some cross-pack features in TS4, but it tends to be limited to interactions or coding existing activities to fit within specific systems (e.g. Seasons festivals). You don't get ambitious stuff like when Makin' Magic had a spell to turn your pet into a human, or make you instantly famous if you had Superstar installed. If TS4 had the level of detail, cohesion, and whimsy TS1 had, your spellcasters from Realm of Magic would probably be able to turn horses human if you had Horse Ranch installed, with a chance of it backfiring and turning them into a centaur or something. Speaking of magic, TS1's magic was so fun because it involved effort, so didn't just feel like a cheat mode, and also involved risk. Okay, the fines were a pittance, but no sims game since Makin' Magic has made you use magic discreetly or face repercussions - RIP The Spellchecker.

The Sims 1 has way more gameplay and fun, how is the Sims 4 a better game "in general"? I judge a game on its GAMEPLAY and Sims 4 gameplay is horrendous (and not even technologically stable, as it's full of bugs that further hinders gameplay and enjoyment).

I didn't play The Sims 1, but oh my. Those clips of you playing it bring me memories of me playing SimSafari and SimPark (both Maxis games) in my childhood. 🤪

I loved The Sims especially the pets expansion ❤ you could go to the shop and adopt a pet which was so amazing to me

I Love how satch Upload this video at 6:00am im living in Asia So my country Clock more fast than Europe

id LOVE if you did a pack vs pack comparison like id love sims u leashed vs sims 4 pets lol

5:00 thiss 😭 ppl always say that ts4 has sooo much content and so many features but honestly I would rather them focus on more requested obvious features than random stuff they do sometimes that noone uses

I wish more people would talk about the add-ons Sims 1 had, like Facelift XL, or Create-a-Celeb.

The best part of Sims 1 unleashed was the competitions.. would love those back

I understand what you are saying and have to somewhat disagree. Yes, it does not feel like Sims 4 is a real part of the Sims franchise. But realizing that Maxis had very very little input from players in comparison to Sims 4 and still doesn't give players what they ask for. Ok the LOOK is better, totally agree, but is the trait system they have in 4 actually better than 1? Being as most of the time those traits have absolutely no impact on the sim, I say no. They basically added Bonehilda to the paranormal pack to shut up fans who wanted her, but was it really her? I say no. Realm of Magic is beautiful, but is it really as encompassing as Making Magic? Really, it's not. And there are still things in Sims 1 that are NOT in Sims 4, like alarm clocks. It's not just the humor, what is the actual goal of Sims 4? It's not an aspiration, you can change those, so how is that different from Sims 1 without having a goal? You made your own goal, just like in Sims 4. Peel off the paint and there is really not much difference in a lot of it but considering that in Sims 1 the sims are mostly stuck on their lot but things still HAPPEN, fire was practically a character in Sims 1. And really Sims 1 babies was in Sims 4, seriously? I mean SERIOUSLY? And what's sad and scarey are the things in Sims 1 that should not be features but are not in Sims 4, like the alarm clocks but there are more. How is that possible after all those packs and all these years of Sims 4? How does my sims feel more unique in Sims 1 than Sims 4, without cc? Overall, the Sims 1 was a GAME and Sims 4 was created more for "storytelling" than playing a game, they ALWAYS say about telling a story, but they don't talk about playing a game. Maybe that's the real difference, it's hard to really put your finger on it. But the real goal of Sims 1 was to do as much as you could while keeping your sim alive because that was work itself. The humor now, I don't feel like 4 is goofy and fun, I feel like they threw us a bone each time there is something "funny". And yes, their livestreams are not just geared towards kids they are downright looking at us in disdain, like they think we're stupid and childish, everyone of us. My nieces said that! The livestreams from Sims 2 and 3 (though not as many) were enthusiatic and fun not because they had to hire an actress to play a part but because they were totally into the game and wanted to show it to us. Not any more. And for Sims 1 all we had was a disc from Making Magic telling us about Sims 2. You say in every video how there is nothing in the worlds to do, so how is it so great that we have so many world that are beautiful and unique that do nothing for us? I'd rather be stuck in a lot like Sims 1 and 2. I do have to say that Sims 1 actually had active career for becoming a celebrity, that was the first and it was more in depth than Sims 4. But really, other than the live careers, what is more in depth in the jobs in Sims 4 than Sims 1? Sims 1 at least had a car come pick them up not just disappear off the lot. Being as Sims 1 was the first, lol, I should hope it feels like The Sims, but that is kinda the point a lot of players have. Sims 4 does not feel like a SIMS game, it doesn't measure up to a lot of things in Sims 1, graphics and larger set for scenery (that you can't do anything with) don't make 4 better. I will give equal in a lot of ways, but I can't make myself say that on a whole 4 is BETTER than 1. Just can't do it.

I can only play ts4 with mods. Ts1, ts2, and ts3 are playable with just the content released. I still play ts2 and ts3.

I saw a mod to play TS1 in 3D. I'm thinking about it because the gameplay is TS1 is fantastic. I was just vexing about lack of bios this morning. I'm currently playing my TS4 Old Town (all characters and homes and several community lots). Claire Charming is in the medical career right now.

Off topic but you're so handsome and that accent only makes it better. I need you to visit Belgium 😂😂

My ultimate sims game would be the building, character creation, and quality of life features of sims 4, the open world and traits of sims 3, Wants/fears, and memories of sims 2, the style, tone, difficulty of sims 1.

I think the prices with sims 4 are quite expensive, expansion packs should NOT be almost £40 but... kinda unpopular opinion but the packs come with quite alot of features, you just have to look a little harder. like seasons came with SO many features, lottery, scouts, loads of different characters.

2:29 I’d love to know the real statistics (not done by ea). I started playing in my 20’s, I’m now middle aged & I was the youngest in my social circle who also played since TS1. The oldest is now 62. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I have a version of hot date that was recalled for being too rude (Australia).

I think the Sims franchise would be saved if they just merged all the games together

I wish cats and dogs came with dog houses like in the sims 1 unleashed.

Sims 1 is still a timeless classic with the packs that are filled so much in content. Each pack is a lot to offer and provide so much gameplay and fun moments. Sure Sims 4 have better CAS and build mode, with better graphics, but that is given because technology has improved over the years. If these are worse than Sims 1 than we have a problem.

Is there any way for me to play sims 1?

That is a thing I keep hearing in the gaming community, and I haven't yet been able to agree with it. "It's a good/better game, but it's not a good/better _ game."

I loved the first Sims, Sims 2 remains the benchmark for me. Each of the games has its own charms, but 4 is still coming in dead last for me. It’s just so boring. But I’m old and I’m probably doing it wrong. 😂

I always wanted to play the first sims series on pc I did play the ps2 version I'm thinking of build a pc for the first sims series and the sims 2

What I like about fans are that they are very observant of the content.

The Sims 1 is much more engaging to play and funnier indeed. It is definitely my favorite game. It kept me entertained for hours and I couldn't get enough of it . I just think the Sims 4 looks nice (graphics) and is suitable for building beautiful buildings or CAS. But I no longer enjoy playing with the Sims figures themselves. And in general after building for an hour in de sims4 I'm bored. Most of te time I like it more to watch others play and build in youtube video's then playing the game myself. I really had to get used to it when I switched from Sims 1 in my youth.... to the Sims 4 years later. It is indeed not what it used to be anymore. Such a pity. And the background music and sounds from for example the television in the game at the time was also legendary lol.... It's a shame that The Sims 1 is no longer available for purchase anywhere, including the music, I would loooooovvveee to play it again.

TS4 is renounced from the sims in my life lol

Hoe kunnen ze beweren dat De Sims 4 niks te maken heeft met haar voorgangers, als families als Van de Kerkhof erin zitten?

Can we move on to Sims 2?

I miss the stuff in sims 1 because it had more to do especially with making magic. They have to do better. They need to take notes from sims 1 2 and 3 I hope it gets better in the future. 🤦🏽‍♀️ #EA #Sims4

I loved all the old games However, multitasking in Sims 4 gameplay makes the old games frustrating.

I have to say, for me, sims 1 is the better game. When I played the game, I would spend maybe 10 minutes in character development, then the rest of the time playing the game. I would play for an hour or so, and actually do things. Making my family, then playing in the magic world. Playing with the other sims in the game. Sims 4 I spend so much time in character development, and barely any in actual game play.

Objectively, TS1 had better gameplay and more content. The only aspects TS4 is better at is visual stuff (CAS, graphics) and mainstream appeal.

If you compare a FIFA of around 2014-2016 with FIFA 2001, you have a clear answer of which game is the best. It's funny how for The Sims it's still something to debate which one is better.

Pleease download the sims 2 and do a gameplay, its soo fun, dont do a review an ACTUAL LETS PLAY!! A lot of us would be happy, thank you🥰🥰🥰🥰

Sims 1 DLCs have more contents than TS4 tbh... And Sims 1's gameplay are less broken than TS4 ETA: The dark humor of The Sims 1 makes it edgier than TS4

At lest you don't need mods to make the gameplay better in the sims 1 like you do in the sims 4 plus sims 1 is a 32 bit game sims 1 2 & 3 all ways will be better than the sims 4

Agreed on sims 4 missing the mark...

It's become a cash grab; hence splitting features between more stand alone addons and expansion packs. You could fit 5 sims 4 expansion and stuff pack features and items into each sims 1 expansion.

Yes to the Sims 4 being childish. The live streams, the announcements, the trailers...Ugh. I miss the crudeness and the chaos that came with the original games.

Wow my memory is really off. I could have sworn that The Sims came out in the late 90s and not in 2000 😂 I'm too dang old lol. They made the Sims 4 for the snowflakes. Plus, there are SO MANY missed opportunities that the sims team could put certain items into packs. Like how are you going to put a tavern in Horse Ranch and not put a billiards table? Or put that in another big EP like City Living, University or something that involves the bars a bit. Also, where can you even get the Sims 1 and the EPs now? I'm scared to just download something random without knowing if it is legit and virus free or not.

The sims 1 didn’t need packs or CC/mods to be fun. No further discussion needed!

And sims4 didnt even progress after almost ten years.sims1 had the worst CAS but ppl spent hours playing the actual gameplay whereas sims4, even with good CAS, the gameplay is shallow and too easy.

It only has better graphics other than that its just a sad little game frfr

EA is just so dumb. Their businesses practices speak to greed yet they failed hard when they didn’t release an updated complete sims 1 collection on the 20th anniversary. There is clearly plenty of people that still want to play it and would pay for the simplicity of an updated version they can download install and enjoy vs researching if their machine can use work arounds to run their old discs or finding an older machine to play it on as well as having space for those beasts to exist. Even laptops back then were monsters. Nah, give them a shitty hot tub and make an entire stuff packs purpose worthless and insult everyone who bought that DLC before the free hot tub was patched in for the anniversary… Just wow. Seriously how often can a company get a fan base to buy an outdated game. To profit off an old launch title *a second time*. It blows my mind they continue to pass it up.

I feel this comparison is not fair, hear me out: When comparing TS1 and TS4 people need to keep in mind that the amount of effort spent on each pack for their generation is vastly different. Like, if we assume that maxis/EA is using the same amount of resources for both games (as in staff members, time, money), of course they could make much more gameplay for TS1 than they could for TS4. TS1 graphics were quite simple to make (mostly due to hardware limitations at the time) - however each 3D model for TS4 has much more details, more polygons, more colors and they also add so much more furniture for your home than what you got in TS1 (ex: kitchen appliances and cabinets). In TS1 you mostly got new gameplay objects with each pack, but for other stuff in your household you still had to work with base game furniture. And there weren't any colour swatches, so not a lot of options to combine different kinds of furniture. The technical aspect is also very different in each generation. I'm not an expert in this topic, but from what I can tell, TS1 had it's own challenges (ex: they had to make each pack fully functional by launch, because there wasn't a game launcher which could install bug fix patches for the player from the internet. The game had to work offline too. They would either have to manually install downloaded patches or buy the next expansion pack, as that would include bug fixes for previous packs). TS1 could also easily be corrupted, because almost everything in there was hard coded. On the other side, the game's mechanics were simplified enough, so you while adding new gameplay features, there were less obstacles to work with. Right now I can only think of small things like path finding: In TS1 it was clear for the player that Sims couldn't walk through a door if another sim or an object was blocking that door. In real life you could probably find a way to squeeze in between a small space, but in TS1 this wasn't possible. The player knew when placing an object: The green highlighted space around the object is where my Sim can't walk through, so I need to make the room big enough so they can walk around it. In TS4 they need to pay attention to so many little things to make it feel like a modern game (but even then the game feels dated, because the engine is 10 years old lol). Sticking to the pathfinding example: In TS4 Sims are very flexible when manoeuvring around objects and other sims. Yes, sometimes they phaze through walls and sims and it looks stupid, but this is a bug that happens with extremely tight spaces (either in a tiny room or if the room is too crowded). Most of the time the Sims do a pretty good job at path finding. That gives you a lot of freedom in placing objects with the bb.moveobjects cheat code activated while still keeping them fully functional. The developers are making that possible for each object they add through DLCs. Conclusion: Producing TS4 DLCs needs soooo much more work compared to TS1. More staff, more time, more coding effort, more design, modelling and animation effort, the list goes on. It makes sense that the newer packs will become smaller with less gameplay comparatively, or else we would only get one DLC per year for 50 Dollars or more. At this time I also feel like expansion packs are too expensive initially, but on sales with 50-75% off it's a good deal (at least that's what I do, I never get the packs shortly after launch). I would never pay more than 25 dollars on a DLC. I'm also not a great fan of EA and their shenanigans of shitting out buggy games on launch thanks to pressuring their staff with tight deadlines. It's disgusting that this is what we have to deal with nowadays. Yet I don't feel it's completely fair to say a 23 year old game is better because there was a lot of crazy stuff to do while the technical effort behind creating the game was so much simpler than what the current generation has to work with. About the argument on TS1 "feeling" like a better sims game - yeah, I guess I can see where you're coming from. But I feel this might be due to the fact that many people from back then did work on TS2 and TS3 as well, but they got a lot of new staff for TS4. It's a generational and cultural issue, I think. Different people have different priorities and ideas.

If sims 4 would do what planet coaster does with dlc I'd be a lot happier. Planet coaster has a dlc pass witch is a subscription service that gives you all the dlc for $7.99 a month

Graphics means nothing to asethetic. If it has polygons and needs a high end pc to run, doesnt mean it looks better especially if the art direction and style of the game is off high end sprites and the right view. I find 4 to look ugly and lifeless, sims is full of charm and warmth in everything made. Dont defend a corporation with such a boring take

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In 4 years and 4 months you won't be able to say that Sims 1 is more of a Sims experience anymore - as between The Sims 4 and whatever monstrosity Project René becomes, the Sims will have been that for more time than TS1-TS3 combined.