Agreed. Expecially for me, a kitbasher lover, I can make dozen of teams just for fun, following compenium rules for fire groups, I did for Kommandos and Vet Guard but new elite kill teams are full of rules per member, just a page just for a model in some cases. Ok, cool. Thats competitive, I guess. For me its not fun studying a bible of rules just for a team, coz sure ad the sun that will rise tomorrow, I will forget many of them in game.

Awsome if its not an issue would you tell me what you have in yiur list please?how many operatives?and how many cultists?what load outs they all have ?

@@Gauzy_ Yeah, sure dude. My favourite list by far is to have: -Champ w/plasma pistol & power fist -Heavy gunner w/Heavy bolter -Warrior or icon bearer w/bolter For the cultists I use: -Gunner w/flamer -Gunner w/heavy stubber -4 cultists w/ auto guns -2 cultists w/auto pistol & assault weapon For the tac ops I run them as infiltrate, as I find it the most fun. Rush your cultists forward to score any VP you can, whether through tac ops or primary objectives. The reason I use two melee cultists is because they're so good for ensuring I can score the 'implant device' tac op and possibly do a bit of chip damage before they're killed. Run one to the other end of the board to score the 'seize defences' tac op And then another fun one to use is 'stalk target', though it can be hard to pull off. Use your marines to do the heavy damage and don't forget to use their excellent strategic ploys to shoot and fight twice with them. Remember it doesn't affect cultists. And last thing to remember is to use a CP on 'strike from within' to place a cultist almost anywhere on the board before turn 1 to score one of your opponents objectives or to make a play for a tac op.

Oh and for equipment. -Suspensor system for heavy gunner -malefic rounds for heavy gunner -Sacrificial dagger for champ -grenade on a cultist

I am very much of the opinion that you should just use digital rules. Now, getting 6 months of use out of a book is decent enough imo, but there's really very little need for it. Most factions have had an update from a balance dataslate as well. Personally I idea wahapedia or ktdash. My physical books are just taking up space I literally don't use them. But I do accept that most people learn better from physical media, so it's up to you. If you just want the datacards then of course use philtean

Well, I'm not sure if I'd say the 6 stealth suits are super viable... but they're fun! Hierotek Circle are a really good team and the Chronomancer is an astounding model that will win you the game every time, or lose you the game if the enemy snipes him out. It's a very different team to the Compendium Necrons, so don't expect the same play experience, but it's definitively a stronger team. Oh, just be absolutely sure you understand how Reanimation Protocols actually works, because it's not clear. At all. In fact, I think it is tied for the worst written rule in the game. For just raw clarity, it's impossible to read right the first time.

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That'd be the Imperial Guard kill team, they can take two fireteams of Guardsmen, or one fireteam of Guardsmen and one of Tempestus Scions, or two fireteams of Scions. You can find them in the Compendium, or online.

Im pretty sure he is talking about Season, not edition. There are no plans, not even rumors, right now.

It's speculation at this point but GW is pretty consistently on a 3 year cycle for all their major game updates (see 40k, AOS, even KT itself - it was released in 2018 and the new, current version in 2021) Regardless of when the new version comes out, we can just hope that most/all of the teams from this edition are still usable (or just play the older version 🤷‍♂️)

I have not heard this anywhere. White dwarf teams are as valid as every other specialist team. If you mean the compendium Harlequins then they are not tournament legal, you need to use their white dwarf team instead

@@GlassHalfDead ah ok I just saw they were in deleted tier and maybe I missed it but didn't hear why you put them there.

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I'm with you on that hope. I am enjoying this game and my group is a healthy mix of compendium and bespoke teams. The rules are easy to get into and the depth of tactics and choices during the game are incredible.

Yea they haven't even released alternate bespoke options for every faction. There's no need for a new edition yet.

Yes. You get two fire team choices for Craftworld, and Storm Guardians and Guardian Defenders are both Fire Team options available to you.

@@losethegame101 I think that's what I misunderstood. I thought the fireteams had to be the same type. That's good to know! So I could do a mix of Guardian Defenders with a heavy weapons platform and then also some Storm Guardians? That could be something fun for me. I don't currently play any GW games, but I think I might start getting into Kill Team.

Astartes come in boxes of 10, so you're good to go. Veterans are a specialist team and have rules very specifically for playing them as a 10 model team :) And if you want to get picky, Dire Avengers, Rangers, Scions etc come in boxes of 5 so aren't one box teams. Whatevs, it's close enough.

I know it’s not as competitive, but I enjoy running Vet Guard with the combat support option of the guided missile and strafing run with ver the extra 4 infantryman. Helped me a lot when learning the game, still fun now.