COMPLETE GUIDE to ARROW BUILDING | 4 different FLETCH STYLES
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4 жыл бұрынCOMPLETE GUIDE to ARROW BUILDING | 4 different FLETCH STYLES Ever wanted to learn how to build your own arrows? Well this is a complete arrow build walk through as we build arrows with FOUR DIFFERENT fletching styles. Comments/questions about how to build? Drop them below we'll answer!
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@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
What are you all fletching with? What's your arrow setup looking like? We've got some tinkering to share.... ESPECIALLY this arrow test, going to be really fun to test 4 different styles of fletching..
@Herewithpopcorn 4 жыл бұрын
I dont do my own fletching yet.
@odinsarrow1343 4 жыл бұрын
I got 6 Gold Tip Pierce platinums, fletched them all a different way with the "goat tuff fletcher" lol it’s about $40 but works. I actually did do a 2 & a 3 ° degree helical on some 4 fletch and they fly great. My best arrow is my 3 fletch 3° LEFT helical, which I had to do kind of do it by hand because the Fletcher only goes right. So I had to flip the insert and hold it in by hand, it was pretty crazy. Ended up being my most accurate buddy. But this is great content and I recommend everyone get into this process to learn. What are your thoughts on the AAE Max Hunter's??
@mattm7108 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using a Bohning pro class jig and running a 4 fletch 90/90 with a hard right helical. looking to experiment with 3 fletch for better F.O.C and maybe gain some speed? i have been using wraps as well but going to experiment without. just like the added visibility when retrieving an arrow. total arrow weight is currently 450 grains +/- 3 grains . love the videos, very insightful!
@renatugaming5730 3 жыл бұрын
I recently got a new grayling fletching jig, just using aluminum shafts (target shooter here but like watching videos like this) with left degree helical, don't know what degree it's not listed on Lancaster Archery Supply lol 10.3 grains is what I am running per fletching for 3 fletch. Don't really care about FOC but I will be using a light 54 grain point that is coming with the Easton Tribute shafts
@robertmiller6822 Жыл бұрын
Mostly use aae max stealth with a left helical usually 3 vanes.
@timbow50 2 жыл бұрын
Hey folks- KZfaq "1nestly" and see some great slow mo of different fletching set ups. This guy does it so awesome. Uses a shooting machine. And you find that the set and how many vanes isn't that super relevant to great arrow flight. ABT is my thing too and I have used 4 vanes in the past. Even if it's a mind thing that's ok too. 3 deg. left-right, 4 vanes at 1-2 degrees is great if it's what makes u more confident.
@RockyMountainWest13 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad I found this channel. I’ve learned more about arrow builds in the last couple weeks than I ever did since I got into archery. Thank you guys so much for making such awesome informative videos.
@ElkShape Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@loganburke135 4 жыл бұрын
Great content! I'll be fletching up my arrows today in the downtime! ABT!
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
ABT!
@steven_farmer89 3 жыл бұрын
Dan's dig at Inslee was nice, nothing too mean but living in Washington i understood completely. A great video, going Elk hunting for the first time with a Bow this year; I have been binge watching all of your videos and it has been helpful. Thanks
@theklutzyoutdoorsman5265 4 жыл бұрын
Holy cow! That helical looks crazy!
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
It is!
@jimpage6533 Жыл бұрын
I've shot 4 fletch 4" feathers right wing helical for 40 yrs and I had never heard of clocking before . I've learned something and will be doing some experimenting. I use BPE PRO Series fletching jigs!
@kennycoye3907 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid! Accually learned alot!! Now, I with I had all my gear here in N.D. working because were shut down for breaking down!! Dangit, would this be a fun project to do!! Great job! Headed to SVA when back! If were allowed!!! Lol. And at 23:00, I am writing that down! So true!!
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
lol yessir! glad you learned something
@juanrodriguez-mu7ko 3 ай бұрын
Nice Tim you do a lot better now!
@ransom8212 4 ай бұрын
This video was very helpful for me to decide which kindo f vane configuration I wanted to switch to when I get my new vanes.
@mattgoin 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid! I did 6 of the small max pro vanes on a maxima sd with 3⁰ of offset. They are darts. But I ran into weight differences in a few of the groups of 6 vanes. They work great with all broadheads I've tried so far! Keep up the bad ass content bro
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt - appreciate your input
@XXXston3wallXXX Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@jacobgowdy1594 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video! My arrow setup for this season is 200gr. Cutthroat Broadheads, 120gr. Ethics Archery SS inserts, 200 spine BE Spartans, Q2i Archery Fusion X II Zeon vanes. Total weight 709.3gr and 18.4% FOC
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
nice
@noneyabusiness4325 3 жыл бұрын
My current arrow setup runs a four fletch Pro Hunter vane with a wrap and 3 degrees of helical on them. Fly pretty lights out to 82yds (longest shot on Yeti course at Terry Peak,SD TAC). Easton Axis 300 spine, cut to 27.75”, standard HIT insert and 100gr points.
@jebfishing3426 3 жыл бұрын
That 60 120 fletching looks like an X wing starfighter 😂 looks kind of wicked 🤘🏾
@mickeysozarkadventures7379 4 жыл бұрын
Hey guys thanks for the practical video and explaining why you’re doing what you’re doing. Also thanks for stressing that it’s about the journey, that is one of our core beliefs. Question. You said that you run a left helical all the time: have you ever experienced a broadhead trying to rotate out or loosen itself? Heard someone else talk about it. Hoping to get set up for building our own arrows soon and trying to learn. Thanks
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
I actually have had solid broadheads loosen a touch... Nothing that was concerning but I didn't associate with the helical, maybe that is true... We absolutely wanted to show the process & journey that's what it's all about.. - TC
@that_one_guy117x 4 жыл бұрын
I’m really excited to see the test video, I just finished my new arrow build, I’m running feathers 4 fletch 1/2 degree offset, will see how they fly when 100 grain Kudupoint Broadheads get here
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
We're excited to do the test video and publish it
@thefortnitegamer442 4 жыл бұрын
When fletching left helical or offset does it unscrew your field points/ broadheads ?????
@that_one_guy117x 4 жыл бұрын
Isaiah Trujillo I haven’t ran into that, my last set up was three feathers right 3 degrees helical
@ruebencaballero9511 4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff guys. That stach though! I have a 26.5 draw so my arrows look like darts lol. I went with FMJ’s and put a 75 grain brass insert on those. Hard hitting with a 100 grain broadhead, but I noticed the speed went way down. I’m experimenting right now with some axis with 50 grain brass. All fun
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
word up RUEBEN - your arrows might be shorter than Dan's... But's it's not the length of the arrow they say, it's how you use it lol... - TC
@JamesBond-oc4gm 3 жыл бұрын
@@ElkShape I see what you did there 🤣🤣🤣
@newmexican53 4 жыл бұрын
Just started trying a four fletch with the mini blazers with a 2 degree offset and found them to be more consistent with field points than a 3 degree helical. Also they seemed to perform almost the exact same as a 3 degree helical with a magnus buzzcut stinger attached at 50 in the wind.
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@jacobspath4793 6 ай бұрын
You should consider revising this content. You've clearly learned a lot since then...
@BadKarma.- 4 жыл бұрын
Dr. Ed Ashby's research and reports into FOC and heavy arrows is what made FOC a hot topic in the hunting world. Its hard to dispute his research considering the amount of qualification/test he's done
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
What was the dispute?
@BadKarma.- 4 жыл бұрын
@@ElkShape there wasn't one on the video, there are just people out there that try to argue against it.
@robolyn 2 жыл бұрын
Hey nice video guys. I know I'm late to the party but since you asked, I run a 90° 4 fletch and yes I do run them with a helical. They spin very well and they fly like laser beams out to 100 yards 👍. Keep tinkering👍
@thejonathanmooney Жыл бұрын
what jig do you use for a 4 fletch helical?
@robolyn Жыл бұрын
@@thejonathanmooney I use a bitzenburger jig or an arizona ez fletch
@backcountry_PRWLR 4 жыл бұрын
For those that don't like using acetone to clean your arrows, aluminum or carbon, I use a magic eraser, dawn dish soap and warm water. Let dry and fletch away. A quick minute with some elbow grease and your set! 👊
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
word up! thanks for sharing
@tylersalisbury6254 3 жыл бұрын
I would recommend the victory, vap tko stainless steel, them things are amazing, a .001 straightness, micro diameter with a 50 grain outsert, these arrows are absolute beasts
@msarchery7053 2 жыл бұрын
110 grain ethics inserts in mine, 125 Iron Will's. 580 grains of fury.
@ryanmcnichol3914 4 жыл бұрын
I order my arrows from deer crossing arrows and get the silencers(mirco arrows) and I’m using the deep six inserts from iron will weighing 75 grains. For fletchings dca will customize however you want so last year I used 3 blazers this year I’m trying fusion 2.1 4 fletch and they’re a lighter vane and lower profile and from what I’ve read that’s the benefit of 4 fletch you can use smaller low profile vanes and still get the steerage and lower profile benefits when shooting in the wind.
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
interesting, cool to hear that
@anthonyhelms2817 4 жыл бұрын
I do use a 4 fletch with a big fixed blade and high FOC but I'm using Q2i Griff 1.8" that are stiff low profiles (4 of em weigh as much as 3 blazers) and are fletched in a slight right offset (about 2deg) not helical and fly like darts. BE Rampage 300's , 28" C2C, Ethics 100gr insert, vanes mentioned above, and looking like 150gr Cutthroats
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
word up !!
@Favorites2499 3 жыл бұрын
Pro tip is the little white stone that the hit or deep six inserts come with, also chamfers the arrow as well.
@matthewkubik3874 4 жыл бұрын
I use hot melt and the new stainless half out inserts Easton came out with this year!
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
Word up! We're going to be tinkering with inserts/outserts/collars next year for sure!
@AlbeeSoaring 2 жыл бұрын
Great channel so far I am learning so much. I am farely new to Archery so for give me if this is a dumb question. Is there a benefit to cutting down arrows that are 32" length if I have a 29" draw?
@stick__shooter 4 жыл бұрын
Agree on outserts! I didn’t like them at all running them in Black Eagle Rampage, and didn’t care for the half-outs either. Standard inserts work great! No experience with HIT inserts...
@Frozenwingsapiary 4 жыл бұрын
Just did a 4 fletch 90/90 1 degree left for my turkey arrow. The Magnus Bull head 3-3/4 need the extra steer ability but not the extra spin of a 3 degree. Also use the EZ fletch, I think the 60/120 is meant for crossbows.
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
60/120 will still get tested lol ... it's built now
@waynejohnson6889 4 жыл бұрын
Been fletching arrows for 20 years - currently use AAE Max Hunter vanes on my AXIS 260 arrows - and you do NOT need to prime before you fletch. I also use basic superglue and have have no problems. Also I only allow a slow 10 count - little over 10 seconds per vane when fletching.
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
Ya the Owner of AAE (one of them) was on The ElkShape Podcast and we talked about using primer pens - you can listen here elkshape.podbean.com/mf/play/pxjm4s/AAE_FINAL.mp3
@701garage 4 жыл бұрын
I have had good luck with my outsert Firenock. Never had one break by the outsert. Had they break in the middle of the shaft that was only due to deer jumping and land on it.
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
that's cool to hear
@donatedgnome4552 4 жыл бұрын
Could you possibly make a video about clocking your arrows? Curious on how to exactly do it. Thanks.
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
We could certainly make a detailed video.. The cliff notes is shoot from 5-10 feet away, mark your arrow at the nock, shoot with fletchings off, see which way the arrow spins... Shoot enough arrows to find the pattern 5-15ish
@jasonmelby6221 4 жыл бұрын
I love building arrows, this was a fun video to watch. Keep em coming. I’ve been tinkering with my setup and I’ve been wanting to try a 4 fletch. I currently have the Arizona easy fletch and it does a wicked helical. Have you tried the ethics archery spinning inserts? I put those in my latest batch of arrows and have had some interesting results with them but haven’t had a chance to test them at longer distances yet. Curious on your take of the spinning inserts.
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think either of us have tested them yet... Thanks for watching!
@mikehancho3500 2 жыл бұрын
I have never cleaned them out using all types of glues u found the carbon dust left behind makes for a better bond
@KenH-fh5wm 3 жыл бұрын
If you are looking for options to see how objectively these different styles shoot, i would be interested to see what the impact of these different fletch configurations have on arrow speed and downrange drop, wind drift and overall accuracy. Rotation happens with friction to the air as the bullets travel, i would suspect that the more they spin the tighter the group, but also the slower they are and drop increases down range
@notbulbous42 7 ай бұрын
Cut about 2" off the back of the arrow, before you cut off the front. Most variance, even on quality or match grade shafts, are from the ends. It will make a more consistent arrow in my experience.
@mattiecreates 2 жыл бұрын
The video i watched previous to this one he shot a left helical a straight and a right helical and did 3 rounds each at 20 30 50 yards ect and found the ri9ght and straight held the best group and the right helical was overall winner. he hypothesis was tht the left clocking arrows with the left helical spun to fast causing them to go more wonky. i would really like to see you guys test this out! Cause if his theory is right than you just make a left clocking arrow less accurate by adding a 3 degree left fletching. his channel is trippleR woods outdoors. check out the video he did i think you guys recreating it would be awesome
@fireinmybones86 3 жыл бұрын
What were the results? Which fletching provided the best flight and grouping?
@garrettstraffon608 2 жыл бұрын
See I just got some max stealth veins and they was the heaviest fletch knock on archery sold. But I want to try them. But I also heard about the tac vein they are half the weight of a max stealth
@tylersweeney22 Жыл бұрын
I'm about to go to glue in points for practice and target and then for hunting switch to outserts/inserts. Keep them the same weight though just so it's easier to pull from targets. I've lost a few just from pulling out of targets. Even with epoxy they'll still come out after a while. I do however shot my bow alot, at least 4 days a week.
@johncannady6105 4 жыл бұрын
When using the squaring tool it is best to mark the end with a silver Sharpie and then rotate the arrow in the tool until all of the silver mark is gone. It takes many more rotations then was demonstrated in the video to obtain a perfectly square arrow end. Also, I would recommend you square BOTH ends because they are not perfect on the nock end from the factory. Another point: Denatured alcohol or Acetone is best for cleaning carbon dust from inside the arrow prior to gluing your inserts. Rubbing alcohol contains oil and other additives that could interfere with its cleaning abilities and leaves a residue.
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
sounds like you've built a few bullets yourself.. thanks for sharing
@jeffzirkle8728 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts as well. I was surprised a proshop that doesn't square both ends. I am also surprised you did not spin the arrow to make sure both ends spun true. I always check both ends before cutting.
@twostroker500 10 ай бұрын
The "Blitzenburger", AKA Bitzenburger fletching jig has always been made in Grand Ledge, Michigan, not Germany.
@alexgenereux4704 4 жыл бұрын
Love the content! Not saying you guys did anything wrong but I watched a video where someone was sorting out the vanes by weight because the tolerances weren't great i was surprised at how much variation there was in the pack of vanes. Just a thought to help dial them in even more. The differences get big when you are a 1/2 grain difference on each vane plug nock variance as well as arrow variance and broad heads all adds up in the end.
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
Good info, thanks for sharing!
@shaneberkness2743 4 жыл бұрын
That's why you go with VaneTec vanes.
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
@@shaneberkness2743 - Dan here - The max stealth all are same grains - a real solid batch but that's definitely a solid point on checking everything! Thank you!!
@marcgulko6893 4 жыл бұрын
Dan, if you want once you know the preferred bane setup, on the ez-fetch, u can get replacement arms. I went from the org right long arms to the right mini. They are a tight helical. Little tough to swap out, but not to bad. Check out the ranch fairy for heavy up front setups as well.
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
word up - thanks for the input!
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
Ya man I put the link to just the arms in the video description in case anyone wanted to swap them out and YES and pain in the ass to do so haha!
@marcgulko6893 4 жыл бұрын
You need a small punch/drift to push the pins out, then to put them back in. I think it took me an hour to swap them out. But, if you are going to run smaller vanes and don’t need to run long ones, and you are “cheap/tight wad”. It works pretty good. LOL
@jerrymclauchlin6471 Жыл бұрын
How do you clock an arrow? I know you are shooting a un-fletched arrow and have marked it with a silver sharpie but, once fired how do you distinguish the twist as left or right?
@davidpakulski4820 2 жыл бұрын
I use acetone then alcohol with cotton swabs instead of the primer pen.
@Lucas_Palmer_bownerd_engineer 4 жыл бұрын
I have been breaking my fmjs left and right lately I been shooting them for years and this is a new issue not sure if I got a bad batch or if quality has gone down? I am shooting 70lb vs 60lb maybe that's the issue? However, I am going to try the day six arrows with their stainless outsert with collars this summer ordering soon. With broadheads you cant kill what you cant hit so I go for the most accurate broadhead I can find. Slick tricks viper trick currently but looking at trying some others soon. Have never fletched but would like to get into it. Thanks for the video. Dan what happened to lefty your not a quitter!? Haha keep up the good work!
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro - never heard about that problem with FMJ's worth giving a call to Easton I'd bet..
@caninphx 4 жыл бұрын
Odd, i am having the same issue bought 3 dozen FMJ 6mms in the winter time to practice with and weed out the bad ones. I’m down to 18. Have had some explode hitting the target, bend really bad and I’ve lost one or two missing my block target at 140yds. Mostly though I am find they are hitting hard and bending out of true, then they are flying all over the place. I still have 18 good ones, but I get maybe a week out of an arrow shooting every day, then it is toast. Looking to go back to carbon, just not sure what I am going to get. It’s been an expensive year on arrows, I also bought some custom made ones from a local company, build utility is great as are the components, but I am having inserts blow out of the shafts left right and centre on 3D targets, which I am being told is that cause of failure on a hunting grade arrow, hmm. I call BS, as the inserts on some are just popping out of the arrows. Anyways different story. Anyone have a good carbon arrow recommendation for hunting?
@joemurray8902 3 жыл бұрын
Oh! It's a moustache! I thought it was some foam from a latte!
@ElkShape 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@joemurray8902 3 жыл бұрын
@@ElkShape Grow it out and put on some handle bars! That will seriously rock!
@5jjt 8 ай бұрын
What dictates which way your arrow will spin is determined by which way your bowstring is twisted. The arrow will spin opposite of how the string is twisted.
@dad3562 4 жыл бұрын
Please provide a link for the next video to see how it turned out ?
@natelothrop9383 4 жыл бұрын
What is the best way to actually test which fletching works best? And before you decide what vane/fletching to use should you test broad head flight?
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
that's going to be our follow up video
@juliomc66 11 ай бұрын
AAE Max Bond glue takes around 20-30 seconds to dry and the arrow can then be shot,it would drive me mad waiting a minute for each vane 🤪
@GBBLGBL 4 жыл бұрын
I recently bought this same Bohning jig too. I own the LCA jig, Bitz jig and the Aerovane jig too. But for the money this Bohning does VERY well especially keeping the lower and upper corners adhered to the shaft. I have used the 3 degree left, 1 degree left and the straight "clamp" in three and four fletch. They "say" it's and offset but if you look very close at the base of each clamp insert there is actually a twist that is on the very edges that contact the base of the vane hence allowing the vane to wrap the arrow more than just a plain offset. Even the really expensive jigs with strong magnets don't do as good of a job as this one does with keeping a strong hold on the vane while it's drying. The 3 degree left "offset" I did had more helical than my old Bitz jig with an actual helical clamp. I just don't think we would be able to get a full 3 degree offset to adhere "perfectly" to the shaft and have all four corners stuck without having some helical involved...especially with a small .166 shaft. Take a look at those clamp inserts and compare them to the straight one and you'll see what I mean. Great video btw!!
@GBBLGBL 4 жыл бұрын
Also, when changing the jig from back and forth between 3 and 4 fletch that single screw that holds the cap on does not need to be tight. If you back it off 1/4-1/2 turn the dial will turn more smoothly and you can distinguish between the clicks.
@TimConnor13 4 жыл бұрын
Steve Davis word up.. it is a great jig thanks for sharing
@desertrat2328 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see I’m not the only one pulling nocks with my teeth
@randyhutch50 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if I missed it but do you nock tune your bare shafts ? I have from 15 yards and they don't fly straight it seems without rotating the nock and reshooting them until they fly straight into the target not slightly off to one side or the other. I think it has something to do with aligning the spine to get the best flight.
@xjade11.11 Жыл бұрын
How do you feel about fletching tape for the vanes instead of glue?
@XBlueRaid3rX Жыл бұрын
Is Tim part of the PGA? I see some PGA plaques behind him and wondering if he plays golf as well. Fellow golf professional and hunter here from Dallas, TX 🤙🏻
@jackspurrier6911 4 жыл бұрын
How do you exactly clock your arrows? I have been trying to figure it out but would like a more in depth video or some step by steps. Keep up the good work guys.
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks cliff notes is mark arrows at nock with silver sharpie, shoot into target from 5-10 feet away.. See which way arrows are spinning, find the pattern
@Grayson150 Жыл бұрын
If you put a left offset will that help the arrows go right?
@zhickman338 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed the 4th vane on a Max Stealth gave me a right tear vs the 3 fletch. Also the 60x120 is for clearance when shooting off the shelf, I don't believe it applies to compounds.
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
These set of 60/120's apply to compounds lol... That's interesting on your tears... Thanks for sharing
@bjcoveney5306 4 жыл бұрын
What is the quietest in flight? Bet 4 flech,
@TimConnor13 4 жыл бұрын
BJ COVENEY we’ll put that in our notes for the test
@jasondlion 4 жыл бұрын
I'm having a hard time deciding on what fletcher to try any way you can go into a little more detail about them? Do you need to choose right vs left or can they do both/ certain degrees and such. Really looking into trying to do it myself this year but have that blue color budget so any buy 1 get best of both worlds would be awesome
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
we used the bohning multi-fletcher for most of this video.. Allows 3 and 4 vanes, with adjustable helical... The AZ multi-fletch is what Dan uses most the time fletch the vanes at once, but you don't get all the adjustability.
@jasondlion 4 жыл бұрын
@@ElkShape is it adjustable for left or right or do you have to buy the bohning only 1 set way?
@dsing21 4 жыл бұрын
Have you guys ever had any issues with left helical unscrewing your field tips or broadheads? I've heard this from multiple people, but I've never tested it myself. This is what drove me to use right helical rather the clocking. Also on a side note, I've found you don't necessarily need a primer pen for AAE vanes. I just use a qtip with some acetone and it works great. Also I'd like to say thanks for all that you guys do with the Elk Shape channel. I greatly appreciate it!
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
Good tips! A little piece of blue loctite tape is supposed to cure that unscrewing effect.. But yes we do notice from time to time.. mildy.. going to run that loctite on the hunting arrow setup - TC
@dsing21 4 жыл бұрын
@@ElkShape Awesome, I'm going to give that a try. Thanks!
@kavak1344 Жыл бұрын
I just put a little bow wax on my threads, and no issues with unscrewing
@BigRick2Trays 4 жыл бұрын
After fletching arrows with different configurations, do you paper tune for each fletching set up? I would like to try different fletching configurations to see what flies the best.
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
Good question.. paper tune should not change although it wouldn't hurt to check.. we are going to do a follow up video testing which setup flys the best..
@BigRick2Trays 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, can't wait.
@samventura5455 Жыл бұрын
Have you guys tried Aerovane 3s? If so what are your thoughts?
@joshuajackson8112 Жыл бұрын
Is it necessary to square off the nock end side of the arrow? With the g5 square tool?
@dbuckner902010 3 жыл бұрын
I have been wanting to play with different fletching from tac,aae, and bohning 3 or 4 fletch but my form isn’t consistent enough to show me real results
@ElkShape 3 жыл бұрын
that's ok you'll get there!
@xjade11.11 Жыл бұрын
Since I can not get a primer pen in my country, can I use rubbing alcohol or acetone?
@ElkShape Жыл бұрын
Yes - and you may not even need that depending on the arrow vane, setup you use. You can try to fletch on without and see how it holds up.
@shaneberkness2743 4 жыл бұрын
I like a low profile vane like a VaneTec Super Spine or V-Max in a 4 fletch with 2°-3° offset. I also do them in the 90° pattern, the 60° 120° doesn't make sense to me
@shaneberkness2743 4 жыл бұрын
With a low profile 4 fletch you get less wind drift with the same amount of stability or more compared to a blazer type vane or similar high profile vane in a three fletch. They work great especially for fixed broadheads
@Luciusaerografia Жыл бұрын
60X120 would be for traditional bows, recurves, longbows, etc.
@Ryan_Erkkila Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t help but notice the dudes grey and black flannel with the “UP” logo on it. Curious if he is from there originally and if so where about?
@chrisdurr1331 4 жыл бұрын
I use 4 fletch left with 2 degree offset with good luck
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
word!
@woodworm3615 3 жыл бұрын
...Any comments on the Last Chance Vane Master Pro Fletching gig?
@ElkShape 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think either of us have experience with that one - TC
@Eric-bh7jy 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the PGA certs in the background for? Are you a teaching pro?
@2amendment1960 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, 1. just wondering why you did not mark the spine of the arrow? Clocking the arrow,,,2. what makes the arrow spin left or right,, with out fletchings?
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
Tim here - good point.. that was my first time clocking arrows so I wouldn't know otherwise
@2amendment1960 4 жыл бұрын
@@ElkShape There are ways to locate the spine,1 is by by hanging a small weight on the shaft, suspended at each end, then run a micrometer on the center of arrow as it is rotated,, Josh Bowmar has 1 hell of an arrow building video, with this and several other processes in it.
@the_sharp_carpenter 3 жыл бұрын
@@2amendment1960 late reply but the spin off the string is due to the twist of the string and the serving.
@brandonwhitlock9665 4 жыл бұрын
You should have taken the time to spine index the shafts prior to fletching...you'll see the difference when shooting fixed heads at longer distances. Thanks for video!
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
Historically speaking - if issues arrive downrange when testing broadheads I have gotten away with twisting the nock 120 degrees when obvious... we'll look into doing a video specifically on this - obviously VAP marks their shafts for spine alignment, most others do not. -Dan
@brandonwhitlock9665 4 жыл бұрын
@@ElkShape I wasnt aware VAP marked thier spine for alignment... Btw, I really appreciate yall keeping the content coming during this quarantine period...gives me something to look forward to!
@alpinezach 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have to clock it without vanes ? Or can you clock a stock arrow at that 6ft mark?
@ElkShape 2 жыл бұрын
strip the vanes off!
@outdoorsdestination8880 Жыл бұрын
How do you decide on a fletching pattern.
@XtremeBUZZ 3 жыл бұрын
So with the clocking, if you arrow turns to the left, but the single bevel broadhead is a right turn, and you fletch to the right would that cause issues with tuning?
@Timberdam 2 жыл бұрын
Need to match your single bevel broadhead to your fletch..They come left and right..Most companies anyway..Otherwise your spinning left and cutting right
@ld19811977 3 жыл бұрын
I keep hearing Washington in some of these vids. Are both of you from Washington?
@garretcarden1 4 жыл бұрын
Is it a pain to remove the glue from the shaft when it comes time to refletch? I've always used wraps but am thinking about going straight to the carbon
@donatedgnome4552 4 жыл бұрын
Garret Carden I feel it’s easier to get glue off the shaft then taking off wraps.
@garretcarden1 4 жыл бұрын
Do you just scrape it off?
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
it isn't a pain at all!
@jhance2141 3 жыл бұрын
What’s the point of clocking I’ve had guys in pro shops tell me that if you spin your arrows left you run the risk of unscrewing your broadheads, any thoughts on that?
@ElkShape 3 жыл бұрын
arrows seem to shoot the truest when they are clocked, and yes broadheads can unscrew a hair, but it's never been an issue. A little piece of blue loctite works too if you're concerned - TC
@thefortnitegamer442 4 жыл бұрын
When fletching left helical or offset does it unscrew your FP or BH ???
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
I have noticed broadheads loosening occasionally.. but barely.. as I shoot more with them I can speak more on that subject.. - TC
@thefortnitegamer442 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks just checked my arrow and sure enough spins left and been fletching right helical but was just curious on the unscrewing part thanks alot and let us know maybe a vid on it if u see a diff or just bring up in a vid thanks 👍🏼🤙🏼
@tat2dlukydevl 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know where to get that bad ass squaring tool?
@_elijah_anderson 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know how far to rotate it for the next fletching? I might have missed that in the video
@brandenswartz5591 2 жыл бұрын
You'll hear a positive click when you rotate the nock receiver letting you know it's set in the correct position for the next vane
@garrettstraffon608 2 жыл бұрын
Watched this whole thing hoping to see which one flys the best 🙄
@daviddellariva 3 жыл бұрын
What model Arizona EZ flech is that????
@peterweikel7123 Жыл бұрын
50 bucks for 3 is less then half of what I currently spend
@odinsarrow1343 4 жыл бұрын
It's a pain, but totally doable to put helical on 4 fletch. With your rig im sure it'd be easy enough though
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
yeah if I was going helical I'd stick to three vanes.. serves the purpose of adding that drag/stability - TC
@odinsarrow1343 4 жыл бұрын
Hey guys I love that you're replying to comments, keep that up. I am trying to get a similar bow-hunting start up going at the moment. I have tons of ideas and was thinking a channel like yours would be a great one to link with. We're on similar skill & mentality levels. Coming from Santa Cruz, CA where no one had any info or idea how to get started. Let's link! #there'samarket 👌
@denhamfamilyadventures4150 4 жыл бұрын
what about impact collars?
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
not on this build.. would need to learn more about them.. but I don't need to do anything to add weight to my setup, it's already heavy AF.. - TC
@jerrythompson9111 4 жыл бұрын
Don't leave out 2 fletch.
@tonyallen8626 4 жыл бұрын
I thought that you needed to square of both sides of the arrows
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
it certainly does not hurt
@loganlease1 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure 4 fletch are better for fixed not expandables
@timothylove8839 3 жыл бұрын
Is the Arizona Fletching Jig a Minimax Right? Or is it the Pro Right?
@ElkShape 3 жыл бұрын
Full size AZ EZ fletch
@timothylove8839 3 жыл бұрын
Elk Shape thank you for the reply! That true helical is what I would like to get!
@woodworm3615 3 жыл бұрын
what do you think of the
@haydenabell940 3 жыл бұрын
How long do I soke the clams in asatone because I’ve done over 100 arrows for my bow shop in the last three days and I have the same bonghing Fletching jig Thanks dan
@dylanrodriguez2520 3 жыл бұрын
I hear this all the time to. That if ur using the AAR vain’s then u absolutely need the primer pen and their glue. If u just use a little bit of sand paper on the bottom of the vain’s then they most definitely will stay on there. 100%. And, u don’t even need to use the primer pen either. So u save money on no primer pen and only five bucks for glue instead of the $15 for the AAE, shit.
@Glock-1 3 жыл бұрын
Go with a goatee
@robertmullally8781 4 жыл бұрын
apoxy, hotmelt or superglue ??? I know GT recommends their superglue.
@ElkShape 4 жыл бұрын
We were using GT super glue.. But believe most super glues work - tC
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