weird spider-man musicals

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in which Max dives deep into the niche musical history of everyone’s favorite web-head.
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Music by me or my Casio CTK-496 except “We Will All Go Together When We Go” written and performed by Tom Lehrer.
Chapters:
0:00 the obsession
1:08 Spider-Man Rocks!
16:12 Spider-Man: Turn off the Dark
27:47 Spider-Man: Rock Reflections of a Superhero
42:30 an announcement!
Fun and Helpful Sources
ABC News: abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/...
Broadwaycom (a compilation of reviews which I find delightful): www.broadwayworld.com/reviews...
Discogs: www.discogs.com/release/34841...
New York Post: nypost.com/2010/05/30/broadwa...
nypost.com/2021/06/16/broadwa...
New York Times: www.nytimes.com/2010/12/04/th...
NPR: www.npr.org/2014/01/01/258889...
Playbill: playbill.com/article/spider-m...
playbill.com/article/injury-a...
Observer: observer.com/2013/08/can-some...
OSHA’s website: www.osha.gov/news/newsrelease...
thestudiotour: www.thestudiotour.com/wp/studi...
Variety: variety.com/2014/legit/featur...
Washington Post: www.washingtonpost.com/lifest...
Also Mike Ragogna’s liner notes for the 25th Anniversary Edition of Rock Reflection was SUPER fun, and a source for this video. Highly recommend that you purchase the CD!
Other footage used:
Spider-Man cartoon footage courtesy of the esteemed ToiletWater: • Spider-Man 5000 (1981 ...
The Beatles: • The Beatles - Hello, G...
crappco: • Beetlejuice's Rockin' ...
GuilbeauxFan: • Spider Man: Turn Off t...
ParkHopper: • Journey into the Jungl...
Spider-Man Turn off the Dark: • Behind the Scenes with...
Turn off the Dark Archives: • Spider-Man: Turn Off T...
U2: • U2 - I Still Haven't F... • U2 - With Or Without Y...
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@MusicallyMeen 7 ай бұрын

I like to imagine that when Reeve Carney and Patrick Page (who played Green Goblin in TOTD) met during Hadestown it was like a mini-reunion. Like: “Hey…remember the OSHA violations?”

@donultrawide 7 ай бұрын

Don’t forget that T.V. Carpio (Arachne) played Eurydice alongside them in the Edmonton production

@MusicallyMeen 7 ай бұрын

@@donultrawide Oh my gods I didn’t know that. Coincidence? I think NOT.

@erikdaniels0n 7 ай бұрын

During Reeve’s last show as Orpheus, the entire original cast came back to see him off and gave speeches and Patrick Page revealed that he was actually the one who convinces Reeve to come to Canada to play Orpheus in the initial run

@lilytaylor4760 7 ай бұрын

It’s kind of hilarious to me that Reeve didn’t get hurt during Spiderman but he did get smacked with a lamp during Hadestown

@carolkoski4875 3 ай бұрын

@@donultrawide rachel chavkin really took everyone from turn off the dark and put them in hadestown, it's hilarious

@honey.blossom456 4 ай бұрын

The fact that Spider-Man turn off the dark is THE MOST expensive broadway musical to date is literally wild lmao

@ripphunter8872 7 ай бұрын

DID PETER SNAP THAT DUDES NECK???

@baylorwuzhere 4 ай бұрын

YES! I WAS SO FLABBERGASTED!!!

@gggthsb 4 ай бұрын

straight up killed the guy 😅

@gaygrim 2 ай бұрын

RIGHT WTF?!

@sydneykingmusic 7 ай бұрын

Watching Howard Stern be so unflinchingly wrong about the meaning of My Hero in front of Dave Grohl-without even a self-conscious bone in his body-makes me feel like I should be a little kinder to myself when I make mistakes

@user-zo6jh6rl9z 8 күн бұрын

For real, I can’t imagine making a song for a musical, about how anyone can be a hero even if they don’t seem like one, then a guy asks if the songs about your late best friend

@satinahall 7 ай бұрын

I'm surprised that the Spiderverse movies have yet to acknowledge any of the musicals

@ninereeds1810 3 ай бұрын

Actually, Swiss Miss (a character from 'Turn Off the Dark') has a background cameo in 'Across the Spiderverse'! You can see her silhouette in the super-villian prison.

@ohmygodtheykilledkenny4887 2 ай бұрын

@@ninereeds1810I love that! Wish they'd have Arachne from the original version of Turn Of The Dark in the background

@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145 2 ай бұрын

@ohmygodtheykilledkenny4887 and let her speak at least one little line please!

@kabobawsome 7 ай бұрын

the worst part about doing an origin story is that they always change the radioactive spider into something more """reasonable""" WRITERS. KEEP THE GODDAMN RADIOACTIVE SPIDER RADIOACTIVE.

@clairegb9837 4 ай бұрын

Ok but MJs vocals in Lady Marmalade ate. No idea why she’s singing that, but a slay nonetheless

@lindseyb2777 7 ай бұрын

The thing that interests me about Rock Reflections is that it’s a period piece. It’s clearly set in the ‘60s like the early comics. The music is ‘60s, the language and slang is ‘60s, it’s just up to its eyeballs in the vibes. I think it could become quite a quaint little production for black box theaters; no fancy webswinging sequences, just a weird nerd from the 1960s crushing on a girl and moving on from the girl dying. While juggling being a superhero.

@dragonetafireball 7 ай бұрын

13:06 “no goblin, you die” is so funny compared to Sam Raimi Spider-Man who does everything in his power to not kill goblin

@princessjazmin6499 7 ай бұрын

4:38 Jesus I was not prepared for the the actor to be so ripped what-

@cassidyr2287 7 ай бұрын

MAX POSTED MAX POSTED THIS IS NOT A DRILL

@ripphunter8872 7 ай бұрын

🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨

@brentparker7359 7 ай бұрын

The concept of "No More" must be catnip to lyricists. Besides "Spider-Man: Turn Off The Dark" and "Into the Woods," "No More" is also a song title in "See What I Wanna See," "tick...tick...BOOM!" and "The Goodbye Girl."

@sonofaspyder3000 7 ай бұрын

“Spider-Man’s 3 musical endeavors” *SPIDER BELLS SPIDER BELLS SWINGING THROUGH MIDTOWN*

@darcim8737 7 ай бұрын

okay I'm only at the start but you point out that spiderman rocks is using holding out for a hero is SO funny to me because that songs composser - the legend that is Jim Steinman - was at the time working on a batman musical inspired by the Burton films. sadly it never got out of development hell, but the demo tracks are so good would recommend giving them a listen

@FortKnoxMovies 7 ай бұрын

For the longest time I’ve had the vaguest memory of being a little kid and watching some random live spirderman show. I have this strange memory of my family and me talking to the Spider-Man actor after the show the because we were the only ones in the audience. For the longest time I thought maybe I made it up or it was a weird dream or something, but after watching this it hit me! It was Spider-Man Rocks!

@beepatpen 3 ай бұрын

I bet you made that guy's day lmao

@wormskink 7 ай бұрын

as soon as u finished explaining the video conept i had to rush to the timestamps to make sure the third musical would be rock reflections. i found it ages ago in the depths of fixation and was very obsessed with it. cant wait to hear commentary about that weird little concept album LMAOO

@elise2920 7 ай бұрын

Gwendolyn was IMMEDIATELY added to the playlist

@linksavetheday 7 ай бұрын

there was another spider-man musical in 1999 at the British theme park Butlins, it was called spider-man on stage, no video footage of it exists but the cast recording did come out on CD

@TheLyricsAnalyst 9 күн бұрын

Not Butlins.. that place is so bloody nostalgic ☠️

@thatsMasonDrake 7 ай бұрын

A musical that you might enjoy looking into is Birds & Bats! It's a smaller batman + batfamily musical. It's genuinely so good 😭

@pqcowboychanel 7 ай бұрын

Or Holy musical b@ man

@nightinggalejesusimsogay 2 ай бұрын

Watched it the other day it was amazing

@vernalloy4640 6 ай бұрын

There's another Spider-Man musical! The Spidey Project was a fanmade musical released in 2012 in reaction to Turn Off The Dark, with a self-described focus on "clear, simple story telling and character driven theater." It... is honestly not very good, but definitely captures some of the tonal whiplash and odd phrasing in old comics, to the point where the finale culminates in the refrain of, "I want Spider-Man inside of me!" Deeply ridiculous show and definitely aware of it. A stage recording is available on this very site! I consider it lacking a little in... heart? Nothing in the show will make you cry but there is this FUCKING KILLER INSTRUMENTAL NUMBER CALLED CHAMELEON

@vernalloy4640 6 ай бұрын

ALSO PLEASE GOD RAGGEDY ANN MUSICAL!!!!! my beloved mutuals did so much work to unearth it

@Sebastientalkstoomuch 7 ай бұрын

You should definitely look into It’s a Bird, It’s a Plane, It’s Superman the musical based on the Superman comics it premiered in the 60s had a cringy 70s tv movie and a off off broadway revival in 2006

@averyeml 7 ай бұрын

Credit where it’s due, those pyro effects in Spider-Man were spot on perfectly timed to Another One Bites the Dust. It’s just about the only praise I’ve got for it other than “the actors sure are giving their all,” but still

@beepatpen 3 ай бұрын

honestly can we just get a pyrotechnics show to queen songs, I think that would make good money Lmao

@bbbeansss4757 7 ай бұрын

I was lucky (or unlucky) enough to see Turn off the Dark twice as a kid and I loved it so much. Reeve Carney was my first celebrity crush because of his performance. I've come to realize how bad the show was but I still think Boy Falls From the Sky absolutely slaps and would be so good in a musical that had a better plot. ALSO THEY STRAIGHT UP ADDED A NEW MEMBER TO THE SINISTER SIX AND NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THAT

@jerryorg1 7 ай бұрын

You should do a video on Pokemon Live! Ash's mom is played by Dee Roscioli (who played Elphaba on Broadway!), James was played by Andrew Rannells (Elder Price), and the story was so strange it invented an entire ship in the Pokemon fandom (DiamondShipping, Delia x Giovanni). Love the vid! ❤

@amandamoore7512 7 ай бұрын

6:02 yes you’re 100% right baby they’re literally pulling a Nemo Musical of the Raimi movie and THATS why this scene is a thing In that Spiderman movie MJ is attacked in an alley by rapey guys, saved by Spidey and THAT is where they put the upside down kiss scene in the movie🫠

@TheManUpstairsHere 7 ай бұрын

I could watch a nine hour video from max and still be interested even with my minuscule attention span.

@qwellen7521 7 ай бұрын

6:30-6:41 Wait… did Spiderman just kill that guy? I mean he was an attempted rapist but that’s still a wildly out of character moment.

@rileyp2775 7 ай бұрын

PIDERMAN DOES ROCKS

@amandamoore7512 7 ай бұрын

6:55 THAT SONG WAS LITERALLY ON THE 2002 RAIMI SPIDERMAN SOUNDTRACK I ACTIVELY REMEMBER THAT SONG AND THAT MOVIE BEING TIED TOGETHER HOLY SHIT THATS ALL THIS IS

@hiimaytuser5832 7 ай бұрын

10:46 isnt MJ like a high schooler? isn't the green goblin like 30 years older than her at least? who's idea was this? I think my main example of this would be that in the Sam Raimi trilogy she dated Harry Osborn the green goblin's son, so having in mind that at least in the Sam Raimi trilogy she was he's daughter-in-law, Wich I know that is exclusive to the Sam Raimi trilogy but regardless of adaptation she is still a minor (Edited because I focused on comparing the musical and the Sam Raimi' movies because I thought the musical was inspired on them, if there are incorrect things let me know)

@sirgentlebread7302 6 ай бұрын

We never see MJ in the comics until Peter's in college already, so she's an adult comic wise.

@steviguzman7575 7 ай бұрын

Excited for more musical content but I'd watch you read a shopping list. Love your vids Max

@Pixie_Shmixie 7 ай бұрын

I read a book about the production of Turn Off The Dark once and it was…certainly something.

@elizabethwood2063 7 ай бұрын

It's so good, and it leaves no doubt that U2 thought they could coast through the songwriting part of creating a musical. I'm sure those guys are in the top 0.01% of living humans in terms of being able to sit down for one day and produce something that can get radio play, but songs in musical theater have to do a lot more than be listenable. Anyway, I think about that book at my work a lot, every time I tell people "before something can be brilliant, it must first be competent.

@DimeUhDozen 7 ай бұрын

24:00 would work like ten times better if it was the guitar lick from the 90’s animated series.

@ceridvven 7 ай бұрын

i clicked on this video without knowing my headphone volume was all the way up and got absolutely blasted by sound. my ears are ringing but it was worth it for a new max video

@LyricNear 7 ай бұрын

part 3 of politely spamming you to cover the raggedy ann musical

@ErisIsAnAbomination 7 ай бұрын

Bonus points if he also covers the film version, it’s absolutely nightmarish in the best way possible.

@LyricNear 7 ай бұрын

@@ErisIsAnAbomination oh the movie has nothing on the stage musical. some creepy visuals sure but a lot less death. they aren't really "versions" they're completely different stories

@mabbimoo 7 ай бұрын

YESSSSS I watched Spider-Man rocks with a few friends after you mentioned it in a video, so happy you made a full video!

@spiltbongwater7591 4 ай бұрын

the doowop song sold me. i need to see this musical

@youraveragetheatrenerd2330 7 ай бұрын

Btw I would trust you wholeheartedly with the stage production of Spider Man: Rock Reflections of a super hero

@michel0dy 4 ай бұрын

I'm coming out of this as a fan of Rock Reflections of a Superhero, I need a proper musical on this

@luckywons 7 ай бұрын

ive seen the spiderman rocks one in person as a kid and was blown away bc they kept singing i need a hero, but I AM AMPED FOR THIE VIDEO

@bivianalynch1234 4 ай бұрын

If I had a nickel for everytime a universal theme park musical used “lady marmalade” I would have 2 nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice

@runningbaconman9598 7 ай бұрын

If you are looking for a proper musical rendition of another one bites the dust, check out “we will rock you” the musical (specifically try to get the North American rendition of it) amazing cast and production all around. Would really appreciate it if you could check it out!!! Love the content ❤❤❤

@Wiilovefandoms 7 ай бұрын

These make my whole month everytime he posts. Could anything be better!

@paigemorabito4770 7 ай бұрын

The dr. Octopus outro could easily trick someone to think its hello goodbye

@user-nd4fb9rx1u 4 ай бұрын

My hole life is siting on the floor with a headache and reflecting on life.

@ninereeds1810 3 ай бұрын

'A Freak Like Me' is an absolute banger and I will hear nothing bad about it.

@societycrumbles 7 ай бұрын

I can't help but to think about Titus' song about too many Spider-Men from Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, lol

@haydenoneverything2002 2 ай бұрын

I actually wrote a script for Rock Reflections of A Super Hero and it runs to about 50 minutes long. I'm going to try and produce it as a small workshop in my area!

@alexthestinker 7 ай бұрын

Its funny you talk about the nemo musical. The childrens theater I work at is doing Nemo next season and we are fightinng to not have weird puppets

@5nightsatgengars830 13 күн бұрын

This reminds me of spooder-man,also I love the way he just snapped that man’s neck😂

@scrambldrabbit 3 ай бұрын

i just discovered ur channel, youre so underrated! i hope the algorithm picks up your content because i think there’s a big audience waiting for you

@KieraWaffles 3 ай бұрын

that rock reflections album was incredible, i hope it does get made into a stage show

@daniellebalouise9596 7 ай бұрын

I always get so excited for your videos. You're one of my deepest comfort watches. It just feels like home.

@Karen_esque 7 ай бұрын

If I can recall (I worked at TOTD), Bono and The Edge weren't around for previews, they wrote the music and peaced out, so Reeve's band had a big hand in the music since they were musicians for the show.

@thenumberoneprincessesinth4950 3 ай бұрын

Spider-Man turn off the dark is my roman empire and now I have to look into the other two

@Ty-xb7dj 3 ай бұрын

I was literally thinking “what if Maxwell did a spider-man musical video” so I looked at your channel and it was the first video I saw

@shaefurlong1907 7 ай бұрын

6:38 I'm sorry, did spider man just break that guys neck?

@Ash-zj4vn Ай бұрын

Amazing video! There was also a UK musical called Spider-Man on Stage, which even had a cast album that I own for some reason lol

@ApolloAzraelSpektra 7 ай бұрын

Wow, they'll really let anyone sing on stage if you ask.

@bestiecon 7 ай бұрын

if you’re looking for bad musicals… bare: a pop opera is a great example. the bits that are good are so so good but the bits that miss… oh boy

@MentalIgglybuff 7 ай бұрын

These videos fill a weird whole in my heart, thank you

@Imthatguykayden 7 ай бұрын

Ok next do diary of a wimpy kid the musical (yes that’s a real thing)

@Oh_Welp2011 Ай бұрын

In Spiderman rocks It sounds like let’s get ready 2 rumble on Dreamcast

@Athairne 3 ай бұрын

I'm legitimately grateful you introduced me to that last work and I'm honest to god going to look it up and give it a serious listen. Maybe it's because this was my dad's era so I'm predisposed to feel positively to that kind of rock lol.

@_benn 7 ай бұрын

i love ur content i rlly hope u get more popular

@SassyTart42 7 ай бұрын

I love this video so much. New comfort vid.

@waterwitch1690 4 ай бұрын

Bro do it, get ahead of the game, start choreographing it now, recruite some theatre nerd friends, make a stage version of it for fun and upload it to KZfaq like the good’ol days. It doesn’t need to look professional, that’s what makes it so fun to do! Everyone one is scared on monetization, but what ever happened to making things because your passionate about it and not for an income.

@cartoongraveyard4643 6 ай бұрын

Seeing you cover a concept album was really cool - I feel like it'd be neat to see your thoughts on the album Go To School by The Lemon Twigs!! It's got a wild concept (woman who gave up on her rockstar dreams raises a chimp to believe he's a human) but it gets devastatingly emotional at times. Even if you don't review it, HIGHLY recommend checking it out anyway :D

@ArturGlass.C 2 ай бұрын

That Gwendolyn Doo-Woop song is so fucking good tho.

@deynat7481 7 ай бұрын

This came at the perfect time because I was just thinking about a friend who saw Spider-Man: Turn Off The Dark when we were kids!! Still don't know if he was being honest about it

@realjpegmafia 7 ай бұрын

I thought I was one of the few people that knew of rock reflections of a superhero great video ! I didn’t know about Spider-Man rocks

@FrecklesHasAQuestionMark 7 ай бұрын

SpongeBob musical brought up in the context of bands writing musicals, please be TMBG mentioned [jackpot sound effect]

@Rainbowfox_ 22 күн бұрын

This video made me such a big fan of Rock Reflections and I am forever grateful !!!!

@Measuresderepo 7 ай бұрын

Guess we’re listening to some rock reflections

@theoracle0914 7 ай бұрын

As a TOTD fan, I agree with a lot of Max’s points but I really want to know what his thoughts of Sinistereo (the song that plays during the Sinister Six taking over the world)? It is one of my favorite songs from the album and that version is different than from the Second Version of the musical

@clemclemclemclemcl 7 ай бұрын

MAX UPLOAD TIS IS TIME FOR CELEBRATION!!!

@drew-id 6 ай бұрын

You hit the nail on the head. Universal undoubtedly had a list of songs they already had the rights to...

@old_memoriaa 4 ай бұрын

NO WAY THEY SANG A FOO FIGHTERS SONG FOR SPIDER-MAN ROCKS??? that would go so hard if it was done a little better 💀

@ElsaLouiseSinger 7 ай бұрын

I wanna see this guy review MWCA: Musical Without a Cool Acronym lol :)

@cr4zysh4dez 7 ай бұрын

Spiderman rocks is giving me a brain freeze

@NemeyukoP 7 ай бұрын

Fun fact, I think the bootleg for turn off the dark you used had the actor Robert Cuccioli as Norman Osborn/Green Goblin. He the original actor to play Jekyll & Hyde on broadway and the 1995 pre broadway tour. Not first to play the character but still. Do with that what you will.

@MxShadow8 7 ай бұрын

There can’t be more then 2 spider man musicals? Right?

@davidleavitt835 7 ай бұрын

I was blessed to see Turn Off The Dark twice and the more you see this as a Universal theme park/ arena touring show, on a large scale, it works. It is good fun, once one divorces it from what the traditional musical structure is. This is NOT, nor do I think ever was, meant to be a "Broadway musical" I believe someone got cocky and said let's go Broadway. Yes, as a traditional Broadway musical it sucked big time; no arguments on that point. The songs, albeit not horrible by pop/U2 standards, do feel almost out of place but, for an arena show, again, not that bad. Rock Reflections had me rolling from laughter; so bad. 😂😂😂

@Just.Kidding 24 күн бұрын

If Rock Reflections wanted to be authentic, they'd have Steve Ditko narrate and Stan Lee would take all the credit.

@heathercalun4919 4 ай бұрын

The Universal Studios show is probably the best one _as a show._ Personally I like "Turn Off the Dark" just because of how many risks it took. I'll agree "Reflections in Rock" has better music and "sounds more like what I'd expect a Spider Man musical to sound like" if that makes sense... but for how weird and obscure this gem was I really wish it had given more insight into Peter's psyche like the intro promised.

@FnafTTTEKid Ай бұрын

“Mama! I wanna watch spider man across the multiverse!” “No little Maxy, we got spider man at Home” spider man at home:

@SpideyMinion5432 2 ай бұрын

Spider-Man in Spider--Man Rocks Suit is based off of the Sam Rami Spider-Man

@oliviasjkskdkd7584 Ай бұрын

I’d say the biggest Broadway flop would be Oliver putnam’s Splash!

@manta-rayz 14 күн бұрын

35:40 i've listened to stan lee pronounce murdered about 8 times now

@celo7carvalho 7 ай бұрын

YOU DID NOT JUST SKIP THE FACT THAT THE FIRST THING PIDEY DOES IS SNAP THE GUYS NECK

@chloejarvis721 4 ай бұрын

I have no clue what Tarzan musical & mishaps you're talking about good sir, please do a video on it

@lemonade8660 4 ай бұрын

my favorite spiderman musical is holy musical b@man

@montanajackson3713 6 ай бұрын

Do the Death Note musical or Back to the Future musical next!

@heipadei1221 7 ай бұрын

I LOVE U SO MUCH

@abcdedavidson2227 4 ай бұрын

If you want more bad obscure musicals, you could consider looking into cruise ship original musicals. Worst show I ever saw was on a royal carribbean ship: Columbus the Musical-the (fictional) story of Christopher Columbus’ brother Marvin who has been lost to history… The couple sitting behind me seemed to find it hysterical though.