I know it was a joke but the irony of skaters actually saying "this is private park" is too funny.

That bmx dude definitely coming back to get his clip he don't care about your private property 🤣🤣

Man Zach’s style is just so smooth and solid! Love watching him skate! I personally can’t skate a mellow board though. I feel like there’s less board feel for me with a mellow board like I’m just standing on a 2x6 or something.

A steeper tail does not actually 'pop higher', instead it allows for more time (before) for you to jump up in order to allow the board to go up more. There's also more travel before the tail or nose hits the ground, which mostly influences timing and not so much pop height. In terms of rigidness and such, a whole bunch more comes down to the weight of the entire setup actually. It's fairly hard to distinguish the true difference in pop when it comes to fresh decks in most cases. (Especially because different decks will require you to get used to the different timings involved! Some people hate steep decks because of the change in timing and possibility for ghost pop etc.). It only becomes different when different materials were used, like for example the Powell Peralta Flight decks (pop on those is truly insane, and they're actually fairly mellow decks). Also, bigger wheels matter more for most setups for sure due to the range of steepness where nothing is too crazy.

Love the subtle lofi music during the shesh you guys rip!! Keep shredding!

zac and irv lookin like twins with the matching fit

physics between both really interests me. Its fascinating. The fact that steep board is "easier" to pop and flip is a fact, tho that doesnt scratch off the mellow board. Both of em good as hell. I suppose its all about taste, but I'd research these cases in some physical simulation...

love this type of videos keep it like this

I'm liking the instrumental music in the background

I snapped my deck yesterday and i set up my first FA board today and im having trouble getting used to it, but i think it has more to do with the fresh mob griptape vs the clear grip i had on the last board. Between the steepness and the extra grip its just clinging too much. I can definitely nollie a lot higher and i like how it stick too my feet for like 180s and stuff but having trouble flipping it the way i wanna

In the late 90s, dwindle boards came In steep concaves, it was called monster mold concave and most of them were 7.75, that size mixed with a steep concave was incredible so my point is, I think steep concaves on small boards is a perfect combo, the wider they get the harder it is to control. I feel a wide board with a steep concave should be paired with super low trucks and 50mm wheels. Just my opinion

you guys should do an Indy's vs Thunders next seeing most of you guys ride indy's there

I see Zach is a man of culture based off his grip

Grew up with the PP Welinder Nordic Skull. Awesome board! 30 years later I’m getting on a board again and was gonna go for my original deck. Saw the Old School Ripper in deep concave and was kinda persuaded toward the deep concave. Went for a it and it is very comfortable for me personally. Gripping snd maneuvering is very good compared to a flatter deck. For me anyhow. Happy with my purchase.

I love y’all for real ❤️

I like the steep concave like FA as i noticed my feet grips better when sliding/flicking, tho i have to ride low trucks to combat the steep angle of the nose/tail

Zach's moustache on point!

Currently riding a 8.25 Steep Deathwish and it was my first steep board. It didn’t skate too differently. It felt a little more comfortable than a mellow board with how it catches my foot when I ollie or when I am trying weird transition tricks. But I feel like my mellow board Im getting is gonna be easier to skate on cause its just gonna feel the same as when I started skating.

Here we go boyyyyys

gracias por este tipo de videos. muy educativos

Liking the more mellow boards these days. Never paid attention in my young years but find the mellow to be more comfortable under my feet for sure.

I like seeing Foster skate more in these vids too 👌

lol at that dude on the bike. also, great skating! great video!

Great video. Keep it up.

the casual 'ye dude it sucks u right off' was funny as fuuuuck

Zac &Irv are so cute when their outfits match

dunno, having skated both throught the years n through the late 90’s ...having a zooYork Robbie Gangemi (sp) w a practically vertical nose and then a Real FireHydrant which was super mellow. I like steeper boards for transition and mellow boards for street. seems mellow boards let the trick float more and aren’t as snappy or grippy flicky off the foot.

I gotta say, I just got a deck with a SUPER steep concave & kick, and I can barely skate the darn thing compared to what I'm used to. Definitely takes some getting used to...

all different styles so rad

I skate mellow boards and I like a short wheelbase. "Stubby" works well for me. Generally, I like a 14" WB but will skate up to a 14.25" and no longer than 31.8.

Zach has perfect style wish I could ride like that always I looked up to skaters like that when I was a little kid

I like a mellow board with risers😊, and extra loose trucks with hard bushings. Shout out independent and the 8.5 too

i have two setups a mellow and a steep and i prefer the steep. just personal preference but i like how it feels to skate more. not necessarily more comfortable but more controllable. people say mellow better for flip tricks but i don't find that to be true for myself. feels like the concave allows you to flick easier, because the edge of the board is angled up you don't have to roll your foot onto its side so much and can get more leverage

I am a mellow concave myself, but its just what I'm used to, I feel boards have gotten more concaved over the years, I actually used to skate a concave when I was younger, and it was like pretty much the equavlent of mellow these days, I just come from the late 90s early 2000s board were flatter lol, but now a days I ride a mellow concave either 8.25, or 8.38

Im watching your videos for quite a time... As many other channels. I wanted to let you know that your intro theme is so damn motivating and makes me feel good 😁👍 Ps: was it your intention that only your channel has these intense (in a good way) "pop sounds" when hitting for a Trick?

Do a video on deck board sizes without telling them which size is which to see which one the majority of them feel more comfortable on

Are most of all the boards mellow concave

Here’s a question… regarding kick/heel flips, or any other flip trick, someone who rides a steep concave and loose trucks… The extra power they get in their flips due to that more dramatic flick-angle creating more leverage to spin the board faster/harder,… Is such power lost/negated by the fact that when flicking a deck with loose trucks, that, similar to a flat/less Ridgid deck compared to a steeper/more Ridgid deck, some of that energy put into making the board flip is lost when being transferred from the foots’ “flick” to actual causation of spin, as the deck would need to compress/rock all the way it can until it’s level of resistance to said compression, ever increasing, is greater than gravities resistance to the board going against it. Tighter trucks would transfer energy through all that space/all those components to where it needs to go faster and more efficiently. Wouldn’t it?

Trucks play a big role when having a steep or mellow board. In general, Indys work better with mellow boards, while thunders work usually better with steep boards, due to the height and wheelbase difference.

The h8ful is a fire ass movie.. can't unsee it.

I prefer a mellow flatter board. My friend gave me his old steep back in HS and I rode it for a year or two. Wasn’t bad but definitely not as comfortable

The point the older gent starting at 2:31 is very true. I've heard about that. Steeper nose and tail will require more effort but you get more reward for that effort to make it pop. For me I like the more steeper concave because I really like the feeling of the board on my feet. I think Girl decks are the best balance for me.

"Ervin pro model" 🤣 I miss these guys

Is there an inbetween so I get better pop but also better flicks n stuff

Does anyone know if Hockey/FA decks have steep kicks (no not the concave, the kicks)?

My skateboard has flat deck like straight flat...just like skateboard without decks So is it possible to ollie on it?

I had a mellow Baker board but it lost its pop quicker than any other board I've had.

Love high concaves 8" / 8.125 is great for me (street, stairs, ledges...). The steep nose (or tail) is not my preference, but if I suffer to Ollie high enough on something it comes in handy. Medium decks are fine, I suck at riding mellow decks😂

Ive never ridden a board with steep concave but one online source suggests that they can make your feet tired after a long riding session. Has anyone found that to be true?

ayooooo i'm in South Carolina visiting family. got any good park recommendations???

Great video! I think I prefer mellow but I could skate either, not shredding anything too gnarly

Does anyone know wat deck has the most mellow nose and kicker . Name 2 please ❤🙏🏾👊🏾🌱

Does anyone know what the name of the intro song is?

Those blank decks are dope lol

At my age now i prefer mellow decks..way back in d 90s i dont mind a steep deck..great skating, very inspiring. How old is that guy? Still doin alright

smooth outro... i like em mellow

Like Irving was saying, I like the comfortable feeling of my feet flat down on the board when I do like kickflips or heelflips, but not gonna lie, full concave kinda improve my tre flips, its just because when you scoop a super concaved board, the board leverage going towards you is like a faster react time, so my flip on a tre flip full concave board is a faster more fluent flip, but Im used to tre flipping mellow ones, so I get primod on full concaved boards a lot lol, and just the landing primo, mello, vs steep, like steep hurts your feet way more, mellow is not as bad, I swear everytime I have skated full concave I roll my ankle, only been 3 times for experiment purposes, but went straight back to mellow lol

This has got me curious about foot shape vs concave. For example will a person with flat feet feel more comfortable on a flatter concave? it might not make any difference, at the same time it could be game changing advice for beginners.

I have flat feet. I have to ride mellow. What kinda bike was that? I f's with the fixed gears.

Mellow boards are the way to go for me, cannot stand steep kicks and concave. I’m that picky with my board I often constantly shop for a spare board whilst skating a fresh setup because they are hard to come by a solid flat deck I find. More times than I can count I’ve spent £70 on a deck and it’s either on a pile with the rest of them after an hours skate on it, or I’ve given it to someone else to skate. I’m one of the very particular people, I’m the same with trucks and wheels, have to be either low Indy hollow lights with 52mm wheels or tensor lows with the hollow kingpin. I actually had a pair of thunder lows that were really good but got ‘stolen’ when I left them in the boot of my mates car. Great video though and solid skating all round!

deoes anybody know any brands with very steep kick decks

I like the editing with music

liked the video guys! thanks for the info

I did not expect to see one of the cleanest tres of all time in this video xD 3:09

I like mellow when it comes to popsicle boards. For more shaped decks I can go both ways

I like both. 🤘👽🤙

It's got HELL CON CAVE!

I definitely like a flatter board like the Powell Flight 243 or the Real Ishod Twin Tail.

Man that park is perfect, we just don't have shit like that where I live.

What’s the guy in green shirts @ he’s really good

mellow forsure

With the right haircut that dude in green would look just like a young Tony Hawk

why arent symmetrical boards more popular. i loved the ones i had in the 90s early 2000s they became hard to find now i cant find them at all

amazing skaters

I skate a mellow deck with big wheels so it’s like right in the middle from steep and mellow

anyone got experience with mid to low trucks, small wheels and mellow/flat decks ? I used to skate a fairly mellow deck with high trucks and small wheels, I liked the flatness of it, but now I have a very flat deck, the small wheels AND low trucks, haven‘t tested it yet, wanna know what you guys think of that

What’s the first instrumental? I make beats as well

Coming from a steeper concave to a mellow, learning curve is so hard for me, no pun intended

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Yes but what board brand has Steep decks??? skatshops dont exist in my area and it isnt listed in the details of any online shops i have seen, i only ever see the dimentions.... would love to have both but dont want to end up with another identical concave already have an 8 and an 8.25 and the only diffrence is one is a shmidge bigger

Only shaped boards i like is krooked , anti hero & santa cruz

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John we miss seeing you and the vlogs

What is full Concave mean!

i like how dlxsf put roman numerals on the top ply. i like a III or a IV which are the flattest

i like to use boards with mellow concave and steep kick like almost , verb , kfd boards it help me to pop because of steep kicks and control my tricks by flat concave Zach is fire 🔥🔥🔥

I like nhs flat boards with steep kicks. 8.25 is comfy. Might try an. 8.5 :)

anyone know what nike shoes that green t shirt guy is wearing?

I like my board size to be 8.25 to 8.5 with mellow concave and kicks. Makes flipping my board easier.

Flat boards just make me mad , idk why they just do 😂🤷🏽‍♂️

Irving vs jared game of skate is a must

Idk how it happened but I find myself watching this channel more than John's channel 🤔

What I've seen recently is that steeper concave is coming in more with the rise of brands like Hockey and FA so with that Is the new generation of skateboarders taking to the steeper concave. The skate world has mostly been mellower concave for decades and with the rise of these new companies I'm expecting a lot of change in the board shapes that are more common today

Ok I have a question for the progress daily team is it weird that I like to flip my board so I have a wide tail and a slimmer nose

There are decks with super steep concave yet mellow kick-tail angles/pitch. Like my current set up for instance. In regards to the tail anyway. 8” width and in that axis/dimension, the amount of drop in the center from the edges, is one of the most dramatic I’ve seen in a while. Uncomfortably steep for most. Yet my tails’ pitch is a cool 17-18 degrees. The nose is steep however. 20-21 degrees. I feel like that’s pretty average for nose pitch though. Even in flatter decks. Concave and kick-pitch, while being directly correlated, are not always and don’t have to be mutually inclusive of one another.

I have been living under Zachs bed recently

Why is Zach so good lmao does he skate a steep regularly?

Green shirt guy❤️

ford f150 in the rocket league shop

8.75 and up with steep concave and kicks and Im 6'3" so I like a 15" wheelbase.