Book: Tractor beam won't lock on, I don't understand. Doctore: Synchronize to 5.1732 Book: There are tens of thousands of frequencies how could you possibly know that. Doctor: God wills it! (I'm paraphrasing of course.) Lol there was a lot of bad stuff in this final episode. Like, "We can create a new body identical to the original but can't transfer the memories or essence." Uh, Picard did it with way less advanced tech centuries ago, so why not?

I love how Daniels is alive and well… time can’t kill him.

So the search was for nothing. They found the tech, didn't use it, and basically let it get destroyed all so Michael could learn to love again. And L'ak died for nothing lol So why was it important for Craft to find Discovery. Yes, they needed to tie up that loose thread from Short Treks. But why was it important to revert Discovery to its old configuration just so Craft could find it and then be on his merry way? What's so important about him? And I never got the impression that "Calypso" took place in a timeline where Control won. Glad Saru lived to get married. He's my favorite character. I really didn't care about Kovich's identity. It was a nice Easter egg, but meh... Overall, Discovery had more misses than hits in my opinion.

That epilogue was completely unnecessary. They should have left it open-ended for future canon-building instead of aggressive territory marking by the writers.

I really liked that once the Progenitors' tech was revealed, it was clear that... it really wasn't that special. It's basically the Iconian gateways combined with the Dominion cloning tech, without even the terraforming power of the Genesis Device or the consciousness-transferring power of the Soong golems. Definitely not a facility you want falling into enemy hands, but I agree with Burnham's decision to toss it into a black hole-the 32nd century doesn't really gain anything by keeping it around.

it has very little if any rewatch ability unlike the other trek shows

USS Discovery didn't deserve to just be abandoned like that and wow just how unimportant did they make Zora out to be after all the hype surrounding her in the first place.

He could have been saved. There is a race that Voyager encountered a people that procreate by resurrecting the dead of other species and changing the reincarnated into one of them. The resurrected retain all their memory, experience and personality, but require a small procedure to return them to their pre-ressurected physiology.

I’m glad it’s over and done. I eagerly await the next “series”…or idea. This whole thing has been aweful for me as a fan of Trek. This too…shall pass. 😔

Also anyone getting Orville vibes from the shuttles?

Still didn't see any Klingon in the 30th or 31st century.

12:03 the child is Leto, not Leo, his name is shown if you have the subtitles on.

Since Discovery can teleport ships places, I’d immediately keep it at base and use it to move the Fleet where they are needed (the ships can get back on their own)

I thought it was generally poor

I genuinely cried when it was ending. My dad was a huge trek fan, we used to watch it all the time together, going to the cinema to see the Kelvin movies, talking about the lore and links between each episode and series and even me bridging him into the ST:O beta canon. My dad died late April, and watching star trek will never be the same with being able to talk to him about it. The final season of Discovery hit hard with the reviles because I couldn't talk to him about it when these big things happened. and now its done.

the new starfleet uniform looks weirdly like thy orville. I liked seasons 1 and 2 but when they started thanking each other for every little thing it became annoying i thing its good that its over

I can't believe I stuck with it for 8 years. The final was unearned. Canonizing Calypso is a double edge sword. Some of Discovery was good, some could have been great but the show needed better writers.

An the longest, saddest chapter in Star Trek history has finally been put out of its misery. Now we await the day when someone in charge looks at Discovery and says "that didn't happen."

Thank God it's over. 🙏

I'm just happy they didn't go too heavy on the identity politics this year. It was a little over the top in previous years.

This show only lasted 5 seasons as a “fück you” to the fans who hate it and to say it lasted longer than Enterprise. I seriously TRIED to like this show and I just never could.

I liked the way the Breen look in this time period. But my issue with Discovery is the Burn. I don't want to consider that little thing as canon.

Progenitor tech 🤝 Omega molecule

Rick... Grand Master of turd polishing. * That's a compliment, Rick. You actually make this dumpster fire seem watchable to someone who has not seen it.

What if they become the Vadrash after the show ended+1000 years.. after all the Vulcans/Romulans got a name change too. The fella in that minisode might even be from the very place Book and Burnham retire too. As for loose ends there is a few still for Section 31 to clear up.

Thank God! The whole show was just a terrible nightmare to be forgotten 😂

Thank God this dumpster fire is put out and done! This finale had some good points, but just felt so forced and so many missing plot points missed during this episode itself. Some parts felt SO LONG and drawn out, I just wanted the story to continue rather than have a long-drawn scene about the crew being family. A little is fine, but not like this. This whole episodes flet like a cop out. I would have loved to see if the transporter question (Lower Decks) would be answered in this finale as the life equation. Or bring in "Q" to take away the answer saying that humanity is not yet ready, but soon... Something other than "nah" I don't think we should. 800 years of history just to give up and destroy it! Your ancestors wanted you to answer the question! Why did you not just send Zora with the Progenitors portal to both guard and forget about it until Michael Burnham descendants were "ready" and found Discovery and Zora, and finally answer the question! What I think upsets me more is that they never finished the series saying "these are the voyages of Star Trek Discovery"... I was never impressed or left wanting more from this series. Older Star Trek made me think and feel. I felt and thought nothing from this series. The show was terrible and I am glad it is done.

I'm glad that you enjoyed the show. I bowed out when it became clear it was not for me, and the tabs I kept made clear it never became something I was interested in, but canon impacts aside, not everything has to be.

Your outro music is the best in all of KZfaq.

Who knew this was still on!

You know the first beings would always be the Q then the progenitors

The best series of Discovery, given how much of a low bar it was, that wasnt difficult

I actually liked this ending? Certainly at least a mid-tier series finale for Trek. Not the best, but miles above the ENT finale. And in the long history of unceremonious cancellations of sci-fi shows, it's among the better improvised closers.

NO. I reject all STDs in all their forms. (Including this series.) It's not Star Trek and never will be.

I still need someone to explain to me why they threw the resource that is Zora and the Spore Drive away, so a thousand years later a refuge from another fallen Federation can have some nice moments with the Zora Voice actress? It's not like the guy from Calypso was taking Discovery to rebuild the Federation. They were working so hard to drop hints of a Calypso tie in that you can't imagine there's any other purpose for this deliberate stranding but that. It seems like they just wanted to snip that thread, so they did this.

This last season was actually good. From where DISCO started I'd say it really was a long road to get from there to here.

I am truly mixed. Personally, I loathe the trope of the ancient tech having been previously abandoned and discovered by the ancient race before. It was done in Contact, Stargate, and others. The trope is getting old at this point to me. Kovich being Daniels brought a deserved smile to my face. I really liked the nod to Enterprise. Kovich and Reno are tied as my favorite characters, so it gets a place in my heart. The Progenitor/Preserver tech not being able to bring back L’ak was refreshing. I’m glad they did not pull a deus ex machina with that. It would feel cheap. We already had one implausible resurrection in this show with Culber. Glad we didn’t make death a minor inconvenience. The Calypso nod is stupid. They painted themselves into a corner and had to walk themselves out. The Chase is one of my favorite episodes of Trek. I loved this season and think it was the best of the five. Disco has always been polarized. The resurgence of Trek has been mixed. Disco is easily my lowest rated of the new shows, but I’m glad they went out this season like they did. If we did not have Discovery, we would not have had Strange New Worlds or Lower Decks.

Honestly, I thought the Finale was kinda underwhelming. The fact that Kovich was Daniels was a nice Easter Egg.

first captain to abandon ship without any threats from outside... what a legend! And the ship is sentient and sexually identify herself as a female! AI life matter!

Not a 10/10 finale, but not bad. I really liked the Kovich/Daniels reveal! That makes the new Archer Station more potent for him I'm sure, Kovich owes a whole lot to Archer. I do wonder how old he is though, if my math is right he'd definitely have to be well over 150 years old in Discovery (unless he time traveled a bit.) I suppose with medical tech and the temporal Cold War, either is a believable possibility. Daniels also said to Archer in Enterprise that he was only “mostly” human and that he had “lived many years and lived many lives” so that could be an explanation.

Been looking forward to this. Your “recaps” have been my go-to this year. Glad I found you.

Calypso is not related to Control and V'draysh is just a distorted slang term for Federation, some bad guys in DIS S3 also said V'draysh so it's not something the UFP became in an alt timeline and the reason they ended with Calypso is because that was going to be the plot of Season 6 according to the showrunner and since they were never going to get to tell that story in full they decided to at least close the loop somewhat and sorta explain it at the end of 5

lol “What’s all the fuss Voyager?” Don’t tell Janeway either.

The progenitor tech should have been a recipe for biscuits.

I think they sent discovery back in time to 23rd century, that's why they stripped it back to technology appropriate for that time. For whatever reason that craft guy thing needed to happen? Maybe they found another discovery waiting for them in 32nd century so they had to complete the loop. I guess we will never know. It's probably was just about closing that short trek loophole. But they unfortunately created more questions.

Has Discovery contributed a single original major idea to Trek? Everything has been an Easter egg or a revisit. Is cry-whispering enough? If so Discovery leaves a rich legacy.

This was all bad dream or reality by Talosians for prisoner Burnham.

Oh please, we knew they weren't going to be allowed to keep their shiny new toy! 🫤

8:00 Obvious answer is that Colber picked up some stuff whole that trill dude was knocking around in his head. Mystery solved.

I really hope there is a better explanation for leaving Zora out wherever she is. Even if it's a different timeline to Calypso, Craft must be important somehow and Daniels must know why.

I was hoping that they’d use the progenitors power to give Zora a living body… but overall I’m happy with how it ended

So… with the progenitors tech/advanced lab being thrown into a black hole, what happens to all of the planets that were connected to it through the labs portals? It bugs me that they didn’t even consider all of those MANY worlds and what COULD happen to them by doing this.

I don't see the point of giving Progenitors progenitors. If time doesn't matter in the Progenitor device then why didn't the device's creators also leave someone there? And if someone else created the device then there would have been other life in the universe during the Progenitor's time.

It was on 5 seasons, so it was successful from that standpoint. (Of course, it was on streaming service. So, only hardcore fans would pay a monthly subscription to see it. It wouldn’t have lasted that long on TV although it debut on CBS. ) Ultimately, it failed in its mission to tell story of the Federation during the ten years before Kirk took over the Enterprise.

Thank god, its finally dead. The only problem is it took lower decks with it.

Daniel’s served on the Enterprise NX01.

I like the twist on Kovich, but it _was_ a cheap pop though...

So what was the reason to de-refit the ship before discarding it in space?

I enjoyed this the most out of the seasons I watched. I liked the moments with the progenitor and Burnham when she explained the different ways some people find meaning in life. Great way to end this series!

After 30-40 years,the only progress we see of the UFP is that they build two more headquarters and more old type ships

I wasn't a fan of the last episode; I understand it's the journey and not the destination, but when the destination is the same result as if.you had not gone on the journey at all, it doesn't feel like great storytelling.

I really didn’t like the whole final scene, felt jarring. I would have liked if they left it with the wedding but expanded on that scene instead

For the travel time: Perhaps they sent them to the edge of the galaxy on the _other side of the galaxy,_ so they have to traverse the whole Delta quadrant to get home. Doesn't help with the inconsistencies within _TOS,_ but it's fun to think of them doing it that way.

I find it stupid that that tech can’t bring someone back to life or make a clone with their memories intact. There’s prescience in Star Trek that they can make clones with memories. Also is that Progenitor Michael meets her great great great ancestor?!

7:34 ... Yeeah-Well ... sometimes it just ... is that way ... 😐 ... like ... I have No-Idea ... how I did that. I just did it. And I don't know if I can do it again. Probably Can ... but I don't know. 🤷

Your final review was more than it deserved!

well disco was consistent to the last at least, see guys fan ficts can be constant throwing what came before in the trash right up to the very last ep lol

To be honest, I'm kinda disappointed that there's no showdown between Rayner and Tahal, I was expecting that. Maybe future novels will find a resolution for that.

In all, I enjoyed the series. Wasn’t a huge fan of season 1 but I am glad I stuck with it. I also think they should have ended it at Saru’s wedding with Burnham beaming out for another red directive. Everything else could have been left open for interpretation and potential future series

care bears in space, sentimental schmaltzy nonsense. Can't say I'll miss discovery too much. The ep: having them float around was a bit goofy. why wasn't lak resurrect-able? His body was hardly cold lol. figuring out the frequency using space vibes? creators of life use a tri-force puzzle to access universe altering power? c'mon! I guess I'll miss Saru, I really liked the wedding outfits too!

Overall I liked this season. But the ending itself was... underwhelming. Especially the final scenes, which seemed very much an afterthought (the CGI of Discovery flying past the fleet looked horrendous). Its pretty much mid in terms of my favourite series endings. Not awful, but not fulfilling either. Nothing comes close to What You Leave Behind.

Sounds like it was the best ending discovery could have gotten but even then it was just good... Kinda reminds me pf enterpirse and Yoyeger just more polisering then both combind... Still I'm glad it was a thing and I'm glad we have the 32nd century now.

When I saw the episode was a bit longer, I realized there were doing a bit more to tie up the series. I just didn't expect all of what they did. The "reunion" in Michael's mind was bittersweet but nice to see Bryce there along with Owo and Detmer. I know the bridge crew wasn't the focus so it is nice we get to see them one final time. Also, I hope Tilly is in the new Academy series because we never did get much on the potential boyfriend angle. Hopefully that comment about her being the longest Academy instructor means we will see more of her. I think Discovery has always suffered from too many characters and not enough time for all of them.

I felt like they left discovery where it was, in the shape it was, to go back in time. It wasn't being decommissioned but undertaking a new mission.

ngl i love the look of older burnam. would like to see more of that uniform and style. also as someone else pointed out. discovery started at the battle of binary stars. it ends at the binary black holes.

I think you misunderstood the context of Calypso. It never mentions control once, and control's goal was to wipe out sentient life, which wasn't even close to what had happened in the Short Trek. It's more likely the 42nd century that the short takes place to begin with.

i think this is my least favorite star trek series of modern star trek it did so many things wrong like the warhammer style klingons and the ships and the redesign of the enterprise in season 2 wich thank god picard fixed that also the spore drive for me it make no sense kinda make the quantom slips drive like a downgrade or what ever they call warp 10 and the fact that the burnam was a step sister to spock was strange choise

Thank Odin this trash is over

This episode is where the reshoots felt the most. I think there was no way to close all the characters. I hope those left behind have an opportunity to shine on the Academy series. Also, they saying Tilly became the longest serving teacher on the Academy means Pelia never returns to teach at the Academy after SNW? After all, she could still be alive by Disco times. Though the Galaxy and Starfleet are dangerous places.

i know they probably wont see more the the 32c for a very long time but i would like to see what will happen with zora the relationship between a ship and her crew can be explored when the ship is sentient in of itself and is about to get a new body

It’s more important to show LGBTQ views than to write a good story. It gets in the way.

An absolute trash fire that didn't deserve anything beyond 2 seasons and should've been canceled. The fact I don't see much merch for this or anything else related to Kurtzman speaks volumes on how bad his shows are. Hopefully the next trek has actual writers whom are writers first and activists second. It's sad when an MMO of all things has better trek stories than actual canon.

Hi Rick, can you tell me what rifle Hale is using in episode 100 of yours I think? The one with the temporal accords being signed and all of the subsequent episodes.

Season 2 was still the best but man that series finale finally concluded years amount of shit

I really didn't like the new captain's uniform, but I did like the admiral uniform

This show is full of bad writing.

Saru an his Wife got dat drip.

Can I have my Terry Matalas series now?

My thought is that one day cannon will catch up to the discovery time time eventually…. Or am I being stupid what will happen then 😂😂

I actually did not like this last season. It started boring and ended boring. I thought at some point this was going to be about canceling out the burn which destroyed most Star Trek for what? 200-300 years of potential lore? We virtually will never be able to visit that era of Trek and if we do, we are stuck with those rules. Since Discovery showing up in the future fixes them not being in TOS lore doesn’t fix anything from the time of the Burn to now. Story-wise I also thought this was a weak season. This season had more in common with Super Mario Bros and/or video games in general with leveling up each episode or each level getting a little harder. Each episode was a virtual duplicate of the last till we get to the finale. IDK. I just thought they were trying to end it on some sort of Trek-lore moment since this show lacked much of standard Trek lore. I liked season 2-4. Season 1 was hard to swallow. Season 2, while I did like was too much Matrix/Terminator vs Starfleet. The Burn makes zero sense and a really poor choice as a story device. Seasons 3 and 4 while good make no sense either. Hey, 2200’s Star Fleet can function in the 3100s with a ship that is a mix of new and old tech, a crew that is out of time and it just works seamlessly. They save Starfleet and the probably the galaxy, what 2 or 3 times, twice in the 3100s? Yeah… NO… As much as I liked the tone and some aspects of the show this did not work well for me as STAR TREK. SNW is the only Trek show that actually feels like Trek. Tying in a short-trek episode which most did not see unless they are really into the social media aspects of following Trek was also a little questionable. Between the Kelvin timeline, this, SNW and Picard, Trek-lore is all over the place. Not as bad as where Star Wars is right now but not exactly in a good place. Picard season 3 did a great job of trying to fix most of it but you cannot fix years and hours of bad ideas in a handful of episodes that touch on these things as easter eggs. Trek needs to go in a different direction. Stop breaking the lore and just work within the arches you already have. Nearly 60 years of Star Trek and this is what they come up with…

Am I the ONLY ONE who spottet all Section 31 ships at the end of the episode????!!!

💩 ...I still cannot name the bridge crew...

The Discovery is sending the Breen to Shakari, the place where God is trap, like a jack in the box. The center of the universe, not the edge

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Discovery started as one thing, changed and changed again and continued to be confused. Eventually settling on an uber-woke storyline arc that was hard to digest. I don't mean to be a hater, but to me, it is a shame for fans of the franchise. It was weak, overly personal, a little cringy and kinda hard to watch, how it got 5 seasons is beyond me.... Sigh.

The series was very hit and miss with gems that stand up as some of the best in trek. I personally loved Saru's character arc and the mirror universe stuff was pretty fun. But there are a whole lot of misguided attempts at trying to be new for the sake of being new. Ultimately, I'm glad they tried new things and overall I liked the series. I will wear my DISCO shirt proudly. It just took a long time to find its identity.

It's been a while since I watched Calypso, but did they say Control prevailed, or did people just assume?

Wonderful review Rick. Of all the Discovery reviewers, yours feels most in line with my own take of season 5. Thanks for pointing out the intro change up. I failed to notice as I went with the skip option. Overall I enjoyed watching all 5 seasons and I'm a bit down trodden that there will be no more Disco Trek. Thankfully I have AMCs reinvisioning of Anne Rice's "Interview with a Vampire" to help dull the sting.

Didn’t this show end a couple of years ago?

Worst writing ever, yhey threw both the tech and discovery in the trash. Like why not send stamets in there for like 20 minutes to idk scan something? Getting really tired of this woke culture ruining things for the majority of the fan base