Why The BEST Speedrunners THROW

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CONEY

CONEY

Жыл бұрын

Coney reacts to ‪@SimplyN64‬'s video on Mario 64's Weirdest Tradition and learns why these speedrunners don't use the faster console. Also, Coney unnecessarily roasts Simply for some reason, what a bully...
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Пікірлер: 82
@nomannic1
@nomannic1 Жыл бұрын
8:30 there's a reason they don't call it W cancelling.
@staticchimera44
@staticchimera44 Жыл бұрын
Wow that's a good one.
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 Жыл бұрын
L(-cancelling)+ you fell off since you wavedashes off of the ledge + noob + learn to dash dance + 4-stocked + your favorite character is Ness before Ultimate and/or Kirby after 64 + skill issue + Ultimate players don’t even try their favorite character’s tech + g&w’s shield + Melee is still the best game in Smash and it was an accident
@numa2k147
@numa2k147 Жыл бұрын
Watching you on stream made me try a blindfolded speedrun it was the worse idea I ever had, what was I thinking.
@brodude5014
@brodude5014 Жыл бұрын
69 nice
@Xxblade17
@Xxblade17 Жыл бұрын
Lmaoo
@numa2k147
@numa2k147 Жыл бұрын
@@Xxblade17 I couldn't begin to align myself on where I was in game and all the noises and music almost made me have a panic attack stg 😭😭😭
@Xxblade17
@Xxblade17 Жыл бұрын
@@numa2k147 damn
@numa2k147
@numa2k147 Жыл бұрын
@@Xxblade17 I laughed it off it's cool 😅😅😅
@unholyzell
@unholyzell Жыл бұрын
The best thing about this video has nothing to do with Mario 64 but Coney's attention span getting stunlocked on the dynamics of human hair
@Rockleefan3
@Rockleefan3 Жыл бұрын
Black shirt simply does indeed seem sadder. Btw it’s impressive, that you and your editor were able to make a hilarious reaction video out of a serious informative video.
@Yeeterora
@Yeeterora Жыл бұрын
Btw Mario 64 on the NSO+ N64 emulator is the og rom and you CAN blj, The version that they dump on is on the Mario 3D all stars release.
@NrettG
@NrettG Жыл бұрын
Wait really? why the fuck is it not on 3d all stars then.
@scrunkore
@scrunkore Жыл бұрын
@@NrettG because 3das 64 is the japanese rerelease with a texture upgrade while nso 64 is the original english rom
@NrettG
@NrettG Жыл бұрын
@@scrunkore I mean I get that because it also includes rumble but if their already offering the different language versions in 3das why not just add in an update the old version? It just feels really redundant to have two different versions available to customers and not to both sides.
@jojonono2679
@jojonono2679 Жыл бұрын
Coney : "I don't like videos where they talk to the camera" Coney's entire channel:
@0_Cardboard_0
@0_Cardboard_0 Жыл бұрын
Coney when he plays PM “Oh my god… I get it”
@matthewbartlett3442
@matthewbartlett3442 Жыл бұрын
Inside you are 2 wolves. They look like this 5:36
@SirLightsOut99
@SirLightsOut99 Жыл бұрын
I had no clue that Mario 64 on the switch patched out BLJs, but I find it legitimately funny that they’re in Lego Mario, but you can’t actually do one in the newest port of the game.
@yaboipaps9938
@yaboipaps9938 Жыл бұрын
Mario 64 on the 64 emulator can blj, it's only the 3d all stars version that doesn't have blj's
@SnuggsMcDuff
@SnuggsMcDuff Жыл бұрын
​@@yaboipaps9938they literally said in the video that the Japanese 64 Shindu version patched out blj
@theotherjared9824
@theotherjared9824 Жыл бұрын
The complaints of the shindu version are a bit hyperbolic. The changes only negatively affect these speedrunners. It's an acceptable version for average players.
@illford6921
@illford6921 Жыл бұрын
nah I don't speedrun but the glitches are fun to have anyways, the wing cap glitch and just seeing how long you can blj for is cool
@IshimuraOrigin
@IshimuraOrigin Жыл бұрын
Coney caring more about Simply's haircut and stuff than the topic of the video. God tier content
@ShratTheMighty
@ShratTheMighty Жыл бұрын
the most discussion with chat on this video were about simply's hologram and melee classic coney
@Oh-Ben
@Oh-Ben Жыл бұрын
That troll account taking the WR is the most hilarious story never told.
@danih.5675
@danih.5675 Жыл бұрын
Should of been titled “ A tale of two Simplys”
@saturnusdevorans
@saturnusdevorans Жыл бұрын
Apparently the N64 is very easy to region unlock. There's just a plastic gate that you can just unscrew and remove from your system. You can just buy a new gate that lets you play any region.
@illford6921
@illford6921 Жыл бұрын
I like L-Cancel reduced lag but after like a week it stops mattering because then your rate of hitting them goes up to like at worst 80% and at best 95%, i don't think i've missed many L-Cancel it's just a bit of a weird barrier to entry, i'd rather just use Auto L-Cancel but it doesn't matter a huge amount, it's more of a nitpick tbh
@gomjabbar6246
@gomjabbar6246 Жыл бұрын
L-Canceling does have some competitive relevance even if you would hit it 100% in training because of hit lag. If you can get hit when your opponent expects to be doing a whiffed spacing move, you can move the l-cancel window enough to make them miss. Add in a crouch cancel and you can get huge plus frames here if your are l-canceling on muscle memory rather than visuals.
@alphajnitro0072
@alphajnitro0072 Жыл бұрын
8:30 I'd rather just have arieals with low landing lag than L canceling. In a heart beat I'd replace L canceling for that mechanic in rivals that let's you fast fall out of attacks in hit
@gvulture1277
@gvulture1277 Жыл бұрын
When N64 emulation gets closer and closer to cycle accuracy (which recently got a big improvement on Ares and most likely coming to Simple64 soon) then trying to track down a working N64 with controller and cartridge won't be important. Next task is solving lag but this is where Raphnet comes in as they made an N64 controller adapter to USB and these N64 adapters have a plugin for emulators to get direct access from the controller so the emulator reads 100% accurate signals of the entire controller so it's console accurate including memory cards, rumble packs and Pokemon addons, also gives the option to get as low as 1ms input latency with Raphnets Adapter Management Software.
@bobjones9385
@bobjones9385 Жыл бұрын
Dark mode simply vs light mode simply
@portalfreak7628
@portalfreak7628 Жыл бұрын
Funny thing about the 3D All Stars version of 64 is, if you have the expansion pack plan for Switch Online, you can literally play the unpatched BLJ version of 64 in its entirety lol
@ValueNetwork
@ValueNetwork Жыл бұрын
Wait so the only reason why people don’t play on a newer higher quality platform is tradition? Screw that if you have a chance at the record why willingly handicap yourself. Plenty of vintage Nintendo games are speedran on emulators, 2D Mario runners do it so why can’t the 3D crowd
@moonkoto
@moonkoto Жыл бұрын
The times are recorded based on what they used to play the game on. So NG4 and VC are recorded separately.
@pacman10124
@pacman10124 2 ай бұрын
elitism
@NBDbingo5
@NBDbingo5 Жыл бұрын
On L-cancelling, the guy who compared it to dribbling? Mod him. Simply saying it adds depth? I guess mechanically, like frc or slashback in ggxxac+r, but it doesn't add strategic depth, so I don't defend it
@portalfreak7628
@portalfreak7628 Жыл бұрын
9:26 "When I first came into Mario, it was kind of toxic." Uuuuuuhhhhhhhh
@plabcentral630
@plabcentral630 Жыл бұрын
I would get into melee if there wasn’t L canceling. I just don’t have the dexterity to do it.
@TheFamousLoser
@TheFamousLoser Жыл бұрын
This video is like “Boyhood” Give it an academy award.
@wichiewamirez5599
@wichiewamirez5599 Жыл бұрын
Coney you need to upload more videos. I miss you
@Vyhox2000
@Vyhox2000 Жыл бұрын
This is a pretty good video concept. Watching alongside Coney really helps dampen the pain from all the cringe
@blujay1294
@blujay1294 3 ай бұрын
Poor hyasin man, that was a shithead move
@Connor_Kirkpatrick
@Connor_Kirkpatrick Жыл бұрын
9 days of straight reacting, content fast
@byrontheusurper6505
@byrontheusurper6505 Жыл бұрын
I hope the switch n64 emulator Version has bljs, that's the one I'm playing rn
@Breeze926
@Breeze926 Жыл бұрын
I haven't really competed on Melee or PM so maybe my L-Cancelling opinion is irrelevant, but I don't see the point of an extra input that you would never want to not do.
@AkashianRecords
@AkashianRecords Жыл бұрын
It's funny how there is Nintendogs music playing in the background
@jactotum
@jactotum Жыл бұрын
i expected to see mention of Fig's emulator lag reduction code, shout outs to his Marth tho it is the truth
@kathy5618
@kathy5618 Жыл бұрын
new coney video :)
@camronholman
@camronholman Жыл бұрын
absolutely
@TheStickCollector
@TheStickCollector Жыл бұрын
I saw this before. Crazy how cheaters can ruin everything
@afrogplayingpiano4287
@afrogplayingpiano4287 Жыл бұрын
a tale of two simplys
@fryingpanda9103
@fryingpanda9103 Жыл бұрын
WHERES THE GEEP CONEY? TELL US
@Messer-jk8qr
@Messer-jk8qr Жыл бұрын
What about Mario 64 DS? :)
@TikiBadgerSSBU
@TikiBadgerSSBU Жыл бұрын
Bro I literally BLJ on the switch version what do you mean?
@byrontheusurper6505
@byrontheusurper6505 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah I watched this
@InterloperBob
@InterloperBob Жыл бұрын
I'm reacting to Coney reacting to something I already reacted to.
@Astar72439
@Astar72439 Жыл бұрын
L-Canceling POG
@DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly
@DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly Жыл бұрын
L canceling sucks, its a dumb quick time event
@Xxblade17
@Xxblade17 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@Xanek
@Xanek Жыл бұрын
Very dumb that people bashed on the guy who got the WR on the Wii version just because it was played on the inferior and slower version. That should be a feat, showing that you can best others on the worse version.
@thiagocarneiro610
@thiagocarneiro610 Жыл бұрын
I think you misunderstood the video, the Wii version is considerably faster than N64. That's why Simply talks about players making it "more difficult" by only running on N64
@onkarlally
@onkarlally Жыл бұрын
The wii version saves minutes, the run if done on n64 would not have been record due to lag and other such hardware related stuff. But nobody should have attacked the guy just for playing on a different version, the leaderboard separation by platform solves this issue neatly though.
@3eve0n
@3eve0n Жыл бұрын
wii version is faster, not slower.
@RunstarHomer
@RunstarHomer Жыл бұрын
Coney boney :)
@kalikeliihoomalu1661
@kalikeliihoomalu1661 Жыл бұрын
Are you related at all to Charlie Kirk?
@argenizt123
@argenizt123 Жыл бұрын
holy moly simply's chest hair and neck beard are about to connect into a supercontinent
@cloverleaf5645
@cloverleaf5645 Жыл бұрын
Yay
@3eve0n
@3eve0n Жыл бұрын
imagine being so much of a brainlet you think literally just pushing a button to go faster with no downside at all adds depth.
@DREW-TO-THE-BEE
@DREW-TO-THE-BEE Жыл бұрын
P
@jf4617
@jf4617 Жыл бұрын
6th
@Squidmoto3
@Squidmoto3 Жыл бұрын
I hate L cancelling because it's pressing buttons purely for the sake of pressing buttons. Unlike things like wave-dashing, wave-landing, moon walking, B reversing, shield dropping, fox-trotting, dash-grabbing, pivot-grabbing, and probably even more things i'm forgetting - it's something that could happen 100% automatically and it would only ever help you. On top of that, it's easier than all of those things - so now you're left with a mechanic where you just have to press the L button every time you land... just because the other person is doing it and if you don't you're at a disadvantage. It doesn't take time to learn or improve at, it's just an incredibly shallow mechanic that adds more stress onto your hands and controller just for the sake of doing it. The only reason most Melee players like it is because it technically makes the game harder, which means the gap between them and someone bad is bigger, which makes them feel like their invested time into the game has paid off a little more. I'm 100% for mechanical depth, which is why I love Melee and PM, but doing it in a way where it doesn't actually take mechanical skill is just lame for everyone. Even the people who say they like it would like the game just as much if it happened automatically, and the people who don't like it would of course also win in that scenario.
@Ryleeman54number2
@Ryleeman54number2 Жыл бұрын
Really disagree here. A good esport has hard barriers of entries like this. Its why melee will outlive ult. Without it every second of competitive play becomes less impressive. I bet you want steve banned too lmao
@Squidmoto3
@Squidmoto3 Жыл бұрын
@@Ryleeman54number2 I don't care if Steve gets banned or not - and no a good eSport does not have a hard barrier of entry. Look at every single actually big eSport. CS:GO, Valorant, League, Dota, Rocket League... all these games have tutorials that teach you the basics and the people you face are just as bad as you are starting out. Melee obviously isn't online, but it also obviously isn't popular when compared to these real eSports. Sure it will outlive Ultimate, but it won't outlive actual real eSports because new players have a massive wall of things to learn to even have a chance against a bad player - and L cancelling is just another thing on the wall. Say what you want, but at the end of the day the game designers at Nintendo clearly disagree with you, and as a game designer myself I do too. You don't actually understand this space at all (clearly) and you fall into the same group of people I mentioned before, where you think the harder the game is to play the more impressive it makes you look - which just isn't true. You're very obviously one of those people who think college shouldn't be free because you had to pay for it - which is just selfish greedy and pathetic behavior.
@Ryleeman54number2
@Ryleeman54number2 Жыл бұрын
@@Squidmoto3 CSGO has a very high barrier of entry??? Rocket league has wave dashing a hidden unintended mechanic
@Ryleeman54number2
@Ryleeman54number2 Жыл бұрын
@@Squidmoto3 This might actually be the dumbest thing ive ever read. L cancelling ISNT for the casuals. Fuck the casuals we dont need you yall leave anyways. Youre so misinformed about the state of melee aswell. You also just prove my point of barriers of entry by giving examples like rocket league and csgo. You think nintendo being against competitive things is a shocker? What kind of point are you even making with that. Melee has lived for 20 years and the current meta is the most unique in a long time. Melee will outlive valorant no doubt
@Squidmoto3
@Squidmoto3 Жыл бұрын
@@Ryleeman54number2 CS:GO's barrier to entry is map knowledge, which just comes with playing the game casually. No advanced tech in Melee comes naturally - it comes from looking things up and practicing alone. CS:GO is like playing basketball, while Melee is like just shooting free throws. Also the difference between Rocket League and Melee is that Rocket League has the ability to be patched, so even if it has an unintended mechanic, it was very intentionally left in the game - while half the tech in Melee is a bug that can't be fixed. The fact you think these things are the same shows how little you understand eSports and game design.
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