Confessions of a Christopher Nolan Fanboy

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@starkingbiker
@starkingbiker 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my, David Leans voice when talking about Ryans Daughter, soul crushing stuff.
@canofcoke7999
@canofcoke7999 3 жыл бұрын
:(
@geezus4418
@geezus4418 2 жыл бұрын
:(
@nicanornunez9787
@nicanornunez9787 2 жыл бұрын
Dude should made some superman tv episodes. Today we are so happy with Marvel movies and we eat up all that like pigs.
@sdprz7893
@sdprz7893 3 жыл бұрын
This hits so hard after watching TENET
@joeydubbs763
@joeydubbs763 3 жыл бұрын
Tenet sucked.
@dontneedtoknow9629
@dontneedtoknow9629 3 жыл бұрын
Tenet is a great experience, but a barebone film when you watch for character study. It's spectacle + concept film, and it won't win any awards, but that's fine.
@Leprutz
@Leprutz 3 жыл бұрын
@@dontneedtoknow9629 It will win at least one award if not two.
@dontneedtoknow9629
@dontneedtoknow9629 3 жыл бұрын
@@Leprutz I don't think so. I view TENET in its focus and characters as a straight scifi action flicks, and they never won an Oscar. Objectively, it's one of his least deserved film to get an oscar in anything not related to techincal aspects, but man do I enjoyed watching it.
@Leprutz
@Leprutz 3 жыл бұрын
@@dontneedtoknow9629 Maybe I didn't understand correctly but I do believe there were some actionfilms that have won oscars. More for their technicl aspects. And this is exactly what I believe for tenet. I believe it will or will be nominated for best score and maybe.... welll I category for best stunt work doesn't exist yet so just for best score.
@lordkingston
@lordkingston 3 жыл бұрын
You’re not wrong at all! Wait till you see TENET! it was the first time in a Nolan film when I got to a point in the movie where I honestly just didn’t care-didn’t care about any character on screen; didn’t care about what was happening, and frankly didn’t care if everyone in the film died or lived at the end. Chris Nolan is a great technical director and he should work with writers that have a better grasp at characterization like in his earlier films. His underrated film Insomnia was, in some ways, a better remake of the original. And that film explores themes that he would go on to explore in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. TENET is Christopher Nolan bringing his increasingly “epic” (bombastic) style to the spy genre. Yet it leaves the viewer merely praising the technical aspects but cold and uninvolved with the people on screen, who aren’t so much as characters as they are merely ciphers and plot devices who serve to convey ideas. Even the narrative feels forced in a way to fit the conceit of the concepts that Nolan wanted to explore. Compared to another technical director such as David Fincher, who only works on projects where he finds the right script with compelling characters, and he can make equally “dark” films but with technical excellence and yet characters who are fully realized, even if they are on a downward trajectory. I enjoyed this “Confessions of a Chris Nolan fanboy” video. It clearly articulates the truthful possibility in a way that others might already notice but doubt in themselves simply because they can’t articulate it well enough. Even though, in our collective viewing gut, we know this. It’s one thing to introduce daring ideas but it’s another thing to weave it compellingly with fully realized characters in an equally compelling narrative. All the best scriptwriters agree on this one thing: it always starts with characters on the page. Nolan, however, very likely, starts with concepts. P.S. Chris Nolan is a huge David Lean fanboy. Could be unconsciously following in his steps.
@kim1570
@kim1570 3 жыл бұрын
Excellently put!
@EmlynBoyle
@EmlynBoyle 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Did not give a toss about any of these characters. Especially the wife who is supposedly the heart of the movie.
@misterairborne654
@misterairborne654 3 жыл бұрын
Strange. I really cared for and enjoyed the characters and TENET, while also being able to be immersed in the concept. And I mostly enjoyed it for its attention to detail with the plot.
@MrMLE24
@MrMLE24 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@stansmith8499
@stansmith8499 2 жыл бұрын
Tenet was awesome!
@corbinmarkey466
@corbinmarkey466 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh, I feel like I could probably watch Ryan's Daughter only on the basis of its visuals 🤷🏼‍♂️
@treebranch4616
@treebranch4616 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, although I haven’t seen the movie, from the snippets out of this video I see it as the style of the movie and one I find pretty interesting
@markb234
@markb234 3 жыл бұрын
Me too haha
@timonsteup2877
@timonsteup2877 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh it is incredibly dull.
@BugVlogs
@BugVlogs 3 жыл бұрын
It’s an absolutely gorgeous film, but it’s nowhere near as engaging as Lawrence of Arabia or Doctor Zhivago
@FlyingFocs
@FlyingFocs 2 жыл бұрын
@@treebranch4616 I think it might be because old school epics are hard to come by nowadays, so even the less-than-stellar ones stand out, though that is just my layman's assessment.
@admo547
@admo547 3 жыл бұрын
I understand and recognise the flaws of Interstellar but still....man i love it
@kalmanta1824
@kalmanta1824 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, it has one of my favourite character moments in his whole filmography, Brand confessing her love for Edmund, McConaughey/Hathaway chemistry, old Doctor Brand confession. Honestly, it’s in my top 10 film of all time, and people told me if that’s the fact, I should watch more films. But I‘m defending this movie for the rest of my life, the same with The Last Jedi.
@DerezzedMan
@DerezzedMan 3 жыл бұрын
@@kalmanta1824 You dare to compare Interstellar with The Last Jedi??? 1) Yo mama jokes 2) luke milking a space cow 3) 30 minutes wasted in canto bight 4) the whole Holdo character and nonsensical plot 5) leia force flying 6) useless Snoke and praetorian guards 7) benicio del toro's character 8) Luke Skywalker zoom call fight 9) Rose talking about "fathiers" slavery but not children slavery? 10) the force theme overused 11) literal destruction of the skywalker lightsaber 12) the fact that TLJ copies a lot from Empire and ROTJ. A) Snow/Salt planet Imperial/FO attack on Rebel/Resistance Base. B) Luke/Rey going into a dark place and having a vision of themselves. C) Emperor/Snoke showing to Luke/Rey the almost defeated forces of the Rebellion/Resisrance.
@kalmanta1824
@kalmanta1824 3 жыл бұрын
JosephTheCastle They made Luke the best SW character with this movie. I actually like the CB subplot, kinda all over the place with the style but I like the „Prequely“ feel to it. Rey‘s training lessons. Leia finally using the force in an awesome way. The whole visual style to it with the red theme. The throne room fight/sequence. Rey/Kylo interaction and chemistry. Everything on Crait (symbolism with the salt and „red wounds“ of the fight, Luke being an absolute badass to Kylo) Gosh, I love this movie so much, even the absolutely atrocious RoS couldn’t make me hate TLJ in retrospect.
@mousec58
@mousec58 3 жыл бұрын
@@kalmanta1824 Honestly interstellar is one of my all time favourites , yes it does have flaws but there's just something about the emotion in it and the relationship between him and his daughter .. and its just mirrored by one of Hans Zimmers best scores
@breatheeasily4013
@breatheeasily4013 3 жыл бұрын
I started watching the first 15 minutes and stopped, I was bored, man!
@KW-vy1rf
@KW-vy1rf 3 жыл бұрын
Aw, that David Lean interview is so sad. He looks so broken. I don't want this to be a comment that just trashes film critics because I follow many of them and often respect their opinions but I do think it's unfortunate when criticism is so scathing it breaks a director's spirit. I mean, Doctor Zhivago's a great movie! An absolute epic in the old tradition and the scale is a crucial part of it. I can't speak for Ryan's Daughter since I haven't seen it but I'm sure it's not /that/ bad. Anyway, has anyone ever told you you look like Daniel Bruhl?
@elwinator33
@elwinator33 3 жыл бұрын
The Roger Ebert review wasn't really nasty though. I think he was very fair, and he did recommend it on the basis that Lean is a great director, and that a great director's failures are as important as their successes.
@Y.M...
@Y.M... 3 жыл бұрын
@@elwinator33 define 'failure', because that's an awfully black and white way of looking at film. I prefer the simpleton approach over false grandiosity. If you like the movie, yay. If you don't, well shucks, I guess there are a billion others to watch.
@Daneelro
@Daneelro 3 жыл бұрын
I too had the impression that Ryan's Daughter was too grandiose for the story. In fact, I barely remember the story, I mostly remember the Irish seacoast. I had no such problem with Doctor Zhivago.
@theonlooker6727
@theonlooker6727 3 жыл бұрын
He looks more like Taylor Kitsch.
@michaelguerrieri3486
@michaelguerrieri3486 3 жыл бұрын
@@elwinator33 g
@RodTejada502
@RodTejada502 3 жыл бұрын
Im mesmerized in three levels: - Being able to deal with your own fanboy-ism is SO VERY HARD. And you not only did it well, but did it FUN. Wow! - The optimism and joy of cinema comes through and despite being a bittersweet video, you ended on a hopeful note. We need that! - MY GOSH, THOSE VISUALS!!!! I was grinning ear to ear with every subtle animation, every play on typography, etc. *chef's kiss
@matthewjloller8442
@matthewjloller8442 3 жыл бұрын
Can we take a moment to appreciate that this man basically said exactly what everyone is saying about Tenet now, except TROFS said it 2 weeks before anyone had ever seen the film
@Bleedler
@Bleedler 3 жыл бұрын
What is everyone saying about tenet?
@leon9021
@leon9021 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bleedler That it was too ambitious and big for its own good. I think its his worst film.
@awittypseudonym2520
@awittypseudonym2520 3 жыл бұрын
And having seen it, while I like the movie , it is very frustrating. It could have been incredible. And I wanted it to be. It was spectacularly shot, but the plot was too exposition heavy, leaves you to fill in far too many blanks, and doesn't flow that well. Everything on screen is great, but just doesn't come together as much as it should.
@matthewjloller8442
@matthewjloller8442 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bleedler essentially everyone that sees it says that while it is visually stunning, Nolan ultimately sacrifices his characters and story for spectacle
@alexlloyd4221
@alexlloyd4221 3 жыл бұрын
@@awittypseudonym2520 Plus I couldn't get attached to any of the characters
@Moglidor
@Moglidor 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t mind me. Just here to help the algorithm.
@Y.M...
@Y.M... 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for adding no substance whatsoever, and I guess that makes the two of us now :P
@robertolecki7492
@robertolecki7492 3 жыл бұрын
And I just wanted for someone to read this comment before going to the next one.
@cecile9896
@cecile9896 3 жыл бұрын
Yes girl, give us nothing ⭐️I sure won't and neither will the next comment :)
@trinktmalnent7744
@trinktmalnent7744 3 жыл бұрын
I am here to make sure that Cécile is right.
@halftonefilms
@halftonefilms 3 жыл бұрын
I guess now you're reading this.
@Pssybart
@Pssybart 3 жыл бұрын
I get the idea I haven't heard from Nolan fanboys in a long while. Some of them used to be the most annoying people on the internet. Like if you watched a video from Tim Burton's Batman you would find rants in the comments on how the Nolan movies were infinitely better. And then when Interstellar came out those same fanboys would target Stanley Kubrick. I always liked Christopher Nolan. He's one of the most talented directors of the last two decades. I just felt he deserved a more mature fanbase. It's great to actually see a fan reanalyse his work critically.
@tdoong_2375
@tdoong_2375 3 жыл бұрын
same thing happened to me. Like what I said about Paparika that the film is so much better than Inception. Then these Indian Nolan fanboys starts giving me this statements: "excuse me...are you fucking kidding, daddy? What the fuck Paparika is even mean? Inception is the original. Paparika is just a plain rip-off of Inception and it's targeted for anime weebs." Like Paparika was released in 2006 and Inception was released in 2010, and calling Satoshi Kon a fraud just because he stole Nolan's idea for his film Paparika. like what the fuck?
@kenilmonpara6320
@kenilmonpara6320 3 жыл бұрын
he has the worst fanbase in my country India . If in India you say you dont like , lets say , inception , the mofos will say that " you dont get it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
@tdoong_2375
@tdoong_2375 3 жыл бұрын
that's why Nolan made a video call to all his Indian fans to promote his film Tenet. Because India, there, has a lot of toxic fans of Nolan. Like that's the reason people calling Nolan overrated because of his toxic fans and making fun of them because they only see his films and not other films of Spielberg, Scorsese, Bong Joon Ho, Wright, etc. Like Nolan is not the only director in the world. I'm not against India. I'm just saying that there are many toxic fans of Nolan out there and treated him like a k-pop star.
@kenilmonpara6320
@kenilmonpara6320 3 жыл бұрын
@@tdoong_2375 dude i completely agree with you . People in india are kinda dumb regarding cinema , bollywood produces pretty bad films and so when they see films of nolan which are pretty much accesible , they consider them to be the greatest thing ever just coz it confused them and made them think . I swear if you say you dont like nolan's film they would say that you dont get it and they do coz they r smart . Lol😂 and there are some sooo stupid fans that even comment on tenet's video and say that the ending made them cried or it was another masterpiece , im like dude it is actually a medicore film . And the same comment starts bashing - " YOU DONT GET IT ". I am an indian too but im not an idiot like all the other ones 😁. And i do consider paprika to be even better than inception . Lol😂
@tdoong_2375
@tdoong_2375 3 жыл бұрын
@@kenilmonpara6320 well I love Tenet. I don't care if people hated it or not, it's their opinion, you can't change that. The film is confusing and very complex to follow or understand it. And these toxic fanboys hailing Nolan as a genius. Like have they watch a David Lynch film, he's films are more confusing than Nolan's. Lynch's films talks about the surreal of the human condition. But fuck that. Nolan's films talks about time, space, and reality. But he's not the only one who tackle that kind of thing. It's like Nolan is the Holy God of cinema, and put it shame on God and Jesus Christ. Nolan is our Jesus Christ and Holy Saviour of Cinema. They even have a fucking cult about Nolan. they just talk about Nolan films. they even fucked up a DVD of Paprika. Calling it "a rip-off." It's like Nolan is the K-pop of cinema. These people make Nolan films like a theme park films. I've seen many favorite films list where I see, Inception as 1, TDK as 2, Tenet as 3, The Prestige as 4, Inception as 5, Inception as 6. It's like they're so mentally obsessed about him. When I ask someone " how is your K-pop bias?" They were like "it's Nolan" like wtf?! I can't stand with these people. they're the only problems I have regarding cinema. They're making his films look like a Marvel theme park films. They haven't seen a Stanley Kubrick film, a Scorsese, a Tarantino, a PTA, not any single shit. It's fucking funny and embarrassing. i can't really stand these toxic fanbase. Treating Nolan like a k-pop star
@jothishprabu8
@jothishprabu8 3 жыл бұрын
Long Story Short: Nolan got obsessed with IMAX and some Addictions could be Harmful. I hope he knows what he's doing.
@antona.1327
@antona.1327 3 жыл бұрын
An incorrect perception to have would be to believe that Chris started out as an aspiring auteur with minimalistic approach who gradually got a knack for bigger things because his movie budgets increased and he got used to it. Anyone who heard Chris speak of his filmmaking upbringing knows that his love for big spectacle isn't accidental. He said it many times: his love for filmmaking begun with movies such as the original Star Wars, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, and Superman The Movie. His appreciation for esoteric films developed with age. He always strived to make big films. So I think it's wrong to suggest he just got stuck in a loop by accident. But even without that in mind, I don't see any problem with Chris striving to make only big films from now on. He's not releasing them every year, and he's not doing them for any reason other than wanting to make his stories materialize. If we can have dozen superhero movies released every year and practically dominating every aspect of filmmaking industry for the past ten years, I think Nolan releasing a big scope movie once in three to four years isn't that much of an issue.
@iansmart4158
@iansmart4158 3 жыл бұрын
So we’ll said!
@lejam0771
@lejam0771 3 жыл бұрын
He may be well aware of that but he is stating the clear problem with this and the problem is that Nolan will (naturally) try to up-himself with each big film in terms of scope and general story. Look at Tenet, there’s clearly a hell of a lot going on with big spectacles and an end of the world possibility, can’t get much bigger than that and I can already sense the characters will be dwarfed in this. This pattern will probably continue resulting in him making a really bad film and will probably double down ending his career.
@cph4314
@cph4314 3 жыл бұрын
@@lejam0771 Considering Nolan spent 6 years writing the script, and that he hasn't actually made a bad film, we should have more faith that he'll pull Tenet off and will only get better with time, rather than predicting his doom. Interstellar is his biggest spectacle yet the story is still rooted in character.
@cph4314
@cph4314 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this video didn't strike me as one made from a fan boy, just one that in general like's his movies and respects him as filmmaker. Like you said Nolan's love for movies came from grandiose movies, to overlook that fact, and to not consider his motivations for the artistic choices he's made throughout his career would suggest that he doesn't know all that much about Nolan.
@lejam0771
@lejam0771 3 жыл бұрын
Cph 6 years writing the script doesn’t necessarily translate as being good. Nolan isn’t a good writer, he’s good at coming up with ideas but his articulation of the ideas seem poor. This is shown by the fact his films are far too exposition heavy. It’s actually interesting that his best written films are ones where he isn’t the sole writer. I’d also say Nolan has made a bad film, that is TDKR but one bad film is still really good.
@LuckyNumber48
@LuckyNumber48 3 жыл бұрын
Tenet suffers from this BIG TIME. He seems to not even hide that he wants to scale up scenes that doesn't need it at all.
@carbootstudios2459
@carbootstudios2459 3 жыл бұрын
damn
@Leprutz
@Leprutz 3 жыл бұрын
I find Tenet so boring that I was looking like 5 times at the watch to see if it was going to end soon.
@carbootstudios2459
@carbootstudios2459 3 жыл бұрын
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@yourt00bz
@yourt00bz Жыл бұрын
youre all missing a glaring part of WHY hje does these things and how sad and boring it is. truly a vapid and empyt director elevated due ot some kind of bizare anglo-american establsihment connections in an alliance that goes back 140yrs to UK realising it is declining and needed to bring USA back into fold through a mutual benefit arrangement.
@jeevangopal112
@jeevangopal112 6 ай бұрын
Sure, he went in that direction for Oppenheimer full throttle. It just doesn't work
@originaozz
@originaozz 3 жыл бұрын
As a Nolan fangirl myself (already booked IMAX tix for Tenet on first day of release in my country) this video really captures his growing scope & diversion from old ways. I think Nolan is getting more obsessed with making "cinema" at the visual & structure level that he rely less on character, or even plot. I love how he is always evolving, but I also miss the way he used to explore depths of philosophical themes and character deep-dive. Those are the things I love most about his best films like The Prestige, TDK, & Inception.
@rdpathan
@rdpathan 3 жыл бұрын
Well, you see the whole picture then. You cease to be a fan girl now.
@MM-hk4pb
@MM-hk4pb 3 жыл бұрын
This "gigantism concern" seems more like a preference issue among certain people. The man manages to make personal films despite their scope. I mean, think about how a lot of what surrounds us can be gigantic (the vastness of the universe and what remains unknown of it... for example) and yet we are all attached to a very personal subjective view. So, to me, that’s something Nolan can be praised for because he tries to present something similar to an extent. Also, the possibility of making us wonder about these massive imaginative visual things can be beautiful as well as meaningful, and I feel that’s also a purpose of his work. Would it be great that he makes smaller movies along the way? Of course. But if he’s going to do it then it would be preferable that he tackles such a project with passion and not just to be versatile, which is something he has said before. So his films have spectacle but also emphasize story, plot and characters, in my opinion, although it also depends on whether it is enough or not for some people which could be subjective. It doesn’t mean it’s not there, though. You can empathize with characters through action as well and not just with dialogue, backstory, etc. Which is the case on Dunkirk, for example. I believe he also tries to emulate with his movies some feelings we get from dreams. But that’s just something I think.
@rottensquid
@rottensquid 3 жыл бұрын
This may all be true, but Patrick H Willems has a great video about his cinematography evolution that convinced me not to yearn for his older films. By comparison, a lot of his earlier work looks downright sloppy.
@iansmart4158
@iansmart4158 3 жыл бұрын
M M Dunkirk is easily his most personal (and best) film but he doesn’t have ppl revealing backstories so ppl assume he has no characters. Which is odd. I find the choices ppl make in Dunkirk far more moving than the big gestures characters make in a lot of his previous films. The VO while Hardy watches his plane burn. Is one of the most beautiful and poignant things Nolan has ever produced. I’m less interested in TENET because it seems to be more technical than it is earnest and emotional.
@gensischosen251
@gensischosen251 3 жыл бұрын
Finally some girls apparatice Nolan film chimeagraphy instead of watching Dunkirk just because of Harry styles 😒
@BonkinBonuts
@BonkinBonuts 9 ай бұрын
Would love to see a follow up to this with Oppenheimer. So purely character driven and I think it’s Nolan’s best yet.
@mg6945
@mg6945 3 ай бұрын
It’s so interesting too because it technically does fulfill the “Nolan should go lower scale” thing that is said at the end of this video by being half the budget of TENET. And it does focus a lot more on character than spectacle. But it also still finds many ways to be a Certified Nolan Film, mainly in it being as long as it is and as structurally complex as it is. And of course in the real bomb drop. And now this half and half of going lower scale yet going crazier than he ever has just paid off greatly and won him his Oscars.
@highwind1991
@highwind1991 3 жыл бұрын
Nolan's films were some of the films that defined my love for movies when I was a teenager. But I have to admit after loving inception, the backlash that film got made me not only tired of Nolan's films, but made me question my love for his filmography for a long time. He's never made a bad film but The dark knight rises disappointed me after the hype died down and interstellar left me completely mixed and it was the first time I didn't see a Nolan film twice in a theater. So for seven years I felt indifferent about Nolan as a filmmaker. And then in 2017 a funny thing happened, I decided to watch all his films again, and see following and insomnia for the first time. It was like catching up with an old friend. My film tastes had evolved greatly and I had a better and different appreciation for his movies. Following was a solid debit feature, Memento is still an iconic masterpiece and his best work imo, insomnia is a solid remake, Batman begins is up there with the original Spider-Man for best origin story film, the prestige is great even though it loses some of its power upon rewatches, the dark knight is up there with Spider-Man 2 for greatest comic book film, inception is a brilliantly realized work of imagination, the dark knight rises is his worst movie and a second watch of interstellar made it a film I appreciate more for it's greatest failures and also it's many incredible highs. And then DUNKIRK became my new standard for modern day war films. That film showed a more mature and confident Nolan, one that uses the spectacle as substance but also toned down and balanced the scope to make us a participant to the event itself rather than be engaged in any particular character. Tenet looks great, and I'm curious how it will be remembered over time
@kaustavgoswami1998
@kaustavgoswami1998 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis, however I think TDK is a better film than SM2. The themes are more nuanced and it is better directed. Not to forget it gave us one of the most iconic villains of all time, while the latter antagonist was meh.
@JT-cx2ev
@JT-cx2ev 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaustavgoswami1998 Nolan wished his directing was as dynamic and confident as Sam Raimi's directing on Spider-Man 2. TDK having loftier themes doesn't change their flawed execution.
@cph4314
@cph4314 3 жыл бұрын
SM2 works on nostalgia alone. How anyone can watch SM2 today and not cringe throughout is beyond me.
@highwind1991
@highwind1991 3 жыл бұрын
@@cph4314 you have to have a tolerance for artful camp. The balance that Sam raimi pulls off in his films especially Spider-Man 2 is extraordinary
@cph4314
@cph4314 3 жыл бұрын
Adriano Vazquez a) you don’t. b) it’s not artful camp, just camp. And c) it is not balanced. Seriously man when was the last time you watched it? Watch it again, and try and look past your nostalgic bias. This is coming from someone that used to think it was great, now I can see my fondness for it is purely nostalgia.
@cameronromero1498
@cameronromero1498 3 жыл бұрын
This applies to Bong Joon-Ho, his last two films before Parasite was Snowpiecer and Okja. Both films were both around 50 million dollars to make and have multiple languages in them. Parasite was 15 million dollars and has more awards and more poplar than the other two. Small projects is better after getting amazing experience apparently.
@user-wh8gg1gl2z
@user-wh8gg1gl2z 2 ай бұрын
True
@LostUtopiaFilms
@LostUtopiaFilms 3 жыл бұрын
I get where criticism against spectacle has it’s place, but at the same time I don’t want the audience or critics to begin influencing/dictating what a filmmaker wants to make, or how they should make it. If Nolan wants to make a 2 hour spectacle with no dialogue then go for it. We have to allow creators the space to evolve and try out new things. Just my two cents. Also, I think it makes sense for Gotham to seem abandoned during TDKR. It was occupied by a terrorist and it was winter. I’d stay inside and out of sight too lol
@LostUtopiaFilms
@LostUtopiaFilms 3 жыл бұрын
Apologies also for just one big paragraph. My iPhone doesn’t have a return key on KZfaq anymore I guess 🤷‍♂️😂
@anthonymartensen3164
@anthonymartensen3164 3 жыл бұрын
We thr audience can't influence him even if we wanted to. Ultimately it's going to be his instincts and passion for another project that determines what he makes
@cph4314
@cph4314 3 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. Criticism of Gotham looking abandoned is dumb, terrorists literally patrolling the streets but sure let’s go for a wander. And Bruce probably isn’t a ‘world famous’ billionaire, just a billionaire that was out of the spotlight for most of his life, reappeared for like 4 years, tops, then disappeared again. Not like he’d be Elon musk famous or recognisable. Plus people are far too concerned with their own lives to give a shit who else is drinking coffee around them. This was an odd video to make.
@seanosullivan4935
@seanosullivan4935 3 жыл бұрын
@@cph4314 ye i dont really get why hes so concerned hes speaking about interstellar and TDKR which are his two biggest movies but theyre only 2 out of like 10. It was his artistic choice to go for the event over characters in dunkirk and i found it way more gripping. Im also not saying all of his movies are perfect but i really dont get why he bothered to make this video
@cph4314
@cph4314 3 жыл бұрын
@@seanosullivan4935 I guess with Tenet coming out a Nolan video was good content, and a controversial take would get more views. But I think he's deliberately overlooking Nolan's choices in order to give his argument more substance. And yeah with Dunkirk I think to focus on the character maybe would have even detracted from the film. Escaping Dunkirk and surviving is enough of a hook to keep people gripped, he said himself that he pitched it as he wanted to make it as close to VR as he could, to get people to experience as closely as they could the horror of war. Which he achieved. Masterpiece.
@spaperatoreassassino4994
@spaperatoreassassino4994 3 жыл бұрын
I fear that with tenet our worst nightmares about nolan have become true
@kim1570
@kim1570 3 жыл бұрын
They have. I'm a Nolan fanboy, but even I have to be objective enough to say that it was a lot of style but little substance.
@scifience8297
@scifience8297 3 жыл бұрын
I met him once when I was 7 at the beach before I knew who he was
@user-qb3jg8ep9t
@user-qb3jg8ep9t 3 жыл бұрын
Tell the story
@alecmuellervisuals61
@alecmuellervisuals61 3 жыл бұрын
Sci Fience enlighten us!
@kudaman511
@kudaman511 3 жыл бұрын
so
@CapitalFProductions
@CapitalFProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I’m hoping he still wore his suit to the beach
@aamirrazak3467
@aamirrazak3467 3 жыл бұрын
whoa for real? that's amazing, what did you say to him?
@AutumnRenne
@AutumnRenne 3 жыл бұрын
Is no one gonna talk about how AMAZING this editing is?! Wowww
@Quarter324
@Quarter324 3 жыл бұрын
As useful as it often is for consumers, film criticism just makes me want to tear my hair out sometimes with how one sidedly negative their criticism is. Michael Bay gets it the worst. I dislike his films, but there is still CRAFT behind his works. Rarely do I see film critics speaking with directors about their process or intent in their film before just bashing it wholy and completely, stamping these directors as hacks or failures without understand the greater context of the films production.
@Schmidtelpunkt
@Schmidtelpunkt 3 жыл бұрын
Should the audience as well ask the director before watching the movie?
@user-km9bx3gf3z
@user-km9bx3gf3z 3 жыл бұрын
i mean i hate michael bay with a passion but i do see where you're coming from
@corezmanga996
@corezmanga996 3 жыл бұрын
Also there just like in fine art and animation there are very contrasting schools of thought on what film is and what makes a good film. There are this who believe genre films are all garbage and those who prefer the more abstract and auteur films as superior and if we look at stories specifically. There are certain stories that value plot over character or in the case of classic sci fi, they value the idea and themes over fleshed out and well rounded characters.
@jaredhernandez6268
@jaredhernandez6268 3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen Birdman? There's a scene in there that makes the exact same point
@FlyingFocs
@FlyingFocs 2 жыл бұрын
Bay is an excellent example. I rewatch Pearl Harbor on a whim, and while it is very much not a good film, hot damn are there not moments where it manages to shine. It's just the overall package that weighs those moments down.
@abhinavrandive
@abhinavrandive 3 жыл бұрын
Tenet is gonna be like a litmus test for him.
@taiwothomas23
@taiwothomas23 3 жыл бұрын
No, it won't. He has already passed the test.
@anthonymartensen3164
@anthonymartensen3164 3 жыл бұрын
@@taiwothomas23 yeah it's like, yeah...
@leon9021
@leon9021 3 жыл бұрын
@@taiwothomas23 Except Tenet sucked kek
@taiwothomas23
@taiwothomas23 3 жыл бұрын
@@leon9021 Oh I've not seen it yet but I didn't have my hopes up. It doesn't really matter. He just needs an oscar at this point.
@leon9021
@leon9021 3 жыл бұрын
@@taiwothomas23 Most dont think its terrible, but I didnt like it and this video explains why pretty well.
@alexlloyd4221
@alexlloyd4221 3 жыл бұрын
I've also noticed this problem with Nolan for a while. 'Spectacle over character' perfectly describes my problem with Tenet. I couldn't really relate or care for any of the characters aside from Elizabeth Debicki's. It felt like I was watching an exposition scene, a set piece, then another exposition scene leading up to the next set piece etc. And unfortunately, the exposition was hard to follow. It's frustrating because I thought Dunkirk was a return to form
@kim1570
@kim1570 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. Like I keep saying, the movie was just style over substance. There was no emotional connection with the characters for me, even with Kat. To me she came off as a clumsy damsel in distress and even though some people might argue that her clumsy-ness was needed to put some of the scenes in motion, I got the feeling that Elizabeth Debicki could have been equipped with a much more bold and intelligent female role. I don't remember any Nolan movie with a damsel-in-distress female, and this movie was not a good introduction of that female archetype to Nolan fans.
@Facalanda
@Facalanda 3 жыл бұрын
0:57 I love how you used the faces from the Breakdown Position chapter from The Animator's Survival Kit! You are really getting better on the animation part!
@mrflipperinvader7922
@mrflipperinvader7922 10 ай бұрын
Oppenheimer turned things around
@arthousecouch
@arthousecouch 2 жыл бұрын
The lead character in TENANT is literally named "The Protagonist". He's not even hiding it anymore that he prefers spectacle over characters.
@alrazi9840
@alrazi9840 3 жыл бұрын
Nolan is the best commercial movie maker with unique ideas.. but I don't see him as an Oscar winning or legendary movie maker. Most of his movies are just characters going from one place to another and talking to one another and that's it. Take out the cool concepts and all you get is an average movie with no memorable character except the joker.. though joker is already an established character.. that's what I think of Nolan.. my own opinion
@gabrielmendez5561
@gabrielmendez5561 3 жыл бұрын
It’s an interesting idea, while I completely understand where your coming from, and dont think your necessarily wrong per say, I simply disagree because none of those things bother me, there’s not a Moment in Interstellar or The Dark Knight Rises that didn’t work for me, and the scale was necessary to tell the story of both films respectively in my opinion, I agree that I’m a fanboy, but it’s not that I don’t acknowledge the flaws, I know they are there but it’s one of those things where they aren’t flaws to me, they don’t bother me, I understand why they would bother someone else, but it’s the scale of his movies that sets them apart to me, scale that not even the best blockbusters can reach, like End Game, which never felt nearly as epic because the stakes weren’t there, agree to disagree I suppose
@o.marter
@o.marter 3 жыл бұрын
Yes exactly what i was gonna say. I genuinely like everything about Interstellar, and i completely understand why someone wouldn't. And most importantly Nolan knows what he's doing.
@lejam0771
@lejam0771 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think he is saying that the scale doesn’t suit the films you mentioned, what he’s saying is that there’s a clear pattern going on and soon enough the scale in his films will dwarf the characters all together. I think he is right.
@jaredhernandez6268
@jaredhernandez6268 3 жыл бұрын
I'd have to say I agree more with the video, but you seem like someone who knows what they're talking about and respects other people's opinions. That's awesome man
@gabrielmendez5561
@gabrielmendez5561 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaredhernandez6268 Thanks, I also just really like this channel, and love even the videos I don't fully agree with
@Milan-db3uy
@Milan-db3uy 3 жыл бұрын
Yea. There are many things that people may point out in interstellar as cheesy or corny and maybe even I might agree with some parts but in the end, it doesn't stop it from being the best movie I have ever watched in my eyes. There cannot be a perfect movie or piece of art it's just impossible so sometimes I just don't want to be critical about stuff when I have had no complaint personally only appreciation for a movie or story.
@clementlumumba4824
@clementlumumba4824 3 жыл бұрын
Chris Nolan's Tenet is gigantism on steroids!
@jjbrinbrin32
@jjbrinbrin32 3 жыл бұрын
I keep coming back to this video. Your editing and production is PHENOMENAL ! I love this, so very much. Beautifully crafted Andy
@ryandonofrio9213
@ryandonofrio9213 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite account on youtube and it absolutely needs way more recognition/followers... I hope it comes man you deserve it
@ebcooper
@ebcooper 3 жыл бұрын
Part of me was hoping more love for The Dark Knight Rises would be confessed here. Great video though, I always enjoy what you create. I especially enjoy these videos where you incorporate you own footage and animation. It will be interesting to see if Nolan continues onward with epics or if he’ll eventually return to a smaller scale. Whatever he decides to do, I hope he always challenges himself.
@spencermalley10
@spencermalley10 3 жыл бұрын
When it comes to the ending of TDKR, I've always found the criticism of "Why does no one recognize Bruce?" to be absolutely ridiculous. He's not a world famous figure, Falcone even said in Begins he'd have to walk a thousand miles to find someone who didn't know his name. I'd say where he is at the end is exactly that kind of distance. Also he spoke to people who new his identity in the Batman voice in The Dark Knight.
@michaelotis223
@michaelotis223 3 жыл бұрын
THIS! Thank you. Been defending that brilliant ending for years!
@redrabbitjohnson
@redrabbitjohnson 3 жыл бұрын
Bruce was famous, but he'd been a recluse for three years and by that point was assumed dead. With the clean slate program he and Selina would've been able to disappear fairly easily. A lot of the supposed gaps in logic in the film are misunderstood I think. There is often an explanation for those things, it's just played more sub-textually than in the previous films in the trilogy.
@spencermalley10
@spencermalley10 3 жыл бұрын
@Revanth It's an editing trick. Bruce isn't actually in the Bat when we cut back to the clock counting down from 5.
@cph4314
@cph4314 3 жыл бұрын
Even if he'd have to go a thousand miles to find someone who didn't know his name, that doesn't mean you have to go a thousand miles to find someone who wouldn't recognise his face. He was sheltered most of his life, then disappeared, reappeared somewhat publicly for 4 years tops, and then became a recluse. I'd more surprised if the majority of people did know what he looked like.
@ambskater97
@ambskater97 3 жыл бұрын
@Revanth lolwut?
@choubeyjiii
@choubeyjiii 10 ай бұрын
Having watched this video back in 2021, I'm coming back to it to see if your opinion has changed after Oppenheimer
@jacobsaul
@jacobsaul 3 жыл бұрын
such a well thought-out and superbly edited piece, brilliant as always. love your videos!
@oldmanlogan9616
@oldmanlogan9616 3 жыл бұрын
Nolan's movies are just too rewatchable. When the pandemic started I rewatched the Dark Knight trilogy, the first thing wanted to do when I finished it was watch it again lol. So I watched Prestige.
@Luca-bv5ic
@Luca-bv5ic 3 жыл бұрын
YES! It's insane. I normally don't rewatch movies before at least a good 6 months has passed, but I've already watched batman begins twice in like a month. Notice new and interesting stuff every time.
@mickbanner
@mickbanner 3 жыл бұрын
It did make me realise that everyone of Nolan's character is a reactionary device to reflect the changes in circumstance. They're only ever as deep as their next decision... Great video. I would love to see more interspectives on more of your fav movie makers.
@abdullahx4908
@abdullahx4908 3 жыл бұрын
The fanboy analogy at the beginning hit so hard for me. I’m a diehard Mandalorian fan, so it infuriated me when i saw a comment which stated that Mando and Baby Yoda’s goodbye in the season 2 finale was an unearned emotional moment because there was hardly any buildup. It also pointed out that Mando saving the child in s1e1 had no buildup and was there for plot progression. Naturally i fought back with counter arguments and the debate heated. At first, i was like “This guys wrong”, but then i thought about it for a while and realised why i reacted the way i did. I didnt want to lose my appreciation for The mandalorian. I was afraid that if i saw its big gaping flaws, i stop liking it and there would be a huge hole in my heart. It was hard for me to accept the truth and now i feel genuinely terrible as a result.
@LycanVisuals
@LycanVisuals 3 жыл бұрын
Get your hot sauce yet?
@docflights
@docflights 3 жыл бұрын
Another director that would fit the same category as Nolan and Lean is Peter Jackson. He started with some interesting low-budget movies then got a huge break with the spectacle-filled LOTR trilogy. His success was both commercial and critical. After LOTR, Jackson made King Kong which everyone was on board with. Then the hobbit trilogy was just pure spectacle, no heart. Then he made a small indie film with The Lovely Bones. Then he made a documentary about WW1. His exceeding spectacle was put away instead he brought out the actual filmmaking.
@albiehay5567
@albiehay5567 3 жыл бұрын
Dang. Doctor Zhivago was my ground zero as a film lover. I'll never be able to look at David Lean objectively.
@iansmart4158
@iansmart4158 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a great film.
@LaurianeG.
@LaurianeG. 3 жыл бұрын
There's no real objectivity when it comes to art. We always judge based on our culture, background, beliefs, standarts and they will inevitably varies from person to person. I find the idea of people wanting to be "objective'" especially frustrating because it basically comes down to wanting to impose an opinion, rather than understanding one (aka why you or someone else like/dislike something).
@Luca-bv5ic
@Luca-bv5ic 3 жыл бұрын
pretty sure it was mainly Ryan's Daughter that got crucified.
@francescomanzo3939
@francescomanzo3939 3 жыл бұрын
@@Luca-bv5ic BLASPHEMOUS!!!!! (not referred to opinions)
@FanOfFilms
@FanOfFilms 3 жыл бұрын
Such a unique discussion, and presented in your great unique style, hope this gains the attention it deserves.
@MrSnape77
@MrSnape77 3 жыл бұрын
This is the type of film-essays I'd like to see. Great content, mister Royal Ocean!
@CrackaLackaHacka
@CrackaLackaHacka 3 жыл бұрын
"Spectacle Over Character" sums up modern Zhang Yimou pretty well which is a shame because his earlier works are good.
@casperguo7177
@casperguo7177 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on
@JRyrie-ul6yw
@JRyrie-ul6yw 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, thinking back I can only remember very broad and basic character traits for those I remembered in Shadow.
@comradejosephstalinoftheus8698
@comradejosephstalinoftheus8698 3 жыл бұрын
*Great Wall flashbacks
@glenn.6202
@glenn.6202 3 жыл бұрын
Watch his newest: Shadow (2018) I think he returned to his root once again.
@CrackaLackaHacka
@CrackaLackaHacka 3 жыл бұрын
@@comradejosephstalinoftheus8698 Where my Crane Corps at?
@DanPurcell
@DanPurcell 3 жыл бұрын
Man your thumbnails are always so good hahaha -- really stoked for this video!
@alecmuellervisuals61
@alecmuellervisuals61 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t think I’ve ever identified with a KZfaq video as much as this one. Long live Nolan! I’ll always love his films. It’d be awesome to see a smaller Nolan project in the near future
@anthonymartensen3164
@anthonymartensen3164 3 жыл бұрын
I think he'll just keep getting bigger
@mhawang8204
@mhawang8204 3 жыл бұрын
His obsession with IMAX means it's unlikely that he will return to his earlier form technically. However, Patrick Willems did an interesting video about how IMAX actually helps Nolan become a better filmmaker visually.
@abdullahx4908
@abdullahx4908 3 жыл бұрын
It would be awesome if Tenet had humanity underneath the action and drama.
@anthonymartensen3164
@anthonymartensen3164 3 жыл бұрын
@@abdullahx4908 yeah I doubt it
@abdullahx4908
@abdullahx4908 3 жыл бұрын
Anthony Martensen don’t be pessimistic
@ronxinator9050
@ronxinator9050 3 жыл бұрын
I can't describe what style you edit with. But I love it, it's awkward, and the circles feel like classic James Bond. Keep going please.
@area51pictures
@area51pictures 2 жыл бұрын
Funniest part: Ryan's Daughter (no joke) is one of Nolan's FAVORITE MOVIES. Agreed. Trying new things is one thing. Playing it safe is another. End of the day, Nolan let himself get too insulated. Dude badly needs to go back to school on a guerrilla movie again. Because the man who directed Memento would make MINCE-MEAT of Tenet. Take a cue from Aronofsky. When he got (in his own words) "too far up his own ass" on The Fountain, he scaled back. Made a little movie called The Wrestler. Humble, sure -- but far from easy. A complete 180 from his other films. He busted his ass and IT SHOWED. Dude got his mojo back HARD. By the time he returned to big stuff & dropped Black Swan, he was a fully-formed craftsman. So please Chris (lol like he'd even read this). Get OUT of that comfort zone, mate. Do something small, character-driven. Like a Dogme 95 movie. Don't fuck with non-linear NOTHING. No setpieces. No IMAX. It'll be tough but worth it. Your heroes all did it, too. Hitchcock. Spielberg. Honestly, Kubrick did it so often, nearly every movie he made was a 180 from the last one. Take a hint, bro.
@popflicktionedits3256
@popflicktionedits3256 3 жыл бұрын
Well after Tenet I can successfully say you were right, as was Mike D’Angelo
@AS-um5eu
@AS-um5eu 3 жыл бұрын
After watching tenet I have realized his two main flaws. They are are convoluted stories but have a great plot and his bad character arcs. Also he tries to upscale the spectacle by using a lot of destruction.
@therobulus
@therobulus 3 жыл бұрын
the production quality of your videos might have turned you into my favorite movies essayist on KZfaq, Awesome Job Dude! always keeping an eye on yo letterboxd account ;)
@tonimashdane33498
@tonimashdane33498 5 ай бұрын
Four years later and this is still one of my go-to video essays. The most rational and relatable video about fandom of all time.
@devinpruitt9225
@devinpruitt9225 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t agree with his premise. I still disagree with critics who say Interstellar was too much of a spectacle. Frankly, I think Nolan’s films have all been incredibly entertaining, while also being nuanced and original. I think a lot of KZfaq film critics presume to tell him what kind of movies he should be making. I think he knows what he’s doing, and while his films like any others have flaws, they are mostly pretty brilliant. I think only the best directors can competently handle being given such insane amounts of money to tell a story. He can make great blockbusters. I think that in and of itself is a worthy endeavor, and it’s exactly what he should be doing.
@se7entv261
@se7entv261 3 жыл бұрын
agree !!!!!!
@loganwelty7094
@loganwelty7094 3 жыл бұрын
FACTS
@v5q211
@v5q211 3 жыл бұрын
2001 a space Odyssey>>>>>>>interstellar
@se7entv261
@se7entv261 3 жыл бұрын
@@v5q211 for you i think interstellar is 10000000000000000000 better than 2001 space odyssey
@rottensquid
@rottensquid 3 жыл бұрын
Christ, people. It's not a contest. They're completely different films, exploring very different themes. comparing them is absurd
@Leprutz
@Leprutz 3 жыл бұрын
The reason I love danny Boyle. He knows all scales of filmmaking and always switches between them.
@ruly8153
@ruly8153 3 жыл бұрын
Train spotting! I need to see that....
@area51pictures
@area51pictures 2 жыл бұрын
Also great example of an artist returning to guerrilla film (28 days later) after getting lost in hollywood (The Beach)
@keepperspective
@keepperspective 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, the editing on this is so magnificent and your classic music choices are so tight! I already forgave you any Nolan criticism when I felt the Saul Bass in your title cards.
@Diane.K.Williams
@Diane.K.Williams 3 жыл бұрын
My god the editing and scripting of this video is perfection
@contemplatestudios5950
@contemplatestudios5950 3 жыл бұрын
I think Nolan likes to present his characters' emotions through the twisted world that they live in which is why the audience which lives in the real world can't relate to it. For example, in Inception, Mal's death wouldve seemed a lot more tragic if we also lived in a world where we could share dreams, or in other words, if the story was relatable. The same with Interstellar with the father daughter angle. No one can relate to the pain of leaving your daughter for finding life beyond the black hole. I think that's a good thing, because it forces us to explore the vastness of the human mind and psychology under abnormal circumstances. I've always loved Nolan's films from a practical standpoint, I haven't really found his charactera to be stand out in any manner, but I feel that this is what makes us a part of the journey in the film rather than just watching the characters do things. It's like choosing your own character in a game rather than following a protagonist.
@contemplatestudios5950
@contemplatestudios5950 3 жыл бұрын
Mary Holly I absolutely agree with you, great remark
@anantambisht4895
@anantambisht4895 3 жыл бұрын
I partly agree with it , but like yiu said that jntertellar no one would relate yiu are wrong people who havent seen their kods for year do the fantastical nature or the wide scope of concept does not dwarf the emotion it means to potray because emotions are the same no matter in which situation you are . Take an example like an alien who has left his home and come to live in earth the story is based on aliens who are feelong bad for the alien who has left his home. We will still realte not because we are not aliens but because we can relate to the EMOTIONS not to the setting of the fantastical or sci fi .
@anantambisht4895
@anantambisht4895 3 жыл бұрын
In short what i mean is we humans have a tendency to identify emotions so yes we can relate to the emotions and feel them no matter in which sci fi or fantastical or parallel dimension the story is set in
@contemplatestudios5950
@contemplatestudios5950 3 жыл бұрын
@@anantambisht4895 you're definitely right there. But you can compare leaving your daughter to go fight in Afghanistan as a soldier vs leaving your daughter venturing out into deep space. I believe the former is something the audience can connect even more with because they know the consequences and what the soldiers have to go through, the fear, frustration etc. Hence, perhaps what should I said is that the audience won't be able to connect with it emotionally AS MUCH AS other scenarios rather than can't connect emotionally AT ALL.
@anantambisht4895
@anantambisht4895 3 жыл бұрын
@@contemplatestudios5950 yess i see but isnt that what nolan films do that we can feel the emotions through the actor's acting and screenplay right ? I mean look at it , all the emotions are conveyed throught the actor so if a actor is crying then we know okay how that must feel , i agree with what you sayjng tho , that it might be hard for audience to connect to the setting they are set in but i think emotions are universal . If someone is crykng we obviously know he is sad and adding to it the story also plays a buge part in it , the story makes us feel certain emotions in a way right . They have our mind directed into one emotions as we journey through it . But i see what yiu said that the fantastical nature of his films makes us feel more than what we think we would have felt
@halfalligator6518
@halfalligator6518 3 жыл бұрын
I'm no film critic but Dunkirk is by far my favourite Nolan film. I think this is because his writing skills are sub-par - especially for developing characters that make believable decisions. Since Dunkirk doesn't really have characters he doesn't lose any points for sloppy writing. Pretty simple really. It's more like a documentary. Nolan really needs to hire writers or else maybe bring novels to life - I'm sick of him trying to do everything himself. Oh yeah his early films were actually good (Prestige etc). Interstellar was awfully mawkish.
@area51pictures
@area51pictures 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. But the guy once wrote Memento with Jonah. Inarguably one of the greatest screenplays ever written (don't believe me. Believe the writer's guild) and especially for creating characters who make believable decisions based on flawed emotional truths. He shouldn't be let off the hook so easily when he's clearly smart enough to bring his A game like that.
@halfalligator6518
@halfalligator6518 2 жыл бұрын
@@area51pictures Nice comment. Yeah well it's a lot to ask of one person. I just prefer people delegate to the experts... even if you're a jack of all trades. It might be possible with a smaller film but the massive ones? Get some good writers on board. He can still give the the basic vision... but let them flesh it out & shine it up.
@nicolasbeaud8685
@nicolasbeaud8685 11 ай бұрын
I think Dunkirk was an original take on the war movie genre. And I cannot say i didnt like or got bored while watching it. It was fine. But no i would definitely say that the inaptitude of Nolan to write interesting characters (and well-written/clever dialogues) with some depth hurt the movies. Let just compared Private Ryan of Spielberg to Dunkirk and there is a world of difference. As a viewer, you actually understood their motivation and cared for what could happen to the soldiers because you could identify with their humanity unlike in Dunkirk where characters like chess board figurines. Nolan tried to make a war movie that is not human-scale (The prestige is the only movie he did that fulfill this criteria IMO) which is a mistake. ESPECIALLY in war movies, the storyline has to be about characters and be human scale. Spielberg understood that, Nolan did not.
@halfalligator6518
@halfalligator6518 11 ай бұрын
@@nicolasbeaud8685 That's kind of what I mean. I was trying to say that because characters/plot are his weak spot, that I prefer Dunkirk over the others because he approached it more like a documentary. I was not comparing it to Saving Private Ryan... which I agree is superior. I'm comparing it to Nolans other films which mostly annoyed me on some level (usually the characters). Think of it like this.... I take away points when reviewing movies and even though he got no bonus points for characters... I didn't take any away. I much prefer a cold films without any cheesy dumb shit, than a warm one where the cheesy dumb/mawkish shit completely just ruins it. That's just my own personality though where I allow what I consider "lame" things to ruin films more than the good things lift them. Ideally he would hire good writers and concentrate more on the direction, aesthetic and overall vision.
@zinj2618
@zinj2618 3 жыл бұрын
As a big fan of graphic design i insanely love your thumbnail
@BathedInMilk
@BathedInMilk 3 жыл бұрын
Cinema's going to change after 2020, specifically financing. Tenet will be his last über budget film for the foreseeable purely because of the recession that's going to hit. The studios are going to have to count their pennies from now on so I imagine Nolan won't be able to command the scale he recently has for that reason alone. This might mitigate this 'gigantism' or it might make his resolve stronger. Judging by his ill-advised insistence on a cinema release for Tenet and demands for the theatrical experience and for the format of Film in the past, I fear the latter is more likely.
@tatehildyard5332
@tatehildyard5332 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t really agree. If anything, given how much the film industry has monopolized and how the Big 5 are all in on the steaming game now, I think more money is just going to be put into even fewer productions and because of just how vertically integrated the viewing process is and how the international markets make it extremely difficult for a movie to not at least break even.
@ss2gora0
@ss2gora0 3 жыл бұрын
it's okay though, his best movie yet will be in 2030 so we're fine
@chaddafoe3105
@chaddafoe3105 3 жыл бұрын
I totally get where you're coming from and I share some of the thoughts as well, but Literally everything you mentioned about INTERSTELLAR is more about whether or not the approach to its dialog and characterization is your cup of tea. The speeches, the poems, the emotions dialed up to 11- consider the fact that it's HIS approach, HIS voice for this film and he is succeeding at achieving exactly what he's intending. Maybe THAT'S what he's bringing to the table and it's not your cup of tea. (What I'm saying applies to me as well for certain other films). I get the sentiment, and I do hope we see Nolan do something small at point as well, but gigantism isn't a problem for Nolan's case here. Even if in someone's opinion the character works or intimacy isn't as strong anymore, why does it have to mean that it's INHERENTLY because of his gigantic scopes?While someone like David Lean went after gigantic scope to tell stories that could've probably been told in smaller intimate scale, Nolan's wanting to make films about interstellar travel, dunkirk evacuation. He isn't necessarily going after scope, the stories he wants to tell REQUIRES scope. So us wanting him to shift towards small scale kinda means we're wanting to dictate the kind of stories he wants to tell. Kind of. Sure, if he continues down this path I'll probably start missing his smaller works like The Prestige or Memento and again, I certainly hope that we get that kinda stuff but, he's gonna make what he wants, in whatever scope he wants, that, to me, isn't inherently a problem.
@HAL-vm3wn
@HAL-vm3wn 3 жыл бұрын
"Doctor Zhivago (...) is more like a soap Opera." As if schmalziness was Bad!
@CGokce6
@CGokce6 3 жыл бұрын
very well said. It seems that TENET will have that scope too.
@GreenhornProductions
@GreenhornProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I've always wanted Nolan to direct a 007 film, but watching this, it would probably be another spectacle over substance film like TENET, and further in the wrong direction. Dammit. Instead, he should make his abandoned Howard Hughes film with Jim Carrey. That would be an amazing return to form.
@aldenburboilage9244
@aldenburboilage9244 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely stellar video, great editing and visuals as always
@spaperatoreassassino4994
@spaperatoreassassino4994 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. The thing I like about those kind of productions is that they make you know things you didn't heard anything about before. In this case I am talking about David Lean. After having seen this video I will certainly watch his movies. And I think that, at least for you who made the video, this is a grat success
@shawnshackelford9149
@shawnshackelford9149 3 жыл бұрын
I love the Dark Knight Rises
@michaelotis223
@michaelotis223 3 жыл бұрын
my fav in the trilogy. yeah, I said it!
@dplunk13
@dplunk13 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelotis223 Same. It's thematically great and to me the core of what makes Batman great.
@pcdm43145
@pcdm43145 3 жыл бұрын
@Shawn Shackelford, @Michael Otis, @ Chett Manley See, my take is completely different; I think of _Dark Knight Rises_ the same way I think of _Alien 3..._ Serviceable as farewells to a storyline, and well made movies with some exciting scenes, but with flaws that still bother me (le: waaaay to much exposition dialogue), even years after seeing them. If any of you are interested enough to take the time, I'm curious as to what puts _Dark Knight Rises_ at over the top, compared to the other two? All the best, my friends.
@shawnshackelford9149
@shawnshackelford9149 3 жыл бұрын
The theme of a man being able to ride above. Overcoming the darkness of his past. A normal man doing something amazing. Being a symbol of hope
@pcdm43145
@pcdm43145 3 жыл бұрын
@@shawnshackelford9149 Hmmm... That's not a bad way of looking at it, actually. Especially with the "ultimate sacrifice" aspect in the last film. Although, you could easily make the case that all three films told that very story, albeit with the stakes being raised in each installment. But what puts _Dark Knight Rises_ above the others, at least for you? Was it the story? The villain? The climactic battle? The plot twists? I know, for me, the three things I liked were (in no particular order): 1] Bane's origin story (better than it was in the comics) 2] Catwoman's character arc 3] Robin in the Batcave, carrying on the legacy All the best, my new friend.
@zakizaheer2946
@zakizaheer2946 3 жыл бұрын
TDKR and Interstellar were underwhelming for me when I watched them in theaters. Interstellar especially but honestly, I have grown to love it. The problem I think it has is that once we get to Mann's planet the entire film shifts from the undying spirit of mankind for progress, expansion to a look at the relationships we have with one another. And because it is so abrupt it seems very heavy-handed in how he wants to explore selfishness and love. Merph and Cooper's relationship was the initial thread to the love arc but even still it seemed like it was talking more about the sacrifices of progress and a love for mankind than specifically a love for Merph. Once I accept that Anne Hatheway is going to give that corny speech. I am totally ok with it. I think Interstellar would have been much better as a trilogy than one movie.
@thomaswilke6312
@thomaswilke6312 3 жыл бұрын
The two fortissimo chords accented by the timpani in the Beethoven Eroica symphony starting off this video is such a nice touch
@piyushmishra7791
@piyushmishra7791 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic narration and editing man. First video and i subscribed.
@KMHill
@KMHill 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your coming of age. You should be very proud of this leap in maturity. :) Lovely to see Lean's reaction. His ears are a marvel of biology. LOL The best part of Ryan's Daughter is the storm footage. Your videos are very excellent.
@nicholasloud7772
@nicholasloud7772 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't mention Inception much, which is bound to be the film TENET is most like
@nabil731
@nabil731 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully!
@anthonymartensen3164
@anthonymartensen3164 3 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking more Dark Knight meets Memento meets Inception
@tondeedelara6436
@tondeedelara6436 3 жыл бұрын
This an amazing video. Great editing and commentary. Wow. I hope i can edit like this someday.
@sinaRambo
@sinaRambo 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man! Just found your channel. LOVE your editing. Skill.
@professorm4171
@professorm4171 3 жыл бұрын
Spectacle is part of cinema. Nothing wrong with it.
@lejam0771
@lejam0771 3 жыл бұрын
professorM It is a balancing act though
@professorm4171
@professorm4171 3 жыл бұрын
@@lejam0771 It does usually if you want a Box Office hit but if I want to make an art film with nothing but grand scenes, that's valid too.
@jasonshaneyfelt1039
@jasonshaneyfelt1039 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with so much of this, but man, even Nolan's weakest films are still miles ahead of mostly everything else. As of right now, Tenet ranks on the lower end of Nolan films for me, but I never want to take for granted, especially in today's film industry, a director having the ability to create his own original vision on such a massive budget. Even when a Nolan film isn't great, it's still really good. I'm still thankful Tenet exists and I'm really thankful I got to finally go to the theater again this year and the first film I saw there was a new Nolan film.
@aarondcruz3443
@aarondcruz3443 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Dunkirk was a one of a kind movie... That... 1) I do not want to watch again and yet I always am readily want to talk about it 2) Enjoyed much more as a smaller screen rather than a theatrical one 3) was completely ok with the fact that I never understood the movie and just accepted it for what it is
@swellson8133
@swellson8133 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! And I love the change done to your logo! For me, if there’s one director I’m a fanboy of it would have to be PTA. Anytime people say they don’t like Inherent Vice I’m like, “You just don’t get it!” That film like almost any film that is talked about needs a second viewing to be truly appreciated. I would like to see PTA male genre films and bigger films. I know it’s against what he usually does, but he has potential to be the Goat of directing.
@tobi2731
@tobi2731 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with this argument is that Ryan's Daughter is actually Lean's second best film after Lawrence of Arabia. Most of the critics had bullshit arguments that hinged on their personal expectations instead of actual engagement with the film. Ryan's Daughter is a blow-up off a young girls passions and place in the world and there's no film like it. The story is still quite concise (unlike Zhivago or even some of his early films), it's just the images that are large, yet as a landscape of the soul they are perfect. I'll also add that Ryan's Daughter is actually a rather acclaimed film. It made TSPDTs top 1000 films last year I believe, along with just 5 others of Lean's films.
@JakeHGuy
@JakeHGuy 3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with everything in this video. And that's rare. And after watching Tenet this is so much more interesting.
@usualavantgasp
@usualavantgasp 3 жыл бұрын
...the editing ...the style ...the CONFESSION * chef's kiss *
@kafka5795
@kafka5795 3 жыл бұрын
Man the production quality, has gone off the roof on this channel in the last week. Keep it up man!
@abrahamcb
@abrahamcb 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like ‘Insomnia’ is his most underrated/misunderstood film
@jokester18business51
@jokester18business51 3 жыл бұрын
That’s my least favorite. It’s a bit plane jane. If someone showed me that movie and said “guess who directed this?” I would’ve never guessed Nolan.
@shlack999
@shlack999 3 жыл бұрын
True that and memento are honestly my favorite Nolan films but not really a fam of his later films
@Thespeedrap
@Thespeedrap 3 жыл бұрын
Al Pacino Insomnia is a great movie It should be higher on the list than Dark Knight Trilogy.
@trinktmalnent7744
@trinktmalnent7744 3 жыл бұрын
@@jokester18business51 I share your opinion. I guess it's because Nolan hasn't written the script.
@jokester18business51
@jokester18business51 3 жыл бұрын
Marcel Zachary I wouldn’t say that. His performance was okay. Not a bad movie. I just think it would be forgettable if an unnamed director made it
@wuoma
@wuoma 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely interested to hear your view on Tenet when you see it. I subscribe almost entirely to your opinion on Nolan in this video and I saw Tenet last week as I live in a region where it was released. I won't comment anything about it, but am curious to hear your take.
@Asfaril
@Asfaril 3 жыл бұрын
came here to say the same thing. Hoping an upvote and comment will make this bubble up and be seen. (also seen Tenet and agree with the opinions in this video)
@kim1570
@kim1570 3 жыл бұрын
After watching Tenet, I completely agree with this video. The movie was a lot of style and very little substance.
@jv.xavier7434
@jv.xavier7434 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great beautifully done video! And gotta say that, when younger, Nolan was in my top 5 filmakers, but with time and study (in cinema) It changed, even tho i can't deny how amazing he is. I think his best charachteristic by now is learning with mistakes, if "Interstellar" had so many dialogues, in "Dunkirk" he fixes it making what i think to be his true masterpiece along with TDK (at least until TENET)
@CenterRow
@CenterRow 3 жыл бұрын
As a fellow Nolan fanboy, I truly appreciated this video. Also, the way you edit these videos is always so creative and energetic. It motivates me to do better with my own videos, so thanks!
@dan-mb2ne
@dan-mb2ne 3 жыл бұрын
Oh hey It's nice seeing you here
@JokerTheDank
@JokerTheDank 3 жыл бұрын
Well, Tenet's spectacle is there, to say the least
@Lukestar46
@Lukestar46 3 жыл бұрын
While interstellar is my favorite movie ever I can't help but thinking about this argument watching the final trailer for tenet... I really hope it's a good movie and he uses spectacle to serve the story just as he did with all his movies so far with the exception of the dark Knight rises. Otherwise it would really hurt as a Nolan fanboy
@walterroux291
@walterroux291 3 жыл бұрын
I was watching the first half thinking "but what about Dunkirk" until you took the words from my head.
@googleleavemynamealone9145
@googleleavemynamealone9145 3 жыл бұрын
LOVE this type of style in your video! Also if anyone is curious there is NOTHING about Tennent in here other than being mentioned once.
@dariomendoza9136
@dariomendoza9136 3 жыл бұрын
The Cafe is not in France, is in Florence. Those " plot convinience" well every movie has those. You wont have fun if you analyse everything about the plots.
@LewisCooley
@LewisCooley 3 жыл бұрын
True, but The Dark Knight Rises is riddled with flaws to the point where they outweigh the films redeeming qualities, and that is coming from an ex Nolan fanatic who owned a t shirt that said "In Nolan We Trust" during high school right before the film came out- cringe af, I know. It tried too hard to be epic and in doing so it felt overstuffed, unnecessarily convoluted , and frankly boring despite all its spectacle; The Return of the Jedi effect. I'm glad my man enjoyed Dunkirk, I thought it was amazing and think it will age far better than a lot of his other works.
@spencermalley10
@spencermalley10 3 жыл бұрын
@@LewisCooley What exactly is so "convoluted" about it honestly? TDKR is a pretty straight forward movie all things considered. Being the "Return of the Jedi" of a film series is not a bad reputation to have either.
@LewisCooley
@LewisCooley 3 жыл бұрын
@@spencermalley10 I would say The Return of The Jedi is most often the least liked of the OG trilogy for the same reasons listed above but that is personal preference, not a bad movie at all but its an example of the same issues that stands out. Maybe Spiderman 3 would be a more apt example. TDKR has far too many plot elements most of which have quite a flew plot holes. It has been some years since I have seen it but off the top of my head: Between Bruce coming back, Banes backstory, the cop becoming robin -which makes no sense but that is besides the point- talia being Razs daughter, Scarecrow being a judge, Batman "dying" but Bruce somehow living which as pointed out makes no sense given his mega fame which is also an issue when the final scene of your epic trilogy is mind bendingly dumb, Gordon being in the hospital, Catwomen being introduced simply to have a generic love interest despite also having talia, Gotham being shut down, generic ticking clock element of the nuke, and trying to tie up the stories up Bruces backup squad such as Alfred and Morgan Freeman the movie becomes quite the mouthful and not a very satisfying one. There are too many elements introduces and they are not given enough time or room in such a packed film to fully bake. I don't think this is a very controversial opinion and seemed to be the consensus when it was released, feel free to like it though, I wouldn't say its a bad film at all, probably a B- for me but maybe a C+, and there are definitely fun moments to be had but it is a far cry from being close to The Dark Knight or even Batman Begins imo.
@spencermalley10
@spencermalley10 3 жыл бұрын
​@@LewisCooley I'm sorry but TDKR is nowhere close to being a Spider-Man 3. It may have a lot of plot points certainly but at it's core, It's a story about Bruce Wayne rediscovering his will to live while turning Batman into something that's bigger than just himself. All the elements in Rises are in service to the emotional core that is Bruce's journey and that element is executed absolutely perfectly (I've said this before on Bruce being "famous", He's really not outside of Gotham, Falcone said he'd have to walk a thousand miles to find someone who didn't know him and where he is at the end of Rises is that distance and then some) also how is Catwoman any more a "generic love interest" than Rachel was? I feel a lot of the hate towards it and the opinion that it's "not even close" to the other two has less to do with it being "packed" or with the "flaws" you've mentioned and more to do with it diverging from the "post TDK" blueprint a lot of fans had composed in their heads (Batman still actively fighting crime as a fugitive vigilante, the villain being the Riddler, the ending being Bruce resigning himself to protecting Gotham as Batman until the day he dies) If a film followed that outline or something similar but had similar leaps in logic to Rises, they would not be made as big a deal of. I'd say when simply judged as a movie, Rises is more of an A (maybe A-), C+ is something I'd reserve for something like Thor the Dark World or Captain Marvel. If Return of the Jedi or Age of Ultron can be looked upon as worthy sequels to what came before in their franchises in spite of their flaws than the same should absolutely apply to Rises.
@LewisCooley
@LewisCooley 3 жыл бұрын
My critique is not that it diverged from some hypothetical blueprint I had as a teenager when I watched it, I just wanted something to end the franchise that was as good as the previous films and TDKR was not. It introduced far too many new unnecessary elements and had to rush to finish them all within a reasonable time span leaving a lot of it feeling pretty underdeveloped. You'll have to excuse me as I don't see this going anywhere and I don't much want to engage in the deep irony that is arguing the merits of a Batman film with someone who has a Batman profile picture on a video talking about getting over ones own fanboysim. Best of luck defending this and future Batman films and have a great day!
@notimeforyoutubelol
@notimeforyoutubelol 3 жыл бұрын
Nolan:prefers practical effects over vfx but used a lot of vfx in inception and prestige. Fanbois: *you know Nolan hates cgi and vfx. He never liked it. I know because I have seen all his film. Thats why I hate other directors, they use lots of cgi. Nolan is the holy god. One in billion.*
@francescomanzo3939
@francescomanzo3939 3 жыл бұрын
BLASPHEMOUS!!!!! (not referred to opinions)
@putt7515
@putt7515 3 жыл бұрын
TENET was a good movie but there was problems with sound/dialogue and there was so MUCH more things he could have shown with such a good concept, like inverted rain.
@alexalexis7899
@alexalexis7899 3 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, were you in for a treat with Tenet. I admire Nolan a lot - maybe more so for his ambitions than for what the films turn out to be. However, I think the main issue I have with his work stems from him being much more interested in explaining, in making grand cinematic schematics, than in telling a story. I agree with you that his most complete and cohesive film to date is The Prestige - and it is not a coincidence that it’s an adaptation of a novel. Nolan’s sense of drama and momentum (unlike his sense of scale and spectacle) still needs some adjusting and perhaps more importantly, his ability to write dialogues still has a long, long, long way to go, despite him being at the top of the food chain. However, the film that, for me, cemented him as a remarkable contemporary director was Dunkirk. That is Nolan at the peak of his ability, while attempting to do something totally new for him, without his usual clutches. The film works spectacularly well without central characters because, one, we are not really following characters, we are following situations; two, there’s no need for dialogue to understand and follow what is happening; three, the momentum is automatically implicit within what’s being depicted. After watching Tenet twice, I also hope, like you do, that he focuses his attention on something much smaller next. There are phenomenal novels around awaiting for him, no doubt.
@NachoRockatanskyT
@NachoRockatanskyT 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be heartbroken to see any Nolan film being trashed like that :(
@lejam0771
@lejam0771 3 жыл бұрын
Nacho Rockatansky you never know, it could be the best thing to happen to him, a lot of greatness can occur after failure. Also, TDKR was trashed a lot (and probably deserved)
@stevesilverstone4385
@stevesilverstone4385 3 жыл бұрын
@@lejam0771 TDKR wasn't a bad project and it's Nolan worst work. It received a lot of love because it was a good okayesh film in general. I don't think you understand, Ryan's Daughter was crucified. Nolan has yet to make a bad movie, and I hope that never happens.
@epilol9310
@epilol9310 3 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion: I didn't like Dunkirk because it is narratively flat. Like the score, it just builds, and there is no climax (not to say the score is bad). That said, I enjoyed it more once I thought it embodied the theme of chaos, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
@torressr3
@torressr3 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly this describes best how I feel about that movie more than any critic did.
@tenylegnincsevem
@tenylegnincsevem 3 жыл бұрын
no climax because it's about a retreat, no heroics, they can only wind down from 11 when they are home on the train.
@epilol9310
@epilol9310 3 жыл бұрын
@@tenylegnincsevem I get that, but it makes the retreat less tense as you can't compare the different levels of danger. You could say it's all at 11 but by the time the oil in the water was burning and I was supposed to care, I didn't.
@iansmart4158
@iansmart4158 3 жыл бұрын
The climax is that Churchill speech. And it HONKS!!!! So powerful.
@epilol9310
@epilol9310 3 жыл бұрын
@@iansmart4158 I'm sorry, I just thought that was generic. It's a cinematic/ theatric cliche to include that speech and it couldn't carry the weight of the film.
@saigade1236
@saigade1236 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's a good thing that Christopher Nolan is making a biopic because maybe he can focus more on character that way and let go of all the gigantism and return to his roots like Memento
@markparkinson6947
@markparkinson6947 3 жыл бұрын
I think what you meant to say when talking about Nolan’s direction and writing of Dunkirk is that it’s more sociological than psychological.
@xxraptorxx8180
@xxraptorxx8180 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed tenet for it spectacle but it threw character and plot out of the window for no reason with Dunkirk I can understand why they didn’t focus on character because he was saying that no character mattered in this event we didn’t need to see the girl and baby back at home sort of war movie it is just telling the story through many POVs. Tenet has amazing action set pieces and music but I couldn’t hear dialogue very well when that huge score was going. At first, I didn’t understand how things happened but when I got home I thought about it more and I understood it and liked it more. Not everyone likes that I get it and although tenet technically is his worst movie it’s a great experience in cinemas.
@RekzaFS
@RekzaFS 3 жыл бұрын
Watched Tenet the other day and I have to admit I think it suffers greatly from "gigantism".
@EmlynBoyle
@EmlynBoyle 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree after seeing Tenet -- an ambitious, but ultimately confusing mess. All spectacle (and very 'and?' spectacle) and just no soul whatsoever. I also found the plot holes in TDKR ridiculous...almost as if Nolan thought the set pieces would make folk not notice them. Superman quickly recovering from a spinal injury i can get, but Batman? Just a mortal man at the end of the day. And especially when it's set in a world where Batman is meant to be as plausible and realistic as possible. I hope CN goes back to more character based stuff with (truly) amazing set pieces, plot and heart inbetween. Like Inception, The Prestige, the first two Batmans, Memento and Insomnia. Dunkirk and Interstellar were a lot of spectacle too, but at least had a human element in there. And this is coming from a huge CN fan, if not a worshipping fanboy. Great video.
@Cybjon
@Cybjon 3 жыл бұрын
I actually kind of love Ryan's Daughter. All the sweeping landscapes seem appropriate to the romantic aspects of the film; Rose is a character who craves romance, marries her former school teacher because she conflates him with all the stories he used to tell her, but he can't live up to her expectations, then has a torrid affair with a soldier with PTSD who she projects heroism onto despite the fact that war has completely destroyed him, so I think Lean was showing us the world as she sees it, and emphasises the fact that she lives in this beautiful environment that fuels romantic fantasises. I'm even forgiving of its length, despite the lack of stakes (the Irish Rebel B-plot could have done with being fleshed out a little), because it makes the whole experience immersive. it's not a great film, but it is, at least, a good one.
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