the bizarre world of fan edits and restorations

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The Royal Ocean Film Society

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3 жыл бұрын

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Sources / Further Reading:
FanEdit.org - ifdb.fanedit.org/
Hollywood: The People's Cut by Peter Rojas - bit.ly/3gsXZLC
Article about The Phantom Edit - bit.ly/3gtnYTb
Changing Cain: De Palma's Cult Classic Restored - bit.ly/3v9XH0l
Interview with Garrett Gilchrest on the Recobbled Cut - bit.ly/3tG8UFD
Bryan Konietzko's quote - bit.ly/2PgekIw
Music:
Mendelssohn - Symphony No. 4 in A Major
Mendelssohn - Symphony No. 3 in A Minor
Schubert - Piano Sonata No. 13 in A Major
Artificial.Music - Nighttime Stroll - / artificial-music
Dvorak - String Quartet No. 12
Chris Zabriskie - Virtues Inherited, Vices Passed On - chriszabriskie.com/
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@ReaperCH90
@ReaperCH90 3 жыл бұрын
What I think is happening, is that the "modding scene" entered the movie community
@SirBlackReeds
@SirBlackReeds 3 жыл бұрын
Basically.
@johannhowitzer
@johannhowitzer Жыл бұрын
Yeah, these are essentially "movie romhacks." If they can do it with Super Mario World, why not the Super Mario Bros. film?
@FinnbarrGoesFast
@FinnbarrGoesFast Жыл бұрын
@@johannhowitzer You know what this means. Chris Prat be gone
@trollerjakthetrollinggod-e7761
@trollerjakthetrollinggod-e7761 Жыл бұрын
@@johannhowitzer they have, actually. It's not bad either.
@woobgamer5210
@woobgamer5210 Жыл бұрын
@@FinnbarrGoesFast i legit cant wait for someone to make a fan edit but Mario and Luigi sound like Mario and Luigi
@bigbrothertiger4370
@bigbrothertiger4370 3 жыл бұрын
"DO NOT WANT!!!!" such a powerful moment of genius
@MadHatter42
@MadHatter42 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it's only marginally less silly than "NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!"
@Warstub
@Warstub 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck that cracked me up!!
@MrPekmano
@MrPekmano 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, let me put some perspectives into this...In Chinese, the English word "No" can be simply translated as "不 (bu)“, but you can add a little flair to it and translate it as "不要 (bu-yao)" to make the phrase sound direr. The added word "要" does not mean much in this case (kinda like the word 'jose' in 'no way jose'), but it can be translated to "want" if it's used in other scenarios. So long story short, the Chinese-English translator diligently matched up every word from Chinese to English, hence the birth of "Do not want" instead of "Nooooooo".
@kaicanyonellis
@kaicanyonellis 3 жыл бұрын
Read this comment before it happened in the video. That was amazing 😂
@friele80
@friele80 3 жыл бұрын
I much came for this!!
@qurn
@qurn Жыл бұрын
There's an edit that changes Jarjars language to an alien one and gives him subtitles. Oh and also changes his character to being a sarcastic jerk, and it works really, really well.
@protips__
@protips__ Жыл бұрын
Those are the anti-Cheese edits. They also replace the “Engrish” of the Nemodians with what I assume are Ithorian speech from KOTOR. Not a phenomenal edit but taking away the poorly aged stuff like all the Meesa is a great addition that would do well in conjunction with other Prequel re-edits.
@InventorZahran
@InventorZahran Жыл бұрын
@@protips__ The anti-cheese edit of Revenge of the Sith also removed Darth Vader's overdramatic "NOOOOO!"
@Klabbity_Kloots
@Klabbity_Kloots Жыл бұрын
@@InventorZahran The first two guys had me, then you lost me.
@CaptainNomae
@CaptainNomae Жыл бұрын
​@@Klabbity_Kloots I think he's referring to the Backstroke of the West version but I don't know.
@Klabbity_Kloots
@Klabbity_Kloots Жыл бұрын
@@CaptainNomae I meant as in eagerness, not comprehension.
@haj_endot
@haj_endot 3 жыл бұрын
There's a version of Metropolis on pirate sites that's basically comprised of the highest-quality sources for video and audio, so basically someone Frankensteined their own favorite version and it's dope as hell.
@pacman5698
@pacman5698 2 жыл бұрын
Praying somebody discovers those last few minutes one day.
@zerospacer
@zerospacer Жыл бұрын
@@pacman5698 Crazy, this reminds me that years ago I started a fanedit that would slow the film down to "human" speed w/ original soundtrack. Did anyone ever make a version like that?
@Twitch380
@Twitch380 Жыл бұрын
So it cuts 80% of the movie? And it's dumb way to long scenes? Sign me up.
@anthonybernacchi2732
@anthonybernacchi2732 Жыл бұрын
As of four days ago, some fan edits of that movie would be legal in the United States, although not in Germany.
@odiwalker3973
@odiwalker3973 3 жыл бұрын
"Famously, cut Jar Jar Binks outta of the movie, only not really. For some reason that was the narrative that the press ran with it" His thumbnail: Jar Jar Doesnt Exist Anymore.
@FionaFacciona
@FionaFacciona 3 жыл бұрын
You are right! The video is good, interesting and well made; but why oh why does he needed to do that cheap clickbait on the thumbnail?😤
@AlexKivikoski
@AlexKivikoski 3 жыл бұрын
Came here for Jar Jar not existing anymore. Turned out Jar Jar still existed. I am not angry, just dissapointed.
@MateusAntonioBittencourt
@MateusAntonioBittencourt 3 жыл бұрын
I almost didn't watch this video, because of that thumbnail. I don't care about Jar Jar. But luckily I read the title and I was something I'm very interested in.
@csesznaktom
@csesznaktom 3 жыл бұрын
@@FionaFacciona I hate this tumbnails, but I wanted to see, what this jar-jar not exists thing, with that title. I saw the thumbnail first, I read the title second, and I'm not disapointed.
@GothamClive
@GothamClive 3 жыл бұрын
Look for the Anti-Cheese Edit you must. No JarJar, or talk about love or taxes it contains.
@Shiyulerche
@Shiyulerche 3 жыл бұрын
In the 1980s: "In 20 years we will have flying cars!" In the 2020s: "In 20 years we will have The Phantom Menace without Jarjar!"
@PEDROGARCIA-qj3gr
@PEDROGARCIA-qj3gr 3 жыл бұрын
When flying cars are a bad idea in every single aspect possible...
@squirlmy
@squirlmy 3 жыл бұрын
​@@PEDROGARCIA-qj3grWhoosh! That didn't stop the popular media from promising it. The fact that flying cars is wildly impossible is part of the point here. Get it?
@squirlmy
@squirlmy 3 жыл бұрын
1980s: we'll have androids! 2020s : we have Android smartphones!
@jeremysmith9291
@jeremysmith9291 3 жыл бұрын
Colin Furze made a flying well more like a motorcycle than a car I think a company picked up the concept and was entertaining mass production but I haven't heard anything about it in awhile.
@boarpsimson8675
@boarpsimson8675 2 жыл бұрын
@@squirlmy I've never seen someone be passive-aggressive and also talk like they have the mental age of a 6 year old, props
@ahmedjaber86
@ahmedjaber86 Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you covered Backstroke of the West! That's my favorite way to watch Episode III. DO NOT WAAAANT!
@RhmnLego
@RhmnLego Жыл бұрын
Going full cock is part of my vocabulary after watching that film
@dylangreen192
@dylangreen192 Жыл бұрын
Better to death them!
@ket451
@ket451 Жыл бұрын
I'm pulling an all nighter, so definitely going to watch through the entire thing It's gonna hurt to laugh that much.
@LukeAps
@LukeAps Жыл бұрын
Kenobi: A Star Wars story, is an insanely good fan edit of the Kenobi series that absolutely made it into the movie it was meant to be.
@cybernet343
@cybernet343 Жыл бұрын
I've googled it and its shown as a 2019 fan short movie.
@hisokamorow6709
@hisokamorow6709 Жыл бұрын
@@cybernet343 slap "fan edit" and u gonna see more...
@unhelpfulrevelations7989
@unhelpfulrevelations7989 Жыл бұрын
I've heard a little bit about and it peaked my curiosity. Have anything to say about it? I kinda want to check it out
@MrVvulf
@MrVvulf Жыл бұрын
@@unhelpfulrevelations7989 *piqued FTFY
@Malachi_Risinger
@Malachi_Risinger Жыл бұрын
Look up Pixeljoker Kenobi edit. It's gonna be the best version of Kenobi out there. I can feel it.
@libRteedude
@libRteedude 3 жыл бұрын
The "Planet of the Apes: Twilight Zone Episode" reedit actually makes a lot of sense, considering Rod Serling did the initial draft of the Planet of the Apes script.
@nonameronin1
@nonameronin1 3 жыл бұрын
And if IIRC Serling came up with the twist ending that's in the film. "It was Earth all along" is pure Twilight Zone.
@DeadYorick
@DeadYorick 3 жыл бұрын
That's not all, Planet of the Apes bears a lot of similarity with various Twilight Zone episodes. There's an episode of the Twilight Zone for instance where astronauts crash on desert like planet and there's a twist ending at the end that reveals it to be Earth. The film's meta commentary that the reason why the apes took over is due to nuclear holocaust in the distant past is also very in keeping with the Twilight Zone's social commentary. There are also several actors that were in Planet of the Apes that were in the Twilight Zone. A really good example is the actor who played Cornelius, Roddy McDowall, was the star of "People are alike all over".
@bingerz237
@bingerz237 3 жыл бұрын
There's also the music connection by way of the soundtrack composer for Planet of the Apes, Jerry Goldsmith, who scored multiple episodes of The Twilight Zone, as well as Twilight Zone: The Movie.
@0311Mushroom
@0311Mushroom 3 жыл бұрын
@@nonameronin1 nope, that was in the original book. In fact, the book ends much like the Burton movie. Escapes from the apes, returns to Earth, apes beat him there. Sterling basically compressed it for budget reasons.
@nonameronin1
@nonameronin1 3 жыл бұрын
@@0311Mushroom not sure I see your point. The book and Burton's movie end with the main character returning to earth only to find it too has become a planet of apes. That's different from the reveal of the original movie being the planet of apes where the story takes place actually being our earth. The book's ending is "Our Earth will evolve in the same way as that alien world" the original movie's ending is "It was Earth all along". Similar, but not the same. Serling added his own twist.
@mooninc.185
@mooninc.185 3 жыл бұрын
as a teenager I made an edit Batman Mask of the Phantasm in black and white using different colour filters and colour grading to turn it into a noir painting and the best part is that I showed it to someone who had never seen the original version. so in their head that movie is in black and white!
@LordJagd
@LordJagd 3 жыл бұрын
That's the really fun thing to do. I have some edits that were the first time anyone's seen a film.
@THE.N1KO
@THE.N1KO 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to watch it.
@THE.N1KO
@THE.N1KO 3 жыл бұрын
@@LordJagd And I want to see those if it's possible.
@LanceThumping
@LanceThumping 3 жыл бұрын
You've invoked one of the rules of the internet and that's providing sauce. You need to make sure that thing gets posted.
@mphylo2296
@mphylo2296 3 жыл бұрын
Now you have to share it with the world
@markusbrownicus01
@markusbrownicus01 Жыл бұрын
Just to point out an added touch of depth to this video. The music ROFS used when he started talking about the Thief and the Cobbler is Scheherazade by Nikolas Rimsky-Korsakov. It’s a symphony about a woman who must tell a Vizier a new story every night to keep him from beheading her. It’s where we get Arabian Nights or 1001 Nights from. So kudos on ROFS for being knowledgeable about classical music to add this background track into a segment about a Middle Eastern story, even if most watchers don’t pick up on it.
@meta0269
@meta0269 Жыл бұрын
I always saw Anakin's oops and accidents as him using the force unconsciously, which is why the jedi noticed him as having great potential but also dangerous.
@gamster96
@gamster96 3 жыл бұрын
OMG!!! I created the No Manson Family Edition of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood! I just freaked THE F OUT when you mentioned it!! Thank you so much for the mention! Your videos are fantastic.
@unclebill977
@unclebill977 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously? What was your intentions tho? Actually curious.
@ethansloan
@ethansloan 3 жыл бұрын
Please tell me more about your edit. What was the intention? How does it end? Do you still include Sharon Tate?
@filmnobelpreis
@filmnobelpreis 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a cool movie tbf
@gamster96
@gamster96 3 жыл бұрын
​@@ethansloan Here is a link to the info page. That should tell you everyting you need to know. Yes it does include Sharon Tate. How it ends I'd rather not spoil. XD ifdb.fanedit.org/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-the-no-manson-family-edition/
@marcusdeakin8110
@marcusdeakin8110 3 жыл бұрын
@@gamster96 anywhere we can watch it?
@cashdavenport6822
@cashdavenport6822 3 жыл бұрын
I’m pushing for a cut that increases the amount of screen time jar jar has
@loganwarner176
@loganwarner176 3 жыл бұрын
the film is so boring as it is that jar jar at least gives me something good to laugh at
@JustChadC
@JustChadC 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhahaha! Dude... he’s a Sith Lord
@russianboss0378
@russianboss0378 3 жыл бұрын
Deep fake every character with jar jars face
@stephenlindenfelser7983
@stephenlindenfelser7983 3 жыл бұрын
I want to see a cut of episode II and III where Jar Jar is the Sith Lord in disguise and is running the whole Galaxy instead of Palpatine. And, maybe, make Anakin less whiney
@deshrektives
@deshrektives 3 жыл бұрын
@Stephen Lindenfelser Check out Caleb Gamman's cut of II then. He's got you covered on the less whiney Anakin request.
@alanbrito5239
@alanbrito5239 Жыл бұрын
I'll never forget the "no action" edition from the 1st matrix movie lmao that was weird epic
@candlestorms
@candlestorms Жыл бұрын
I've been trying to find it, do you know its title or where it might be?
@croutendo2050
@croutendo2050 Жыл бұрын
I'm also curious
@6ch6ris6
@6ch6ris6 Жыл бұрын
what??? that movie is perfect. what are people smoking?
@croutendo2050
@croutendo2050 Жыл бұрын
@@6ch6ris6 haha my theory is that us younger folk don't like it because the same ideas have been done better since then. I won't deny it's "revolution"ary though
@6ch6ris6
@6ch6ris6 Жыл бұрын
@@croutendo2050 ??? Which film has it done better? You mean the cgi or action scenes in general?
@MausBastion
@MausBastion Жыл бұрын
There are even regional fan edits too. In Spain, a spoof re-dubbing for the whole LOTR trilogy was made in which the whole story took place in Galicia, a northern region of Spain. Its local jokes and characteristic accents were so hilarious and the effort of changing all lines from the movies was so astounding that it became an early internet sensation back in the day.
@CrazyKraut20
@CrazyKraut20 3 жыл бұрын
I Love how at 20:00 he talks about being able to remove jarjar from the phantom menace in the future with the same hopeful optimism one would use when talking about the prospect of finding a future cure for cancer
@thetwopointslow
@thetwopointslow 3 жыл бұрын
Well it would be a monumental accomplishment and a priceless service to all the galaxy
@officialmonarchmusic
@officialmonarchmusic Жыл бұрын
@@thetwopointslow not to me
@CordeliaWagner
@CordeliaWagner Жыл бұрын
Jar Jar IS like cancer.
@officialmonarchmusic
@officialmonarchmusic Жыл бұрын
@@CordeliaWagner I literally just rewatched TPM today and Jar Jar, wan't that bad. I honestly consider the hate for him ridiculous.
@orlandofurioso7329
@orlandofurioso7329 Жыл бұрын
@@CordeliaWagner i don't know, never saw anyone pissing blood because of Jar Jar, if you had that reaction check your doctor please
@Krisselvlogs
@Krisselvlogs 3 жыл бұрын
I made a feature film that took me over two years to make. We had an opportunity to show it in the biggest screen in the biggest cinema where I live. It was hyped in the news and in a local radiostation. We showed it and... It wasn't great. It was pretty bad. I had disappointed everyone that took part in making it, everyone that supported it and everyone that came to the screening. That was three years ago. I've been to film school since and made countless projects since. But it's been stuck in my head ever since. This video gave me a boost to get up and start working on it again and to make it the way I wanted.
@Viperzka
@Viperzka 3 жыл бұрын
Never give up on your dreams. Rebuilding that old movie would probably be a great way to cement the new knowledge and skills you've gained without needing to rehash the stuff you did right originally.
@THE.N1KO
@THE.N1KO 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched the release cut. But I really want to watch your original version.
@Krisselvlogs
@Krisselvlogs 3 жыл бұрын
Nicolas Gonzalez Jorquera It actually hasn't been released yet. The theatre that I premiered at had the option of showing it afterwards but didn't. I planned on releasing it online but I've been hesitant. If I'm gonna show everyone, it should be done right.
@Krisselvlogs
@Krisselvlogs 3 жыл бұрын
Slash and Trash Thank you for the encouragement. I'll make sure to show you guys when it's finished. Have you considered finishing your film or is that out the window?
@MarcusAtomics
@MarcusAtomics 3 жыл бұрын
go for it man, I hope too see it soon.
@rhettorical
@rhettorical Жыл бұрын
I think the most important thing to realize about fan edits is that they come from a place of true love and devotion to the project being edited. Even if the edit is born out of dissatisfaction, the fact that someone bothered to take the time out of their life, completely free of charge, to edit together something they see as an improvement, is proof that there's love there. I'm angry about Rise of Skywalker but I don't love it enough to edit together something better. Hollywood doesn't realize that. When a project is created out of passion and dedication, something special happens.
@theyshouldhavenevergivenme5439
@theyshouldhavenevergivenme5439 Жыл бұрын
a small percentage of them. If you have really delved deep into it youMll see about 90% is crap and 8% is 'commendable' and 2% can be considered an actual improvement in the original. awareness
@lxjoe96
@lxjoe96 Жыл бұрын
wrong? I hate rum but I love rum and coke. People absolutely can change something they hate into something they love, and changing something doesn't even remotely prove that you love it. stop spewing pseudo - psychological bullshit
@peepawfart
@peepawfart Жыл бұрын
@@lxjoe96 oh please. Hatred itself stems from love. Thats a fact. The opposite of love is indifference, hatred is nothing more than another side of the same scale. People spend their time editing movies they hate into something they love because, chances are, there are aspects to what they saw that they DID enjoy. Otherwise they would have never bothered. People hate bad movies because they love good ones.
@imveryangryitsnotbutter
@imveryangryitsnotbutter Жыл бұрын
@@lxjoe96 If you truly hated rum, you would just drink straight Coke. But you clearly found enough appeal in rum that you decided to mix the two together.
@thechugg4372
@thechugg4372 Жыл бұрын
Although I would say it's love, it's a really twisted egoistical love, thinking you know what makes a film better by your own standards is a really weird form of love.
@CrazyCarnieCory
@CrazyCarnieCory Жыл бұрын
About 4 mins in when you start to make that comparison between JarJar and Anikin, How they both kept making accidents to become victorious. I think that really lends credit to the "Dark JarJar" theory. I can't believe I never picked up on the parallel before until you pointed it out!
@theessentials450
@theessentials450 Жыл бұрын
NO such thing.
@ArloMathis
@ArloMathis 11 ай бұрын
@@theessentials450 No such thing as what? The theory exists, as does the mentioned parallel.
@CaptainSpalding72
@CaptainSpalding72 11 ай бұрын
@@ArloMathis Never existed. NOT from Lucas. Unless it's from George's own mouth, it's still neckbeard wankery. Thankfully, because it's stupid and terrible.
@BingFox
@BingFox 3 жыл бұрын
As an animator, I'm so glad you mentioned the Recobbled cut!
@bennykopilevic7510
@bennykopilevic7510 3 жыл бұрын
Seen your animations, cringed as soon as I saw you're a furry.
@Inazarab
@Inazarab 3 жыл бұрын
@@bennykopilevic7510 What's the need? If you've got nothing nice to say then don't say it.
@JustChadC
@JustChadC 3 жыл бұрын
yesssYESSSSSSS!
@JanneSala
@JanneSala 3 жыл бұрын
I was having lunch with an animator that worked on the original Thief and the Cobbler with Williams, and as soon as I asked if he knew about the movie, he made theatrical gestures of storming out of the room, crying for his mother. It was hilarious! That project really has a reputation of tragic proportions for everyone who was involved. The recobbled cut is like a holy grail in that regard.
@harrylane4
@harrylane4 3 жыл бұрын
@@bennykopilevic7510 yikes, grow up, you sound like a 12 year old
@thomasmerzlak6001
@thomasmerzlak6001 3 жыл бұрын
The one I’d most like to see is the full 4 hours of David Lynch’s Fire Walk With Me.
@NostalgiNorden
@NostalgiNorden 3 жыл бұрын
All the material is on the latest blu ray. And all the things that people wanted to see where things they got ten folds of in season 3.
@extremeanimationstudios1118
@extremeanimationstudios1118 3 жыл бұрын
@@NostalgiNordenI believe deleted stuff is on the blue ray, but it’s not cut into the actual movie
@hook259
@hook259 3 жыл бұрын
Search for Q2's fanedit of the film which runs at 3 hrs 30
@AMGK
@AMGK 3 жыл бұрын
OhhhhhI want that
@UltimateLegoFan324
@UltimateLegoFan324 3 жыл бұрын
I have that saved on my computer
@EstebanGunn
@EstebanGunn Жыл бұрын
I made my own fan edit of "Sucker Punch" one time. I cleaned up a lot of unnecessary plot baggage and streamlined the experience. Maybe 1/4 of the movie was cut. My cut had the movie end when the girl got lobotomized. It was sadder, but it made the movie live up to it's name.
@nutbastard
@nutbastard Жыл бұрын
Ah, so you gave it the "Brazil" treatment (theatrical cut vs Gilliam's cut)
@sophietessier8998
@sophietessier8998 Жыл бұрын
Give the link you coward, 😏
@Trillyana
@Trillyana Жыл бұрын
It may not have been a good movie but I still thought it was visually amazing
@joseangelhernandez5274
@joseangelhernandez5274 Жыл бұрын
There used to be a really cool edit of the prequals on youtube called the anti-cheese edit. Among the edits and cuts they made they didn't completely remove jar jar instead they cut out any cheesy jar jar scenes and gave him a complete alien speaking language and so subtitles were needed and they surprisingly made him sound intelligent and likable. This was before disney bought lucas film and lucas made the editor remove it from youtube.
@AKnightProductions
@AKnightProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I'm the creator of a fanedit of the final two seasons of Game of Thrones, and it's really cool to see a video essay recognizing our community's work. There's a ton of passion, a ton of work, and very little reward for what we do, since obviously we can't make money off of it, so recognition and the knowledge that people enjoy the work we do is what we thrive on. So thanks again!
@SirBlackReeds
@SirBlackReeds 3 жыл бұрын
You can't factor out ego or speak for the whole community.
@SteveBueche1027
@SteveBueche1027 Жыл бұрын
Where can I see this?
@NurbedUp
@NurbedUp Жыл бұрын
WHERE IS THIS?!
@ordinarryalien
@ordinarryalien Жыл бұрын
@@SirBlackReeds --__--
@OnyxLee
@OnyxLee Жыл бұрын
Yes, please post it!
@blufudgecrispyrice8528
@blufudgecrispyrice8528 3 жыл бұрын
The Thief and the Cobbler restoration is one of the greatest things ever.
@sustomusickillsyoutube
@sustomusickillsyoutube Жыл бұрын
Seconded!
@Mortimer_G
@Mortimer_G Жыл бұрын
I watched it and I agree
@FinnbarrGoesFast
@FinnbarrGoesFast Жыл бұрын
where can I see this?
@chimsuaumo
@chimsuaumo Жыл бұрын
@@FinnbarrGoesFast kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eLGEdrZ9x9DMpIE.html You can see it here.
@mecharex7785
@mecharex7785 Жыл бұрын
@@FinnbarrGoesFast it was on youtube but im not sure its still on here i saw it a couple months ago
@KirboYT
@KirboYT Жыл бұрын
It's absolutely insane to think that here's been a huge world of edits of movies right under my nose, I've never known about any of these, and I'm amazed what some dedicated fans can do, amazing video btw
@elio7610
@elio7610 Жыл бұрын
The way you phrase this "right under my nose" makes it sound like you are a director for some of these movies.
@boomr334
@boomr334 Жыл бұрын
Nearly 60 years on this molding planet and I am still learning new shit that is amazing my big regret is that I can't spend another lifetime learning all this
@kirkafur3
@kirkafur3 3 жыл бұрын
Hal9000 here. Someone sent me this video about fan edits, and I was not expecting the spotlight on 'Ascendant' toward the end. Thank you for the insightful and fair coverage of the world of fan edits.
@alfredthegreat9543
@alfredthegreat9543 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I watch your fan edits and those of others? Tried googling but no luck. Cheers
@ignaciorodriguez5636
@ignaciorodriguez5636 3 жыл бұрын
As a big Star Wars fan, I wanna see your TROS edit. I messaged you on Reddit too.
@ignaciorodriguez5636
@ignaciorodriguez5636 3 жыл бұрын
@@alfredthegreat9543 he send me the link to watch it drive.google.com/folderview?id=1K5OrqSYqkYgzLaVmdJRItUfW7DrpdGNA
@MoviesRemastered
@MoviesRemastered 2 жыл бұрын
@@ignaciorodriguez5636 please remove the link. You could jeopardise the project by sharing this publically.
@TheRealNormanBates
@TheRealNormanBates Жыл бұрын
@@alfredthegreat9543 if you can get an invite to MySpleen, you might find what you are looking for.
@midge_gender_solek3314
@midge_gender_solek3314 3 жыл бұрын
I recently found a fan edit of Star Wars that combined the "Despecialized Edition" with the Soviet 80s dub. So, a fan edit of a fan edit aimed not only at recreating the original cut, but at recreating the first Russian cut.
@GameyRaccoon
@GameyRaccoon Жыл бұрын
Wow cool
@lollertoaster
@lollertoaster Жыл бұрын
The case for phantom edit is so weird. Of course Anakin is a hero by mistake, he is a child guided by force. The force doesn't make you smarter, it guides your moves without you knowing it. It also make sense that Anakin is a talented underachiever (compared to what he could've been, not to others) with huge ego for his arc to continue.
@walterhoward5512
@walterhoward5512 Жыл бұрын
Good point. The justification doesn't make sense because it ignores the whole podrace scene. Anikan didn't win that by accident. A lot of the fan complaints kinda cone from a place of ignorance about what Lucas' intentions.
@CyreneDuVent
@CyreneDuVent 3 жыл бұрын
So, I read a lot of fanfiction, and I'm so excited with the ideas for the future that you present. With a written work, you can always write a new epilogue, make an AU, give the characters the conclusion and development you think they needed, rewrite half a book if you have the time. But movies have always been trickier. You can't exactly reshoot the end of Endgame the same way you can rewrite the end of HP. I know that there's all the ethical concerns of deepfakes, but that ability to create something which can fit with the original, even if it's not as good, be able to take the ending you wish there was and create it, is truly incredible to me
@MadHatter42
@MadHatter42 3 жыл бұрын
To me, what's curious about this is that the idea of any one person owning a story, and a story having a single, official version, is actually a relatively recent phenomenon in human culture. For most our history as a species, storytelling was organic, passed from teller to teller, and each storyteller was free to experiment with and alter stories as they saw fit. How many version of the Odyssey were being spoken aloud until Homer decided to write his version down? How many different scholars and storytellers contributed to the 1001 Nights before it actually became 1001 nights long? And even then, how many people could actually read these stories, as opposed to the vast majority of people who still relied on verbal storytelling The invention of the printing press made text truly concrete and static. The rise of literacy made written text a more popular medium for storytelling than verbal communication. The invention of Copyright Law made it more difficult to make personal edits to pre-existing stories. And the invention of Hollywood cinema magic created a new form of storytelling that was only available to a select few artists who had the patronage of wealthy producers and financiers. So it's mostly in the past 500 years or so that we've gotten used to the idea a story having one version, one vision, one creator. But the internet has done a great deal to re-democratize storytelling, allowing fans to re-edit and share their favorite stories and characters with their friends online. While all of this seems new and daring, it's really just old habits of sharing re-applied to new technological mediums. And that's kind of beautiful, if you ask me :)
@AgnesIona
@AgnesIona 3 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@orlandofurioso7329
@orlandofurioso7329 Жыл бұрын
It's also crap though since the original meaning can be lost, Disney's Pinocchio for example is not at all like the original novel, which was written as a warning for kids to tell them that if they were not careful they could be killed.
@elio7610
@elio7610 Жыл бұрын
@@orlandofurioso7329 I do not defend disney's practices as they are built on taking classic stories and claiming them as their own while they refuse to let anyone else do the same with their work. I will say though that changing the meaning of a story, while questionable, should be allowed to some extent for the sake creative freedom and as long as the original is still available then you can simply ignore the versions you do not like.
@bennyedelman6831
@bennyedelman6831 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the work 4K77 has done for restoring both Episode IV and VI from 35mm prints... even Harmy has given a shout out to them since he's simply color correcting 1080p scans while they've painstakingly done 4k scans from 35mm reels (they're still working on Empire)
@HolyMori-xd5hm
@HolyMori-xd5hm Жыл бұрын
There's a beta of Empire available now!
@BrandonGiesing
@BrandonGiesing Жыл бұрын
"since he's simply color correcting 1080p scans" that's massively downplaying the work Harmy has done, they are merging multiple sources together, doing rotoscoping which is hours of frame by frame edits, and a lot more. It's not just taking a 1080p print and changing the colors some.
@bennyedelman6831
@bennyedelman6831 Жыл бұрын
@@BrandonGiesing After having actually watched Harmy, I can confirm that you are right
@wesleyhunt7599
@wesleyhunt7599 3 жыл бұрын
Cloud Atlas Sextet is one of my favorites. It's a recut of Cloud Atlas to match the structure of the book where the stories are layered like a Russian Doll. It makes the order seem less arbitrary and the themes more apparent.
@bretoncristobal
@bretoncristobal Жыл бұрын
where can one find this??
@vincenttavani6380
@vincenttavani6380 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this!
@DDRWakaLaka
@DDRWakaLaka Жыл бұрын
Q2 is probably my favourite editor. His completed version of Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me and The Missing Pieces was absolutely incredible
@Jonathan-hd3hg
@Jonathan-hd3hg 3 жыл бұрын
With deepfakes just getting better and better, that seems like the natural progression. You'll be able to insert whole new scenes with the actor faces and voices.
@mk_knight5447
@mk_knight5447 3 жыл бұрын
I have a crazy idea about batman v superman starring Christopher Reeve, Michael Keaton and Linda Carter,
@christianangel2421
@christianangel2421 3 жыл бұрын
It’s gonna be amazing, saw a video the other day about some bitching on interpolation, oh god once they see this stuff those haters are going to lose it.
@yourlocaltoad5102
@yourlocaltoad5102 3 жыл бұрын
There already were people remaking the CGI-versions of Tarkin, Leia and Luke using deepfakes and they were so much better than whatever Disney did.
@Malachi_Risinger
@Malachi_Risinger 2 жыл бұрын
At some point, we'll have Solo starring Harrison Ford lol
@MeNoOther
@MeNoOther Жыл бұрын
@@mk_knight5447 I would like a hybrid Classic and modern Wonder Woman music theme
@vincenttavani6380
@vincenttavani6380 3 жыл бұрын
Fan edits are the 21st century manifestation of folk art. Without a dialectic like this, art belongs to its originator and therefore constrained by their flaws and perspective. A story polished by multiple tellings gets closer to the archetypes, fundamental human problems and solutions, and something we could call truth.
@Llanowar_Kitten
@Llanowar_Kitten 3 жыл бұрын
I think that’s a really insightful analogy, but I also think there’s a difference in that no content can be added. It’s a really restrictive form of adaptation. Most folk art is re-interpreted keeping only the basic skeleton, whereas fan edits must use what is already there.
@LordJagd
@LordJagd 3 жыл бұрын
@@Llanowar_Kitten Yeah and a lot of the time it is constrained by the conventional structure of a film. It's pretty far from folk art, I'd say. I mean, a lot of folk art is entirely original DESPITE mainstream "high art", it doesn't exist dependent on high art.
@LanceThumping
@LanceThumping 3 жыл бұрын
That might be a good way of viewing it. In some ways, I think media goes beyond the original creator and is polished by the fans into a more pure form. As if the original creator was looking through a window into another world, sometimes it's clear and you get beautiful stories but sometimes the window is dirty or gets dirty/fogged up and the results are a messy view into the world that the fans can polish. Star Wars is one of the best examples I think. The original series is pretty much a clean window into the universe of Star Wars. The prequels the window is dirty/fogged up and we got a muddled series of movies with bad dialogue but the core idea (the shapes in the window) are there and are still genuine to the universe but need cleaning up. That's where the the games (KOTOR), series like The Clone Wars, and, of course, the Extended Universe came in and tried to polish the story. It's also why something like Disney's takeover is so upsetting to so many fans. Their first act was to try and completely delegitimize the EU and the games previously made. Then they released sequels that completely went against the spirit of the originals in ways that completely violated the story they claimed ownership to.
@midnightgod123
@midnightgod123 3 жыл бұрын
So works won't be your own anymore
@reelcinemavideoessays
@reelcinemavideoessays 3 жыл бұрын
Medium specificity at its finest
@NotSoMax
@NotSoMax Жыл бұрын
What’s exciting is the possibility that some future directors, editors, and studio heads will watch this and have it nested in their minds when they grow up and are in positions of power, I’d wager there’s probably at least 1 person who watches this and will eventually go in to create their own fan edit.
@Tokru86
@Tokru86 Жыл бұрын
I mean, what is Episode VI if not an elaborate fan-edit?
@dsproductions19
@dsproductions19 Жыл бұрын
One fun example in the anime realm are edits that cut out all the filler content. For longer series based on an ongoing manga, the anime writers will often come up with new scenes, lines, and even entire arcs to avoid catching up fully with that source (so they can continue making episodes). And while full arcs are often separate episodes, many series have a ton of filler spliced into the canon episodes which makes it very complex. One I saw recently was actually from a KZfaqr named Oceaniz who posted a video called "I re-edited all of Naruto for my girlfriend", which explains the process and complications he had while re-editing over 700 episodes. Like finding ways to cut out half an episode of filler and re-cutting the next episodes to make them standard length again.
@McLir
@McLir 3 жыл бұрын
Glenn Gould talked about the potentiality of this in 1969: "You know, I have a feeling that the end result of all our labors in the recording studio is not going to be some kind of autocratic finished product-such as we turn out now, with relative ease, with the help of splice-making, which we do or which engineers do for us-but is going to be a rather more democratic assemblage. And I think we’re going to make kits. I think we’re going to send out these kits to listeners, perhaps to viewers also, if videotape cartridge gets into the act as it probably will. And we’re going to say, “Do it yourself. Take the assembled components and make of those components something that you genuinely appreciate. And if you don’t like the result that you put together the first time, put it together a second time. Be, in fact, your own editor. Be, in a sense, your own performer.”
@Yolashillinia
@Yolashillinia Жыл бұрын
Of all the people I expected to be quoted in the comments, Glenn Gould was not one of them! That's so awesome.
@HoldenHardman
@HoldenHardman 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first video of yours I've seen, and I really REALLY enjoyed it. Surprisingly touching as well. I will watch your career with great interest.
@axiosspark9183
@axiosspark9183 3 жыл бұрын
BRUH HOLDEN WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE!
@rjirangkun
@rjirangkun 3 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there
@dildonius
@dildonius 3 жыл бұрын
My first video of his that I saw was the one about the history of "Smell-O-Vision" and 3D films and the brief fad of "Scratch 'n Sniff" films[*] (which often were paired with 3D films in the 2000s - for instance, _Spy Kids 3D_ did this iirc, but only in theaters & not in any home-video release). It was great and instantly made him one of my all-time favorite KZfaqrs and my straight-up favorite of the non-political video-essayists - especially the video-essayists whose video-essayist video-essays are focused on the world of filum and cinematic cinema and da movies. [*]Such as _The Rugrats Go Wild!,_ the theatrically-released film that crossed over _The Rugrats_ with _The Wild Thornberries_ where the theater would give you a scratch 'n sniff card with your ticket and at various points in the movie, a color-coded number would appear in the bottom corner of the screen, prompting you to scratch and then sniff the corresponding section of your card. Being, a _Rugged Brats/Wilted Thurnd'b'rees_ film from Nippelodeon circa the mid-2000s, they were all gross-out smells. Like there's a bit where someone opens up a tin of sardines or anchovies (which I think foreshadows something the kids have to do later) and the smell you're prompted to scratch is - naturally - sardesque or anchovian in nature. Another one is where male twin Phil (of the gross twin duo Phil & Lil DeVille) takes off his shoe and sock after a very long time and of course the prompt comes up when he sticks his foot at the screen...so you get to smell something...that I guess was supposed to be a stinky-feet smell. Iirc, there was literally like one pleasant smell in the whole filum. Needless to say, this fad was short lived.[*]
@TheNameisPlissken1981
@TheNameisPlissken1981 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I love fan edits. Some of them are great, some not so great. I also think, if you own a copy of the film you should be able to watch it any way you want. That said, the Raising Cain edit makes a decent film into a great film. There's also a fan edit of Prometheus called The Giftgiver that is simply wonderful. Fan edits breathe life into films. They allow editors to think outside the box and make something new out of something old or to make some good out of something bad. The possibilities can be both endless and limited, but creativity, in any fashion, is something to be appreciated not snubbed.
@geoffshaw346
@geoffshaw346 Жыл бұрын
I once tried to recut ALIEN 3,so it was implied Ripley survived.I'll leave that to better,more equipped fans.
@artboymoy
@artboymoy Жыл бұрын
I watched Derelict and that was pretty interesting. I'll have to look into Giftgiver, but honestly I like the way Prometheus is as I see it as a dark Star Trek movie. The crew lands on a planet. Red shirts do stupid things that get themselves killed. Awaken ancient aliens you have to fight... Its a bloody good time.
@ObsidianContraption
@ObsidianContraption Жыл бұрын
Imagine an edit that takes on the Jar jar is a Sith Lord theory, which gave me a whole new respect for the character. Shows behind the facade scenes where he schemes with palpatine. If this doesn't exist yet, please, somebody make this!
@Skorpeonismyrealname
@Skorpeonismyrealname Жыл бұрын
Then fast foward to an edit of _Rise._ Palpatine did die. But Jar Jar didn't.
@limberlad
@limberlad 3 жыл бұрын
Disney: "Why doesn't Star Wars perform well in China"? Star Wars in China: "I can't lose again your elephant loves my mother so"..."I am more more than any hero's geographic change's strong and big" Edit: For any other uncultured Dragon Ball fans out there, the Big Green dub was spawned in a similar manner
@SalemYbor
@SalemYbor 3 жыл бұрын
Ratio Tile is my favourite Jedi !
@Reydriel
@Reydriel 3 жыл бұрын
Also the Duwang version of Jojo Part 4 lol
@liberpolo5540
@liberpolo5540 3 жыл бұрын
I can't unsee Palpatine telling Anakin "The Presbyterian Church, like ... enjoys you not." HAPPY MAY THE FOURTH! xD
@The_Reviewist
@The_Reviewist Жыл бұрын
Wow, I remember when I was mad into Fan Edits. One that I really was blown away by, in a similar sense to the Cobbler & the Thief/Raising Cain restorations, was the fan edit of The Crow: City of Angels which restored the movie in a similar way to the director's original vision before studio interference and production problems. As I recall, the director similarly saw it and tweeted that he loved it.
@mariecarie1
@mariecarie1 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap. It's like movies with mods. This is so cool!
@yshwgth
@yshwgth 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing I want is a fan edit that fulfils the promise of Darth Jar Jar.
@filmnerd14
@filmnerd14 3 жыл бұрын
As a fan-editor myself, this touches my soul AND nails home what is it that makes edits so memorable. I started in 6th grade with crappy iMovie software and using my phone to record scenes from Spider-Man 3. Now, ripping DVD’s and using more Premiere Pro, I’ve learned from practice. A lot of fan-edits are used to advance one’s own skills and service a better product, which just makes this video’s message that much more amazing.
@linkkling
@linkkling Жыл бұрын
This video felt 3 times longer than it actually was, in a good way.
@w.b.s.
@w.b.s. Жыл бұрын
Honestly surprised you didn't even touch up on Adywan's A New Hope/Empire Strikes Back Revisited edits. Both basically polish the ever loving hell out of their original films, adding more ships to battle scenes (both with digital and practical models), fixing continuity errors, making the aliens more expressive, and apparently much, MUCH more is planned for Return of the Jedi and a remastered version of his ANH edit, basically trying to turn the OT into the most perfect possible versions of themselves.
@nandoflorestan
@nandoflorestan Жыл бұрын
Well then there should be fewer ships in battle scenes, not more. Except the first film, that's the best dogfight ever.
@geoffshaw346
@geoffshaw346 Жыл бұрын
Now,if only fans with these abilities coud/would fix STAR WARS 7-9. I'd BUY those...
@w.b.s.
@w.b.s. Жыл бұрын
@@geoffshaw346 wow, brave take, have your reddit gold
@w.b.s.
@w.b.s. Жыл бұрын
@@geoffshaw346 people are also doing that btw, “Fixing Disney Star Wars” for example
@geoffshaw346
@geoffshaw346 Жыл бұрын
@@w.b.s. Yes,I commented too soon.
@bbrbbr-on2gd
@bbrbbr-on2gd 3 жыл бұрын
Retelling a story is classic art. This is how we do it now, but with a previously more difficult medium to get into, because of the barrier of entry. It's a more expensive version of Fan fiction.
@phoebexxlouise
@phoebexxlouise 3 жыл бұрын
Orson Welles worked on a version of Don Quixote for 30 years, his child actress aged up and everything. I would pay real money to see a restored and edited version of that.
@beardalaxy
@beardalaxy Жыл бұрын
My favorite fan edit is Blade Runner's Analogue Cut. It retains the newer CGI and gore of the Final Cut, but changes the color grading to that of the Director's Cut, so instead of that weird green tint you get everything looking a lot more diverse. It removes some of the "Ridley Scott-isms" as well, like directing the viewers to think Deckard was a replicant.
@CaptainSpalding72
@CaptainSpalding72 11 ай бұрын
He was a replicant.
@g-manfreezer1998
@g-manfreezer1998 10 ай бұрын
@@CaptainSpalding72If you’d watched 2049, you’d know he’s not.
@STormnNormn2027
@STormnNormn2027 Жыл бұрын
My single favorite restoration of a film is The Ulysses Cut of Waterworld. It’s one of my favorite movies and it is such an improvement upon it.
@geoffshaw346
@geoffshaw346 Жыл бұрын
Maybe Hollywood beat someone to it,with the extended,better cut of the movie that exists.
@mr.sand7899
@mr.sand7899 3 жыл бұрын
I always wanted to see a fan edit that takes Superman the movie, Superman the Movie the Extended Edition, Superman 2, and Superman 2 the Donner Cut and put it all together the way Donner intended for the movie to originally be.
@SirBlackReeds
@SirBlackReeds 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't that still leave out the fact that Donner originally intended for Superman II to be much more contemplative of what it'd be like to be Superman?
@nitroxylictv
@nitroxylictv Жыл бұрын
I wanna see that done with all of the Star Wars movies, put together in chronological order and turned into one giant story. The run time would be days long though, but a lot of the boring or slow paced scenes could be cut out to make it shorter. 1, 2, Clone Wars, 3, Solo, Rogue One, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 all in one feature. I would literally spend 3 or 4 days off work just to watch it all from start to finish.
@nickgrantham4013
@nickgrantham4013 3 жыл бұрын
The Planet of the Apes / Twilight Zone mashup sounds amazing.
@TheRealCeeJai
@TheRealCeeJai 3 жыл бұрын
This was so well-done and interesting I watched it twice back-to-back. Once to absorb the information and thesis, and the second to write down all these cool fan edits you mentioned that I need to check out!
@abcrasshadow9341
@abcrasshadow9341 Жыл бұрын
A video like this should really include a complete list of fan remakes mentioned and some additional mentions.
@milksweet6038
@milksweet6038 3 жыл бұрын
The recobbled cut is a necessary piece of art that I’m grateful exists.
@ThisIsCreation-FollowOnTwitter
@ThisIsCreation-FollowOnTwitter 3 жыл бұрын
Hal9000's star wars edits are my favourite, they are done out of love for the star wars universe, his cuts are to make the narratives fit better.
@hermos3602
@hermos3602 3 жыл бұрын
Not always. Sometimes they're meant to spite the original creators.
@willowism
@willowism 3 жыл бұрын
@@hermos3602 sometimes that's the same thing
@iforgot87872
@iforgot87872 3 жыл бұрын
Here’s the best one: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iNJ8rdZ7sNasiJc.html
@Goldenlevel555
@Goldenlevel555 Жыл бұрын
Any idea where to find his edits of episode 1 & 2? I really want to watch
@ThisIsCreation-FollowOnTwitter
@ThisIsCreation-FollowOnTwitter Жыл бұрын
@@Goldenlevel555 Google Hal9000 edits and you'll find a reddit page with the links
@lucasatchley4509
@lucasatchley4509 7 ай бұрын
It's just like covers of songs. There's some covers that make me appreciate songs that I previously didn't enjoy.
@whatifgaming1661
@whatifgaming1661 Жыл бұрын
Your optimism and joy really shows through this video. Its a small thing to end a video optimistically but, idk. I really needed something uplifting rn so thanks.
@laceystephens8800
@laceystephens8800 3 жыл бұрын
Started watching you years ago and have never tired of your voice
@UBK_DE
@UBK_DE 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for introducing me to "Backstroke of the West"
@samueljenkis6253
@samueljenkis6253 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making great content that isn't saddled with numerous ad breaks throughout each video. There are so many here that don't go two minutes without an ad break, regardless of how long or short they are. Creators like you are the best, thanks again, subbed forever.
@ScrambledAndBenedict
@ScrambledAndBenedict Жыл бұрын
This is always been very fascinating to me. The efforts people will go to to, at least as far as they are concerned, improve a work. Like that massive effort to make The Recobbled Cut of The Thief and the Cobbler.
@ShawnGBR
@ShawnGBR 3 жыл бұрын
For the versions of the prequels without Jar Jar (as we know him) - the Redux versions. His language is now alien, he's subtitled, which means his words can be much harsher and like a warrior. No clumsiness, no stupid pod race commentary, no stilted dialogue. It's great.
@hermos3602
@hermos3602 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the way he's meant to be. You know, how he is in TPM.
@ussarng4649
@ussarng4649 3 жыл бұрын
Oh now I want to see this movie now. I haven't been much of a Star Wars fan but have recently seen some fan films that have opened the possibilities of me becoming a Star Wars fanfilm fan.
@weberman173
@weberman173 3 жыл бұрын
honestly, good for people that like it that way, but personaly i like Jar Jar as he is, he is unsuferable at times. but.. to me that WAS the point, Jar Jar is noone special, infact, he is probably the least "special" person in the entire star wars saga that we follow as part of the main supporting cast, he is no great politician, Jedi Knight, or Clone Trooper. He is just... "him" clumsy, but well meaning. To me Jar Jar showed to us that, even in a world where Space Wizards exists, where People exists who where created for war(granted clone troopers came later) sometimes, just a normal guy, with good intentions can make all the difference(battle of naboo) and sometimes, the same person, with the best of intension, can be the catalyst for a tragedy(him proposing emergency powers to the chancelor(even if that was proposed by other people to him)) Jar Jar is no Warrior, he is just... a clumsy well meaning person surrounded by extraordinary people
@SirBlackReeds
@SirBlackReeds 3 жыл бұрын
What if you're wrong?
@SirBlackReeds
@SirBlackReeds 3 жыл бұрын
@@weberman173 He does fulfill a classical role.
@TOFMDrone
@TOFMDrone 3 жыл бұрын
i need a t-shirt with vader going: "DO NOT WANT!"
@Serai3
@Serai3 3 жыл бұрын
I think this video has just given you permission to go make it. :)
@lawrenceclemens8494
@lawrenceclemens8494 Жыл бұрын
Wow, what a comprehensive overview, analysis, and extrapolation of the fan edit and where it's headed in the future. The two things I wish you had included were the amazing fan edit - ultimate reconstruction - of David Lynch's Dune (it's the closest we'll ever get to his director's cut - or could be considered the 'lost workprint') and the fan edit I saw of Warren Beatty's Dick Tracy in which a fan converted the film to B&W (making it a true film noir), trimmed out poorly photographed bad makeup shots, and eliminated practically all of Madonna's singing - which really quickened the pace, making it a substantially better film. Other than that, thanks for a most enlightening video. I'm sending this to all my friends. And in the meantime planning a fan edit of a classic, adding storyboarded scenes lost either through lack of budget, lack of time, or the technology didn't exist 60 years ago.
@ChrisPeteG
@ChrisPeteG Жыл бұрын
I was talking to a film buddy the other day discussing the potential of one day, down the road...buying a movie would give you full access to a number of completed scenes and materials, and full access to a sort of "edit squite" where you could freely put together your own version of the film. You could take a film and any number of the alternate scenes or extended versions and put them together to your liking. Creating the perfect hybrid you like, as long or short as you prefer. I would probably tighten most movies up and whittle a lot of them down. I live by the legendary mantra of "If you shake a film, 10 minutes will fall out" and I feel that many modern films forget this adage entirely.
@StarCrusher.
@StarCrusher. 3 жыл бұрын
I can feel the royal ocean film society returned on the hoof! DO WAAAANT!
@chelseal8448
@chelseal8448 3 жыл бұрын
fan edits are just another form of transformative work, like fan art and fan fiction. more power to them!
@gantzllat
@gantzllat 3 жыл бұрын
now imagine this. A starwars prequel trilogy edited to fit the evil Jar Jar theory
@CasualRonin
@CasualRonin 3 жыл бұрын
Fan editing, to me, is a weirdly fun process. When I did a fan edit of "Godzilla vs Hedorah", there was a bit of a challenge trying to achieve what I wanted to do, but that challenge was fun. I may go back and correct things at some point, but I will say, if anyone has thoughts on doing their own fan edit, I say go for it.
@taheralshawi7834
@taheralshawi7834 3 жыл бұрын
I fucking LOVE the topics you choose
@pithyginger6371
@pithyginger6371 3 жыл бұрын
the third gathers is the best laugh i've had in a while
@AndrewRedwood81
@AndrewRedwood81 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, and visuals - thanks for making these!
@crazyjoeshorts5256
@crazyjoeshorts5256 Жыл бұрын
My favorite phantom menace edit so far was one where they just cut in some alien language for the gungan's dialogue and put in subtitles. It just worked so much better. You could take all of them seriously, even jar-jar.
@OhNoRh1no
@OhNoRh1no 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Recobbled is such a critical project! Another category that might be worth exploring is edits rescoring the soundtrack. The two I'm vaguely aware of are Metropolis Rescored by the New Pollutants and someone adding new snythwave music to Escape from New York
@anthonybernacchi2732
@anthonybernacchi2732 Жыл бұрын
As of January 1st, anyone is free to rescore Metropolis completely legally (in the US, that is, not in Germany).
@Caligari87
@Caligari87 3 жыл бұрын
Something I'd like to see is a director / studio releasing a TON more material in usable form, the way that musicians often do in the form of "stems" for remixes. So you get the official cut of the movie, but perhaps you can also go online and obtain a slew of deleted scenes, pre-vis, raw takes, outtakes, workprints, etc, in original quality, and thus with the implicit blessing of the creators go on to create even more ambitious takes on the source material.
@goodmaro
@goodmaro 3 жыл бұрын
Open source!
@Eddyoshi
@Eddyoshi Жыл бұрын
This might be one of my favourite YT videos I've ever seen. I truly love fan edits and anyone who points of new ones or heaps praise on the idea in general leads me to love it, but also the production value of this vid is just crazy good too! Thanks for the American Psycho x Batman Begins edit point out, I need to go watch that right now XD
@familynerf
@familynerf 2 жыл бұрын
I am just getting into watching Fan Edits and this was a great watch. So far I watched the M4 edit of the Hobbit into one 4hr film. It is my definitive version and what I showed my son's.
@breakingglass27
@breakingglass27 3 жыл бұрын
I love how "they fly now" doesn't require any audio for most people watching this video to understand
@MoviesRemastered
@MoviesRemastered 3 жыл бұрын
Woohoo! My fan art made it in 18:22 Great video dude. I'm working on a TROS edit called "The Last Hope" where I've added 72 new VFX shots and given every scene a new meaning. Thanks for introducing me to the Recobbled Cut btw. 👍🏼
@jackjackson3349
@jackjackson3349 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking for your comment. I can't wait for your TROS edit. You're my favourite fan editor ever!
@MoviesRemastered
@MoviesRemastered 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackjackson3349 awww thanks man. I'm nothing compared to Adywan, Harmy or Poppasketti. Those guys are heroes in my eyes.
@jackjackson3349
@jackjackson3349 2 жыл бұрын
@@MoviesRemastered those guys are amazing also but your breakdowns back me think about star wars in a new way. You really have a talent. Does Poppa do full movies? He made the flyover shot, right?
@MoviesRemastered
@MoviesRemastered 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackjackson3349 well I'm honoured for you to say that. I know Poppa did a TLJ cut but I can't remember if that was a collab with Hal? Yeah, he did the flyover shot and a bunch of others. He's an incredible talent, Jonh too.
@jackjackson3349
@jackjackson3349 2 жыл бұрын
@@MoviesRemastered John's force ghosts are PHENOMENAL. I can't wait to see what you do with the new ending.
@oldkingspook
@oldkingspook Жыл бұрын
Fan edits give me hope. As Hollywood devolves storytelling into a soulless monstrosity, there will always be fans who truly love their favorite franchises and try to breathe life back into them. I want adaptations to be made by professionals who are true fans of the work, not just there for acclaim and a paycheck. We'd have movies on par with Jackson's LOTR again.
@kieranhealy8279
@kieranhealy8279 2 жыл бұрын
This is really well put together!
@MagnirProductions
@MagnirProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I'm always so happy to see people promoting the Recobbled cut of the Thief and the Cobbler.
@alexmott507
@alexmott507 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I did those Knight of Ren voices! Just a heads-up, a V2 of TRoS:Ascendant is being worked on by a bunch of people, with a "Rey Nobody" edition coming later on which removes the stupid Palpatine lineage.
@BenjaminWhitley
@BenjaminWhitley 3 жыл бұрын
Will it be called Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Nobody?
@jasonblalock4429
@jasonblalock4429 3 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity, what do you plan on doing when future Star Wars material uses the stuff you're cutting\changing about TROS? This seems like an awful lot of work just to create a headcanon that's almost certainly going to be overwritten by future projects.
@alexmott507
@alexmott507 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonblalock4429 Eh, we'll deal with that if it happens. It would take an Episode X for that to matter, and who knows how long it'll be before they try to continue that story. For now, it's been fun working on a SW project during the pandemic. It's been a cool way to stay busy.
@alexmott507
@alexmott507 3 жыл бұрын
@@BenjaminWhitley for now, the "Rey Skywalker" bit hasn't been cut. But if it somehow gets replaced with a convincing deepfake of her saying "Just Rey", then I dunno, it'll be *Duel of the Fates* or something. The guy who's leading the project (Hal9000) retitled all of his prequel edits, so it wouldn't be the first time.
@jasonblalock4429
@jasonblalock4429 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexmott507 Fair enough. Good luck!
@Thehotdogman
@Thehotdogman Жыл бұрын
My favorite fan edit is the detarnished cut of the Doc Savage movie. It's original tone was an ill-advised comedy whereas the fan edit salvages a fine made for TV adventure film. Fine work. Absolutely fine work.
@AuthorCertifiedGoof
@AuthorCertifiedGoof Жыл бұрын
I loved this video! Also just signed up for curiosity stream / nebula using your code so thanks for that! Looking forward to going down the rabbit hole watching more of you videos!
@alecgolas8396
@alecgolas8396 3 жыл бұрын
The HAL9000 fan edit of Attack of the Clones is genuinely a great movie. It totally blew my mind
@ChadtheDJguy
@ChadtheDJguy 3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen his edits for TPM and ROTS? How good were they?
@alecgolas8396
@alecgolas8396 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChadtheDJguy Yeah, Phantom Menace was made from a mess into a decent movie, but the ending was greatly improved. ROTS was already a decent movie imo so it was mostly rearranging scenes to improve the sort of logical progression of the story. For example, it makes Anakin wake up from a nightmare about Padme, and after waking up, he immediately runs to the theater to spy on Palpatine where he gets the Darth Plagueis story. And Anakin doesn't tell anyone about his fears, so it's entirely internalized which flows a lot better.
@kyonkochan
@kyonkochan 3 жыл бұрын
Coming soon: The fan edit of Citizen Kane starring Michael Caine.
@sebswede9005
@sebswede9005 3 жыл бұрын
Deepfake
@reelcinemavideoessays
@reelcinemavideoessays 3 жыл бұрын
The memes would be gold!
@Menaceblue3
@Menaceblue3 3 жыл бұрын
Citizen Kane? More like, Citizen Caine!!!!
@ceciliakeller957
@ceciliakeller957 Жыл бұрын
Your commentary on the implications of all this is FASCINATING to me. Describing fans seeing/feeling ownership over a given movie or piece of fiction threw me for a bit of a loop, I've always seen (and partially been told) that fan work is a conversation with a given work. BUT the more recent styles of edits you've been describing and a rapid (and concerning) shift in fan culture definitely tend more toward ownership/indicate those feelings of ownership. That shift in culture I think is more due to the rise of fan/creator interaction on the internet (which oh my god what a nightmare that's creating) but the implications of the edits you're describing and that being viewed more as ownership than conversation is kinda making me rethink a lot of what I take for granted about fandom, because in at least some of what you went over, it definitely leans more toward "this is what the story should be" not "let me show you what I got out of this/let me expand on this story" and applying that kind of thinking to other fan work formats is FASCINATING to me. and mildly concerning. thank you for the very cool video and for giving me something to debate with myself!
@isabelbard853
@isabelbard853 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioned the recobbled version of The Thief and the Cobbler. I'm super nostalgic for it and now I'm going to go watch it.
@The_Blazelighter
@The_Blazelighter 3 жыл бұрын
"The following is a non-profit fan-based parody" - popular fan edits that I'd rate 4/5 stars.
@juliagreen8659
@juliagreen8659 3 жыл бұрын
I think they have to say it’s a parody for legal reasons, so it falls under fair use 😭
@Munkaa
@Munkaa 3 жыл бұрын
I love the extra work you put into your transitions and small animations. Keep up with the great content!
@tityboi7295
@tityboi7295 Жыл бұрын
The best rewrite is Jar Jar being a sith lord.
@GazpachoTabletop
@GazpachoTabletop Жыл бұрын
This is my first exposure to your channel and I really liked this video
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