Exactly! And Dulles' number 2 for 9 years (and in charge of the BOP attack) was General Cabell, brother of the Mayor of Dallas. Cabell was also fired by JFK. "Admired/loved Kennedy" Was used several times by people involved in the plot - David Ferrie, Clay Shaw and Jack Ruby were all extreme right wingers who said it, to avoid suspicion.

Could one of you point to comments of Dulles explicitly stating he hated JFK? I know it’s popular in mythology but I’ve never found anything where he personally criticized the president.

@Katrina Favret Ultimately it was his call but there was a lot of blame to go around.

@@Ckom-Tunes True he had no good choices. I mean he could have overthrown Cuba, but he would be condemned all throughout Europe,Latin America, a lot of the left here, and Moscow. Not to mention the constant reprisals from Castro loyalists if under military occupation.

But you don't know the whole story.Dulles and Kennedy both agreed he had to step down though he technically fired him.Blakey is right there are pictures of Kennedy and Dulles being friendly ling after he was fired.

Thats right! The Warren Commission and the goverment are full of it. They fed the American people, actually the whole world, so many lies..it's degrading to the whole world and all things that made sense!

The reason Hoover was saying that was everybody and there mommy in Dallas law enforcement were telling him that though he did want it to get settled quickly because he did not want it to get out that he dropped the ball on investigating oswald

@@randyharris3175 We will never know because Oswald was never tried and convicted. Hoover, on the other hand, was as guilty as the day is long. What a horrible person he was! Poor Justice Warren was forced by LBJ to partake in that fraud of an investigation.

@@stephenjablonsky1941 i think we know beyond any doubt that oswald did it

@@randyharris3175 Were you there? Did you see him do it?

@@stephenjablonsky1941 come on man more evidence against that guy than anybody in history do not be a moron

LOL!

My thoughts exactly... hilarious how they believe the final shot to the head came from behind, especially considering all the witness testimony to seeing blood and white matter spraying over the left rear of the trunk ... and more importantly one of those witnesses was a motorcycle cop, directly to the left rear of the car, and his testimony was unique because not only did he see this pattern and direction of blood and brain, he also stated he got spattered with blood from that shot 😳... these people seriously need to take forensics course or at least have a better understanding of basic physics, this is just embarrassing imo

We call that "closing the Overton window"

Their running a shell game. The deck is stacked 75-25. They plant the oswald did it flag, then hedge just enough , so they can say - we will never know the truth. But Oswald did it. It's called truth management. Lol

@@larrywheels762 *They're

It doesn't matter how long any of the Witnesses live, The Government has Covered this up and The FBI, CIA and Secret Service were all involved in the Assassination!! Read some books and you will see! Start with the Book, The Best Evidence and there are many More! I used to think that Clint Hill, The Secret Service Man who jumped on the back of JFKs Car was a Hero but he was Just as Involved as the Rest of them and that's One Reason he was Not on JFKs Car? Very Sad that we will Never Know what really happened? And Now were dealing with the Worst President in our History!! Biden is a Treasonous Along with his Entire Family and hopefully the House will get to the Bottom of the Bidens Dealings with China and other Countries?

You must be very easy to entertain.

@@rvierra7235 ..So, why don't you ! Take your time now. kdagPlymouthUK 2023May21st.2041hr

1 hour 55, quotation Allen Dulles was a great public servant? That idiot is got to read the devil's chessboard having somebody who has an opinion like that is ridiculous to allow him to express anything about the Kennedy assassination!

@@rvierra7235 I turned it off when he said the entry wound was at the back of the head. All the Parkland doctors saw a large hole in the right posterior of the head. I don't think all of those doctors were lying.

in the early 60s where the line between CIA and the Mafia was pretty blurry...

Sounds like a scene out of "Peyton Place".

@@samsmom400 😂

I have no idea what this means

Bay of pigs Cuban missile crisis Berlin blockade and nothing happens anymore in history at that time??

@@gobert9316Precisely. Junk.

That`s a binary understanding of a "loner"

Oswald also joined the KGB 🎖️ He was recruited in Japan and trained in Russia ☝️

Loners don't have friends like Clay Shaw and DeMohrenschildt.

A loner and a joiner are *NOT* mutually exclusive.

@@jamesanthony5681 of course not, but behavior patterns are smthn u can bet money on😏

What physical evidence do you have for a shot from the grassy knoll?

@Laika24102007physical evidence, medical evidence, for starters shots above and behind the president. Not one piece of evidence show otherwise for a frontal shot, which you must know this but start acting silly about clips.

@@dustinkfc6633 ALL of the medical professionals, who were very experienced with gun shot wounds, saw a large exit wound on the _rear_ of Kennedy's head. What more do you need?

@@432b86ed not true

@@dustinkfc6633 Suit yourself.

Yeah Kennedy was espousing anti-war, and anti-imperialist rhetoric.... no reason for USSR to want to remove that. JFK opposed vietnam war, wouldn't invade Cuba, so basically he was going against everything that the military complex wanted. He literally said a peaceful resolution to the cold war, so that would mean no work for all these guys.

@@atmosrepair You're full of idle, useless speculation, if not full of something else.

@@atmosrepair but to be fair, every single president called for a peaceful end to the Cold War. Whether they meant it or not, they had to say it for domestic politics and international relations. You can't run for president/reelection saying you are going to start a war haha. When someone famous dies, it's typical for people to look back at things they said and think they are more meaningful/relevant than they actually are.

@@grobbs666 this is the President that was in power at the peak of the Cold War. He was very open about in his American University speech. Diem was murdered only 3 weeks before JFK as he was eyeing a route out of Vietnam and Detente with Castro.

@@cheezoncrack1 again every president says publicly they want peace. Ronald Reagan for example said he wanted to end the Cold War peacefully, even pushed publicly to eliminate all nuclear weapons. Yet he spent countless billions of dollars building up the military and got us involved in several conflicts. So Kennedy saying in a speech he wanted peace doesn't really mean anything. Actions are what matters. Not sure what assassination of Diem has to do with Kennedy assassination. First there's no evidence the CIA murdered him. There's evidence they knew it was going to happen, but not that they did it themselves. Second, Kennedy was President, so if it was a CIA operation, he would have had to order it and give the ok. Third, my mom was also born roughly 2 weeks before Kennedys assassination... that doesn't make it suspicious. Point is, you can always go back at look at events right before a significant event and jump to the conclusion they must be somehow relevant. Right now as a thought experiment, you could pick a random world changing event you pretend happened, and look back at the last month and easily find countless quotes, speeches, events that seem to fit it. Like people seeing shapes in the clouds.

There's a good new and scary book Lone Star Speaks on many witnesses who were scared told to shut up about what they saw and did in relation to Oswald,Ruby,LBJ, and The Assassination.

@@vernpascal1531 My dad was briefly questioned by the Secret Service and FBI, but his statement did not fit their narrative, so they never used it, He was told not to discuss it further with anyone, under the National Secrets Act. Several of our neighbors, who were also there, were also questioned and told the same thing.

@dropsy: The HSCA determination of "probable conspiracy" was based solely on last minute acoustical evidence (of an alleged 4th shot). But this evidence was debunked 3 years later by the National Academy of Sciences; leaving the House with no evidence, and no conspiracy.

@@JoelBrothers I'd like to hear more if you could. Or maybe contact the above Authors. I just saw this. When good witness after good witness( first hand etc is denied, or ignored ,and people are threatened or told to shut up)Then that tells you the official story can't be true. Same with the concealing of all the Documents.

@@vernpascal1531 What would you like to know? I didn't see much, but I'll tell you what I remember. And it wasn't like what the official storyline says. It's garbage. I was only 4 years old, but my eyes and ears worked fine.

Right

PLAN - TED. PLEASE WATCH THIS. The Zaptruder Film MYSTERY.

"How did the bullet get on the stretcher?" philly johnny the question should be HOW DID A BULLET GET ON THE GURNEY ?. there actually is not a single witness who identofied ce399 (the so called magic bullet ) as the bullet found at parkland . it didnt even fall from connallys gurney , it fell from a gurney that was already in the corridor and which a young boy had previously laid upon . darrell tomlinson along with nathan pool found the bullet , pool said that it was a pointed tip bullet , ce399 is round nosed all most flat nosed . pool knowing about jfks death didnt want to be involved so he told tomlinson to say he found the bullet alone , and thats what he did . tomlinson brought the bullet to his superior o p wright , he also gave a statement saying the bullet was POINTED TIPPED . tomlinson always maintained that the bullet fell not from connallys gurney (which he pulled from the elevator ) but from a gurney that was already in the corridor by the wall . the fbi fabricated a report stating falsely that the above men were shown ce399 at parkland by fbi agent odum and that they identified it as the bullet they found . ALL LIES . none of the 3 men ever identified ce399 as the bullet they found . in fact agent odum upon being told that he was named in the fabricated report as the agent that brought ce399 to parkland stated that he never even saw ce399 and that he never brought any bullet to parkland . arlen specter knew the importance of the bullet and he tried to twist things and tried to get tomlinson to say that the bullet fell from connallys gurney , when that failed he pushed tomlinson in to admitting that HE COULD BE WRONG . a bullet was found thats for sure . remember it was texas . the lad on the gurney could have been hunting and was somehow injured or taken ill , i say that as i dont recall why he had been on the gurney . but a bullet could have innocently fallen from his pocket and on to the gurney . it was then brought to fbi offices where they THOUGHT it fell from connallys gurney , they found it was not a carcano bullet . that would pose a big problem , it could mean two shooters and by then orders had come down NO CONSPIRACY . oswald had originally been charged with killing jfk in the furtherance of an international communist conspiracy , the dallas police had orders to change the charge , no mention of conspiracies . after all j edgar hoover had already told rfk about 2 hours after jfks shooting that THEY HAD THEIR MAN , HE WAS IN THE CATEGORY OF A NUT . oswald was only at the police station a few minutes at that stage and they were still trying to ascertain who he was . so late that evening the fbi receiving a non carcano bullet would be a problem . if you check you will find there is a hour discrepency between agents delivering the bullet and the fbi ballistics guys saying they took possession of it . its just my thought now as we cant really prove it . but rather than a bullet being planted say by ruby or another on the gurney it may be the case that the fbi in a panic just substituted the bullet they received with a test carcano bullet fired through nothing more than cotton wadding . and that would explain why there was virtually no damage to the bullet aside from a little flattening at the base . then they have a carcano bullet and as it was fired by the rifle in question the markings matched . its win win for j edgar .

@@fobrien1 There is a far more plausible, as well as credible explanation for the bullet in question; that which has been adequately demonstrated by SBT, which consigns all the tales of a "planted" bullet, (regardless of planter) to the category of a silly cartoon. Fobrien1 is at it again. He never learns, as he fails (again) to to expound on the meaning of the alleged inconsistencies, discrepancies, deficiencies...anomalies, he obsessively digs up; and fails also at explaining how any of those affect the final outcome. To do any of that, one needs to advance their own coherent theory of the crime. But there fobrien1 comes up empty again. Folks should keep in mind that Inconsistencies, discrepancies, unanswered questions, investigative shortcomings, etc. linger at the close of many cases, even simple traffic accidents. However, the preponderance of the evidence should always override such anomalous elements. This is why Oswald-alone is well-founded, decisive and correct. Cliff Notes version: Every last thing fobrien1 has ever posted on YT about the JFK case is insignificant, and can be safely ignored.

It fell from a shallow wound in Connally's leg.

True-Blakey does not represent the conspiracy side well at all.

Vern Pascal It’s because he really doesn’t believe anything he’s saying. And he’s right not to. His theory is total garbage. The Mafia was used by the actual people responsible for planning and covering up the crime.

@@Chauncey-Holt -Yes..like it said in JFK-Could the mob wreck the Autopsy"? "Change the Parade Route" etc.

Vern Pascal correct

@@Chauncey-Holt Vern is just another uninformed conspiracy kook that spins conspiracy kook horse shit that is over 50 years. After all these years, it still stinks.

Outstanding post. Mr Brehm was on the drivers side of the limo. I believe he stated that a piece of JFKs skull landed on the grass.

Yes, without checking, I'm sure that was Brehm. There are a number of eye witnesses who could describe the... characteristics... (for want of a better word) of the head wound, who were never called to or deposed by the WC. In a proper trial, all these witnesses would have been called by Oswalds defence. And the prosecution would have had to show how and why this "Mass Hallucination" (that caused nearly 200 people to go charging toward the picket fence area to try and catch the shooter, including a Police outrider who got half way up the Grassy Knoll on his motorcycle before his vehicle decided it wasn't going to play...) happened. But of course, since there was never going to be any trial, any evidence that a defence lawyer might have used was just discarded. It's really easy to win a case when you are the prosecutor, there is no defence, and you also happen to be the judge. The Warren Commission could and should have done a better, proper, job. (And that applies to the HSCA as well.)

yes brehm was on the drivers side of elm or to jackies left on the edge of the grass . brehm said the shots he heard came from the direction of the depository . however brehm was problematic . i mean i believe he was honest , but an honest person can be wrong . or he was right that atleast some shots came from the rear , which i have no doubt . brehm asked (recorded on film by mark lane ) if he saw the affect of the shot to jfks head , he replied yes . when asked in affect what he saw he replied that he saw a piece of jfks head fly rearwards and leftwards towards him and land by curb where he and his young son . he can be seen saying this on youtube either in a single video interview or in mark lanes rush to judgement from which the interview came . jfk had passed the newmans and zapruders position , and was nearly at the knoll steps , brehm was all the way back up elm , approximately opposite the stemmons sign on the left side of elm . i would say that conservatively brehm was 30 feet to jfks left rear . that is the problem . officially a bullet entered the rear of jfks head sending brain / blood and skull FORWARDS , yet here is brehm saying that he watched a piece of jfks head fly all that way to the left rear . now lone nut advocates will say that brehm took issue with lane , in that he felt that lane tried to make it look as tho he said the shots came from the knoll . lane didnt do that . what lane did was to show that while it does seem a shot or shots came from the rear of jfk that there is also evidence that tends to show a frontal shot may have struck jfk . brehm never disputed that he said he saw a piece of jfks head fly to the left rear over quite a distance and land at his feet , he couldnt ITS ON FILM . lone nut advocates wont even address this , as to do so would mean they have to attack the credibility of their own witness . so its best for them to ignore it .

the warren commission , clark panel , hsca were not put together to perform proper investigations . earl warren had refused to chair the commission , until lbj told him in effect HE HAD TO if he didnt it could mean ww3 . very quickly warren told his fellow commissioners that he didnt want an investigation , that he wanted to simply review the fbi report . russell also didnt want to sit on the commission . lbj told him in essence it wont take long just review the fbi report . of course it ended up taking many months . the clark panel was really put together to counter garrisons investigation . the hsca started out as an honest investigation . when it became apparent that they were actually looking like they would do a proper job that is when the problems started . sprague and stokes etc were replaced , and blakey came in . he basically dropped his pants and bent over for the cia . the cia had control over what cia people were called and if they were called at all , and if called they controlled what they were questioned about . the warren commission via specter lied about the position of the BACK wound and falsely placed it on the upper right neck . the clark panel lied about the head wound entry location , they pushed it 4 to 5 inches higher up to the crown of the head , because the autopsy / warren EOP location was too low a wound to have come from the 6th floor window . dr humes vehemently protested this saying THERE NEVER WAS ANY WOUND IN THE CROWN AREA OF THE HEAD . the vehement protestations of the very man that performed jfks autopsy fell upon deaf ears . the hsca went along with the above lie . they took testimony from bethesda witnesses who told them that jfk had a large wound in the back of his head . they sealed away those testimonies for a minimal of 50 years . they then added to their lie about the head and their sealing away of testimony that contradicted them by lying further about these witnesses , they states that all bethesda witnesses contradicted the parkland witnesses and agreed with the autopsy findings . LIES , they said jfk had a gaping wound in the back of his head jjust as parkland staff had said . 2 of these witnesses were fbi agents , they have shown us by attacking the lies that they were honest . they were sibert and oneil , you can see interviews with them on youtube . their report stating that the bullet that struck jfks BACK had no exit point and their statements about jfk having a gaping wound on the back of his head were kept from us . sealed away or buried . but now we have them . the ARRB had a panel also . to a man they were warren commission supporters , i wonder how they got on that panel ? lol . they said in essence to members of their staff if you find anything conspiratorial WE DONT WANT TO SEE IT . but a lot of information was released by the ARRB but much remained sealed .

@@fobrien1 But remember 30 feet isn't far. It's ten yards. It's five men laid down head to toe... his position was probably one of the best suited to judge the direction of the shots from the sound. As you say, he was close enough for part of the President's head to land at his feet. Whatever else anyone might think of Mark Lane, and God knows he's had his detractors (How DARE he contradict the official story so soon after the death of the President! Think of Jackie and the kids!!!) he advocated for the man accused of the crime of the century having the same defence as any living suspect would have under the same circumstances. One of the most ironic complaints about him is that he made the evidence fit his case... Really?... I'm surprised DPD and the FBI didn't try to hire him on the spot when they heard that.

The last time the Government held documents and it took 75 years to find out the truth was...The little-told story of how the U.S. government (FBI) poisoned alcohol during Prohibition with deadly consequences.

Perhaps records were concealed because possibly Kennedy bore a child by some other woman. I don't know what that would have any baring in the assignation but to protect the good name of Kennedy and those of his child. Who knows??

@@johntodd8854 when the documents were first sealed some people thought it meant that there was evidence that the Soviets were involved since Oswald had defected to the Soviet Union so the public might demand retaliation that could result in a nuclear war but those emotions would subside by the times 75 years had passed. But others believe it’s a red herring issue done in an attempt to lead people to that theory so that they would not come up with a theory that was true. I believe that the Soviets were not involved. If Oswald was indeed a patsy then it was very dangerous to use him & risk nuclear war. If elected, RFK was going to use his office to get to the bottom of it. If RFKs murder was also a conspiracy then IMHO it was the same ppl who killed JFK.

Oswald had absolutely no connection with shooting - what the hell are you wittering on about..the bullet that blew jfk's rear head off came from the front and low.

@@naradaian People often forget that JFK was wearing an extensive back brace. IMHO Oswald might have fired shots but that doesn’t eliminate a conspiracy. If you watch the Zapruder film frame by frame & account for the back brace the fatal shot might have come from behind, whether or not fired by Oswald. Witnesses indicate more than one person in the School Book Repository. Regardless, Oswald’s issues, whether or not real, were documented to the point that he should have been on the list of ppl visited by either FBI or Secret Service & prohibited from being anywhere near the President’s motorcade route that day. That was standard procedure even in 1963. Of that had happened maybe another patsy would’ve been set up.

A trial was done and is on KZfaq. They found that Oswald was the lone assassin.

@@saffronsworld1508 Nope... every trial has ended up a hung jury.

That's a joke, right?

Showtime did conduct a mock trial with the participation of two major attorneys Vincent Bugliosi of Manson Fame and Jerry Spence. Extensive actual witness

1. No actual trial would ever be done. It is considered what is known as a "moot point" in the law, since Oswald is dead. 2. There was a mock trial done, as was mentioned by others, but that was a farce, as it was conducted ridiculously. Plus, only with the witnesses who agreed to take part and were probably paid to be there (no one was subject to answering a subpoena). The outcome was correct, of course. Oswald was the only person who had anything to do with the assassination. Spence's arguments were almost as stupid, crazy, baseless, and nonsensical as those Blakey is offering here.

And at the same time, an SS agent on the rear left of the follow-up can be seen leaning over to see the firecracker that he thought someone had thrown against the side of the limo.

Oswald did not fire the headshot. OBVIOUSLY. Have you NOT seen the Zapruder film or are you blind?

Zapruder film proves fatal shot came from behind. Frame 313 - you will see the blood and brain matter exiting the front of JFK's head along with the 3rd bullet that then impacted the inside of the limo windshield and was found on limo floor. FRAME 313.

@@bens.664, obviously you are blind, because the photo evidence including Zapruder film clearly proves all 3 bullets came from the direction of the 6th floor depository.

"Oswald pulled the trigger twice and yet fired three bullets": Is that supposed to make sense????

Best books on the possible LHO/CIA connection? I always wondered if his time in the USSR was spywork.

@@cheezoncrack1 LHO was sent undercover into the Soviet Union to gain Communist credentials so to speak, so he could possibly get to Castro with with the monkey serum developed by Dr. Oshner from the Oshner clinic in New Orleeans. LHO was definitely a CIA operative, no question about it.

sam holland, thank you i want more infor on sam now railroaders are good witnesses. and 3attempts to kill him ha

The explanation of the smoke which shouln't have come from smokless powder is that the rifle had beeh in storage and was oiled up, so the smoke came from the oil in the barrel, Only one shot was fired.

@@bernardedwards8461 No that is absurd because they heard the report and saw smoke emanating from the stockade fence. Amazing how some people will say absolutely any crazy thing other than denying the obvious. At least one shot from the Grassy Knoll that struck JFK in the right temple.

@@vernpascal1531 I dont disagree.

Fletcher Prouty mentions this detail in his interview which is still on youtube.

@J M Not good enough to shoot Magic Bullets and Neurospasms..No one has ever done that before or after...

Using a junk rifle, by anyone's standards , with a scope out of aliment no less ! What a ludicrous group of puppets on this stage ! Fascinating they can actually find anyone still believing this nonsense. Everything this first speaker mentions and tries to promote as truthful evidence has substantial evidence against it. This poor lemming acts as if there has never been good solid evidence to the contrary. ...Is he a deceitful old fool or simpzly a ignorant fool ? Is that the premise of this talk . I wonder what his family thinks of him...lol

Easy shot. Oswald could have hit JFK with a slingshot.

Having fired 10, rounds from a 6.5 Carcano locked in a bench rest, 3 friends one a gunsmith, a Carcano in excellent condition pristine rifling, and at 25 yards it never placed 2 bullets within 6 inches of any other shot. The further away the greater the inaccuracies. Oswald might have actually score a hit, but only one. Then Hale Boggs, disappeared on a campaign flight assisting another politician in Alaska, no wreckage has ever been found. Hale Boggs was the dissenting vote on the Warren Commission findings.

Nope, not with that POS gun.

Johnny Rosselli

Huh?

Bill Bonanno claimed in his book “Bound by Honor” that Mafioso Johnny Roselli told him (Bonanno) that he (Roselli) shot Kennedy from a storm drain in Dealey Plaza. Gianni Russo tells the same story in a “VladTV” KZfaq video.

@@denniswatts4658 he’s full of it

You are absolutely correct👍🏼

Oswald was connected to the CIA etc.. who the hell else could have set him up to be the patsy.

To answer your question: the "government" is a twofold answer. States have their laws, and the federal governments laws Trump theirs. BOTH pursue investigational are required to do so

In this case anyone investigating it has a conflict of interest.

@@rusty3968, not really. Since Lincoln, the federal government is no longer subject to the state. Which is why the federal government demands two senators from every state every session. Prior to this, if the state didn't like what the federal government was doing, they wouldn't send senators so that nothing could pass through. (Yes, both unconstitutional and in violation of the Treaty of Paris, but Lincoln wasn't really interested in either.)

Allen Dulles, fired 3 weeks earlier, after a plot to assassinate Kennedy was foiled in Chicago that was exactly the same as the Dallas plot.

I have a problem with the fact that much of the evidence and information had and is still being held or has been "lost," Kennedy's brain or what was left out of it, for example. I also have a problem with the magic bullet theory and the greatly unemphasized implication that if the magic bullet theory is not reasonable, there follows with certainty that there was another involved (definition of conspiracy).

Those are a couple of good points. Here's another big problem regarding the Assassination and the Warren Commission. It's common knowledge that the feds destroyed Oswald's note a couple weeks before the killing by Agent Hosty. Hosty always maintained that the note was innocuous" If you don't quit bothering my wife I'll take this to a Higher Authority". Agreed if that was what was said.. You can't blame Hosty. But about like everything in this Crazy Kennedy Assassination Story there is a whole other side. Secretary Nancy Fenner of the Dallas Field Office said she saw the note and Oswald had talked about blowing up the place. Now that's a huge discrepancy. Why would the local Secretary lie? And so blatantly lie? Because if what she said is true then Hosty, Shanklin the Head Of The Dallas Office and Hoover should have been prosecuted for destruction of evidence and not doing anything about Oswald in the 2 weeks before the Assassination. Even if Hosty was telling the truth and he might well have, then Shanklin and Hoover should have been held accountable to some degree by The Warren Commission, and nothing was done in the most important murder investigation in their History.

Oswald was obviously the only shooter... It is the question of who trained and paid Oswald that has been kept very very secret Hint: KGB and DGI

I agree.

@@vernpascal1531 Supposing the note was innocuous, why would they have destroyed it? Makes no sense.

How could Oswald, "live" as to answer the Warren Commission wrong pressentation. His lawyer would have torn them all apart. Hardy nothing would stand in court. Oscald is innocent till proven guilty

Oswald fired 3 shots from the 6th floor of the TSBD. They found 3 shells there and the murder weapon. How many shells did they find behind the stockade fence?

The clip for the Carcano rifle only held 4 rounds of ammunition...According to the police who found the gun, they said a round was chambered but not fired....The clip for this Italian rifle would’ve fallen off after the last(4th) round was chambered but it was on the weapon when found... which means it had to have been reinstalled before hiding it....If an assassin is going to do this, reinstall the clip, why not pick up the three spent cartridges as well...it looks more like a staged sniper’s nest

@@roberthussey595 Oswald kept his rifle in the Paine's garage. When did the conspirators remove the Carcano rifle from that garage? Who were they? This is your big chance.

@John Deagle ... before Oswald arrived at the Paine residence on the 21st...

100%

@@rickjensen2833 yeah 100% wrong

I strongly disagree. I think it’s very clear from the Zapruder film that they were shot at the same time by the same bullet. They both react together and it’s so clear it baffles me when people say they can’t see it. You can also see from the motion of JFK’s head on the fatal shot that it comes from directly behind him as the right side exit wound lines up with the SS car. Hickey shot him with the AR15 by mistake when he was preparing to return fire at the 6th floor window. That’s why they rushed the car off for cleaning, the AR15 was never tested, all footage that would show the SS car at the Moment of impact was destroyed. You try and find any footage of the headshot with the follow up car in the frame - you can’t because they destroyed it all to protect Hickey.

@@Modelo118 but they found THREE shells on the 6th floor, so that Hickey shot would be FOUR shots and most of the witnesses said they heard 3.

they noted a large EXIT wound and not that obviously faked neat little entry wound. The throat wound was also from the front, so that means people at the highest levels of government tampered with, destroyed evidence, and forged photographs. There are no shortage of witnesses that prove this. Paul Connor, Dr Crenshaw, etc. Also, as world famous forensic pathologist Dr Wecht noted, there are more grains and bullet fragments visible in the xray of John Connally's wrist and forearm than could have possibly came from that pristine, undamaged bullet that someone planted on a stretcher at Parkland Hospital. The US is being controlled by gangsters that we never elected and make all these illegal decisions in secret without our knowledge, consent, or approval. As Edward Snowden revealed to the world, they are still running the show and have no regard for the law or the Constitution. We are still being run by gangsters. Trump, whether you like him or not, knew about their existence and wouldn't do what they told him to. That is why there was a viscous , unrelenting assault on Trump even before he beat that vile pig/puppet Hillary and that attack continues to the present.

"They need him to he the only one": And you need him not to be the only one so you can have your beloved conspiracy theory and fun mystery. It is interesting, though, so I don't blame you.

I disagree facts on first guys side

Lost there sharpness what has that got to do with the facts?

When ever something odd or different that harms others all's you have to do to find the guilty is look for those that had something to gain. Oswald had nothing to gain. He died. Left his wife a widow. His children without a father. Dulles was fired by Kennedy. He got revenge. Johnson became President without even running for President. It was a coupe de ta .

@@PJ-uu5ef Dulles had Kennedy killed.

@@realitychannelwithtomparos8238 I am sure he was at the table when this murder was planned. I just think of who had something to gain from his death. The names LBJ,Dulles,Hoover,Organized Crime,the people they were trying to drill for oil around Cuba. The people wanting to stay in Vietnam. This murder took a lot of people to cover up. So the FBI,CIA,Secret Service had to have some part also. It wasn't one person.

Thus we know what tune you are dancing to, don't we?

really your 5yr old? i guess your point is the facts are obvious i sure hope your 5yr old doesn't know crap about the subject

The 1982 rebuttal of the HSCS acoustic investigation has now been proved to be wrong, therefore Blakey won the argument here, although he didn't do a very good job.

First off people say the film was altered. When I ask them was it the original or one of the 3 first day copies, all I get is crickets from them. Answer: None of the films were altered. JFK's head does indeed go forward at frame 312. The head is propelled forwards on impact 2.5 inches in less than 1/18th second. 85% or the visible blood spatter is forwards of the rear of the head. The head is also pushed down on impact At frame 313 we see him appear to go backward. Take in mind he had bad back problems and was wearing a very confining back brace designed to keep him upright. This is the "back and to the left effect" you see in frame 313. All ballistic evidence leads to Oswald's rifle. Of which was found on the sixth floor with his prints on it.

@@ronaldsimmons7638 On one hand I truly believe LHO was the lone gunman and the official story is correct but there will always be questions. The past 20 years I've realized there's alot of myths and things that were just not true that has diminished conspiracies in my opinion. It's so hard not to fall in that trap of everything is a cover up or that the Cia has all these people out here lying and spreading misinformation cause that's just not the case. I still think there's more to the story and could probably be things that we don't even know about or that were ever documented from that fateful day. The zapruder film Idk if it's been altered but there are missing frames and it doesn't show the limo briefly stopping that we all know it did for whatever reason. The first man to work with the zapruder film Dino even said that the film he saw was different and he worked with the film for the Cia photo imaging department to make briefing boards. He is a very reliable witness and I found his interviews fascinating. Just so many strange incidents happened that day and afterwards that one must entertain the idea of a conspiracy. I don't know what happened,I mean you have people who actually believe that the driver shot him lmao,it's rediculous after a certain point. Wish Connelly or Mrs Connelly would of let those bullet fragments get taken out cause that could of been huge but of course that didn't happen. I'll tell you someone that interests me is Jack Dougherty. I do believe there could be alot more to him than we will ever know but that's just an opinion.

@@mrsinister8943 Actually I don't believe the cia has people out there spreading mis-infomation. It's actually the conspiracy authors doing that. For years Oliver Stone and others have claimed the body was removed illegally. Not true according to Texas law gave Judge Theran Ward the authority to conduct an inquest, as defined in Chapter 49 .01.(2) of the Code as ' an investigation into the cause and circumstances of a death of a person, and a determination, made with or without a formal Court hearing, as to whether the death was caused by an unlawful act or omission .' Under 49.05.(5) of the Code, Ward also had the following authority 'A Justice of the Peace may direct the removal of the body from the scene of death or move any part of the physical surroundings of a body only after a law enforcement agency is notified of the death and a Peace Officer has conducted an investigation..'

@@ronaldsimmons7638 The body was removed illegally. The coroner in Parkland, Dr. Earl Rose, tried to prevent the Secret Service from removing the body

@@ronaldsimmons7638 I watched a 1st generation copy of the Zapruder Film when it was first released to the general public. The film that has been circulating the internet is an altered copy/copies.... There are frames missing from the original. That limo came to a stop for at least 2 seconds. The president was hit in the front of the head, then the driver started to slowly move forward..... As for that magic bullet, The president was struck in the throat from the front, as Governor Connally was turning to him, then yelled, ''They're trying to kill us.'', while still holding his hat in his right hand,so no that bullet didn't hit him. Next he (Connally) was hit by at least one but possibly two bullets.. The limo was shipped back to Dearborn, Michigan to the Ford Rouge Facility, where the windshield (which had a bullet hole in it) was replaced, along with any of the interior that contained usable evidence...

@Ken Amaro: What you described does not align with the established facts of the case, so it "eliminates" nothing.

@@stddisclaimer8020 the "facts" were described by the Dr's at Parkland who were in the trauma room with the body of the president. They described the rear and lower portions of the presidents head as a " fist sized" blow out ( an exit wound ). This is what people who treated gunshot wounds stated. How many gunshot wounds have you treated? They were there, where you?

@@kenamaro3942 You've got it all wrong, bucko. Four out of five Parkland ER doctors testified that while treating the President, they saw nothing which contradicts the autopsy findings. They were there, and you were NOT. Why was the wound to your own head left untreated? Could it be the reason you leave such foolish comments?

Nobody wants to publish the truth. There's still people involved that are alive. Just for the fact the files are confident for 50 years tells the whole story.

Files knows a lot but he is very clearly telling someone else’s story. They don’t grab a driver to be a shooter at the last minute for the biggest job they’ll ever do. They wouldn’t leave evidence like a murder weapon hanging around for his cousin to shoot at birds with. His story is implausible. But I do think it’s someone’s story.

Marchello, Chicago mob, etc could do it... but not cover it up as happened. LBJ. Hoover, etc. could and did cover their @ss on this. Files himself on tape stated he did not know everything... just that he was to take the shot if JFK not obviously fatally wounded. Mob was double-crossed by Kennedy family, Johnson was facing RFK trying to get rid of him, and Hoover faced mandatory retirement. After JFK is dead LBJ is prez and reverses Vietnam plan, Hoover gets exemption and stays in place. Mob no longer getting prosecuted by RFK, etc says to me only a half dozen folk needed.Not a hard assassination to get away with IF you have LBJ & Hoover blocking investigations. "Why Ruby?" certainly points at need to shut Oswalds mouth.

Probably no one picked files out of available pics an videos to prove he was actually there. He in prison don't have to worry about a Mafia hit. Many researchers videos don't mention him so files words probably has no evidence to back up his words

uuhh to my recollection , they did'nt show the killing of kennedy until 1975 on Geraldo Rivera's show .. i think your time table is off

Jack Ruby was a friend to many of those Police Officers at that station. He would bring donuts & coffee to the Officers at the station to help with the relationship with his strip club. He was a regular visitor there at the station. That is why Jack Ruby was able to enter the station & walk freely among them. Those allegations of mob ties are unfounded. The people close to Ruby say he killed Oswald because he killed the President of The United States. I believe those people because they have no reason to lie. Jack Ruby would die in prison & NEVER say anything about the MOB being involved. Instead focus attention on what happened at Parkland Hospital / Bethesda / Warren Commission. That is where all the cover ups happen. Not in Jack Juby's cell.

@@ag4allgood Yeah, but how about all the FBI, CIA, etc. that had gathered there. Ruby was not their buddy. I hold fast to my opinion that it was bizarre to let him into the station that day.

@@barefootdesigns It was a FRICKIN Police Station ! Not a CIA / FBI holding cell ! Get that part thru your head. Ruby had access were others didn't. Its your opinion that is fine. Its wrong though ! Ruby was in with the press & fit in with those officers plain & simple. Ruby was a familiar face there at that station.

@@ag4allgood Well yer right there,but please don't repeat nonsense that he wanted to spare Jackie a trial. He knew Oswald prior to the Assassination, and was neck deep involved in the conspiracy..as he said in statements and a letter after he was in Jail.

The plot was designed to make it look as if it was an aberration, when in fact it was a continuance of Govt. There are so many basic obvious things that were not done, far too many for coincidence, and so many really good witnesses ignored, that if you only look at the surface... sure it sounds like a Lone Communist Nut did it.

And too many suspicious deaths of people involved in the case to put down to coincidence. But those who desire the Official Fiction will always find a way to make an elephant hang from a cliff with its tail tied to a daisy.

@@david-spliso1928 The so-called "suspicious" death list of witnesses is entirely bogus. We are able to demonstrate the point, witness by witness. Try it. (Feel lucky, punk?)

"And too many suspicious deaths of people involved in the case to put down to coincidence.": Are you so sure?? This came from a sensationalistic author who has an obvious financial motive.

Hi, just before the shot to the head, his head goes forward a little

Excellent post Kathy!

The zapruda film has been doctored,my opion he was shot once from behind n once from in front

@@neil2550 they showed the film in slow motion and it look like his head goes forward a few inches before it goes back, think he was shot twice in the head,

@@rickraybourn7456 I'll have to take a closer look,,I thought that zapruda film had been altered in some way,prior to anyone seeing it,as LIFE magazine,had bought the rights to it ,,from some astounding $$$ ,,n didn't show it ,because ,,it probably been doctored before they got their hands on za Film?

colin (agent hickey did it ) mclaren ? . please . there was first a book and then a tv documentary , the book was mortal error , the documentary based on the book was THE SMOKING GUN . the author / publisher of the book were sued not once but three times , one was by hickey . they settled all law suits . hickey thought he could then die in peace and his family could rest easy from that BS . after he died that BS was resurrected in that god awful documentary . if what they said about hickey was true and they could prove it why didnt they do so in a court of law instead of paying out for lawsuits ? .

@@fobrien1 You obviously didn't read the book or see the documentary ! The evidence is there ! Your BLIND ! The trial never went to court because of the money involved & fighting the government ( Secret Service ). Why do you think NO AMERICAN detective would touch what McClaren did ? McClaren being a foreigner can't be threatened or punished like any American would be ! Use your brain. Instead of being a sheep & believe what the government wants us all to believe ! Ballistics tell the TRUTH ! Eye witnesses backup that TRUTH ! Unfortunately so many have passed away.

"You obviously didn't read the book or see the documentary ! The evidence is there ! Your BLIND ! The trial never went to court because of the money involved & fighting the government ( Secret Service )"@@ag4allgood let me see here if i understand you alan . you appear to be saying that they HAD PROOF that hickey shot jfk , proof that would have won them all 3 law suits . HOWEVER they decided not to go to court with all this case winning proof and instead decided to hand out a lot of cash in 3 lawsuits ? .

​i am the reincarnation of jesus, im serious .,.

@@fobrien1 Witness the ongoing childish copy n' paste job of the original comment. Fobrien1 wears his name tag inverted so he can look down and recall to whom he's speaking.

Indeed.

Everything I’ve seen leads me to think the back of the head cratered inward and the front blew forward and out. The fractures are visible on the X-ray and people describe a bone hinge in back that witnesses say is being covered by the scalp being stretched over it. Why they chose not to photograph without the scalp stretched over the bone damage as well, that I don’t know, but the X-rays and descriptions cover it. They say they had trouble measuring the skull deficit because fractures radiating from it confused the matter. That don’t show these radiating fractures on the drawings. It seems like an effort to simplify the trajectory that backfired because it excludes effects of the entry wound that all the witnesses were impressed by.

Wrong … 1. No bullets were found other than Oswald’s. 2. No other shooters were ever identified. 3. Witnesses agreed there were 3 shots. Oswald’s gun fired 3 shots. There were 3 casings there to prove the point.

How did they "see or hear" the fatal knoll shot when that didn't even exist? Kenendy was hit twice from behind, so forget about a bullet throwing his upper-body back like that, that's a joke.

Someone shooting from the knoll is crazy. That means there was a shooter on ground level, amongst the crowd and shooting from metres from where Zapruder was standing. In the grassy knoll scene in JFK movie they had a lot of practical problems setting up that shot. There was a sign and obstacles which made it impossible for a gunman to track the limo at all, it just appear from behind a sign. The special effects guys also tried a number of rifles to try and get the smoke people claimed they say and smelled. They said none of them put out any smoke, so they ended up using special effects to fake that part. Dealey plaza is small, there were people everywhere. Having a gunman just on ground level in a place like that is all the proof anyone should need to know that's crazy.

Carlos Bringuier and Petr Deriabin figured it out in 1963 🇺🇸

@@kxkxkxkx The DPD had the case solved in a matter of hours.

@Mark Delgado: There is no evidence whatsoever of an AR-15 being fired that day in Dealey Plaza.

RFK figured it out back in 1964, and the conclusion wasn't anything like the Warren.

"Howard Donahue figured it out back in 1992, and in 2017 the final piece of the horrific truth was revealed": Yes, horrific in the sense that all these CT people have been the dupes of people like Mark Lane, etc. You must feel like a bit of a fool.

"When the crooked investigate and debate the crooked the truth is never known.": When the ignorant make these kinds of comments, then their ignorance is always shown.

@@peterfraser9070 my comment is truthful and accurate. Wake up brown nose.

Robert Baker. Neither Humes nor Boswell was a forensic pathologist. Only Pierre Finck was. And he showed up half an hour after it started. Hmmm.

@@howieduin915 and by his own testimony at the clay shaw debachle did next to nothing.

Your claims are weak and unconvincing.

@@peterfraser9070 they are a group of facts not claims, how unconvincing they are has more to do with your bias than anything else.

Can you expand on why he made sense the way he spun those "facts" around? I'd love to hear that.

Because at that time no one new who shot at the general let alone who Oswald even was it came out after he shot Kennedy simple as tat

@@austenspriggs904 Blame it on Oswald! He is dead anyway

@@narancauk come on mate all the evidence points to him conspiracy dreamt up Oswald was nuts end of so get over it mate theres no argument with me about its case closed before u reply I've spent 40 years goin threw every bit of released info talked to 6 people who were there on the day each hearing 3 shots from book depository building as well as the 87percent of people in daily plaza who only heard 3 shots from book depository so how much research have you done

@@austenspriggs904 I understand that when you make noises in a surrounding like that you have echoes. Them to hear only 3 shots is admirable. They must be experts in urban combat .I bet they said ''3 shots from Manlicher Carcano 6.5mm''.Hahahahahahahahahahah

@@narancauk mate theres no point you and I getting into a pointless argument about it I can tell you just will never get it and by your reply it's like I'm corresponding with an infant so get ya last we dig in so I never have to reply to you ever again

LHO was in a Gov program sending defectors to the USSR. Russians aren't stupid. They knew he wasn't a defector. Let him stay a while and sent him home.

xanadu blakey bent over and dropped his pants for the cia . he let them choose who if any of their people would testify , and he let them decide what they could and could not be asked . blakey was not seeking the truth , the hsca under him lied and deceived as much as and more than the warren commission . so its hard to have any faith at all in anything blakey says . and after all his committee concluded essentially what the warren commission concluded , which was that oswald killed jfk alone . yet blakey has spent his life since then saying the mod did it .

Oswald was recruited by the KGB in Japan and trained in Russia and given a KGB wife 🇺🇸

@@fobrien1 fobrien1 lies and deceives with his every post. He lives for conspiracy. But he and his ilk cannot find one in over 58 years. Maybe another century or two might help. Suddenly the much imagined plot might, in the year 2120, come crawling forth from the fever swamp. You think?

@@81overon LHO had zero connection to any government program. There no proof of that in 58+ years, and there never will be. You just need it to be true. You imagine that it is, to get your conspiracy fix.

marina has been denying everyone interviews for a while now.

Thanks for clearing up everything

Zapruder film shows Kennedy's head initially move forward as his brain blows out the front, then a neural reflex back jerking of his body.

@@baxterscruggs1716 My pleasure.

"Everyone heard two shots which came one quickly after the other. How is that explained?" Dealey Plaza had lots of echoes. Not "everyone" heard the shots as you describe. "How is the bullet trajectory explained from low on Kennedy's shoulder travelling upward to exit his throat." It's because he was leaning forward. This is easily shown in sketches of the position of his body. "How is it possible for Connolly to hear the bullet that shot through Kennedy's neck and then hit his (Connolly's ) shoulder?" Huh? We know that Connally was reacting to the shot. "It seems that the acoustic analysis suggesting grassy knoll shooter was discredited." Yes it was.

Don't forget, the Z Film shows it was 5 point something seconds between the 2nd and 3rd shots. The guys on the 5th floor right below Oswald said they heard 3 evenly spaced shots. Others said this too. The bullet entered just above the shoulder- yes, you guessed it, above the exit. That bullet was proven to have come from Oswald's rifle, we know his rifle was fired from the 6th floor, how the heck do you think it could have entered low and gone up? Connolly said said he didn't hear - or more correctly - he said he doesn't remember hearing the shot that hit him.

Upward angle slighns with many researchers that a Mafia sniper was in storm drain culvert right in front of limo when driver slowed way down then last fatal shot. Angle from storm drain surely looks very possible for last awful shot not even 15 ft away. Read many comments where you see on some of film footage a motorcycle cop points towards storm drain area as limo sped away to hospital

@@davidwilliams4498 i can't picture how it could be done from storm drain though. It would have to be low under the curb ...don't know.

@Derek Chiasson The film matches the witness testimony and the autopsy. Plus there was no technology to alter 8mm film at the time

@@johncooper7663 The guy who made the copies of the film or who handled the film (Dino Brugioni?) stated on the record the version that aired on Geraldo was not the original they saw that day in November 1963. He said without doubt the head shot was altered in his view.

@@PhillyJohnny that would have been impossible because there was no technology to alter 8mm film

Read Josiah Thompson's new book Last Second In dallas...I'm unsure of the acoustics myself and haven't finished it,but what he does is totally disprove the 2 main Scientists utilized to bolster the Single Assassin Theory. Guinn, and Alvarez.

@@vernpascal1531Vern does love his conspiracy

Sound sa lot like someone's story that they suddenly came up with 30 years after the fact as some kind of revenge against their former colleagues that they never did like. You're a sucker.

And the 3 spent shells found was from a 7.65 mouser NOT a 6.5

This video was made for dis information purposes.. We ALL KNOW JFK was shot twice from the front and once in the back at MINIMUM.. Another round hit a concrete curb. Another round ran into the grass and was found That's FIVE shots at minimum.

Peddle your lies somewhere else.

Because you say so.

You are misinformed.

@@jeffclark7888He is BADLY misinformed.

They have conspiracy theorist there all the time.

My God that is a ignorant statement .Blakey was the head man of the HSCA

KENNEDY WAS HIT IN THE BACK , THROAT AND HEAD 2 X ,., THATS 4 SHOTS ,, CONNOLLY POSSIBLY STRUCK 2 TIMES , THE LIMO GLASS 1 SHOT AND IM SURE I SAW ONE GLANCE OFF THE BACK OF THE TRUNK UPPER LEFT END BEHIND MRS KENNEDY ...AND LETS NOT FORGET THE GUY WAS GRAZED ON THE CHEEK BY THE UNDERPASS ... THERE HAD TO BE AT LEAST 3 TEAMS OF SHOOTERS AND POSSIBLY A FEW OTHER CRACKPOTS BEHIND THE BURGOLA JUST BEHIND ZAPRUDER , A GRASSY KNOLL SHOPTER , DAL -TEX SHOOTER .. ECT ... LOTS OF KILLERS IN THAT SMALL AREA YET FEW WITNESSES SQUEALING

Funny how that is rarely discussed despite clear photographic evidence as well as video testimony from a nurse who was there and clearly saw the damage.

A front end miss from the grassy knoll..into the grass near the manhole..it may still be there.

Pretty sure it ended up in JFK's head.

Update guys. Im in Texas in the Airforce at Sheppard Airforce base. Im going to visit Dealey Plaza for the first time. Super excited. Hope Covid doesn't ruin my chances to go to the 6th floor museum and ask staff where's the 2nd Sniper's nest exihibit.

There right in this case

Here's just another thing. recently Chester Boyers died he was at Bethesda Hospital,lab Technician,anyway he believed the official story OK? Fine,but he was certain of the head wound entrance about an inch to the right of the EOP and above so...if he's correct then the official photos,trajectories are completely wrong.

@@vernpascal1531 Let me get this because Boyers believes this or you say he believes this how would you actually verify he really believes this that would be the end of it the head shot came from the front what do you think people just fell off the turnip truck well you know i know better seems like youre up to your old tricks incomplete info half truths rumors and just flat out lies can be dangerous

@@randyharris3175 -What I was driving at with Boyers was if you believe him and The Autopsy Doctors then The HSCA, and Clark panel were blatant frauds. You want to believe the official story at all costs,so you will believe in wounds no one saw! And vanishing wounds seen by several!

@@randyharris3175 your grammar is awful. I truly believe that anybody that can't formulate proper grammar, most likely doesn't have the capacity for critical thinking or serious research.

Ask yourself why Hale Boggs disappeared on a flight in Alaska, after objecting to the Warren Commission findings, he was not happy with the conclusion, that there was only one shooter.

Maybe you can write one

all these people who think the Warren report is bogus never read all the volumes. ask the people watching who owns a set....zero

@@valdavis4474 What, he "disappeared" years later and you're trying to tie that in?? Get serious.

@James haren: Go float that kind of BS over on the Conspiracy Fever Swamp forum.

@@stddisclaimer8020 not a conspiracy..I wasn't there but from what I understand it happened...I imagine it was because he spent almost 5 years in Indochina in the mid to late 30's with the flying tigers..He was also a member of the Redman and 32* Mason and sat on the board of the "Texas southwestern cattle ranchers association" and if you'll remember your history anybody with connections to China during Mccarthy red scare and after...my grandmother's father and brother was founder and CEO of braniff airlines, Dallas Air motive, grandy's chicken and a litney of other big business at the time..her other brother origionaly an OSS operative then CIA and at that time was running a "battery factory" in coulmbia...if you'll remember initaly it was believed the assination was likely a communist plot..thoes were the first words out of LBJ's mouth..that's why he insisted on taking the oath of office before the plane took off...incase he had to take any action while airborn...when Oswald was taken in they grabbed the 16 year old kid he worked with that gave him rides to work daily and grilled him insisting that this was an assianation plot and they knew he had a part in it...his wife Marina was heavily grilled for info demanding to know who elese was involved in this and they knew it was a soviet action..just before his visit to Chicago the previous week they stopped a man with a rifle, information on the pres. Motorcade and where he would be speaking, money and fake passport...and in Florida they discovered a weekly rate hotel room freshly abandoned by 4 or 5 dominican nationals with weapons..maps of route..cash..selictions of news papers speaking about the pres. Visit..and were actively hunting down these guys up until when Kennedy was shot...part of the failure that day was because the secret service agent Poole was very diluted because of the number of genuine threats that involved potentialy complex plots and there was an abundance of inexperienced agents because many of the veteran ones were shelved in preference to highly vetted young ones because of the supposed discovery of a soviet plot to infiltrate the secret service or marine guard and implant an assain...if these are the beliefs of the people on the ground when this all happened then they had to believe it was bigger than one nut with a gun at least initally...I'm certainly not saying there was any relevance to them looking into my grandfathers death only that it indicated there could be something more at play...neither my mom or grandmother were given any information at all so it may of had nothing to do with Kennedy assianation but I don't know what it could be in relation too if it wasnt...it's a little coincedental...I have no radical conspiracy therioes of any kind..was only stating what I think investigative agencies precieved could be going on in the immediate aftermath of the shooting...not that was infact did happen...I'm certainly not the first person to make the statement others were involved in this besides oswald...ever watch mickey franseze youtube channel or read his book...he former capo of banno crime family and father the highest profile mobster of that time and underboss..he says very matter of factly that the mob facilitated at least some parts of the assianation and that their was an organized plot..Robert Kennedy went to his grave believing trafficante was responsible for his brothers death and even bugged his jail cell and put a CI in place in prison...I'm currently writing a book on my family which includes some explorations of this...I have no reason to lie to you or anyone I'm not making any claims to anything other than a beliefe he wasn't a lone gunner...I like an accedemic argument as much as anybody but your statement was simply inarticulate, obnixious, and frankly an insult to a leader like kennedy who understood the importance of class and social dynamics and discussion..I'm feel bad your so angered about someone commenting and sharing information that's unknown in the community...many people like to hear information then decide what value to give it...trying to suppress the free exchange of ideas and limit discussion to only what you want to hear...and only being willing to listen to something if it supports your position is a very ignorant and unveiled way of operating...it's been what 58 years now...I don't think Kennedy would harbor so much ugliness and anger over his own death as you do...plus he fought against fascists in ww2 who didn't want the free discrimination of ideas and open discussion...I'm sorry if you come from a low class lineage or disenfranchised family but no need to hate of thoes who were players at the highest levels at that time..its natural to question someone but classy educated people ask questions when questioning something not demans for resignations..there's 7.8 billion people out there...comments arnt written just for you to judge...I imagine others here would like to decide for themselves...you might try relations whit the oppsite sex sometime...it will help with all that anger you harbor

@@jamesharen8607 What you've never considered, Mr. Wanker is that: One would think that by now, someone would have come forward in the last 58 years to tell the world about the Great Plot. He or she would become a major figure in world history, not to mention the likelihood of becoming very wealthy. We know that conspiracies usually fail because someone talks or wants money. Watergate burglars were brought down in very short order because a few wanted hush money. Yet, in over 58 years, every single one of so many (thousands)of conspiring lips has remained ever so tightly sealed. Once that is realized, your beliefs become a joke.

@@stddisclaimer8020 you can theroize whatever you like..I'm not a liar and not and conspiracy theroist..who knows why this happened or even if this was related..it came to me first hand from my grandmother who literally never told an out and out lie in her life and was a brilliant, wealthy, well respected woman and sharp as a tack..why ever this happened and I would think it must of been related statistically speaking, it certainly happened..I have no idea why and make no claims to no..but there's certainly no reason to be obxixious or rude..I'm certainly no wanker..I'm a six sigma expert who runs a facility under Raytheon defense systems division and act as a facility millitary liason and carry a security clearances and make the most advanced optics in the world for our millitary and aerospace programs ...I'm certainly not going to be insualted my someone who's so knowledgeable and serious a guy they reference sexualy transmitted disease STD in there handle...I'm sorry your in a place of so much loathing and hostility but try and keep you head up..with the cool classy attitude and swagger ypibr shown here I'm sure there are dozens if not a hundreds of women that would find you interesting and appealing enough to sleep with you if you paid them...trust me it will help with all the pent up aggression..just FYI though you might want to leave out any other references to STD's...although if they had to pick between an STD and your personality, I imagine the std thing would be much more likely to get you somewhere with them..there's condoms for pricks to prevent std's, but I don't think they make them big enough to put a prick like you in..I don't know for sure though...so I should probably message one of your old girlfriends(and by "one" I mean that 1 girlfriend) since she should know, and ask her where she gets thoes realy big condoms that she buys for her new boyfriend...I'm sure because of her job as a transgender escort she has become well versed in STD's...I'll give you one thing though, your not the first b*tch to accuse me of a Big Wanker, but if you ever want to cross the pond and face me you might just be the last...you gonna need to bring something besides your keyboard if you wanna come across as a tough guy where I'm from

@@jamesharen8607 Grandmas, of course, never lie, but they can be mistaken, which yours clearly was in the Kennedy case; where, as I’ve said, no proof of a conspiracy has been forthcoming in over 58 years; and another half-century or more will not help find what never existed in the first place; and no grandma can be of any help. The rest of your comment is a welter of off-topic, discursive blatherings that should see you in a straight jacket, were this not the YT comments section, where loonies such as yourself may let loose with relative impunity. In addition, you've given ample evidence of suffering political paranoia, of your feelings of being helpless, powerless; and of having a rather low level of self-esteem.

Zapruder film was made public immediately by Time Magazine. Reflex reaction backwards was due to neurological nerve then muscle reaction caused by traumatized brain.

@@mikejackson8916 : Actually, I believe it was Life magazine, Z had sold the rights to publish only still photos at that time. The public did not see the film until 1975, on a Geraldo show that featured Robert Groden.

@@Dogheadj the FBI got a copy of the Z film almost immediately and it was part of the evidence reviewed by the Commission. Still photos from the film were made public soon after the assassination.

High velocity full metal jackets are designed to go right through a person.

@@mattsmolinski595 Right . What you see in the zapruder Film is as clear as the nose on yer face. Frontal head shot back and to the left and an exploding bullet. The Radius Bone in the wrist is more dense than skull ..so think about how incredibly stupid The Magic Bullet Theory is, and the mindless Neuromuscular Reaction.

Oliver Stone has put his Combat Boot in the rears of both of them.

Obviously shot from front.

Don't forget.. Jackie was trying to retrieve part of Jack's skull from the truck of the limo..behind THEM. Not helping Agent Hill as the Warren Commission said. Later at the Hospital..she gave one of the doctors the skull fragment.

what about the guys at the bowling alley

You're buying into that story Crenshaw told in his phony book? Come on.

@@peterfraser9070 the parkland doctors do disagree with the bethesda doctors who had no experience with gun shot wounds while the majority of parkland doctors had tons of experience with gunshot wounds. so that has nothing to do with crenshaw and is just the reality of the situation.

@@simonjames1604 So you agree Crenshaw's book is human fecal matter?

​@peterfraser9070 every doctor at Parkland said there was a massive exit wound in the back of Kennedy's head. You're the one who's trying to spout a bullshit story

​@@peterfraser9070name what facts are phony in his book.

Also, Byrd founded the Civil Air Patrol which had a 16yo Oswald as a member. LBJ 's friend owned the building where Oswald worked and "took the shot". People claim Oswald was "a marine". He was a lifelong fuckup who barely lasted before being kicked out. He was a convenient fall guy, but not the master assassin people claim. The Book depository distance, plus wind, plus moving target, plus multiple hits yet he couldn't get General Walker? BS!

Sir, I was in US Army for three years and zeroed my m16 in 1978 while in Germany three rounds in same hole dead center and was in common section, Oswald was in radar, LBJ personal hitman Malcolm Mac Wallace was also on that sixth floor, they found his fingerprint, he graduated from University of Texas, he was also a much better shot than Lee Oswald, Wallace was also once a Marine also and had murdered several people for LBJ. Lyndon Baines Johnson was ambitious, crazy and ruthless, he created the Warren Commission to cover his butt, Lee Oswald was an funky, so was Jacob Rubinstein. You don't know what you are talking about.

Oswald didn't take a shot with that sorry, Lyndon Baines Johnson created the Warren Commision to cover his behind, they had to kill Oswald to shut him up because no man like being exploited, Oswald was much better man than Lyndon Baines Johnson, he back was against the wall, the cop killing was shady also Aliquippa Clemons witnessed it, there were two men at the scene, she was told to be quiet or that she would be hurt, this was about a personal vendetta with Oswald as the fall guy, President Kennedy was setup. LBJ created Warren Commission to cover his butt, David Harold Byrd was awarded several government contacts after LBJ took over the Whitehouse, Bryd also owned Tempco, Lyndon and Bryd made lots of money.

Priceless!!

You'll be their age sooner than you think, if you're not already.

@@jimcole4692 -- I'm 75 and my once 8 cylinder brain now only fires on 2.

Yeah what they blame Bush for everything? No thanks.

@@waltersobchak7275 If you watch the "Z" footage remasterd in 8k. The shot that blows a third of JFK's head off, clearly shows the missle coming from the knoll. 27 eye witnesses, standing on the knoll, all testify they heard the shots from behind them.

@@stephensdygert7600 I don’t doubt that one bit. I just get mad when people go on about the Illuminati. Total BS.

I JUST WATCHED THAT THANKS ITS GOOD WHEN PEOPLE HELP OUT MUCH APPRECIATED

I watched that documentary and while it had some great information it also had alot of information that it considered as fact that is very disputable especially when dealing with the JFK assassination.

Not proven not one iota of proof so therefore you can not make that statement

Randy Harris Really ? No through-and-through hole in the windshield ? (Starvis) No entry wounds in JFK’s throat and temple ? (Perry, Kemp, Chaney, Newman, Kilduff) No smoke seen wafting from the picket fence trees ? (Holland). No knoll gunpowder smell ? (Yarborough, Smith) Stop it, will you ? Just stop it. Thanks.

@@nycsongman9758 yes perry said that but later he said was mistaken they did not turn kennedy over if they had they would have seen the wound in his back what is obvious to me you do not know the facts of this case stop wastiing my time with your bullshit and bullshit it is there was no frontal wound to the presidents neck that is 100 percent no bullet hole from front to back thtough the window. Thats 100 percent

@@nycsongman9758 cant say what these people saw so a puff a smoke if actually seen would automaticaly mean a shooter behind the picket fence no nexus there

And Mostly everyone in Texas either is familiar with guns and gunshots their whole lives, they know exactly how guns sound?

They were appointed by lbj as window dressing. LBJ’s own directive was to go along with hoovers report . In his recruitment if senator Russell, LBJ mentions there is more involved in this assassination. He's referring to Oswalds connections to the soviets and Cuba. That was the lever that shut down a legit investigation, which would be to investigate a possible conspiracy. It's all on tape of lbj and senator Russell as lbj tells Russell he has to serve and do his his patriotic duty to prevent millions dead.

Who's the clown on the left ? Ask Blakey why both Ruchard Soeague and Robert Tannenbaum resigned from their positions with the HSCA .. Ask these dopes , why in Tip O ' Neill book , that Dave Powers had admitted that he had heard shots from in front of the motorcade , but changed his testimony to pacify the Kennedy family.

It is the single bullet theory not not magic bullet theory. Also of the whole thing is so wrong the what is the "right" story? There are only like 30 things that point to Oswald being guilty and after 58 years there is still no proof of a conspiracy. Thank God Oliver stone is coming put with yet another fake movie. Just wait the world needs

@@baxterscruggs1716 100% disagree with you. 1000 things stating the obvious

@@brettrobertson2538 so who killed Kennedy then?

I used to be like you: I assumed the WR was a joke because I had always heard it was - especially after watching the movie JFK. Then I got acquainted with the facts; reading the WR (it didn't bite), watching the witnesses, doctors, etc, THEMSELVES talking. That's how I found out that the grandfather of conspiracy theorists, Mark Lane, for example, started the original conspiracy stories that are the basis for all the subsequent theories that have emerged since the 60's. People like him influenced Oliver Stone's movie. Lane invented the idea of the Magic Bullet and the idea that witnesses saw a 2nd gunman, etc. He's the reason you believe what you believe.

Yep.. It’s called evidence..

Then why is brain matter thrown forward at Frame 312?

Film was doctored before a single soul saw it. Jeez. It's not like they sent it down to the drugstore for processing

@@moragmacgregor6792 People like you undoubtedly prove what I always tell People: Apathy is worse than Ignorance.

I remember seeing a video showing the side rail holdings on the sides of the limonene where agents should have been positioned to have their head in the place of the Presidents head. In that video a agent begins to walk in that line of sight and his supervisor tells him to stand down. I am not talking about behind the car, but on the sides. LBJ has a limo that has them with the security staff being held up by standing on a piece of metal that was likewise not on the President's limo.

that is because the Zapruder film proved that the head shot came from the rear. The brain is bursting out in the front and Kennedy is thrown back because his brain hit his head. (If you look carefully you would also see that Kennedy moved slightley forward and then back.

Shots 2 and 3 are so very close . Could LHO pulled this off alone ? Go back and listen again .Plus so many folks smelled gun powder near the grassy knoll.

If anyone was ever to spend any time shooting with a similar rifle you'll know within a day that the headshot was from in front of JFK. It's really simple physics.

That's true. That's why I always prefer to go directly to the sources as much as possible. I don't take what a conspiracy author or author arguing Oswald acted alone says on face value. They might be honest and telling the truth, but their own bias can unknowingly distort their views, they can leave out facts/details that are against their claims (either on purpose or not), or they even just flat out lie! So I always read directly from the source. I've read nearly every testimony in both the Warren Report and HSCA report (all except people with minor/insignificant roles), the entire Shaw case transcript, and thousands of declassified documents. So far, I haven't found anything that leads to me believe there was a conspiracy. Virtually every claim made by conspiracy theories can be explained. However, I'm still open to the idea there was a conspiracy. I love hearing new claims of evidence of a conspiracy and then looking into it to see what comes up!

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@@grobbs666 Then you have not researched enough. You should listen to E. Howard Hunt's son and the tapes his father gave him. May also want to look into Cord Myer and Jim Marr's book.

@@tamgsmith8077 sounds like you need to do much research buddy. Like maybe look into the reasons why even most honest conspiracy believers don't put any stock into E Howard Hunts sons tapes and claims, nor does their siblings or rest of the family. And Jim Marrs? You are way behind. Crossfire has been utterly and repeatedly debunked for years and years now. So you seem to have some catching up to do since you talk about books over a quarter century old! Once you get up to speed, let me know any further questions you might have, or anything else you might be confused by and I'll help you out!

Um ok. Thank for clearing everything up

@@baxterscruggs1716 your welcome

You are leaving out the bullet hole in JFK's back near the base of his neck. Also you'd have to ignore a great deal of evidence to propose that Connally was stuck by a bullet that missed JFK.

@@Caeruleo Haha Just saying lol

@@patrickjdart9392 "Haha Just saying lol" Mmmkay. In other words, does that mean you're "just saying" that you can't prove any of your claims to be true?

@@Caeruleo No, it means I don't want to debate about something that happened sixty years ago when people already believe the lies that the Warren Commission told. My statement is supported by facts and physics. Have a good day

Huh?

@@MartynCollins Yep! You got it.

You wouldn't recognize truth if it was staring you right in the face.

excellent points raised here . oswald had to leave the 6th floor and run down stairs to the 2nd floor . and oswald must run down every flight of stairs and cross every landing . as you accurately state adams and styles ran to the 4th floor elevator just after the last shot closely followed by dorothy garner . both elevators were now stuck on the 5th floor . so they entered the stairs and ran down . garner stayed on the 4th floor by the stairs entrance . on the 6th and then 5th floors was jack dougherty . he heard the shots , he never heard or saw oswald . oswald has to come down the 5th floor stairs and cross the 4th floor landing in front of garner who said that oswald never passed her . then you have baker and truly running up stairs . truly is a floor ahead of baker . so when baker gets to the 2nd floor truly has already ran up to the 3rd floor . officially as baker reached the 2nd floor oswald has just ran down the third floor stairs , crossed the 2nd floor landing and just gone into the 2nd floor lunchroom a split second before baker sees him . THE PROBLEM ? well in order for that to be true oswald must run past truly on the 3rd floor stairs . but AGAIN truly never saw oswald . so we have dougherty , garner , truly , 3 people that SHOULD have seen oswald running downstairs . and none of them saw oswald . that would infer that oswald never ran down any stairs . then there is adams and styles . so some lone nut advocates aware of the above problem try getting around the above problems by claiming that oswald ran down stairs BEFORE adams and styles did . im afraid thats not possible . oswald has to run across the 6th floor , hide the rifle in the manner it was found , leave the 6th floor , run down to the 5th floor , cross the 5th floor landing , enter the 4th floor stairs and cross the 4th floor landing . there is no way he did all that before adams and styles . this of course is also used to nullify garner . but there is another problem . garner saw truly and baker emerge from the 4th floor stairs probably no more than 20 seconds after the oswald encounter on the 2nd floor . in which case in order for the official line that oswald just ran in to the 2nd floor lunchroom a split second before baker saw him to be true that means that oswald did indeed have to to pass not only garner but also as i said above mr truly . NEITHER HAPPENED . so our lone nut advocate friends then try to assert that garner did not see baker and truly coming up stairs , they say she only saw them coming back down stairs . again thats impossible because it would mean she had to have seem them come out of the 5th floor stairs and on to the 4th floor landing , she saw the opposite , she saw them come out of the 4th floor stairs entrance and run to the 5th floor stairs entrance . one other thing makes it impossible . you see when baker and truly came back DOWN stairs they rode all the way down on the elevator and never left its confines . thus garner cannot possibly have seen baker and truly walking down stairs . so garner saw baker and truly emerge from the 4th flloor stairs about 20 seconds after the oswald encounter on the 2nd floor , meaning oswald would have to have passed her , and that he could not be running ahead of adams and styles . so the warren commission decided not to call styles , they called adams and set out to discredit her . she asked them to call sandy styles and indeed garner who corroborate her , the commission refused . indeed the fbi buried garners corroborating statement . the commission set out to discredit dougherty . and then their problem was gone . thats some investigation is it not ? if you dont like the evidence ignore it , if you dont like what the witnesses say discredit them or bury their statements .

@@fobrien1 fobrien1 exists is his own conspiracy-addled universe, citing only facts which serve to fit his pre-ordained conclusion, distorting other facts to fit, and fabricating the rest. That's some posting is it not? if you don't like the evidence, ignore it (or it's say it's 'doctored'). If you don't like what the witnesses say, ignore them and just quote those witnesses who say what you like. It's no wonder fobrien1 can't do a thing to tarnish the official and correctly decided version of events.

@@apointofinterest8574 it is truly amazing that more sh-t comes out of your mouth than comes out of your rear end lol lol . its also truly amazing that you once again failed to even address never mind disprove a single word i said in my comment above lol lol .

@@fobrien1 Your lame "excavations" just like invisible pink unicorns, can never be disproved. But this does not mean (contrary to what you think )that they are true. They are not.

​i am the reincarnation of jesus, im serious .,.

people did do advance work , preparing routes and venues etc even in the 60s . originally jfk was not going to the trade mart at all . i often think of the route taken . ok now its the norm for a motorcade to go through the cities main streets , so that people can see the person in the motorcade . jfk came to my town and he had a motorcade through the cities main streets . however in dallas given the sharp turns and slowing of the limo that these turns would make happen i ask why they did not take a SLIGHTLY alternate route . they turned right from harwood and on to main street . as i say that would be the norm .but they could have made a right turn a few seconds earlier from harwood on to elm street . elm ran parallel with main , there was just a very short block between the streets . and the limo and motorcade would have had a straight run all the way down elm , and passed the depository with no turns at all , no slowing of the limo . the only turn would be as they went onto the stemmons freeway . it didnt really matter if people saw jfk on elm street as opposed to main as it was as i said just a short block away from main . the sharp slowing turns would have been removed , the correct safe speed of the limo maintained and jfk would have been that bit safer . and jfk might have lived . the fbi were well aware of oswald . there was a very large list of people , possible threats to jfk (about a million _) and defector and supposed angry america hating nut (and a man who supposedly gave russia amercias secret info )oswald who worked in the depository which jfk would ride in front of wasnt on it . the fbi knew about the miami plot ,jfk was hellicoptered in there . they knew about the milteer threat recorded on tape , yet they said they had no proof he made such a threat lol . they knew about the chicago plot . they knew about the message from a man called LEE warning of the danger to jfk , and they knew about the message received by them (the fbi ) warning that there would be an attempt to assassinate jfk on his texas trip . a message the fbi destroyed . apparently the fbi decided that the secret service didnt need to know the above information .

@@fobrien1 Reports say that the Secret Service was well aware of a threat to JFK, and relayed it to him, but that JFK chose to still take that route. The thing that has always stuck in my head is the expression on Lee Harvey's face once he was shot. He looked more like someone kicked him in the balls then someone just shot.

hi jerome well from all i know all the agents said that jfk never interfered at all with them , he allowed them to do their job . one exception would be that WHERE EVER POSSIBLE they would try and not obscure the view of jfk in the limo of onlookers . and even at that jfk never interfered . that very tragic afternoon clint hill rode on the left rear of the limo several times . im aware that jfk felt that he as president could be shot , and that his opinion was IF SO THERE REALLY WASNT A LOT HE COULD DO ABOUT IT . i mean he knew it could happen as it happened other presidents , and as it happened reagen in the 80s . but he didnt let it rule his life . the route taken in dallas is one thing , but my comment was in regards threats on jfks life and plots against him , that info was indeed kept from the secret service , so jfk could not have known about that . thanks for your reply .

@@fobrien1 Hi Fobrien1. Thank you for your comment. If that is indeed true, then JFK was correct, there's not much that can be done in some situations. They did stop using convertibles as a result of this incident. Of all conspiracies this is one that left more questions than answers. Allegedly, Lee Harvey Oswald made several remarks about killing the President at a rifle range he frequented, which supposedly the Secret Service was aware of. Anyway, thank you for your time.

there were people who said they saw a man they believed to be oswald at one or more shooting ranges . however his known movements preclude him from being the man seen , in fact there is no proof he ever practiced with a rifle . but then he was at different times being impersonated or his name used . as an example a man tried to buy trucks for an organization called friends for democratic cuba (one guy bannister was on the board of that organization ) using the name lee oswald , oswald was provably in russia .