Conical Slicing: A different angle of 3D printing

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Current 3D printing slicers are dumb and only generate G-Codes on a 2-dimensional plane. We are leaving a ton of potential on the table because 3D printers are easily capable of complex 3-dimensional moves, yet we don’t have any software to take advantage of it. This video shows the Conical Slicing approach to create Non-Planar G-Code that allows printing supportless overhangs!
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00:00 Introduction
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@CNCKitchen Жыл бұрын

Is non-planar slicing the future or just too complicated?

@bacaw2856 Жыл бұрын

I think we'll get there. We always have, just a matter of optimization and getting to understand the principles behind every new technology. The next generation of 3D-printers will probably laugh at us old-schoolers with our planar slicing methods!

@kevinnavarro1140 Жыл бұрын

I think yes, It has some negatives but It can be the real deal for 3d printing,

@ilyas5708 Жыл бұрын

Everything we do now was considered too complicated some time ago.

@wolvenar Жыл бұрын

One would think this should add to print strength and stability.

@theofficialczex1708 Жыл бұрын

If the past has proven anything, it's that "too complicated" doesn't exist given enough time.

@deekman78 Жыл бұрын

Watching FDM printers behave more like CNC routers is encouraging. Certainly there is a large body of knowledge to draw from with regards to motion systems and optimal toolpath development. I wonder if it would be easier to start with CAM software and build in the constraints of layer stacking rather than starting with a slicer and building CAM-like motion control into it.

@pmcquay1 Жыл бұрын

Ive always though the next generation of slicing would look more like a CAM suite, where you choose how to approach each feature of a print individually

@fabianbohnert120 Жыл бұрын

I have had parts several times where I would have liked to print one part in lower layer height than other parts. Have asked myself why there isn't a easy funktion for sectioning the print and beeing abel to do different settings on each part. Even only altering the layer height can save lots of time and also make overhangs work better.

@scottwarner7349 Жыл бұрын

@@fabianbohnert120 adaptive layers are just starting to become a thing on Cura

@lephtovermeet Жыл бұрын

CAM is light-years ahead of current slicers. The vast majority of slicers can't even load Brep models and the few that do, typically just take the Brep and convert it to a mesh file.

@fabianbohnert120 Жыл бұрын

@@scottwarner7349 thanks, I probably should update once again. Also it would be nice to set all parameters differently for different sections of the print, like lowering the print speed, layer hight and using more cooling on overhangs. Also possibly printing large uniform sections with more extrusion width.

@perakuikka3025 Жыл бұрын

One possible benefit of conical slicing Stefan that you did not mention is part strength to a certain directions when printing technical parts. Maybe in the future we could adjust angles of force in the slicer and slicer would count angles based on that. Right now we design parts we are just dealing with the horizontal plane when printing and print orientation. Great video!

@ralfvandeven3155 Жыл бұрын

Using stacking radial layers with angled axial layers would greatly increase part strength across layer lines.

@JeaneAdix Жыл бұрын

oh that is genius

@skopyhoTechChannel Жыл бұрын

when I watch video I got same idea. not having flat layers can resolve weakness of layer separation

@danielcarollo6952 Жыл бұрын

Yes! Achieving a greater strength perpendicular to the printbed is a great benefit of this method IMHO...

@11macedonian Жыл бұрын

Although ironically the way the layers are angled in order to print the overhangs make the delamination far more likely at the stress concentration region of the interior corner

@NathanBuildsRobots Жыл бұрын

There needs to be an advanced slicer, more like CNC programming software, where the operator/programmer needs to understand the limitations of the machine and the objectives of a part.

@luke_fabis Жыл бұрын

There already is. PowerMill has additive tools, and it's already widely used for 5-axis direct metal deposition. It's not a slicer anymore at that point. It's a full-blown CAM package. You also need a post-processor for every different machine out there.

@RadiantPhenom Жыл бұрын

just hard code the gcode, who needs a slicer

@christopherpepin6059 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he really undersold the involvement you need with nonplanar slicers in the beginning when he said that the only reason we use the current approach is because it is slightly easier to calculate. While flat XY slices are easier to compute they are also almost universally aplicable to any 3d printer. Nonplanar slicing will lead to either slicer hell, were every printer ends up using their own proprietary slicer or with a massively complex slicer that needs much more work in the setup phase.

@badgermcbadger1968 3 ай бұрын

@@RadiantPhenomno thanks

@marsgizmo Жыл бұрын

excellent video! 👏 looking forward to the day when non-planar will be standard in slicers

@durlin84 Жыл бұрын

next step that will really be required is 5d printing. check out this result: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jpifZZCEr6zaYoE.html

@nicholaslau3194 11 ай бұрын

@@durlin84 It's 5-axis 3d printing, not 5d printing.

@werlucad5783 6 ай бұрын

@@nicholaslau3194how would you know? You can’t see the fourth and fifth dimension as a three dimensional being 😂

@chad9166 6 ай бұрын

no, you're trying to farm engagement. know the difference.

@smilloww2095 4 ай бұрын

@@werlucad5783As far as we can tell there are no more than 3 dimensions. Since printers are built by humans there won't be one that can print in more than 3 dimensions

@Tomaskom Жыл бұрын

For aligning parts precisely in Cura, I use a trick with adding fake (unprintable) geometry. In Blender, I add tiny squares (like few mm wide and 0.01mm thick) in the opposing corners of the model, placed in a way that they are symmetrical compared to what i want as the part center and are the outermost parts of the model both in X and Y projections. Any slicer will ignore these, but they typically use the outermost vertices of the model (regardless of printability) and center the entire model around the middle of the extremities in X and Y. By spoofing in fake geometry, I take control of this :)

@hendrikjbboss9973 Жыл бұрын

Very innovative and original. Thumbs 👍 for your excellent manipulation. 👍

@dh2032 Жыл бұрын

so your printing your print object in a bigger invisible box the full size of your build plate surface? does your print when print still go throw the pretend of go the invisible parts and printing nothing? there?

@simoneiorio9703 Жыл бұрын

Did you try to make in Blender a solid that has the shape and the dimension of your printer utile volume and give to it a solidify modifier with thickness below printable? I use that solid in my Blender startup file (without thickness and in wire visualization), so when I need I can see my model in that volume without export and open slicers.

@Tomaskom Жыл бұрын

There is no need to go to the very corners of the print bed. All you need is these unprintable pieces to stick out beyond the furthest parts of the model 😉

@YHDiamond Жыл бұрын

@@dh2032 he said the slicer ignores the tiny areas so no

@JoeTaber Жыл бұрын

Applying a warping transform to your shape, then slicing, then applying the reverse-transform is a genius way to implement conical slicing. Amazing that it works with any slicing software!

@ericputney4598 Жыл бұрын

There's absolutely huge potential here. It seems like most of the problems can be handled with minor hardware tweaks, which is really exciting!

@howardbaxter2514 Жыл бұрын

absolutely. It would be absolutely revolutionary in the 3D printing world.

@kaseyboles30 Жыл бұрын

What can be added in is use of triple z axis some machines have to assist leveling. The ability to also tilt the bed, while more complex, would help solve a lot of the current limitations of this sort of thing.

@hendrikjbboss9973 Жыл бұрын

Very innovative thinking 🤔. If I may 🤔 make a comment I would substitute the word "leveling" at the end of your first sentence with "tilting" as think that this is what you are actually meaning 😉 😀

@nathan22211 Жыл бұрын

I think the ragrig V3 and voron 2.4 are capable of that. but the voron tool head will need an overhaul for this

@kaseyboles30 Жыл бұрын

@@hendrikjbboss9973 it's how I meant it. The three z systems currently use those to help tram ("level") the bed to the nozzle plane. I mention use for tilting in the second.

@3Dklase Жыл бұрын

Great idea. We have already worked with 3 independent axis movement with our in-house made 3D printer. Duet boards and code has capability of doing this kind of leveling-tilting. The only thing which should be considered: how to code it so that the bed moves simultaneously with the print:)

@disposabull Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. An upside down delta printer to tilt the bed and a separate xyz above it to control the head would be interesting.

@FluffRat Жыл бұрын

I've used 3D toolpaths in traditional CNC plenty of times, and I'm really happy to see it one step closer to becoming a standard feature.

@williamsteele Жыл бұрын

Wow...this is almost exactly the same process as my original belt printing code. You first skew the STL, then slice at the skewed angle... then print... the mechanical system did the last step. That's very cool! (It's also the same reason we don't need supports on the back side of a belt printer, as well!)

@seth7745 Жыл бұрын

Take it a step further and have a diagonal axis like the belt printer but a turn table in place of the belt for conical printing. conical printing is more efficient in a polar coordinate system than the cartesian coordinate system.

@tramsgar Жыл бұрын

Your double work with both video and blog on subjects is fanstastic! Very useful and ambitious.

@AndrewAhlfield Жыл бұрын

Love love love the work you are doing to bring awareness to the vast improvements that can be had in the slicing/software realm!

@markus5102 Жыл бұрын

It would be interesting to do some stability tests. With non planar slicing there is no weak horizontal plane.

@SetKat-Alex Жыл бұрын

There are still weak layers, but now they are tilted.

@larrybud Жыл бұрын

However, there are still layer lines, they just might not all be parallel to one another.

@fjord-fjesta Жыл бұрын

With a 5-axis printer it should be possible for some parts to print from the inside out instead of from the bottom up. First a skeleton with stacked layers warped to follow the middle of the form, then additional layers wrapped around the outside. This would make layer separation almost impossible.

@TrollFaceTheMan Жыл бұрын

@@SetKat-Alex yes but they also might be able to be printed more wavy or even gear like increasing layer bonding area and drastically increasing resistance to sheering in the the interlocking direction. Or even having infills that don't completely match the layer lines on the outside and even stagger up and down which could open amazing possibilities with strength and structure.

@michroz 6 ай бұрын

Even a small slope on Z-axis would enable printing across the layers (e.g. the slightly inclined or even X-crossing infill and/or secondary perimeters) and would increase the strength along the Z-axis, which today is limited by layer adhesion only. So, looking forward for this feature not only for supportless overhangs.

@marcfruchtman9473 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for reviewing this technology and for taking the time to make great code improvements in the source fork. Great stuff.

@ralfvandeven3155 Жыл бұрын

I assume that a delta printer would be most suitable because of the absence of a dedicated z axis. Small angles should be easy enough to implement from a hardware side. I thing structures could be printed that are impossible to print otherwise using variable slicing angles.

@JasonKingKong Жыл бұрын

Probably could even make a delta printer angle the printhead so it extrudes in the correct plane.

@ralfvandeven3155 Жыл бұрын

@@JasonKingKong Not without extra hardware. You have 3 pairs of arms and those arms are equal length and equal distance at both ends, and the top side is equal height due to the carriage. Which leads to equal height at the effector which translated into a level effector. If you would add steppers to rotate the carriages you could angle the effector. Considering the mass would be added to the carriages and not the effector that might work out well. I also believe the steppers to rotate the carriage might be quite small because that movement can be quite slow. The math would be an issue as tilting the carriage along one axis would cause the effector also to move in the horizontal plane. And on top of that tilting the effector als cause the nozzle to move bot horizontally as vertically. While everything can be calculated, you would need an accurate measurement of the offset between the nozzle and the effector mounting points. *disclaimer* these are just some quick musings as I ponder what would be needed.

@JasonKingKong Жыл бұрын

@@ralfvandeven3155 The kinematics would be tricky for most of us but I'm confident that there are some in the 3d printing community up to the task. I also wonder if it would be possible to alter the length of the legs to cause the printhead to rotate. That would be a hardware change but perhaps if the motors to make that happen were at the frame instead of near the printhead, it would work without introducing more bulk that could get in the way of the print. Fun to ponder the possibilities, even if most of it is beyond my experimental capabilities.

@ralfvandeven3155 Жыл бұрын

@@JasonKingKong true, it is not like I'm rushing out to add stepper motors to my delta. I prefer to do my experimenting where I see realistic opportunities for me to succeed. And while do enjoy figuring out how it could work implementing is above my capabilities at this point.

@Patrick-857 Жыл бұрын

What if you combined that with a bed that can spin? The speed you could achieve with some parts would be insane because rotating on a single axis is much easier for a machine rather than constantly changing the direction of the print head or slinging the entire bed back abd forth.

@michaelnordmann3414 Жыл бұрын

Great Content. The non-planar slicing is very inpresiv. I cant wait to try tis out myself. Thank you Stefan for your effort.

@aaron12693 Жыл бұрын

The cooling difficulties might not be a problem if you're mostly printing in filaments other than PLA. I mostly print in ASA, and I turn the cooling off almost all of the time.

@_MicZ_ Жыл бұрын

For sure a reasonable option out of the cooling problem. For the "problem" of the Z axis wear I'd suggest CoreXZ like the Switchwire, still cheap to make and way more suitable.

@abdullah-imran Жыл бұрын

just printing out angled vents could be a quick and easy fix to get pretty much the same performance

@bosstowndynamics5488 Жыл бұрын

@@_MicZ_ Honestly I suspect any conventional lead screw system that uses high quality parts should be absolutely fine from an axis wear perspective - lead screws are designed for use in CNC machines that have far more Z axis motion than 3D printers using 2.5D slicing

@travistucker7317 Жыл бұрын

@@bosstowndynamics5488 most cnc machines have ball screws opposed to lead screws, i do agree lead screws should be fine for this application though.

@J.Severin 11 күн бұрын

oh man, kanns kaum erwarten, das das für jedermann einfach verfügbar wird. Danke für das Video.

@FantumX2800 Жыл бұрын

Cool. I wrote a bunch of notes down and started testing a similar idea, but Marlin was freezing the third axis instruction when using G2/G3 commands. I asked about it in the Discord and, with the Marlin 2.1.1 bugfix version, it allows a linear move in the third axis. I am working on some code for three axis complex arcs in my free time. This is an awesome exploration at the limits of this idea.

@MegaMaking Жыл бұрын

this is amazing, thanks for the effort for making the video and improving the scripts. you are very few makers that share the same view with me - there are still a ton of potential with slicing software.

@KiR_3d Жыл бұрын

Hi, Stefan! I think that the rotating print head with the conical slicing is the best option in this area for now. Not expensive and potentially very effective.

@conorstewart2214 Жыл бұрын

I think there would be a lot more people trying it if there was a GUI to handle the transformations rather than needing to modify the Python code with the file names. Just a simple GUI would be needed, a way to select the file to modify and a way to specify the maximum angle and what way they want the cone to be, and it would make it much easier for people to try out and shouldn’t be much work either.

@mitchelldurward8863 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm definitely going to consider adding at least a filename prompt to the python code so I'm not having to change the code every time. Will see how well the code works first and see how much I plan on using it. Super keen though.

@conorstewart2214 Жыл бұрын

@@mitchelldurward8863 Based on my limited experience creating GUIs in python just adding a file prompt, text boxes or sliders and a few buttons shouldnt be difficult as all the program needs to do is read some data from the GUI and and run a few functions. I know the code for the transformations will be complex but shouldnt be hard to create a GUI. I would have a go myself but I dont have time due to uni.

@VulpeculaJoy Жыл бұрын

tkinter or qt would be my suggestion

@-Kal- Жыл бұрын

Nice! I've been messing around with this idea too. I used geometry nodes in Blender to distort the mesh. C++ program to edit the gcode. If a CNC machine can move in 3d, a 3d printer definitely should. I think 5 axis will probably be the way of the future for the most challenging prints though

@JoeyBlogs007 Жыл бұрын

The capability of 3D printing never ceases to amaze me.

@Epsilon3141 Жыл бұрын

My older brother’s senior project was using a sinusoidal pattern to print hollow cylinders and test the respective strength, to do this he had to learn g code and created his own slicing program. Just the new possibilities of this are so intriguing.

@SwervingLemon Жыл бұрын

It was really cool seeing a hornet in use. I would have kept mine but the company was very evasive when I asked to purchase a spare cable. The printer worked beautifully. I just couldn't risk that cable failing and leaving me with a 2 week downtime waiting for them to ship a replacement.

@tarakivu8861 Жыл бұрын

I mean.. couldnt you just.. make your own cable?

@SwervingLemon Жыл бұрын

@@tarakivu8861 It uses a proprietary cable with the bowden tube strung through the center of it so, practically? No.

@janzwiebel8518 Жыл бұрын

Wow. Impressive approach and (as always) a great video, Stephan! I guess the standard printer configuration for this method will be the Voron Switchwire with it's core x-z motion system. I have always wondered what could be the benefit for that type of printer, but there it is!

@jkbecker Жыл бұрын

This may be the most exciting thing I've heard about in the 3D printing space in years!

@glennwemmer2552 Жыл бұрын

Cool idea. Used my stock non molested Artillery X2 to print the tree. Worked good with one large caveat, I crashed the cooling fan duct into the print but the duct fell off, and just a few over extrusions on the very tip of the edges. I am going to work with the printer to see if I can get a clean print out of the gcode posted. Really like the idea and think it will require me to go to the next level in true 3D printing. Thanks Stefan

@mscir 10 ай бұрын

Great video, I'm looking forward to future developments.

@bwilliams1815 Жыл бұрын

I have a 4 axis cnc mill. This is getting very interesting. Great video again.

@ianr1863 Жыл бұрын

Great Video Stefan. I have been very interested in 3D slicing as method to reduce waste supports etc be it non-planar or conical etc. and I do hope it's the start of next progression in 3D printing slicing. Besides the fact that not only useful, looks really cool as well. :)

@forrestberg591 Жыл бұрын

Really great video about an interesting topic! Answered every question I had and more! Thanks!

@stevenfaber3896 Жыл бұрын

Great Video SHtephan! I think the first thing for anything to become mainstream nowadays is getting those 2 .pys into a hosted web gui After that, you can integrate it into slicers as a package or an API much easier. Putting a bow on it if you will.

@jeffreyderouen3260 Жыл бұрын

This was extremely helpful. You laid out the info, so it was easily understandable.

@MrMistery101 Жыл бұрын

Any plans on developing a layer adhesion strength test for overhanging parts?

@CNCKitchen Жыл бұрын

I'll definitely do that!

@spinnetti Жыл бұрын

Been waiting a while for this but not smart enough to program it myself lol. Happy to see the research is still going.

@LearnEverythingAboutDesign Жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed the video! Thank you for taking the time to test and present this! I wonder if an approach more akin to 4 or 5 axis CNC would be more applicable in the future. The head would move up/down and the table would move side to side and rotate on A and B axes. It might appear to reduce the build area but really we are talking about the area that attaches to the build plate.

@dwee44 Жыл бұрын

I bet Cura will include this in their experimental settings within few month (or at least i hope), awesome video. I will always be amazed about how far we can push engineering especially for little makers at home like me !

@gamofin3447 Жыл бұрын

This is something I would love to see in slicers soon as possible!

@zachh1000 5 ай бұрын

Shows how much ground we still have to cover with this technology - it’s amazing how often the most obvious and easy to implemen way of doing something cam be the worst or certainly not the best

@802Garage Жыл бұрын

Quick thought for you. If you can angle the print head and use conical slicing, you could even create an inner wall first, with angled layers to create a less linear planer of separation. Then you could add a second wall layer, angled in the opposite direction, with the print head angled towards the first wall so it doesn't it. You could even do 3 or 4 layers of opposite angled walls to essentially weave the shell of the object. It would have to be done a certain about of height at a time of course due to the head support and all, but this could create incredibly strong parts that do not have a single plane of separation.

@debts2wealth Жыл бұрын

ich lebe seit 7 jahre in usa... muss immer meine infos auf englisch irgendwie bekommen und nun bin ich ueberrascht wie toll dein englisch ist obwohl du auch noch deutsch zumindest sprichst. prima keep up the good work

@shokdj1 Жыл бұрын

This looks so awesome I must try

@Repkord Жыл бұрын

Well done. You're absolutely right that 3D Printers are still so limited by the software. I truly hope there are more willing to pick up the mantle here and implement some of these advanced techniques in slicing software that will take the technology to the next level.

@fkm6572 Жыл бұрын

Man your videos are top of the moutain!!! No words!!! Congrats!!!

@chrisliebhardt774 Жыл бұрын

Great Video! Brought me to following Idea: the problem with overhangs is obviously gravity....in order to print overhangs, you could "just" tilt you whole printer. Assuming you can print 60° overhangs very well, tilting by 30° will should make 90° overhangs printable. For very simple models like the pipe in the vid, you could try to tilt the printer on you table, as the overhang has only one direction. Thinking that further: take a tilted coreXY printer, and mount a turntable on the bed --> printable overhangs in every direction, made really strong with conical slicing.

@avejst Жыл бұрын

Wow, impressive find/new approach Thanks for sharing your expirences with all of us :-)

@JonasVilander Жыл бұрын

Something I discovered recently after upgrading my Lulzbot Workhorse with an Archim2 board(and doing comparitive testing to prints on the old Rambo 1.4 as well as my Ender 3 S1), is that conical slicing as it stands right now is ideally handled by printers that have a belted Z axis(less z wobble), and can handle higher resolution microstepping(uses higher end Trinamic drivers).

@gunsmoke132 Жыл бұрын

This is such a great channel. It blows my mind that it does have more subscribers.

@sachinisg Жыл бұрын

Good video, I will try code myself for some efficient printing to reduce filament waste. For the extreme overhang, extruded filament would bend and change position on z-axis. This will definitely affect final finish.

@marutiroma6295 5 ай бұрын

Great idea! Thanks for sharing.

@Jandodev Жыл бұрын

This is so cool non-planar op!

@3dprintedman Жыл бұрын

Cool video! I bet if manufacturers designed their printers with this technique in mind, there would be a lot of room for improvement. Rethinking the location of the bed level sensor would be a good start.

@balusamys3515 Жыл бұрын

Its awesome bro! Thanks for this sharing Marvellous content....

@MrElapid Жыл бұрын

Great stuff! I've had to print parts like finned cylinders on a 45-degree angle but of course these prints still need supports. If I were to guess, slicing software capabilities will really take off now that printing plastics has gone mainstream.

@DreamingRobotsBlog Жыл бұрын

Wow, I must say I'm impressed. I used to be a low level real time computer graphs driver developer (OpenGL, D3D, Vulcan) at a big tech company before starting my own business. It feels very similar to slicer tech, but obviously the markets are much bigger with 3D graphics (video game engines are the top client). This led to real time computer graphics having way more research and development put into it. I have for years thought the slicer market has a lot of low hanging fruit for major improvements, but I know it's still a lot of hard work. I have purchased 3D printers that make there own slicers (Prusa and Ultimaker) because I wanted to support companies putting money into the slicer software. As a person who always made "free" drivers for 3d graphics hardware I saw environments where there were equal or more people working on the software even though people only paid for the hardware. This makes me recognize other similar markets like 3d slicers. It's great slicers are open source allowing for others to play around with them, or in your case hacking their output. I agree with a willingness to pay for a slicer, but I'd say the odds of a premium pay slicer being a long term winner are low. Personally, I think there is a ton of space for improvement in slicers. Not just with non-planar, but lots of other techniques like smart auto supports in the short term. As with computer graphics one of the hardest things is to make it easy to use all the newest features. Designing an algorithm is great, but trying to automatically apply that algorithm without having regressions in quality/performance is sometimes even more difficult. I'm impressed you actually addressed some of that in your video. Anyways, I'm happy youtube suggested this video to me, and I have joined your patreon. You did some great proof of concept work here. I'd love to contribute my time and code to this space, but I doubt I'll have the time. So for now I'll just support what you've done here. Thank you!

@IronMan-yg4qw Жыл бұрын

man. this is awesome! cant wait till its in cura or other slicing software. keep us up to date on its progress!

@TheSlaughtermatic Жыл бұрын

honestly I think that to get the most out of non-planar slicing extruder tilt axis will be needed. Not technically difficult to put on the printer but probably a pain to program for. However I think it will be worth the effort, designing useful mechanical parts around the limits of current slicers kinda feels like trying to climb a hill with your foot in a bucket.

@haenselundgretel654 Жыл бұрын

This is not just ingenious, but also your video and how you work out all this info is awesome! You're awesome, too!

@markmalonson7531 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Thank you !

@AzureScorch Жыл бұрын

Cura could totally make a 3d printer with this in mind and then add the feature to their slicer. Since they produce both software and hardware they have an advantage there. Definitely looks like an interesting possibility for the future.

@theelmonk Жыл бұрын

In MIG welding we have something called a 'gas lens'. This is a nozzle that ensures the welding point is surrounded by a 'focused' envelope of inert gas. Could we use this principle to provide cooling air to the print surface coaxially with the nozzle instead of the crude (and often very inefficient) blower nozzles common today ? Of course, we also have the air-assist nozzle of a laser cutter but that's made very much easier by the ability of the laser beam to shine right through the air jet. That doesn't work with an extruder!

@CorvidianSystems Жыл бұрын

I've thought about this approach as well, and i don't see why it couldn't be implemented with enough engineering time. I believe you would want additional thermal insulation around the nozzle then so that the rapidly moving air doesn't cool the nozzle significantly, no?

@S_Roach Жыл бұрын

Conical sounds neat. I'd be happy with quilted. Add some z-variation, just the thickness of a layer, to infill, to better weld layers together. Create dimples in each layer, and fill those dimples on the next layer. Alternately, use a biscuit approach. Create voids in the pattern that are filled with special infill "biscuits", like in woodworking, that reach both into the last and next layer. A cross-section of the former would look like ripples, while a cross-section of the latter would look like inclusions in a sedimentary layer.

@simonbenichou7906 Жыл бұрын

Seems so powerfull !!! I'm waiting for it in PrusaSlicer :)

@melioratewithnate Жыл бұрын

You are the king Steffan!

@trsarathi Жыл бұрын

Excellent information. Thank you.

@pashkamake1799 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for good and very interesting video. I can agree with you, that is a next generation of 3d printing, but there are lots of test and work to do, to make this metod nice and easy to use. I think in now days non-planar slicing is just for geeks or time-killer, because there are lots of makers, who has problems with printing simple ABS. But huge thanks for video!

@spezzington 6 ай бұрын

Anything to dispose of supports is a winner!

@spedi6721 Жыл бұрын

Would be nice if the tilting heatbed of the VCore 3 could be used.

@OmegaZZ111 Жыл бұрын

I hope these methods get implemented in the next generation printers, very interesting!

@CF7_82 Жыл бұрын

very well produced video

@Bruno-cb5gk Жыл бұрын

That is such an elegant way of acheiving this without having to create a new slicer.

@InXsense Жыл бұрын

Having more possibilities is always something good.

@LeftoverBeefcake Жыл бұрын

Just a small tip: I would make a change to the python scripts and use the input() function to ask the user for a file name rather than hard coding the file name. That way you can run the scripts from a command line without needing to edit the source every time you run it.

@TheRyulord Жыл бұрын

Would be even better to just make it a command line argument

@LeftoverBeefcake Жыл бұрын

@@TheRyulord Right, that would also work.

@ro.driguesro1334 Жыл бұрын

this on a switchwire would be a sweet setup and i think it will be a very possible future, maybe not for every one starting out but for people that are already used to thinkering yes

@Benjamin_Reese 7 ай бұрын

This looks like what I've been wanting with my 3D pointing since I started. Definitely a worthy pursuit, I just need to learn how to code.😢

@sbelljr Жыл бұрын

This is almost intriguing enough to dig out my old delta printer!

@AZREDFERN Жыл бұрын

I can't wait for Cura to add this. I would still use supports, but it will prevent some flat sections from sagging in to the support interface.

@WoodmanFFM Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if non-planar slicing and printing will be THE future for FDM printing, but I think it does show that we've barely scratched the surface of 3D printing. Even though hardware and software have improved vastly during the past 10 years, there is still lots of room for innovation and I'm really eager to see what the future will hold.

@ClaudioYanezNos Жыл бұрын

Man, what a great video. I wish I could help in this topic, it sounds super interesting.

@livewiya Жыл бұрын

I plan to play with non-planer slicing soon, but with an Ender 5 Plus, I cannot imagine doing so with the lead screw for long. In the short term, I'd likely us a POM leadscrew nut but I suspect I ultimately will find myself wanting belted Z for non-planar.

@shotbyarian Жыл бұрын

love the idea!

@prw56 Жыл бұрын

This is very impressive. I still think adding additional printing axes is the path forward, but I bet they'll be a lot of shared genetics in the algorithms used for those slicers and what you showed here.

@HelenaOfDetroit Жыл бұрын

Non planar slicing would solve a problem I've had with printing a model of a truss support which would have both downard and side-loading forces. I wanted to make it strong enough, which meant relying on layer adhesion for at least one of the axis. Non planer would solve that issue and make the model much stronger.

@jessefremont Жыл бұрын

I think for all the open source printers (such as my ender 3 pro) I previously made my own cooling system with noctua fans. This allows for LESS clearance than stock just because it is so close. BUT the bridging i get is ridiculously good. It would be smart to invent a cooling that s downward aimed, and out of the way, to cope with the angle.

@NotPorn Жыл бұрын

This looks so fun.

@agasa_workshop Жыл бұрын

Maximising the angle of overhangs you can make would already be quite usefull... this looks an easy field into which expanding...

@ifell3 Жыл бұрын

Wow this is awesome, like you say not perfect, but could be really helpful

@donz.519 Жыл бұрын

Great video! Non-planer printing would need a belted Z axis. Like the Voron printers.

@Muwex Ай бұрын

Hope this will be implemented on all slicers soon! Also they could use different printer profiles for clearance.

@lilbHEMI Жыл бұрын

awesome video again Stefan. Keep up the good work. I´m amazed how you can use multiple scilers. I use only Simplify3D.

@WildChinoise Жыл бұрын

LOLS, I'm lppking forward to CNC Kitchen"s non planar slicer!

@SaintMatthieuSimard Жыл бұрын

That's really inspiring!

@bartek977 Жыл бұрын

in this project, you could add a parameter in which the nozzle clearance would be entered, which in the case of printers with too small a clearance, the program would adjust the printout to optimize the printout as much as possible and that the printouts would be the best for a given 3d printer

@QEngineering Жыл бұрын

Cool video, I'd be really surprised to see Simplified 3D v5 (really brings me back seeing it in the video). I would be really happy to see even a partial conical slicing, even if its just on the last few layers in order to give us a nice finish. 🍻

@eleengineer Жыл бұрын

with the overhangs, look into the printhead shape; as the steep nearby angle and stick out should be factored into the calculations

@rcmaniac25 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic video. While you have a point on the possibility that new hardware is needed, I do think part of that can be negated by simply having the while extruder modeled into the slicer. An easy first step would be for PrusaSlicer to do such a thing for MMU prints when "no sparse layers" is involved, as that is a case where the extruder and gantry will crash into the part if not positioned correctly... but there's no good way to know without trial and error, measuring and hoping the slicer works the way you think, or just moving the transition tower to a rear-corner and the model to a front-corner. Let the slicer understand what the extruder is and it can probably take into account "2 degrees on this side, 9 degrees on that side" and come up with a proper slicing plan as you pointed out. Changing nozzles works if there's an easy way to know or measure how much adjustment is needed (though in cases like MK3/Mini/etc., it also requires a change in where the probe is... which may make it more desirable to just have a software change then a hardware one)