Connecting batteries in series or parallel (LIPO)

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UPDATED BETTER VERSION HERE - • Easy Connecting of LIP...
Note. I mispoke in one place in the video. 2000mA equals 2 amps.
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@Painless360
@Painless360 5 жыл бұрын
If you are still confused after watching this old video then the later version is easier to follow and answers many of the common questions from this video - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lc97rbNy19XTfIE.html
@samparsons4385
@samparsons4385 4 жыл бұрын
So do you just leave the charging cord alone and it doesn’t need to plug into anything when running your rc like will it still work in water?
@mathiaskash1458
@mathiaskash1458 3 жыл бұрын
Instablaster.
@fatbackmiddlebrooks3122
@fatbackmiddlebrooks3122 3 жыл бұрын
Mine holds 2 LiPO batteries okay and it dies after being played with but one of the batteries is less powered than the other one when I'm showing 8.4 volts the other one still showing 11 volts what's going on
@groverscorner2364
@groverscorner2364 7 ай бұрын
Awesome 9 years later and your video/content/information is still relevant!
@rossdejager2577
@rossdejager2577 9 жыл бұрын
Very good explanation. It might just be also worth mentioning in this video that if you connect the two batteries in parallel the storage capacity in mAh doubles to 4000 mAh, and when connected in series, it stays the same at 2000 mAh.
@savekillqqpsounds8473
@savekillqqpsounds8473 2 жыл бұрын
Ooooooo thank you man!
@EstebanRiveraCinematographer
@EstebanRiveraCinematographer 4 ай бұрын
9 years after, still being so helpful 🙏
@silentperformance
@silentperformance 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you! With watching this video and your 101, I now understand LiPo batteries. I have been a Nitro/Gas guy for a while and have fallen behind on the technology of electrics.
@jwa6789
@jwa6789 5 жыл бұрын
That actually cleared a lot up I'm a vapor and all the vapor vids confused me but this made it all clear thank you
@bobot021070
@bobot021070 9 жыл бұрын
now that is a CLEAR heck of explanation!!! AS CHRYSTAL CLEAR. THANKS MAN ITS VERY KIND OF U!!
@BWWGL9
@BWWGL9 9 жыл бұрын
Finally some explained it properly and simply....
@ranjeetsingh-ze8sc
@ranjeetsingh-ze8sc 6 жыл бұрын
I m thankful to you I want to calculate battery bank for my solar plant Your video give me whole solution of my problem Now I can design my battery bank as my need Thanks again
@richh8860
@richh8860 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to impart your knowledge to everyone ,nice little tutorial 👍
@JesseBlum
@JesseBlum 6 ай бұрын
I got that same exact connector today. Its awesome to use my two 7.4 volts that I hardly ever use anymore because I bought a bunch of 3s batteries.
@adamkeen7042
@adamkeen7042 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This made it so much easier to get my head around, great work
@guytelfer1353
@guytelfer1353 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video, so the voltage in series connection is what increases rpms while the amps increases the torque in parallel, soon I'm going to do a short video showing 120volts with a current of about 7.5amps and another being 240 at 15 amps , lithiums may be capable of high current using them in a electrolytic fashion, in general lithiums are usually separate to the load through a pcb unlike nickel that just use diodes, consider rewinding the rotor increasing the gauge to handle the unexpected current or unregulating the current
@thatsmyrc
@thatsmyrc 2 ай бұрын
Extremely well explained and diagrams just as nice and very helpful 👍🏼
@pauljenkins6807
@pauljenkins6807 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, this solved a problem for me. I'm installing an e flite 360 onto a hanger 9 xcub 60cc. I'm using a a castle 160 amp esc and a bec. I want to run 12s and didn't know how to rig up the batteries. You explained how to solve my issue, great video
@vijaypatel-si6ig
@vijaypatel-si6ig 2 ай бұрын
Great video explaining proper technique
@power-max
@power-max 9 жыл бұрын
It should probably be important to mention that batteries of different voltages (or cells) should NEVER commented in parallel, while batteries of different mAH should never be connected in series. Connecting batteries that have different voltages in parallel can cause excessive current from the higher voltage pack to uncontrollably dump that charge into another lower voltage pack, as the system tries to equalize itself. if the current is limited, the lower voltage pack can safely charge up and the higher voltage pack can safely discharge into it, and of course the cell numbers are the same (3S to 3S) thats not much of a problem, nor is it in issue when both packs are already at the same voltage and same cell count. The packs can be different capacities since even if one dies faster, than the other pack will help the dying pack out by taking the load off of it, as well as supply the grunt of the power. More technically, it is an equilibrium condition. When it comes to series circuits, the cell count actually can be different between the batteries, however, the capacities MUST be closely matched or else the one pack will discharge faster than the other, and they will need to be continuously balanced, and if one pack fall below 3V per cell, and the multi rotor is trying to draw lots of current, it can be thought of like a short-circuit, and you can see the small dead battery will be *reverse charged* by the bully battery, and it will probably explode! I like explosions, but not expensive ones! (Also I do not like class D fires. They nasty!)
@pochul
@pochul 9 жыл бұрын
exaclty true ! in parralale u can mix different capacity 1 ah+ 3 ah + 10 ah = 14 ah and if use 7.5 ah ( 50 % of total capacity ) and u disconnect them each pack will still have 50 % of their capacity that mean the 1 ah battery with be remain with 0.5 ah , the 3 ah will remain with 1.5 ah and the 10 ah will have 5 ah still remain ,, many people believe that the smallest will die first ,,, ,, it's exaclty the opposite in serial it's could , but not in parralale ,, u right to mention it
@power-max
@power-max 9 жыл бұрын
pochul I actually never thought about it in terms of capacity, but absolutely true, considering the similarities of the charge/discharge curves between the same cells w/ the same chemistries; and also the voltage, since the cells will remain at exactly the same voltage when in parallel. Good point!
@alexanderbuckley8975
@alexanderbuckley8975 9 жыл бұрын
+Power Max I would like to move into the parallel configuration for my quad. I am not entirely confident that ensuring the voltages are identical is practical. If I charge the two batteries separately, I would assume there will be small difference between the two given the quality of the chargers. Now the difference may be only negligible, but I would assume there would be some at least short lived high current between the two when connected that would be very unhealthy for the batteries and potentially hazardous if done with every charge and use. Would you have any practical suggestions for equalizing the batteries after charging? Would a large series resistor between the 2 work?
@power-max
@power-max 9 жыл бұрын
+Alexander Buckley Just make sure they are both the same chemistry, and same nominal voltage or cell count. (11.1V 3S), and that both are fully charged before connecting them in parallel. If you change your mind about charging them separately, I recommend also connecting the individual cells in parallel. The ballence connector gives you limited access (in terms of maximum current) to those points, good enough for this purpose.
@alexanderbuckley8975
@alexanderbuckley8975 9 жыл бұрын
+Power Max My original concerns were related to connecting to separately charged batteries together in-system. I am a computer engineer, I am good with circuits and all that... but batteries do not really fall into my knowledge area. Even for small voltages, I can see there being a large transient on connection. I just don't know if that is a bad. There would not be any sustained high temperature that would be similar to shorting the battery. But on the chemical composition level I have no idea what impact that may have. Repetition of minor damage adds up. It goes without saying there are significant flight time and safety concerns. I have started thinking about parallel charging since doing some further research. It is the balance connector that makes parallel charging not so 'plug and play'. Are you suggesting wire the individual cell from each battery in parallel for charging or during operation or both? I am trying to come up with a solution here that is safe, electrically sound, does not require too much custom wiring or any steps that could be mistaken. I'd like it to be reproducible and simple enough for a lay person (idiot proof). I am thinking now the way to go would be to equalize the batteries in parallel (cell by cell) using series resistors. I can make an assembly that can be attached and switch operated. After that, Y-cables can be connected for both power lead and balance lead, 'forever' keeping them as a single unit for both charging and use. I am just wondering how they would behave, two cells permanently in parallel. It is obvious in the series configuration that each cell behaves differently. I just have no idea what impact permanent parallel connections have on battery life/capacity. I wouldn't be surprised if this even was a beneficial arrangement, one that may reduce the chances of an individual cell dropping below it's threshold while the total voltage still remains over the low voltage cutoff limit. Or one cell's charge voltage could be reached with limited capacity, triggering the charge stop. Meanwhile the other cell could have still taken more charge. Or maybe both things happen it is a trade off, life for capacity. I am just worried about some sort of favoritism scenarios occurring that I don't know about. Like one cell getting pushed to hard in use, hastening it's demise.
@YensR
@YensR 8 жыл бұрын
5:00 slip of the tongue probably, but BOTH arrangements double the power compared to the single battery, because power = current * voltage. I think it would have been clearer to say that parallel gives you effectively a 3s 4000mAh 10C battery and series gives you a effectively a 6s 2000mAh 10C battery, both able to put out the same max power, which is twice what the single battery can do. Maybe introduce the 3s2p / 6s1p notation, too. It would also have been important to say that parallel connection can be dangerous if the voltages of the batteries are different, as they will try to equalise voltages (one charges the other) and high currents can flow in that situation if you do it wrong.
@c.g.c2067
@c.g.c2067 5 жыл бұрын
🤣
@jackjosephtz3
@jackjosephtz3 5 жыл бұрын
Will a BMS help in this case? Parallel charging of similar battery packs
@bartoszsokoowski3659
@bartoszsokoowski3659 5 жыл бұрын
Therefore, to obtain a "double capacity powerpack" from two batteries, we should connect them parallel to maintain the voltage of powered circuit?
@robertengelhardt3321
@robertengelhardt3321 4 жыл бұрын
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@YensR
@YensR 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, connect them in parallel, you will get twice the run time (or a bit more) and your motor gets the same voltage (but maybe a bit more constant). However, you need to make sure that the voltages of the cells you combine in parallel are very very close.
@TBD_Teebs
@TBD_Teebs 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this little video! Just needed a quick refresher as to what connectors I had as I haven't driven/worked with my RC Buggy for a while. Just one thing I would mention, with the theory you've given, is parallel basically gives an RC model a longer flight/run time, but the same power. With series as I run in my buggy with 2 2s lipos, it gives it a slightly longer run time but also doubles the power that the buggy can draw. So since my setup can handle a 4s lipo, basically doubles the max speed my buggy can get to :)
@Painless360
@Painless360 7 жыл бұрын
+TBD_TheBlackDog as you increase the voltage by connecting your batteries in series it does mean that the motor needs to pull slightly less current to get the same wattage. This will have the effect of giving you a slightly longer run time as well. Same effect as replacing the 3s with the 4S pack in a model
@boy6named6zoen6
@boy6named6zoen6 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining the difference to me. I always mix the 2 up for some reason. Had the correct cable to make a 12s out of 2 6s lipo batteries but thought i connect them in parallel instead of series. And hats of for you you are a very patience man with all the questions you get. It's like people can't think for themselves and are looking for a quick and easy answer instead of looking it up themselves on forums or use there brains. I know i went looking for a answer myself but this was a pretty simple one. I see a lot of people in the comments here asking the same question over and over again. I don't have a problem with explaining something to new people in the hobby but i give up on them if they keep coming with the same every time.Do your research self it gives you a much better feeling if you solve the problem yourself with research on forums by digging trough the site.
@Painless360
@Painless360 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting that. I agree too many want the 'quick fix' rather than think the problem through and use the resources available and gain a better understanding of what they are looking at. I try and teach the person to fish, not give them one so they can help themselves next time they are stuck ;) Happy flying!
@joselopez-kj1ox
@joselopez-kj1ox 7 жыл бұрын
thank you so much I've been looking for a video to explain serie parallel for days I really appreciate your video
@jonathanflores3748
@jonathanflores3748 5 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! Everything was clear right to the point!!
@MrKillerhaze
@MrKillerhaze Жыл бұрын
I did this to my kraton 6s love it running 2 3s 7000mah 100c 💪🏼 now I get 14000mah plus 200c of power 🫡 you sir are the best!!
@kandscustoms1122
@kandscustoms1122 Жыл бұрын
Best explanation out there, and the visuals as well every one else is cramming numbers at ya and it makes no sense to me any way….!!! 🤘😎🤘
@robviolin1
@robviolin1 9 жыл бұрын
After reading the comments, I have learned NOT to connect batteries in series if they are different amp hours. I am not sure why the amp hours are not added up like they are when connected in parallel. Thanks for letting us know.
@KiloWattPlays
@KiloWattPlays 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love a 8 year old video still being up to date🤣👍
@rolandclaro9459
@rolandclaro9459 3 жыл бұрын
thank you sir for your very understandable well spoken definition of power
@ianyboo
@ianyboo 6 жыл бұрын
As usual your videos give me the exact information I needed plus a couple new nuggets! Thank you so much!
@Jacey2001
@Jacey2001 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I needed a refresher.
@DJDevine
@DJDevine 7 жыл бұрын
Perfect thank you, I am looking at two extra 2s lipos 1200 mah 30c and we all love as many extras as we can get it will be a 4s for my quad, this is perfect thank you.
@Damian-Mucha
@Damian-Mucha Жыл бұрын
Very clear explanation, thank You.
@eddxx8729
@eddxx8729 6 жыл бұрын
This is very helpful!! Thanks for making this video!!
@RCManiacs
@RCManiacs 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Just made a serial connector with the help of this. Thanks!
@rcpete7055
@rcpete7055 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making that.. makes it clearer to understand..
@traplover7341
@traplover7341 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing explanation! Thanks so much! My project can start today because of you :).
@paulr3556
@paulr3556 21 күн бұрын
Quick question, I can add a 10s4p and a 2s4p in series together and make a 12s. Like the ESC will see 12s or 50.4v fully charged. I'll obviously disconnect for charging them separately. It's for a electric skateboard increasing the voltage DIY. Using stock 10s4p 18650 battery and adding 2s4p 18650 battery. Like going from 4s to 6s on Quadcopters. More power n rpm. Great videos to always refer back to. Cheers again.
@Painless360
@Painless360 21 күн бұрын
Yes, but be very careful that the cell specs are the same... best of luck
@dx.christian6517
@dx.christian6517 4 ай бұрын
Great video, one question though, how do you charge the lipo battery in series? How about in parallel setup?
@Painless360
@Painless360 4 ай бұрын
I'd always charge them seperately.... Happy flying
@Sky.Travel
@Sky.Travel 8 жыл бұрын
I have three 4s 1800mHA 65C batteries, when i connect them in parallel, it's will give 195C will it effect my motor and ESC, I know My ESC and motor can handle 4S.
@Painless360
@Painless360 8 жыл бұрын
+Skytech Today No, you'll get a 65C 5,400mah pack.. ;) My advice - buy the right battery for the job..
@Custnam
@Custnam 4 жыл бұрын
Hello. I have a question. I have several 6s 5200mah 50c packs and will be needing 8s soon. The ESC connector has a loop connector connected to the 2 ESC leads which would normally have two 4s packs connected to each. Would it be possible to just buy some 2s packs that are the same brand, mah, and C rating and combine that with the 6 to get 8? Ive asked this in another forum and got mixed answers. Some said NO WAY!! And others said its no different than combining two 4s packs to get 8s. Thank you
@pf06840
@pf06840 7 жыл бұрын
Just what I was looking for. Perfectly done. But how did they get John Oliver to narrate it? :)
@michaelhurrell1295
@michaelhurrell1295 4 жыл бұрын
So on charging do you connect the two charging inputs in parallel to charge both batteries? Mike Hurrell
@Painless360
@Painless360 4 жыл бұрын
I'd disconnect the packs to charge them one by one personally.. Less chance of messing something up. Best of luck!
@gunnuchannel351
@gunnuchannel351 9 жыл бұрын
can i connect two different brand different power (mah) and different discharge rated batteries in parallel??
@Painless360
@Painless360 9 жыл бұрын
Not recommended. Always try and use the same capacity and C rating packs when using in parallel. Happy flying!
@pochul
@pochul 9 жыл бұрын
in parralale u can mix different capacity (but not different volts ) 1 ah+ 3 ah + 10 ah = 14 ah and if use 7.5 ah ( 50 % of total capacity ) and u disconnect them each pack will still have 50 % of their capacity that mean the 1 ah battery with be remain with 0.5 ah , the 3 ah will remain with 1.5 ah and the 10 ah will have 5 ah still remain ,, many people believe that the smallest will die first ,,, ,, it's exaclty the opposite in serial it's could , but not in parralale ( serial can't mix different capacity but different volts can ,, if u mix different capacity in serial the value of u pack is the lowest value of the smallest pack in serial 2000 mah + 3000 mah , = 2000 mah , u can't use the 1000 mah remain bcuz the other pack already to 0 mah , it's will die ,, but u can disconnect it and use ur pack alone with his 1000 mah remain but not with the empty pack ) hope u get it
@power-max
@power-max 9 жыл бұрын
pochul Although thats true, it is not necessarily the best solution, for complicated practical reasons, it is better to use the same cells and manufacture so that differences in the chemistry for them does not cause issues. (which may cause differences in the internal resistance, charging curves, thermal characteristics, etc.) Point is it can be done, although like Painless360 says, not recommended. Only Macgyver is allowed to do that! :)
@rodneyswinson
@rodneyswinson 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this valuable video
@gairikbiswas753
@gairikbiswas753 8 жыл бұрын
Higher the 's", higher is the voltage. Shouldn't parallel connection of two 2200 mAh 3s batteries give 4400mah 3s as parallel connections ensure "same" voltage output across terminals?
@YensR
@YensR 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is correct. As far as I can see, the video does not contradict this, but it (sadly) doesn't mention the change in capacity.
@rcman6895
@rcman6895 3 жыл бұрын
have a question I have a e-bike and I have two 36-volt batteries hooked and serious these batteries I have are no more than maybe two months old and I bought a brand new one thinking that what solved the problem and it didn't but I will hook these batteries up in series and put a load on the bike like going up the hill at half throttle I will be halfway up the hill and the votes in the battery were dropped down rate in front of my face so far the bike were cut off and then I would have to unplug the plug replug it and it will be okay until I put another load on the battery and then that would happen again could you please let me know what the problem could be
@madprism
@madprism 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Painless, my question might be painful but I've looked through the comments and I can't find the answer.I am an newb when it comes to batteries so I hope you can help.I have a Flamewheel F550 and 2 X 5000mah 3s lipos. I would like to combine them in some way to ech out more flying time. I'm presuming parallel is the the right way to connect them. Is that right?Please forgive me for my lack of knowledge.
@madprism
@madprism 8 жыл бұрын
I worked it out, thanks for your lipo video as well, really good info. I have way to high c rated batteries 65-130c .
@Painless360
@Painless360 8 жыл бұрын
+Tamati Tapara great! Parallel gives you more flight time..
@daviddrysdale8866
@daviddrysdale8866 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for all your help - very much appreciated !
@MarcoLopez-wy6zx
@MarcoLopez-wy6zx 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation!
@IMPORTECHML
@IMPORTECHML 9 жыл бұрын
hello Painless360, i have a question, i have a drone syma 5 that works with a lipo battery 1cell 3.7 volts, 500 mAh, and also have a drone JJrc h8 that works with a 2 cell 7.4 500 mAh and those batteries has a balancer conector, can i repalce de 7.4 volt battery for 2 batteries 3.7 volts making a conector in serie? is the same than the stock 7.4 volt? does not affect if theres not have balancer conector? i will apreciate your answer, for me is more conveninete for price and time to chage use the 1 cell 3.7 volts batteries, thanks.
@Painless360
@Painless360 9 жыл бұрын
+IMPORTECHML You can but make sure that the mAh rating of the 1cell batteries are the same as the 2 cell you're using. I would recommend investing in the right batteries for the model as the extra wires and connections all add weight and points of failure to the model and some of the smaller models are very sensitive to extra mass. Best of luck.
@Side85Winder
@Side85Winder 8 жыл бұрын
if i understand this right a 3s 2000mAh 10c 12.4 battery contains inside it 3x 1 cells 2000mAh 10c ~4.15v packs (safe recommended charging voltage). So with those LiHV batterys that are now showing up i could take apart a larger pack like a Turnigy Bolt 500mAh 2s 7.4v 65c - 130c to get 2x 500mAh 65c - 130c ~4.35v (can be safely charged to 4.35v per cell) for a single cell rc model and say run in a hubsan quadcopter as a example provided it fits. This would be a massive improvment over the stock batterys of most single cell quads right? slightly higher volts with high discharge giving way more power at a cost of weight.
@Painless360
@Painless360 8 жыл бұрын
+Side85Winder Possibly, something to look at as these batteries become more popular.. Happy flying!
@skygirl341
@skygirl341 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you this was very informative I have a bike I’ve been building the last couple months and I have to hover board batteries both 37 V and 20 A and I’ve been trying to figure out if I can connect both positives and negative’s together and then charge both of them together as well as discharge as they don’t have a second set of connectors but really just a positive and a negative
@polarpl247
@polarpl247 4 жыл бұрын
If you do that, you will fry your batteries
@gaphonso
@gaphonso 8 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have a micro quad that use 1s Lipo, I was wondering if there is a probleme if I get my 2s lipo and set in parallel cel 1 and cel 2 so I will transform my 2s lipo in 1s . Do you see any problem with this ? Thanks in advanced.
@Painless360
@Painless360 8 жыл бұрын
In theory, no. Be very careful and check everything many times before plugging in the cells and then plugging in the new 'battery' into the model
@hiker6798
@hiker6798 4 жыл бұрын
Another clear video - nice work! Thanks
@monsta21cb
@monsta21cb 10 жыл бұрын
ok i have a esc that has a y splitter for series 2x2s to make 4s but i bought some 4s batteries that was on sale how can i make a splitter to run just the 4s when i want to
@qdog9197
@qdog9197 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks... easy to learn just subscribed
@veebuk8522
@veebuk8522 6 жыл бұрын
How should i wire 3 lipos(series) im not sure how to connect those wires
@BWWGL9
@BWWGL9 9 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm wondering does a Electric R.C. motor run faster with more Volt or more AMPs. Say a 11.1 is running a electric r.c. motor that can handle up to 35volt. What would make it run Faster VOLTS or more AMPs ?
@Painless360
@Painless360 9 жыл бұрын
If you watch my other video - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q7Klp7CgzZq4pJs.html - you'll see that the speed of the motor is directly related to the voltage. The motor will draw less current with a higher voltage too. Be careful to reduce the size of the prop used when you increase the voltage. Happy flying!
@SamuelShezzer
@SamuelShezzer 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot man, made this really clear! 👌
@faboxbkn
@faboxbkn 8 жыл бұрын
thank you very much, simple and straightforward!
@yourstruly9340
@yourstruly9340 7 жыл бұрын
2nd question. Is there any negative effect on serializing a 4s with a 5s of same caliber ??
@ysar60
@ysar60 4 жыл бұрын
when you place multiple batteries for an r/c car, does the battery C rating has to match? example if I used a 2S lipo 25C plus a 4s lipo 50C rating to have 6S lipo is that ok? or would both batteries have to have 50 c rating?
@Painless360
@Painless360 4 жыл бұрын
Please see the later version of the video linked in the description. It answers a lot of the common questions in this comment section..
@clumsydonkey332
@clumsydonkey332 4 жыл бұрын
Are there any dangers when wiring lipos together? Should each lipo be wired to their own ESC or do we wire the ending plug to one ESC?
@Painless360
@Painless360 4 жыл бұрын
You should always take care when connecting Lipo batteries. How you connect them would depend on the model... best of luck
@judelabago8851
@judelabago8851 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 lipo batteries 25c each. if I'm going to connect them in series will they go 50c in total?
@rohangajbhare5273
@rohangajbhare5273 3 жыл бұрын
Tysm man. Its soo clear
@Orphanfanny
@Orphanfanny 6 жыл бұрын
Looking for help .Losi dbxl the car. Problem is got trunigy 7 way switch connected to 4 slot inn receiver to run lights Was working well with 7.4v 1700mah standard. So decided to upgrade to lipo 7.4v 3000 the unit will not work. The unit powers up runs cycle on toggle nothing. I thought it was faulty so bought another one. Same problem. Swap to standard works fine. Now thinking run car on lipo use standard for lights? Question is can you mix battery and how would I wire this. Didn't want these problems but I'm stuck. Be nice to run the lot off one battery but no idea why it won't work. Tried most basic things. Can you Help.
@Painless360
@Painless360 6 жыл бұрын
No idea why it won't work. The increased capacity of the battery shouldn't make any difference if he voltage is the same - strange..
@rogerrabbit4284
@rogerrabbit4284 2 жыл бұрын
What a great and helpful video Thank you
@waynegetkate9315
@waynegetkate9315 5 жыл бұрын
Painless360 Did you know that you should also have done a Parallel & Series wiring so that you get both Double the Voltage & Amps. Remember that you do NOT exceed the voltage of the ESC, else you will fry it. Connecting in parallel gives you more Flight time. Most big scale RC Helis require two 6S1p batteries wired in Series. I prefer to wire them up in both Parallel & Series. I just make sure I don't exceed the ESC Voltage period.
@Painless360
@Painless360 5 жыл бұрын
Yep - see later updated video (this original is VERY old!) ;)
@waynegetkate9315
@waynegetkate9315 5 жыл бұрын
@@Painless360 Cool, when is latest video coming out? If you have it, please provide the link.
@Painless360
@Painless360 5 жыл бұрын
All indexes and searchable. Google something like ‘lipo parallel painless360’ :)
@bobdole155
@bobdole155 5 жыл бұрын
this probably goes without saying, but Someone Who Isn't Me didn't realize that while connected in series you should NOT EVER connect the two battery balance connectors to a parallel charging board... according to Someone Who Isn't Me, the smoke of stupid will linger forever.
@utsobkumar265
@utsobkumar265 Жыл бұрын
which system of this two will help to increase DC motor rpm and torque also....?
@Painless360
@Painless360 Жыл бұрын
More voltage equals more RPM. If you want different torque, look at changing the motor... Happy flying
@lukeduplessis6341
@lukeduplessis6341 6 жыл бұрын
Instead of using connectors like you have can I just solder the positive of one battery and the negative of the other battery together and be left with a positive and negative?
@Painless360
@Painless360 6 жыл бұрын
You could..
@daryld1736
@daryld1736 4 жыл бұрын
can you connect 2 lipo batteries in series. when they have the onboard chip in side the battery case?
@Painless360
@Painless360 4 жыл бұрын
I'm only aware of an onboard chip in the BattGO batteries... Shouldn't make any difference.. Best of luck!
@theBodger
@theBodger 4 жыл бұрын
Clear and concise
@steviesblues7959
@steviesblues7959 4 жыл бұрын
Great video could you recommend some batteries to run in series to make up a 52volt 14/16 amp battery for my ebike build any info much appreciated.
@vekcorpestsolutions853
@vekcorpestsolutions853 7 жыл бұрын
I want to hook up 4 3s 8000mah lipos in series and in parallel ...to get 1 6s 22.2v battery is this possible?
@jetskier47
@jetskier47 7 жыл бұрын
which would give a linger flight. say 2 batt on a quad?
@Painless360
@Painless360 7 жыл бұрын
Batteries with more capacity are heavier so you don't get to use all of that extra power in flight time. Most pilots use 3s or 4s on their models now.. Best of luck!
@Pauwlas
@Pauwlas 8 жыл бұрын
How do I connect the batteries to keep the same voltage and amps, just to double the mAh?
@Painless360
@Painless360 8 жыл бұрын
After watching the video, what would your guess be?
@Pauwlas
@Pauwlas 8 жыл бұрын
I think i need to go in parallel
@Painless360
@Painless360 8 жыл бұрын
Yep, Parallel = same volts more mAh!
@Pauwlas
@Pauwlas 8 жыл бұрын
But it won't be to much amps for my device?
@Painless360
@Painless360 8 жыл бұрын
The amps are pulled on demand, but pushed into the device so it'll be fine..
@hokkorimokkori4384
@hokkorimokkori4384 7 жыл бұрын
in the race competition, we have to change the battery as the track is long, and they have to keep the video signal. im planning to use parallel XT60 method. However, is it safe enough to plug in the different voltage battery? e.g. when swapping 14.7V landing, keep plugged for video signal, and plug in 16.8V new battery. then take out the old 14.7 V. (probably few seconds that both battery connected each other) Is it a fairly safe way and wont damage the battery? as it is a simple XT60 connected into parallel, i dont think there is limit of current.
@Painless360
@Painless360 7 жыл бұрын
If you mean plugging in a battery in parallel with a very different voltage, then that's a bad idea.
@geraldbennett5181
@geraldbennett5181 9 жыл бұрын
hello.. im usind 3 22.2v lipo batteries for my 66.6v 15000mah i need.. but how do i connect them all together to build up my 66.6v ? please help me... i c splitters for 2 but for 3? is possible?
@Painless360
@Painless360 9 жыл бұрын
+Gerald Bennett happy to take you through it. See my website for the charges.
@khoshalpashteen3068
@khoshalpashteen3068 3 жыл бұрын
which setup would drain the battery faster the series or the parallel?
@Painless360
@Painless360 3 жыл бұрын
See the latest video link in description
@anubisdeathangel1093
@anubisdeathangel1093 3 жыл бұрын
Will adding a parallèle L’iPod cause more wattage and this burn the motor or circuit !?
@Painless360
@Painless360 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't work like that. See the newer version of the video linked in the description.. Happy flying
@bluewater7211
@bluewater7211 3 жыл бұрын
So that battery is the equivalent to a 12dc 20ah lead acid battery ?
@JenkoRun
@JenkoRun 6 жыл бұрын
I'm looking in to getting the "Cirrus SR22T 1.5m BNF Basic" but I want to get some good battery life out of it, I'm thinking of getting 2 "Li-ion 4S1P 14.8V 3500mAh ENDURO Advanced Lithium" Batteries and joining them but it adds to about a pound of weight to the already 3.6 pound plane, how well would the plane be able to handle that extra pound? Thanks.
@Painless360
@Painless360 6 жыл бұрын
Difficult to answer as I've never had one. But that sounds like an awful lot of additional weight for that size model...
@JenkoRun
@JenkoRun 6 жыл бұрын
'Guess I'll need to do some checking around. Thanks for the quick reply.
@shannonarmstrong3475
@shannonarmstrong3475 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks,most informative. After joining the batteries (Parallel) can you charge them as a single entity?
@rongeernaert1208
@rongeernaert1208 4 жыл бұрын
Clear learning video, but what happens if 2 differend 4S accu's are used, one 4200 mah and one 4000 mah are they middeld 4100 ?
@Painless360
@Painless360 4 жыл бұрын
Depends on how you connect them. Please see the updated version of this video - link in description
@MichaelRHead-zv2zf
@MichaelRHead-zv2zf 8 жыл бұрын
Say i have a 6s lipo and i have it charged to 25 volts and i want to run another battery to it in parallel, but its only charged to 23 volts when i plug it in. Is this going to short circuit something?
@Painless360
@Painless360 8 жыл бұрын
+Michael R. Head Be very careful when connecting them as the voltage difference will force a rush of current from the higher voltage battery into the lower one. With only the internal resistance to keep the amperage down. Try and get them as close you can before connecting to reduce this. Best of luck.
@gustavbork4664
@gustavbork4664 6 жыл бұрын
Very good explained
@shoodheshoodhe7903
@shoodheshoodhe7903 Жыл бұрын
Can I connect two 3s 1500mah 25c in parallel to use my scratch build rc plane
@Painless360
@Painless360 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Is it a 3s 3000mah pack you want?
@premwarule5198
@premwarule5198 4 жыл бұрын
Can i use lippo batteries of different capacity and different discharge rate in parellel
@Painless360
@Painless360 4 жыл бұрын
Nope. You can but it'll cause issues with different discharge rates...
@rosinstein1501
@rosinstein1501 5 жыл бұрын
So if I understand correctly parallel will accomplish more range and more operating time @ the voltage of one battery and series will give more volts or more punch or Higher output demands and the mAh of one battery?
@Painless360
@Painless360 5 жыл бұрын
Both provide more useable energy for the model. It's how that's available to the model that changes. The higher voltage will turn the brushless motors faster so you do need to reduce the prop size normally. See the newer video on this topic for more details.. Best of luck!
@allcav3607
@allcav3607 Жыл бұрын
I have 755275 lithium flat batteries. Each are 3.7 v. how do I connect them to make 7.4. Every time I try, they catch on fire. Does the bms need to stay on them?
@Painless360
@Painless360 Жыл бұрын
Not sure, I don't use packs with BMS on them here... Best of luck!
@samuelvb
@samuelvb 8 жыл бұрын
can I connect two identical batteries in parallel and use one lipo alarm connected in balancer connector with a Y cable? (one Y cable to power connector and other Y cable to balancer port)
@Painless360
@Painless360 8 жыл бұрын
It would sort of work but not well as you're only monitoring the cells on the battery you're connected to, and while that is useful, won't spot if one of the cells on the other pack is in trouble.. Best of luck!
@AzRavnGrl
@AzRavnGrl 9 жыл бұрын
If you kept clips on your cables, could you switch configurations back & forth (parallel to series to parallel) depending on your needs? Assuming one's solar power & inverter --if used-- would be adequate either way, would switching like this cause any damage to anything? Just curious...Thank you.
@mrburton9096
@mrburton9096 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, very helpful. I'm planning to buy a 6S 16000 mAh battery to power a ~8A motor for a robot I am building... I tought it could power it for 2 hours but it has 10C written too...so does it mean the battery is capable of 160A? Can I power my motor for 20 hours with that battery? Sorry if it sounds dumb but I'm new in LiPo(s) Thank you again
@Painless360
@Painless360 7 жыл бұрын
The videos in the 'Introduction to Remote Control' covers many of the basics. a 16000mAh pack will provide 16 Amps for an hour, 32 Amps for 30 mins, 64 Amps for 15 mins etc. The 10C on the pack means that it can deliver 16,000mAh x 10C = 160amps max. Not sure how big the wires on it are! :D
@Gerleg08
@Gerleg08 5 жыл бұрын
@@bldjln3158 2 hours
@jamestishner
@jamestishner 4 жыл бұрын
If I was just looking for a longer run time, which would I do?
@Painless360
@Painless360 4 жыл бұрын
Parallel. See the later version of the video... Link in description.
@jamestishner
@jamestishner 4 жыл бұрын
@@Painless360 Thank you!
@vincentcolella8914
@vincentcolella8914 8 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm using 2 - 6s , 5000Mah LiPo's in series for a total of the 24volts you mention but my flight times are short. (130c rated per EDF MFG recommendations)is it possible to add a third battery in Parallel after the series connection to gain more Mah and thus longer flights? Vince
@Painless360
@Painless360 8 жыл бұрын
+Vince C not like that. I'd look at upgrading to a battery that's the right voltage and capacity for the job. Best of luck!
@narendra848
@narendra848 4 жыл бұрын
Hello i have a query... i used 3 old mobile batteries of 3.7 volt 6Amp (BM47) to power my diy bldc helicopter. when i connect these batteries in parallel thinking that current will increase but it slightly increases to 6-8Amps, when i connected it in series it gives 15 Amps as well voltage increase to 12.6(should be) .... but why current increased in series connection ? can you guide me with this.
@Painless360
@Painless360 4 жыл бұрын
More voltage will push a higher current in a simple resistive circuit... If the model is brushless then that is unusual..
@narendra848
@narendra848 4 жыл бұрын
@@Painless360 thanks
@yudhapahlevi975
@yudhapahlevi975 8 жыл бұрын
how to discharge rate "C"? remain the same 10C or turn into 20C?
@Painless360
@Painless360 8 жыл бұрын
The C rating is how fast you can discharge the battery...
@izaaczac3682
@izaaczac3682 5 жыл бұрын
what should i use,parallel or series for gel blaster
@longbowandwarbowcraftingbo2859
@longbowandwarbowcraftingbo2859 4 жыл бұрын
hello great video, i want to connect several lipo rc packs together for a ebike build but i want know do i remove each bms chip from each pack to install a big bms overall or do i just run the lupis with no bms and use a balance charger? if you help that would be fantastic
@Painless360
@Painless360 4 жыл бұрын
No idea, the packs I'm using here are not chipped. Best of luck!
@shiwanisrivastava6716
@shiwanisrivastava6716 6 жыл бұрын
Will it be safe to connect batteries of different c rating and different mAh but same voltage in series
@Painless360
@Painless360 6 жыл бұрын
Not really, these days batteries are so cheap that it's easy to get the right size capacity and voltage you want. Best of luck!
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