Can't agree more

I need to disagree, i used angular for over a year and in my opinion its just overengineered, all that useless boilerplate code that makes your code less readable, i hate it. When i tried something else like svelte or vue it was just so much more productive, instead of annoting as component and linking the style and template you just create the specifc tag and can go.

agree. Just because complexity to learn Angular it doesn't mean its not great.

right bcz angular ki based on ts...✅

Yeah React being more of a library without opinions is great at times but can also get messy with lots of extra dependencies. I do think this can be entirely controlled with good engineering practices/leadership though.

Bruh, angular got an if else function last year. They have no JSX support. Their core library is waaayyyyy behind. Also good luck with SEO.

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I agree; it's just popular, which is good, but try to do a fetch request in React, and it is a lot of boilerplate. Somebody can say, add Tanstack query, yeah, this is React, adding a bunch of third-party libraries to make it useful.

Yeah that’s nice, although it isn’t very hard to create your own custom CLI to do the same thing for whatever your chosen framework is

​@@ConnerArdmanoh. I'm not at that level of programming yet. I just recently started learning the basics again after a 8-10 months break (only doing a little bit here and there). If I don't constantly use it, I forget it pretty quickly.

It's easier than you think.@@hawkeye312

nope for large scale, hard to implement complex ui logic

@@yehaa00 yeah complex ui is hard to implement..with react its hard to implement even not complex ui xd

for the looks yeah, but the final output says it all

Dude. Vue literally avoided all the complexity that comes along with react and Angular *by design.* You could certainly find a better reason. But that's not it.@@yehaa00

As more of a library than a framework, you do have to provide some of your own structure. I don’t think that means it’s not good for big projects though. It’s used successfully for more big projects than anything else.

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I haven't used it much, so I don't have much of an opinion on it yet. It seems pretty cool at first glance though. Maybe I'll try it out in a future video 🤔

Love to hear it 🤝

I've never tried it, so I have no opinion on it 🤷‍♂️

@@ConnerArdman It's kinda like Svelte but it has some built in Adapters for Common API formats, I'd say its very intuitive and easy to learn when compared to the other frameworks, it sadly doesn't have an ecosystem of plugins as big as e.g. react, but you can do much with it.

Any argument?

@@j.r.r.tolkien8724 yes, it should be higher. I am not a Angular dev but is used by big companies. Put this at low.level shows that this guy in the video is just a main stream dev that look at what the hottest cool framework

​@@federicobau8651 Angular is dogshi. ah so framework used by big company = good? So Cobol is good? Nah man get outta here. What a weak argumentation. Angular is extremely overengineered. It instantly "fails" if you wanna create something out of the ordinary. By fails i mean it gets extremely complicated. Angular is trash and should be in the corresponding tier tbh.

@@user-jk5bg6mh5q developers that have such strong opinions on frameworks, especially the framework that are used massively are normally bad and average developers, probably you are not even a professional dev in fact. This is not how the real world works and how software is made. These framework all have good and bad but are just tool. If you go work for a company that used Angular guess what. You are going to use angular and shut your mounth. Dot. Your opinion dont count. Also, if you are not good at work with a framework, is probably you that are trash, not the framework. On the other hand, this guy of this channel is a representative of fake, average developer

@@user-jk5bg6mh5q also, you ask about cobol as if, rethorically is bad. And this shows how ignorant you are. Cobol has been around for probably longer than you and is still used. Is good for what has been designed for and if is still used probably

Vanilla is great for a lot of use cases, no need to introduce unnecessary bloat in sample sites. It’s just not mentioned because the point of the video is frameworks/libraries.

Technically true, but I don't think the semantics matter all that much. When starting a project, you would likely decide between frameworks like Angular/Vue/etc, and React would be considered to play basically the same role (just potentially with a need for other tools like Next to get the full "framework" experience). Even though it is technically a library, it doesn't make a lot of sense to compare React to things like underscore/lodash/jquery/etc.

Solid is great