It's so rare to find an intellectual and a theorist who has the courage to experiment with reality, to walk the talk, to challenge the theoretical through direct, courageous journeying. I resonate with Chris on his journey, and recognize so many truths. Mostly, from what life has shown me, psychedelics are not used as entheogens - tools to have the experience of the divine - and so much respect for taking the time to develop the ability to recall and digest the experience that cannot be put into words. I found that particularly impossible. I love the fact that equal weight is given to the heart and the head. Beautiful and surprising interview. Thank you Chris and Iain. Much respect. Keep shining.
@maxwellwilson994 жыл бұрын
I just finished his new book "LSD and the Mind of the Universe: Diamonds from Heaven". It was one of the most profound books I have ever read. I highly highly recommend it.
@natashawhite46072 жыл бұрын
I read it in August 2020 when I was recovering from suicidal depression through anxiety and stress and questioning the point of absolutely everything. This book fundamentally shifted my world view.
@mailjeffwebb2 жыл бұрын
I have also just finished reading this book. A agree completely with you maxwellwilson. A very profound book. It is also very sincere and heartfelt.
@panicsum6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful discussion. Around two years ago I had the most life changing experience with LSD. I've thought about it almost on a daily basis ever since. It feels almost like, with hindsight, I had opened a door into a timeless place of learning and infinite love. For what seemed like seconds in our earth time, my consciousness was taken to a distant galaxy, where I was left to stare at a moon like planet for centuries, alone and lonely. I turned my head to the right and I was once more back in this earthly realm. It's so difficult to place into words that profound feeling of protracted time, and its subsequent effect on my being. I've tried to describe a small part of the 12 hour or so experience. To say it was without doubt one of the single most important days of my life, would be an understatement.
@moesypittounikos5 жыл бұрын
When you said I turned my head back to the right and it changed I'm reminded of Swedenborg. Swedenborg used to see one state then he'll turn to the right and it'll change. Very trippy reading.
@pippagatz4 жыл бұрын
Sounds very much like what some nde'rs experience
@anonymous31744 жыл бұрын
I have experienced something very similar. It's like human language is too clunky and inadequate to articulate what you experienced
@panicsum4 жыл бұрын
@@anonymous3174 . Exactly that.
@E-Kat3 жыл бұрын
Has this experience change your life in any way? Did you do things you'd not have done otherwise? I'd love to experience this too, so much. Thank you.
@tomidavidson92966 жыл бұрын
I took LSD every weekend for 4 weeks in a row back in 1971 with the serious intention of wanting to know what ‘IT’ is all about. It was life changing. Eye opening.
@E-Kat3 жыл бұрын
Please can you tell us more?
@amaziahyaohsharal98402 жыл бұрын
That’s not a good way to use it, your intervals are too close. Not enough time to reset your tolerance, not enough time to integrate what you learned.
@evesperspective76623 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this delicious message of discovering that "when life uses you in that delicious way, when that cross-fertilization takes place, it is the sweetest feeling to me." "We are dissolved into the crystalline nature of God." It makes me think that we are the facets of a diamond reflecting and shining our unique light into the darkness. The very highest and best to us all. Wow! Great interview.
@thehitman16483 жыл бұрын
I am a very strong believer in afterlife. Many years ago I had a very close friend. Who has now passed away.back in 2001 on the last day I visited my friend. When I’m not on his door he invited me in and he told me he had something to tell me. He asked me to sit down he took my hand and told me I must listen and I must pass these words on to everyone.As he held my hand he was crying with joy. He told me that he was woken up in the night by this bright light .and this figure walked out of the bright light . And he told me that Jesus that you see on the cross does not look anything like he does on the cross.but there is a God. He passed away the next day.?
@sawmill1234566 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for his new book. I hope he doesn't distill all his experiences into major themes. I like to hear the raw experiences of the beings he met and what else he turned into! What was his kundalini awakening like? Was the energy overwhelming even scary at times? If Bhagavad Gita is called The Song of God what song was he singing? ... I can't stop loving you !!! OM KALI MA!
@martinschmidtinasia4 жыл бұрын
No, he avoids that - tries to tell the raw experiences. Fabulous book!! Easily one of best reads ever!
@jkphsgme8b3 жыл бұрын
sawmill123456 I too wonder what his kundalini awakening was like. Mine has been extremely intense, even terrifying quite a bit of the time. Jai Shakti
@Adele.N3 жыл бұрын
Your interview with Chris Bache is probably the most fascinating interview I’ve heard in my life. Much gratitude, please have him back for more. Now with you doing interviews not being in person, could you do more without waiting for people to be able to get to your studio?
@nigelericogden32002 жыл бұрын
“LSD and the Mind of the Universe” is a wonderful book. I found the book very helpful Christopher, so I say thank you for your endeavour. 🙏
@purpleman19742 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think it is one of the most important books ever written.
@lilacwine19716 жыл бұрын
Wonderful. Thank you so much. Just what I needed.
@misubi4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful book. Absolutely amazing. Thank you Chris.
@jeanettecarleson33243 жыл бұрын
Soo wonderful.... Thank you so much Chris for sharing and for this channel! ☺️🙏💙✨
@GrahamBolt-kv4zi Жыл бұрын
Hello I hope you're safe over there? I hope this year brings happiness prosperity, love and peace all over the world. I would love us to be good friends in honesty and in trust so as time goes on it will bring something great for us in the future, hope you don't mind? I'm Engineer Graham Bolt from Nashville Tennessee, where are you from
@omarmiz4 жыл бұрын
One of the most well-spent hours ever
@MichielSlegten6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful interview Chris and Ian, a lot of recognition from my path with holotropic breathwork. That went on to the path of Dzogchen (which has the body of light as its ultimate goal) and Lucid dreaming as an important preliminary stage. Chris try to have a talk to Lopon Tenzin Namdak Rinpoche now that he is still alive. Thanks
@spyorgclubbord95204 жыл бұрын
Michiel Slegten have you ever thought of trying holotropic breathwork while on psychedelics? It can take you incredibly far even with low doses just to enhance the breathwork. I highly recommend it to anyone into breathwork who is able to use psychedelics safely.
@robertbindler24816 жыл бұрын
👍Thank you one of the best interview so unusual and personal exploration of Chris a must see . Thanks Yan to bring this interview on conscious Tv 🙏
@margaretdunlevy20322 жыл бұрын
So glad you can finally share your work. I look forward to learning more.
@mcarbone46 жыл бұрын
This interview and conversation is so fascinating. So many layers that I need to watch again to really absorb them all !! Thank you!!!
@bostrickland49707 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing have a great new year 2024
@wings25853 жыл бұрын
Great discussion about using LSD to advance one's level of Consciousness. The whole interview was very grounded and holistic. Thanks
@E-Kat3 жыл бұрын
The only question is, when you have advanced what do you do with it?
@wings25853 жыл бұрын
@@E-Kat that's the challenge and also beauty of it i guess. How do you express those realizations, while having this physical body experience.
@E-Kat3 жыл бұрын
@@wings2585 I suppose one has to remember the experience and to be true to himself.
@jennyrook5 жыл бұрын
A wonderful and moving interview. I wonder what music Chris listened to.....
@jennysteves2 жыл бұрын
Such an inspiring conversation. Thank you for this beautiful gift to us all. 🙏🏽♥️🌌
@niteengupte2 жыл бұрын
This process of opening and closing, the 'spandha' of universe propels form to higher expressions of the Dharmakaya. Carlos Castaneda wrote about the process of recollection. All of us get this ah ha moments when a memory of experience awakens and we think 'Ah so, that what it meant'. Years later we may recollect the same experience and yet another layer of meaning is unpealed revealing another dimension of understanding.
@kirkby626 жыл бұрын
The opacity of the teaching mind overwhelmed me. Would have been neat to have heard of Chris's experiences under LSD but we didn't get there.
@presatito4 жыл бұрын
His books will explain these topics.
@ApolloMesropDodoryan2 жыл бұрын
This Interview should have 14million views !!! 20years from now it will. Our Extraterrestrial Counterparts will be among us by then; and They are indeed very interested in this work. Shamanism is becoming Very Popular among our Extraterrestrial Friends out there as we speak.
@niteengupte2 жыл бұрын
Since childhood one question has kept bubbling up in my mind: the bodhisattva vow is to work for the enlightenment of all forms of the divine from humans to the tiniest of flora, fauna and funga. So what would the relationship between all the awakened forms of biota be like?
@AlexHop12 жыл бұрын
Thank you--I got so much out of this!
@artawhirler3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most interesting things I have ever seen on KZfaq! Thanks!
@joseluisgomezsoler76013 жыл бұрын
@volunteerz 600 micrograms of lsd, 73 times, in a serious, consistent way.
@markostrom82156 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this!
@megawavez6 жыл бұрын
This interview brought a smile :-)
@sanneholm20106 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this.
@sawmill1234566 жыл бұрын
Wow a lot of growth in one lifetime! Who says drugs aren't good for you in the right setting. He accomplished what many spend many, many lifetimes trying to achieve He didn't speak of love I wonder what he discovered about that?
@fuqupal3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't classify it as "drugs" unless I was promoting the world government's war on personal development to keep us confined in a slave mentality
@workemail54293 жыл бұрын
this guys book "LSD and the Mind of the Universe: Diamonds from Heaven". IS GREAT!!!!! reality just goes on infinitely forever in all directions it seems
@jalmuli5 жыл бұрын
Excellent, caught the right moment.
@dianamjackson3 жыл бұрын
This was absolutely fantastic. Thank you!
@MariaJ19583 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed it! Thank you
@interrobang50006 жыл бұрын
I love your channel. I learn something from every interview.
@noahjuanjuneau95982 жыл бұрын
It should come as no surprise that in the Age of Materialism The Avatar would manifest as a Substance. .
@amaziahyaohsharal98402 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who pushes LSD much like I do.
@mariontsangarides53875 жыл бұрын
I tried buying books on amazon and not there. Ian can you tell me where they can be purchased please. Great interview . Many thanks
@paulmetdebbie4475 жыл бұрын
The ego is like the mythical dragon. If you attack it, or feed it (with attention or psychedelic drugs) it will multiply or change it's appearances. Then you are still lost in it, and even more, no matter how special it feels. Transcending is about learning to ignore the ego and reside in the stillness of the self. There is no shortcut via the ego, not even one that takes 20 years and seems scientific or methodic. That's all mind. Enlightenment is not for the ego, it's from the ego. Just meditate and experience the stillness you are.
@JohnJesus5 ай бұрын
There's only one problem... you didn't actually understand REALITY -- you only saw/experienced the inner workings of the metaphysical machine called "Mind"
@ketchup53446 жыл бұрын
It's a shame mdma (ecstacy) is so hard to get hold of-certainly in it's pure form, not cut with some poisson or other-because frankly, on the occasion I have had it, it has been the most expansive possitive experience I ever had.
@spyorgclubbord95204 жыл бұрын
David Wilder use the dark web you can easily get pure stuff there if you use a well reviewed vendor
@lizwise31956 жыл бұрын
But it makes me feel excluded. How do I get this consciousness given that we don’t all have such a teacher nor access to psychedelics?
@ybaos3 жыл бұрын
holotropic breathing for instance, search stanislav grof
@BeautyInYOU5833 жыл бұрын
You have the internet and videos.
@ThomasDoubting53 жыл бұрын
Any form of suffering social isolation starvation all the things that humans are supposed to experience but avoid like the plague understandably.
@Queenie-the-genie4 жыл бұрын
So that is what transpersonal means. thank you...
@norabarnard66796 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! You can reach out to me anytime. I know exactly what you are expressing. Living in 2 worlds is extremely challenging.
@forloveorbusiness53202 ай бұрын
How often can we do it?
@batmandeltaforce5 жыл бұрын
What is strange is his experience was into a deeper self, inner trip. Mine was very different and opposite in that I was outside myself, seeing "me" as I truly am:) Very therapeutic.
@spyorgclubbord95204 жыл бұрын
StringGene the deeper you go the less it becomes about the self and the more it becomes about the one whole
@fuqupal3 жыл бұрын
Do you realize how much acid this guy took? We're way past heroic doses here
@bennguyen13135 жыл бұрын
What is that around Christopher's neck? On the "Adventures Through The Mind" podcast, he mentions (1h7m) that his first wife studied meditation at a 3 year retreat in Santa Fe, New Mexico.. anyone know the name of the center? Is it Henry Shukman's Mountain Cloud Zen Center from the book "Zen the Authentic Gate"? In that interview, Chris also mentions that he's looking forward to connecting to the infinite when he dies.. so does he believe one's consciousness as an individual exists after dying? If so, it sounds terrifying.. a few trillion years fine, but I'd opt-out of a consciousness that never ends! Regarding the 550ug lsd dose, what would be the equivalent in Psilocybin? A hero's dose 5g? Paul Stamets on the Tim Ferris' podcast talks about his time taking 20g of mushroom! But how many grams of (dried?) mushrooms would you need to get an active dose of 2g? Or thoughts on Jim Fadiman's micro-dose protocol (10ug of lsd every 3rd day)? 25mg of Psilocybin requires 5g of (dried?) mushrooms? What about 1P-LSD? It's seems as it's inexpensive and legal in many places (Canada, Germany, etc). BTW, Iain McNay kinda looks like Edward Muscare / Lars Ulrich!
@spyorgclubbord95204 жыл бұрын
Ben Nguyen to compare LSD dosage to psilocybin you really need to account for strain variations because some strains can be 5 times more potent than others. 1P is about equally potent to LSD, it is theorized that it is a prodrug to LSD and converts to LSD in your system
@E-Kat3 жыл бұрын
If you're asking these questions that means you should stay away from this stuff. Only use it when supervised by an experienced person.
@moesypittounikos5 жыл бұрын
I listened to this interview and then Chris on Batgap with Michael Pollen. On Batgap I found Chris to be holding back and to be somewhat apologetic. He was afraid to go into metaphysical explanations and he said it must be all in nature and even scientific. Anyway, we all self-censore now and again.
@presatito4 жыл бұрын
The batpap host is not really pro psychedelics from what I've seen (good guy with good intentions overall it seems) and this could possibly be the reason Chris didn't open up fully. LSD is a non-specific amplifier only and the states of consciousness he went into are "real" as real as advanced meditation.
@fuqupal3 жыл бұрын
Gotta explain shit at their level or they won't understand it and dismiss it
@SilenceInTheBliss5 жыл бұрын
How can this exact work be done without psychedelics?
@liminalgriffin84193 жыл бұрын
Stan Groffs Holotropic Breathwork...
@fuqupal3 жыл бұрын
Deep meditation
@chips19726 жыл бұрын
A dude likes this.
@christopherhamilton36218 ай бұрын
Entirely subjective & one-sided, surely? I think it’s a valid approach, but with an N=1, how universal can it really be?
@greendholia52063 жыл бұрын
Reading this guys book I almost expected to see the buddha himself caught on video tape or something but chris bache seems to be just an ordinary guy with fears and desires like everyone else...? Either LSD is just giving him some kind of mental circus and his experiences weren't that real....either my perception is off and I'm looking for the wrong things....or maybe buddha was really just that great and holy of a person that he's gone even so far beyond bache that he's even further? But reading the book it seemed like Bache went super far out to the diamond light, somehow buddha integrated the diamond light more into his daily life then? My main question is basically how can Bache go through all the things he did in his book and still seem like a completely normal guy? I was expecting a radiant glow, some kind of holy aura maybe, maybe reality just becomes more ordinary the further out you go? So that would mean the furthest out people are the ones in the most completely ordinary lives of all? Idk just some thoughts. I was kind of expecting a sadhguru, ram dass, dalai lama type....interesting how reality is so different than what you expect. Maybe I need to see more clearly.
@justbreakingballs2 жыл бұрын
I think you are barking up the wrong tree there looking for some sort of glow or special signs. He is a normal human just like all the humans you mention. It makes no difference if you light candles and wear a robe or eat a sandwich in shorts and flip flops. Don't look for anything special from anyone.
@noahjuanjuneau95982 жыл бұрын
@Green Dholia - If I may…? Reading your comment note that Chris does not ‘meet your expectations’ - Therein is the key. Expectations lead us all to disillusionment. By giving up expectations we become free to experience and accept what IS. Give up expectations and stop making judgements… they are impediments. In Bache’s defense I would point to what a sweet ‘normal’ guy HH the Dalai Lama is… Buddha Gautama and Jesus of Nazareth were both enlightened and very humble as well… wearing simple robes, dusty sandals, hanging with common folk… except our ‘expectations’ want them to be something other…? Missing the moon by staring at the pointing finger.
@VevoKIlledUtube6 жыл бұрын
Id take some LSD with this guy.
@spyorgclubbord95204 жыл бұрын
VevoKIlledUtube taking it alone or with a most trusted sitter is usually the best. Somebody once said as long as there is somebody else in the room the facade will always stand. I and many others find we can go far deeper when we are alone.
@evaw5516 жыл бұрын
People have big imagination and hallucinations. I run away from such.
@ladhamohamed40086 жыл бұрын
Short cuts help us to end up in mental hospitals,thats why we need a Guru who has walked the path.
@jamestucker48006 жыл бұрын
lol
@spyorgclubbord95204 жыл бұрын
You don’t have to choose one or the other they go hand in hand for many people. Many very experienced spiritual people would never have gotten there without having been opened up to it by psychedelics at first.
@fuqupal3 жыл бұрын
@@spyorgclubbord9520 I don't think acid is for the common laymen. They don't have the spiritual maturity for it
@Benstephan1236 жыл бұрын
chemical substances do not give you enlightenment period.
@jamestucker48006 жыл бұрын
Neither does ego
@sawtoothiandi6 жыл бұрын
how do you know?!
@Benstephan1236 жыл бұрын
seumas Broderick I know that I know. there is no short cuts you need to do the work my friend.
@jamestucker48006 жыл бұрын
You haven't read Chris Bache's book then, where he goes over the inner purification process which occurs commonly with psychedelics that transcends far beyond the individual.
@Benstephan1236 жыл бұрын
James Tucker I don't. need to borrow some one else experience. when YOU will have first hand experience then we can talk.