Good work, as always! Feel like I need to step up my game. A few other thoughts: I think I would say that while Luna was an extremely talented wrestler (and a very nice lady, believe it or not, I was booked on a show with her in 2003, she was very kind), I think the big shift in women's wrestling in the US was probably Alundra Blayze/Medusa Miceli and Bull Nakano. Fun fact: you mentioned Cutie Suzuki, but the original Master System game we knew as Pro Wrestling (with amazing cover art) was known in Japan as Gokuaku Domei Dump Matsumoto. It was a licensed All Japan Women game featuring joshi legend Dump Matsumoto alongside Bull Nakano, the Jumping Bomb Angels and more! Finally, in answer to your question, I'm not SURE who the woman with Gorilla is, but I've speculated (with others) that it could be Stephanie Wiand. This would be a little weird, since she was more of a show host in the studio or backstage interviewer, and didn't last long in the Federation but the timeframe fits.
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Dude, thank you for the awesome comment. I got about 1/2 way down and was like... what? I never knew that about Pro Wrestling on the Master System. Very cool fun fact my friend. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on Luna, and I think you may be correct in your assessment of Wiand being the announcer. I would like to confirm so we shall see if I can get a response. I had around 4-5 possibilities and she wasn't even on my radar. Man, I feel like I'm slacking.
@jasonjayalap3 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi I was going to say Stephanie Wiand as well. Makes zero sense, but that mouth and red lip stick is unique.
@orinanime3 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi it is Stephanie Wiand
@RoyStantz2 жыл бұрын
Wiand has massive beaver teeth, bigger than Kevin Dunn's.
@MrAdrenaline19824 жыл бұрын
17:56 The woman with Monsoon is Stephanie Wiand. She was co-host of WWF Mania around that time.
@RoyStantz2 жыл бұрын
And she had big beaver teeth.
@WrestlingWithGaming4 жыл бұрын
Great video, as usual. Though I'm concerned that Hogan from the genesis splash screen stole my soul.
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Hogan was my main argument for superiority of games back in the day. I think he's still helping the CD-i in that regard.
@TheEddieJ19844 жыл бұрын
I beleive the women announcing in the 32X version is Stephanie Wyant, who was hosting WWF Mania with Todd Pettingal at the time (late 94 to 95)
@sparklebrite29654 жыл бұрын
Yep spot on
@Larry4 жыл бұрын
I had the Sega version of Royal Rumble as a kid, and can always remember discovering a bug where you could never have a Lex Luger Vs Crush one on one match in the game, it would constantly crash the game. But I did love (and buy all the games) was so excited for Super Wrestlemania as a kid, I imported a US copy and sawed the sides off so it would fir in my PAL SNES. Didn't work though >.> Also, there's some great artifacts for an never included additional character in boh Royal Rumble games (might have been Acclaim's much loved "You" character in WWF games) and the 32X Raw also had Kwang as a final boss.
@orderofmagnitude-TPATP4 жыл бұрын
Edgy one...."hello youuuuu"
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
That's such a sad story. The only thing I would have that's even close is purchasing a Master System game only to find out the Master System and Genesis were not compatible.
@dougr.86534 жыл бұрын
Helloooo Larry.
@adamadkins40284 жыл бұрын
The female announcer on Raw is supposed to be Stephanie Wiand, who was the co-host for WWF Mania at the time. Kind of a forgotten personality and weird that they put her commentating with Gorilla Monsoon, but I believe I've seen this confirmed elsewhere. Neither Moolah or Sherri were commentators.
@metrorican4 жыл бұрын
This was a great video! I always enjoy comparison videos for games that I either own, or might be looking to get into. Thanks for the care & quality that you put into this, and other videos of yours that I've seen as well. As someone who owns Super Wrestlemania, Royal Rumble, and Raw on both Genesis & SNES, it's always interesting to go back and pick up on the little differences & improvements for each successive game. I'm thinking about differences like The Undertaker having a slightly paler skin tone as opposed to the others on the roster on SNES versions, or the steel chair changing colors whenever it's replaced after being bent over someone's skull (also on SNES). I also love the little improvements in WWF Raw, such as CPU controlled partners (which you can take control of anytime by pressing 2 buttons on your gamepad depending on the console), as well as health bars for the tag partners standing on the apron. This is especially useful for Survivor Series matches, so that you don't accidentally tag in someone who ends up having worse health than you do. These are some of the things that I didn't pay too much attention to playing these games for the first time at the age of 11 or 12, but have really come to appreciate as a 38 year-old gamer. Again, thanks for the great video, and I'll be keeping an eye out for future videos as a new subscriber!
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the awesome comment and for sharing your thoughts. It's always appreciated.
@socialmedia78124 жыл бұрын
Its been a long week here at work i am currently i am on my lunch break watching jenovi! This made my day 👌🏾👍🏽
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
You telling me this made my day. Thank you.
@socialmedia78124 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi your content is super high quality its just a matter being discovered by more people.. The quality and presentation is perfect.
@JMaxwell854 жыл бұрын
A couple of magazine previews for Royal Rumble on SNES showed Kamala as part of the roster. He ended up being cut for unknown reasons, though he would appear in the spin-off Rage in the Cage. One of these previews also mentioned there would be 14 wrestlers in Royal Rumble, but the game we got has 12, so there was an additional unknown wrestler cut.
@dougr.86534 жыл бұрын
As usual, another excellent video from Jenovi. Thanks a lot, mate.
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Doug, I appreciate the support.
@RetroGamePlayers4 жыл бұрын
This was awesome, I really like the category screens you made that resemble the Sega 90s branding, welcome to the next level!
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks amigo. I appreciate that. Hope you're doing well up North. You setting up at PRGE this year? If so, I'll be sure to hang at your booth for a bit.
@RetroGamePlayers4 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi I'll be there, but I think I'm gonna skip the booth. It's so much work and I want to enjoy myself a bit more! But yeah man we should hang out for sure though
@jameswalt14 жыл бұрын
Counted frames to cross the ring... Legendary attention to detail brother!
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching James, always appreciate your support.
@rocznik83 Жыл бұрын
You have a great selection of sports games in your videos. Whenever I`m in doubt whether I should go with the Mega Drive or a SNES port, I always end up here and find exactly what I`m looking for. ✌
@OmarJames4 жыл бұрын
Just here to comment and support my man jenovi! Most underrated channel on youtube!
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Omar, you're the man. I appreciate your support.
@RoyStantz2 жыл бұрын
When AVGN himself James Rolfe "reviewed" the 16-bit WWF games, all he did was bash them for being published by LJN, and claiming that "Vince McMahon should be ashamed for whoring out his product to such inept game designers". Come on, James, like Vince McMahon had time on his hands in 1992-1994 to tell LJN, Flying Edge, and Acclaim what he'd like to see in children's video-games based on his wrestling company. Around the time the 16-bit WWF games came out, Vince had bigger things to worry about, such as the 1994 steroid trial and Jesse Ventura's VHS royalties lawsuit. You see, not *EVERYTHING* that LJN did was bad, and certainly not the 16-bit WWF games or their action figures; those and the ThunderCats toyline were awesome.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries4 жыл бұрын
Good video but I'm surprised you did not mention him that the Royal rumble game was the first WWF game to feature the wrestlers entrance music.
@googleboughtmee4 жыл бұрын
Great vid. These always felt so ropey because I wanted something that resembled the Technos arcades, but I still played them a lot because there was nothing else.
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Really, there were quite a few good wrestling games coming into '95. Then 3D hit and those games were mostly bad for a long, long while.
@googleboughtmee4 жыл бұрын
I guess I mean before 95. (Think by then I'd sold my 16-bit consoles and stopped watching wrestling). I did have Fire Pro but being all in Japanese it was hard to understand, and it's not the same without the WWF wrestlers in.
@rickyschmidt52723 жыл бұрын
The female commentator in the 32X version was Stephanie Wiand. She's a very forgettable part of WWF history and wasn't around very long, but that's who the woman with Gorilla Monsoon is! I really enjoyed this video. I love all of these games and they were a huge part of my childhood and I still fire them up once or twice a year, though at this point it's mostly just RAW on Genesis or 32X (depends on the day) that I devote my time to when I feel the itch. I will say though, that I loved RAW on Game Gear as a kid solely because it was the only version that had Macho Man and Crush. I still can't figure out how they were left out of the console versions!
@Jenovi3 жыл бұрын
I never could understand that either. Always a huge Macho Man fan
@Silanda2 жыл бұрын
That commentator in the 32X version always reminded me of Steven Tyler for some reason, even though it obviously wasn't. It's kind of strange that Macho was in any version if you think about it. He was gone from the company by the time the game was released, but Vince thought he was too old anyway, so since Raw started Macho had been largely sidelined into a commentary position, and if he did wrestle if was lower down the card. Maybe the devs were fans of the Macho/Crush feud that would probably have been going on while the game was in development.
@Islandswamp Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, I could win grapples. As an adult it seemed like a nightmare to win even one.
@JetFire04224 жыл бұрын
I think the female announcer was supposed to be Stephanie Wiand. She was a co-host on WWF mania around the mid-90s
@earthquake154 жыл бұрын
Luna wasn’t in wwf in 1992 so there was no way she could’ve been in super wrestlemania
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
I just read back over the interview where she talks about it. I think it may be a mistake on my part. She didn't actually name the game, but stated she was asked to appear in the first WWF game on a Nintendo system. I guess that could have been Wrestlemania for the NES. She had a lot of close friends high up in the WWF at the time. She may also be mistaken and the game in question is Royal Rumble. Unfortunately she's not around to ask and not enough details are known to effectivly run down the full story.
@JMaxwell854 жыл бұрын
I think Luna’s memory was all off. She didn’t debut in the WWF until 1993, so it couldn’t have been Wrestlemania for NES or Super WrestleMania. And she was probably too new to make it into Royal Rumble as she debuted around WrestleMania IX. Raw is the first WWF game on a Nintendo system she logically could have been in.
@deltatango-six79414 жыл бұрын
Great vid as usual, Jenovi! Keep up the good work.
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it.
@DaveVoyles4 жыл бұрын
I love the work you put into these comparisons!
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dave. I appreciate your long time support.
@sppspharmdude4 жыл бұрын
That cheeky Mike Krow. He's probably got a copy of Raw for the Xbox up there too that he flaunts as Goldust.
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
100% this is true.
@TheWarriorFrenzy4 жыл бұрын
Royal Rumble on Genesis and Snes remain my favorites. I didn't like the roster and goofy special moves they put in RAW. I was so disappointed with Rage in the Cage. I assumed tag team and rumble were included and they weren't. 20 man roster for nothing. I paid 60 for it and Kmart didn't accept Returns on opened software. I started renting at a higher rate after that.
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. Always enjoy hearing personal experiences and thoughts on these topics I cover.
@whogotbarslikethese75632 жыл бұрын
I had wwf raw for the genisis and loved it. Get yourself a 6 button controller for it and that's the best possible experience.
@florianklink29612 жыл бұрын
It's weird how some wrestlers in wwf raw do a steiner screwdriver as a normal move. The game didn't even include the steiner brothers.
@jonbourgoin1824 жыл бұрын
Accidentally running into guard rails and suplexing opponents too close to the ropes made for some hilarious fails when playing with a friend or two
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's easy to get excited and execute the "wrong" move.
@Mechtrekica3 жыл бұрын
very nice review, I never knew about the frame rate difference w/ super wrestlemania. I just wished super wrestlemania for Genesis had Undertaker instead of papa shango who really didn't last very long.
@Jenovi3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@bblythe19884 жыл бұрын
As a fan of video games and wrestling this is probably the best comparison yet. I may have missed it but aside from the 32x winning in audio it has the updated Luger theme. Also I agree the game gear version isn't so much fun it does offer special moves compared to Gameboy.
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Shoot, I missed that. I ended up ripping most of the music from the SNES with only a few tracks from the 32X. Lugar's I didn't even listen to. I'll be sure to check this out.
@Aragorn78844 жыл бұрын
Great video. Should do a vid like this for something like the MK series 🥰
@MrCalverino4 жыл бұрын
He did already
@Aragorn78844 жыл бұрын
@@MrCalverino there's more than one game though
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Man, that would be a massive video.
@Aragorn78844 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi true...but you would get "dem clickz" if you split it up 🤩🤗
@show-me-retro4 жыл бұрын
Well done brother
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks amigo.
@calamaty99632 жыл бұрын
I was hoping you had Luger’s finisher from the handhelds. To this day I haven’t seen it.
@yashamaga133 жыл бұрын
18:00 im gonna say that's Sherri Martell Edit - completely forgot about Stephanie Wiand! Yeah it definitely resembles her more than Sherri
@show-me-retro4 жыл бұрын
Was never much into wrestling video games but this was interesting nonetheless, nice job
@Bojanglez6674 жыл бұрын
Great video Jenovi, I really enjoyed/enjoy wrestlemania for the 32x. :)
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@inceptional4 жыл бұрын
Not having Hulk Hogan in the SNES version is one of the dumbest decisions I've ever seen.
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
So true!
@orderofmagnitude-TPATP4 жыл бұрын
JENNOVI SIR....you are as a channel considered - "A Hidden Gem....with 500MEGA POOOWWWEERRRR!!!"
@drgribb4 жыл бұрын
You're shitting me. I loved the Genesis soundtrack for Raw. :'( Also, still don't understand why you didn't include Wrestlemania the Arcade Game. Sure, it's different, but I think it's similar enough -- similar enough at least that I'll play Raw and Mania Arcade interchangeably when I have friends over that want to play a wwf genesis game. Anyway, sorry for my nitpicking. Nice video. Hooked me with the really well-done "unreleased" 32x videos. Am liking the other stuff on the channel. Surprised you don't have more subs. Wish I had discovered your channel sooner. Also, could've sworn the announcer opposite Jerry Lawler was supposed to be Vince McMahon, but I might be mixing it up with Wrestlemania Arcade. It was definitely mentioned in one of the manuals for those two games.
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Essentially, I did a fairly long standalone video on WrestleMania the Arcade Game. It was developed my Midway then ported by Acclaim to home consoles. It's really not connected to the other four games outside of containing the same license. It's also like comparing Ryu in Smash Bros to Ryu in Street Fighter II, not really a fair comparison as they are fairly different experiences. So ultimately, that's the reason I didn't include it here. Also, you're correct, McMahon is the commentator for Wrestlemania the Arcade game with actual voice commentary. Thanks for watching and once again, I appreciate the comment. PS, the 32X is like the Genesis, but done right music wise.
@drgribb4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I get what you mean. Thanks for taking the time to read my comment and reply to it! :) Yeah, I happen to really love the genesis' YM2612 sound. Just about every soundtrack I've heard from the 32X (pretty much all of them) has melted my ears off though. Just beautiful. Only reason I haven't really taken a dive on it yet is because most of the games I want on it, including games one would expect to be super common/cheap, are dumbass expensive, and I don't really rock with flashcarts. Am always fascinated by all the "what-ifs" and "coulda-beens" on it that never got finished/released!
@space_asylum4 жыл бұрын
Royal Rumble is the only game you need. Royal Rumble was awesome!! I loved bashing people with chairs. Hey I’m in this video, crazy! 😜
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
You are....? Where? I didn't see you!
@space_asylum4 жыл бұрын
Check your analytics for the spot where everybody drops out. Shouldn't be too hard to find.
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
@@space_asylum I looked at the 23rd minute marks like you suggested (when the views drop off). All I see is this handsome fella in a black hat. He looks like me.
@space_asylum4 жыл бұрын
At the 23rd minute mark? Your retention rate is making me rise.
@dinobravo41324 жыл бұрын
I believe the lady commentating is Sherri Martel only one that makes sense to me in that time period
@Gameboy-Unboxings2 жыл бұрын
Man I wanted to buy some of these for the Genesis but learning that all the wrestlers are the same height really really bothers me. I HATE stuff like that. Huge pet peeve.
@ez0540984 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these videos! I would love to see a Spider-man or X-Men version
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
I covered every single Spider-man game release in the 4th gen. Each game got a deep dive review and then I put together a ranking of the bunch. Not quite like these here, but they could be of interest. Also, I have plans of covering the X-men games down the road. Always was a fan.
@Godzilla19822 жыл бұрын
The female Commentator is Stephanie Wiand.
@jameswalt14 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!!!
@jameswalt14 жыл бұрын
Shit time to hook my 32x back up :) thanks again for such great content!
@zackschilling43764 жыл бұрын
I always thought this games got a bad rap. Me and my buddy would beat the hell out of a wrestler for like 30 minutes after we could of pinned him so we could "end his career". I mainly played SNES Royal Rumble but I would of loved Raw/RitC.
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
I did the exact same thing!
@BryanTruong4 жыл бұрын
Always impressive sir
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bryan, I appreciate that.
@kjuergens19852 жыл бұрын
I prefer Royal Rumble to Raw, because of the rosters (on both versions) and the pacing. I find Raw too chaotic, and the uniform height of the wrestlers stands out on Raw in a way it didn't on the previous installments. Also, Raw brings in unrealistic "mega moves" to a game that otherwise takes (dare I say) a simulation approach. I get it, Raw has the best graphics, the most modes, submissions and alternate pins, but it's always just been an un-fun mess to me.
@alexander_mejia4 жыл бұрын
Okay I know what we're doing next PRGE
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah!
@FrogTony2 жыл бұрын
I love how you pronounce Vachon!
@Jenovi2 жыл бұрын
Hey, this is not one of the two videos you were instructed to watch.
@FrogTony2 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi I already watched those...
@Jenovi2 жыл бұрын
@@FrogTony 😅
@MrCalverino4 жыл бұрын
Razor Ramon had the best music back in the day🙌🏾
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah he did.
@MrCalverino4 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi Undertaker was nice too
@Johnnyafc4 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks 👍🏻
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@Sniper_T_2x3 жыл бұрын
Did raw on sega have the super moves like snes?
@ShapeyFiend4 жыл бұрын
Sculptured Software were bloody awful. I rented a couple of these games and was seriously unimpressed considering how rabidly interested I was in WWF at the time. The footage you've captured looks particularly horrendous without some sort of CRT filter with all that dithering. You can see how particularly lazy the devs were @10.26 not bothering to shade the announcer at all.
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Not making excuses because I agree, the game isn't the best looking. However, there are soooo many sprite animations in these games, I can see how their may have been limitation factors impacting their ability t do much more, especially considering a lack of skill for optimization.
@lldjslim4 жыл бұрын
I like wwf royal rumble for the snes and wwf wrestlemania for the genesis because of the ultimate warrior my favorite wrestler of all-time
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
A solid reason to pick a game in the series.
@lldjslim4 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi Yeah sometimes the roster plays a role in it also like the WWF RAW games are good games, but the roster of wrestlers in the game suck
@mr1000Cent3 жыл бұрын
People who complain about WWE 2K20 never played NES WWF Wrestlemania.
@Jenovi3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@RealAlphaDrum4 жыл бұрын
Rage in the Cage was a total wasted opportunity.
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Right!?
@9393zach4 жыл бұрын
Hey that's not jim Ross, that's Vince McMahon!
@9393zach4 жыл бұрын
why would they draw JR without his ten gallon hat? :P
@9393zach4 жыл бұрын
given that Jerry Lawler gets his crown
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
I'm not 100% sure, but Vince wasn't doing commentary at the time. Also Jim wasn't wearing the Hat yet. I'm not sure when that started, but looking over video for this episode, he's on commentary without the hat. Honestly hadn't considered it may be him until that.
@MrCalverino4 жыл бұрын
The few times LJN was good to us
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
So dang true!
@ItsThatRetro4 жыл бұрын
17:55. This is most likely Johnny Polo, as Monsoon and Polo would do some commentary together.
@thequadfather274 жыл бұрын
Why does this guy look like Pasquale from Insomniac?! 😏😏
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
interesting comparison for sure.
@RealAlphaDrum4 жыл бұрын
you're way better than console wars. good grief. I can't stand ConsoleWars stupid shtick and skits that are not funny and their crappy acting.
@Jenovi4 жыл бұрын
Aw, thanks amigo. Dan does a nice Job imo, it's just different than what I do.
@EveryMan-yz1ce3 жыл бұрын
This review was too confusing & complicated to understand.