Yeah, I bet they were wishing that they were in the basement/ground floor when they got the quotes.

@@dylanpeterson6192 how you think they got them up there the first time?

Or a bar napkin

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The odd time that we shop at the big box grocery store and the idiot with the buggy is being a dick head I have been known to follow and slide a case of SPAM into their buggy

Equipment too heavy by 10,000 lbs

Good question. There was a large concrete obstruction that would've prevented the cwt tray from being positioned behind the crane when it was facing the building. Also, we had plenty of safety factor built in to the chiller weight.

I’m guessing they needed the tray for raising the boom.

Being the chiller only weighed 30k the extra counterweight would of be unnecessary. I’m going to assume it was just dot raise the boom

@@lilranks that's correct. The cwt tray was only needed to raise the boom off the ground.

"Designed access" is through a roof. When space is limited, the only option there is is the top. Do you know how much space and the cost it would take to put this on the first level and be able to bull rig it out? Obviously not or you wouldn't make such asinine statements.

I love seeing big cranes in action and how these guys can rig up such a big tall crane in such limited space. But I really do think that the designers/architecture could've used a basement chiller here. This is way too much work and cost to install a chiller. This is not like NYC where you have so limited ground space. This is in Houston where chance is that they couldve used a bit more land and bigger basement for this.

@@lmaolmao8826 not much. Some pencil rollers, come alongs, chain falls and skates is all you need.

@@LowMediax whatever you say little fella.

@@lmaolmao8826 if you don’t know how to rig without a crane just say that my guy.

Sorry for off-topic, but you triggered a memory of a site engineer sending mail to the office about "Erection of some-machine..." and that mail got stuck in the company's spam filter because it contained a banned word....

This project took about a year of planning. Winging it was not an option.

@@consolidatedcranerigging2844 Of course; I don't think anyone could put a lift like this together any more quickly.

likely more

I’d guess way more. Million dollar plus crane job.

Probably done that way so if he fell, the line is letting out after any sharp edges, rather than before TO the man, as a sharp edge can cut the wire in that way. if you look at the hole in the roof, you can see the roof sheeting edges. Though really the guidance on those is that they need 6 metres to properly work. (It's why I've always just given a confused look at site managers who want me to wear one when ballasting a goddamn Demag AC 200. To demonstrate what I meant to one manager who complained, I put it on, and, when on the ballast wagon and had a suitable soft surface, dove off it then showed it hadn't locked throughout. They need a lot of momentum to lock in. a good inertia reel (as theyre called in the UK), in that 'it works to stop you in a fall' you'll be constantly fighting with as such a good reel wont need much to lock in. a 'good' inertia reel in that 'it lets you work without fighting it all the time' needs a lot and maybe shouldnt be used if you're less than six metres off the floor, in which case you should have a fixed line. Though yes. normally, the reel part when used should be at the anchor end, though nominally in such use as no part of the line will be against a sharp edge, aka like when roofers have a crane for the reels, and so the block is up in the *air* (I've had that as a *slinger*. Boring as hell as we just sit in the crane twiddling thumbs.)

If you're referring to the "yoyo" attached to the windowashers anchor point, your argument is invalid.

I have no affiliation with these guys. The mobb and demobb would be no less than $150k in and $150k out. Asembly another $150k, Ground prep ran approximately another $60k ,that would include removal. Hoisting would run $1200 to $2000/ hr with a daily minimum of 8hrs. The rigging, storage and transport of new goods $100k Removal and disposal of old equipment another $100k The job probably ran $1 million by the time it was all over.

Problem is you arnt pumping fluid up that far to the roof.

@@nfb615 Of course they are...why do you think they put it there?!

Cold air sinks, therefore it's easier to create even air flow through out the system by starting on the roof. Especially for high rises.

@@christopherdixon7270 The chiller make cold water, which is then pumped to where ever it is needed. There is no "airflow" except within individual rooms and floors. They can be mounted in basements, this happens all the time.

Seems like it would be easier to stop stupid comments...

I know what you mean. We see it all the time.

There is a German crane company that specializes in long heavy reach project of gas and oil applications.

Several people have asked that question. Our customer explored that option, but this was too much weight for a helicopter.

A smaller setup, Manitowoc 21000, the man charged, one million dollars to bring it in, set it up, and one million dollars to take it out. PLUS rental. Small family owned business in the Ohio area.

Mitchell Giebler much of the money spent is on project liability insurance. These jobs are as risky (for a short time) as sending a rocket into space. All is well during the lift, until it isn't. There is also the public liability. Cranes do collapse for various unforeseen reasons. There are also operator and site management mistakes in judgement. I was there when the 400 ton crane collapsed while they were building Miller stadium in Milwaukee Wisconsin years ago. It had a 400 ton section of the steel roof structure on the hook at about 200 ft above the field and was slowly moving it into position. I was driving by on the freeway and noticed the American flag was blowing straight east. At the same time I was looking at the crane thinking how risky it was for it to be working in a steady 35 mph Wind. At that exact moment the crane slewed west and dropped its load on the outfield area. Even from half a mile away I could hear the thunderous impact of the 400 ton load. Three men died while working on the infield. Many videos of the occurrence were taken. Not a word was ever said to the general public about liability. It was a tax payer project with many cost overrun issues.

They definitely should've done that 30 years ago when the building was built.

We put chillers in the basement in the UK. Big fuckers like these.

@@marccarroll2803 that's typically what they do here also. Not sure why they designed this building that way back in the early 80s when it was built.

No reason to think ahead. It will be the next mans problem.

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@@user-ux9mw6sl6e не думаю что это поможет заработать вышедшему из строя чиллеру. А в таких небоскребах без системы охлаждения жизни нет - окна не открываются.

Да, стоимость замены запредельная. Старую систему можно было попробовать отремонтировать или на месте порезать и в "карманах" вынести. Вертолет, опять, таки да.

We've done a lot of big jobs over the years. This was definitely our biggest project involving a single crane and one of the more challenging as far as logistics were concerned.

Probably just lifting it off the pallet before throwing those other two straps shown around the bottom.

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MrPLC999 I have seen them use helicopters or you can bring them up in freight elevator in smaller pieces and assemble up top. Likely tho building as tall as you mention likely was engineered for a Derek crane to be assembled on the roof as opposed to on the ground.

Only one helicopter could have lifted that much - the m26. Russian made, there is not many in the US. It would still be a very difficult lift. Given that there are many more cranes that could do it, it was probably much cheaper to use a crane. It was for sure easier - that kind of lift is common in Houston. My father and Grandfather were union ironworkers who specialized in rigging and heavy hauling. Lots of oil refineries utilized those kinds of lifts around Texas.

@@scottwheeler2494 how much was that lift 1 million? I would find an AC unit that could be disassembled and chopper it up , 55 semi loads to set up a crane ?

@@scottwheeler2494 what was the weight lifted ?

@@ExploringCabinsandMines he said 30k. Then figure 10k for rigging. So probably 40klb total would be my guess.

They could have, but they would have had to disassemble the old chillers more. I know of only one (in my past 20 years)building that I have been even partially involved in that used an Erickson Skycrane. It was rumored to cost a half million to make the lift. The new chillers could have been ordered disassembled (Form 7). Consolidated looks like you guys did a good job.

I guess the point is that cold air goes down, and if u want to pump it up, it will be compressed = heated. Not sure, but for my opinion it seems logical

Probably pushing $500K.... We joined in a rental of a 375T Hydraulic for a lift in DC, 23 stories 110 ft on the jib. All that for our 2 tons of steel and 3 RTU's... It was $50K for 4 days. 1 day setup 2 on the lift 1 breakdown... 13 truckloads... Our share was $10k.

$1.5m

American "tons" are different than the "tonnes" that are international, it causes confusion and in some cases...very bad results because the they are different weight measurements.

The guy said in the video they weigh over 30K lbs. An S-60 Sikorsky Skycrane max payload is 24000 lbs.

Other high rises in the area...and no fly zones of bases nearby

The largest helicopters can only lift at maximum around 25,000 pounds this was heavier and then you had no margin for error

Maybe $500.000

@@user-uw1wq9rj8g My son in law rents cranes for the nations larges crane company. This past year he had a job in Florida and the crane had to come from Texas. Cost of transport and setup was $780,000. Two week setup time for job lasting 2 days. MONEY MONEY MONEY

Yeah it is! The superlift cwt tray alone is over 500k. We needed that just to raise the 590' of boom off the ground.

He is. Union guy with no experience with this crane.

Wim Meerkerk um I would hope/ think that they put him on some equipment that he was familiar with. If not then that’s completely reckless. Not arguing with you though

It's called an operator's manuel. Something every operator should be familiar with no matter what size crane you're running.

@@consolidatedcranerigging2844 Like to see a video on the load chart calc'

@@hamstrtjHe's one of the most experienced crawler operators in the state of Texas (and he's non union). Not saying anything bad about union operators... just clarifying since you made that comment. In that shot he was using the manual to explain something to the cameraman. No matter what size crane it is the operator should be familiar with the manual. On a crane like this with as many configurations as it has it would be irresponsible not to open the operator's manual even if just to confirm what you already know.

Insurance purposes...been there, done that.

@@Billvagsayer i worked with helicopters in the past, they often had several million worth of telecom gear slung under them or even people. no issues.

@@SupremeRuleroftheWorld The job we were going to use a helicopter to set some large fans, the building owners said no. We would have to clear the building of people. They said we were liable for it all. We opted to use a crane and a gantry to complete the job.

@@SupremeRuleroftheWorld ...also, those chillers weighed in excess of 30,000 lbs.

@@Billvagsayer if the client wants to pay the costs for it then its his problem.

I'm sure there's some military helicopters capable of lifting that much weight, but these chillers were way too heavy for a commercial helicopter.

@@consolidatedcranerigging2844 MIL MI-26 are available for commercial hire, with a 44000 pound capacity. Having said that you did a great job.

Thanks@@andyphillips7437. That's interesting. I've never heard of any helicopter service making lifts that heavy in the US. Some of the contractors that bid on the job explored the helicopter option and didn't have any luck with it.