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Consumer Series: Sub-Zero vs Frigidaire - Unboxing & First Impressions

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@jeffstreeter3254
@jeffstreeter3254 2 жыл бұрын
I’m excited to see more consumer products being analyzed by Monro and Associates. Love the content.
@Urgelt
@Urgelt 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good expansion of subject matter for your channel. Interesting point about the quality of automobiles. It's true - we obsess over panel gaps on a car you'd need a micrometer to detect, yet we tolerate crap quality in even the most expensive consumer refrigerators. On that Sub-Zero fridge, the sidewall is damn near as thin as foil. No resistance to a bump whatsoever. The plastic trays on the Frigidaire *will* break during use. A nasty burr coming off a fastener where hands will go - unconscionable, really. I'll enjoy seeing what else you can discover about these products as you tear them down.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Urgelt! We always appreciate your feedback. cheers.
@fabreezethefaintinggoat5484
@fabreezethefaintinggoat5484 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah expensive appliances ...
@dr-k1667
@dr-k1667 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is the the wake up call for consumers that Consumer Reports use to be relied upon to deliver. It's exciting to see more than just cars here, because what you spend your money on, should be worth what you spent.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 2 жыл бұрын
no one Reads CONSUMER FRAUD anymore. they are BIASED.
@linster249
@linster249 2 жыл бұрын
Consumer Reports has only counted cupholders for a long time
@Lysander-Spooner
@Lysander-Spooner 2 жыл бұрын
@@linster249 And they often get the count wrong.
@nerdfulthings4670
@nerdfulthings4670 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I remember when they did extensive testing. Then an announcement that models change so often there is no time to test and publish. Now you can only hope the frequency of repair, etc is accurate. Seemed to be for my vehicles.
@nerdfulthings4670
@nerdfulthings4670 2 жыл бұрын
@@linster249 I remember in the 70's or 80's them de-rating a car because the the gas filler was hard to use, the seats not easy to adjust and the like. A better rated car had lots of black dots for the engine and transmission, while the former hat all good mechanical rating.
@skenzyme81
@skenzyme81 2 жыл бұрын
I wondered, “Why not use proper wooden crates?” So I looked it up: A proper 48 x 48 x 80" heavy duty wooden crate from Uline starts at $820. Their 84 x 48 x 48" standard crate is $465. The crates alone weigh 297 lbs and 200 lbs, respectively. The weight capacity of either is crazy overkill (they allow STACKING). So that’s why no wooden crates. Maybe such crates could be reused, but now you’ve doubled the truckloads. 🤷‍♂️
@d7588
@d7588 2 жыл бұрын
with lumber prices these days, its higher than usual.
@jbbuzzable
@jbbuzzable 2 жыл бұрын
No matter how well you package a product, poor handling can still damage it. The sturdier the packaging. the more people think that they handle it carelessly.
@ShotGunner5609
@ShotGunner5609 2 жыл бұрын
The weight has hardly anything to do with it. A standard semi can carry 45-53,000 pounds of freight with a 53 foot trailer. They are not gonna double stack these. A trailer full of these is probably 25,000 pounds. Plus truck and trailer. Weight really only matters in air freight. Otherwise the cost of shipping for the company hardly changes. A trailer full is a trailer full.
@pipublisher
@pipublisher 2 жыл бұрын
@@jbbuzzable You could be on to something....Bosch appliances have the worst packaging ever forcing you to treat them with care
@echtogammut
@echtogammut 2 жыл бұрын
Even custom cardboard boxes are a lot more expensive than most consumers realize. Depending on production volume and origination you can have products where the box is more expensive than the product. There have been many times where I ordered something and I was more impressed with the diecutter than the object shipped in it.
@burkiwa
@burkiwa 2 жыл бұрын
I encourage you to continue the type of content. Love the EV stuff, but this is just a interesting and important to the public.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill! More to come.
@necrojoe
@necrojoe 2 жыл бұрын
The $2900 is already 4x as much as we paid for our last fridge, and that felt like a lot. :)
@StoianAtanasov
@StoianAtanasov 2 жыл бұрын
Wow guys, more please. I was never interested in a fridge this much. I want to see what you got!
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stoyan.
@stevehockey4
@stevehockey4 2 жыл бұрын
Love this new direction. Could really see Munro grow to rival Consumer reports as a completely unpaid and unbiased consumer advocate. Keep up the great brainstorming and I cant wait to see these teardowns and analysis.
@jamesl197999
@jamesl197999 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely still would watch these consumer videos. Interested in all the stuff you do.
@virgilwhetsel5289
@virgilwhetsel5289 2 жыл бұрын
Please use a thermal imaging camera when you pull open the freezer drawers. I anticipate that you will see a significant amount of the cold air fall out of the Sub-Zero basket as compared to the Frigidaire. The heat introduced by the warm air that flows in to replace the cold air that fell out will require more cooling to recover. I'd like to know how much. Also, please clarify if these units have separate evaporators for the refrigerator and freezer sections, are they inverter driven compressors, does either actually have completely separate refrigeration circuits, each with it's own compressor? How do they defrost? (any reversing valves?) What refrigerant is used? (I asked this same question about the HP system in the Model Y and had to find out from a different source that the refrigerant in Model Y is 1234yf and not 134A.) Those of us in the market for a new refrigerator are going to be watching very closely. My 1997 Frigidaire has had a new ice maker, a new defrost element and new water dispenser switch cover and is still clicking along but..... I did a lot of service work in my time and at seventy three, It's not as easy as it once was.
@pasad335
@pasad335 2 жыл бұрын
Air has so little heat capacity relative to the food in the freezer that losing that air makes little difference. Keeping your fridge and freezer full of something, even just water or ice, is the best thing for efficiency. I've currently got a Bosch unit with true dual circuits, inverter driven, and it's amazingly quiet and efficient.
@Phoen1x883
@Phoen1x883 2 жыл бұрын
They could maybe put some sheets of paper up to visualize the cold air loss, but as the other guy says, the specific heat of air is hilariously low compared to what you're actually trying to keep cold.
@whattheschmidt
@whattheschmidt 2 жыл бұрын
@@pasad335 yep, and if you have say a 'drink fridge' or 'fridge up north' or something, keep a gallon or two of jugs of water for the thermal mass. Loading up an empty fridge does not work!
@pasad335
@pasad335 2 жыл бұрын
@@whattheschmidt I will add however that if you live in an area with high humidity then the moisture you introduce into the fridge or freezer by opening the door does have a significant impact on the energy consumption. Thermal mass won't help you there either.
@owggarage723
@owggarage723 2 жыл бұрын
What a treat! More like this please! Sounds like Adam can't stay at a job long given how many he's had.🤣
@adamleech4336
@adamleech4336 2 жыл бұрын
💯 The truth sometimes hurts. 😂 let’s see how long Cory and Sandy keep me around!
@owggarage723
@owggarage723 2 жыл бұрын
I was just kidding, you brought many points to light about these products that I hadn't considered🤔. After considering my comment, it could be your employer's didn't value your opinion of their products and you moved to someone that would. I hope you have great success at Munro and Associates!
@adamleech4336
@adamleech4336 2 жыл бұрын
@@owggarage723 your comment is totally fine, so do not worry. It made me laugh pretty hard.
@GoCoyote
@GoCoyote 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamleech4336 I agree with OWG Garage. I have worked with many companies that did not want feedback for improvement and optimizations. Now you get to apply your skills doing what you do best and love.
@dalerichardson7202
@dalerichardson7202 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamleech4336 As a former Bio-Rad product manager from long long ago, it was considered a career detriment if you stayed at a company longer than 2-3 years. Why? Because you receive so many calls from headhunters offering 20-30% raises if you were halfway good, and if you weren't getting those calls, then what's wrong with you?
@UnipornFrumm
@UnipornFrumm 2 жыл бұрын
I like this video. Fridges are important machines,everyone has one.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 2 жыл бұрын
I have Two Fridges , one LG and one Samsung , both are a DECADE old and still kicking , cooling capacity is intact. I will never buy "American" Consumer Appliances again.
@Lysander-Spooner
@Lysander-Spooner 2 жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 Reasons?
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lysander-Spooner - the KOREAN and JAPANESE brands are SUPERIOR to anything by American Consumer OEM's, and I dont have to spend 10k on a Commerical fridge. also, I need two to store the FISH I catch During non Commerical fishing season, I catch COD, Salmon Halibut and Trout.
@noahmospan5660
@noahmospan5660 2 жыл бұрын
Love this stuff, a more related Consumer Reports. I happened to be in the market for a fridge, so thank you.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning-in Noah!
@j4k3br4k3
@j4k3br4k3 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking, a REAL consumer reports that isnt just a walking ad.
@JW-1980
@JW-1980 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I couldn't stop watching, so interesting!
@Gojoe107
@Gojoe107 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe how interesting this is. Sometimes I'm even tempted to think about switching away from my IT engineering career!
@krisvandermeulen253
@krisvandermeulen253 2 жыл бұрын
I thought 'ah a fridge...' but there is always more than meets the eye
@bobo-cc1xw
@bobo-cc1xw 2 жыл бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm. I like the series and it works well with 2 presenters to give differing opinions
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 2 жыл бұрын
thanks bobo!
@michaelg659
@michaelg659 2 жыл бұрын
I almost didn't click on this because "what do I care about refrigerators?" but I'm glad I did. It helps put car build into perspective and it is interesting in its own right.
@xyz12334567898
@xyz12334567898 2 жыл бұрын
Love the series, Adam seems humble and very knowledgeable. Please keep it coming!
@shazam6274
@shazam6274 2 жыл бұрын
Not so much, seems like an arrogant, narcissistic hipster so far.
@russmusselman962
@russmusselman962 2 жыл бұрын
Haha are you Adam?
@gregfredericks5201
@gregfredericks5201 2 жыл бұрын
Wow Cory, thanks for an insight to refrigerators!
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 2 жыл бұрын
Any time!
@nuggetsyl
@nuggetsyl 2 жыл бұрын
I love the direction Monroe and associates went in with this video. I am really looking forward to seeing more breakdowns of products like this.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you! more to come.
@debl9957
@debl9957 2 жыл бұрын
Different kind of vid for Munro - I like it!! Adam is the kind of workmate who'd get on my nerves after a while.
@phugoidmode9683
@phugoidmode9683 2 жыл бұрын
Great content. Keep it coming. Hopefully Adam will stick around.
@JamesUKE92
@JamesUKE92 2 жыл бұрын
From the sounds of it he’s nomadic with his workplaces
@shazam6274
@shazam6274 2 жыл бұрын
Without an attitude change, probably not.
@stevegarrett5645
@stevegarrett5645 2 жыл бұрын
You can’t critique the door alignment until the units have been leveled properly. Even if your floor is flat these two items are still sitting on the package material and this could easily cause the misalignment in the doors and access panels. (Used to work with furniture that was shipped like this).
@pablopicaro7649
@pablopicaro7649 2 жыл бұрын
LOL they shouldn't be so damn flimsy that they go out of square! maybe without being level door wont self close, but the cabinet should be quite rigid even a cheap one.
@lobotomite3248
@lobotomite3248 2 жыл бұрын
I like Adam. Munro is full of talent
@shazam6274
@shazam6274 2 жыл бұрын
Not so much, seems like an arrogant, narcissistic hipster so far.
@ikocheratcr
@ikocheratcr 2 жыл бұрын
I really like that you go into the packaging, not only on the protection, but if it is recyclable or not, waste generation. I hope this series goes super well on YT, so later down the road you can tackle other appliances like washing machine, dryer, oven, etc; all of those items everybody basically needs to buy or maybe nice to have.
@johnclark5148
@johnclark5148 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic consumer series! Please keep it up.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 2 жыл бұрын
More to come!
@JulianFoley
@JulianFoley 2 жыл бұрын
A brilliant concept for a series. This could be a gamechanger in the quality of consumer goods.
@V10PDTDI
@V10PDTDI 2 жыл бұрын
Love any tear down of any product. Panel gaps anyone !
@LaurentVitalis
@LaurentVitalis 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a Sub-Zero, fully intergrated, with custom panels matching everything else in the kitchen. The engineering to adjust the panels on the doors is OUT OF THIS WORLD... Really well done. Truely a great product.
@LaurentVitalis
@LaurentVitalis 2 жыл бұрын
Also, after 7 years, the SubZero is the only thing in my kitchen that still looks brand new (and did not need to be replaced).
@AFCFWA
@AFCFWA 2 жыл бұрын
Munro and Associates taking up the mantle of Consumer Reports.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 2 жыл бұрын
CR is a FRAUD however.
@kurtzxcvb3481
@kurtzxcvb3481 2 жыл бұрын
The funny part is that we got the old crappy fridge from my grandparents when they moved into their new house it was a stainless steel GE it's about 20 years old now and brand new Sub-Zero has had to been worked on four times since then the crappy one that came with the house they bought still working strong
@b4804514
@b4804514 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with the old GE is it uses 4 new fridges worth of power. I was shocked at the amount of power these old units use when i replaced mine The power company took it away and gave me $100 bucks.
@kurtzxcvb3481
@kurtzxcvb3481 2 жыл бұрын
Except your dad to buy for frigidaires at the cost of $2,800 a piece my old refrigerator probably just cost me an extra $30 a year in electricity if that only pay $0.08 per kilowatt-hour
@TWFydGlu
@TWFydGlu 2 жыл бұрын
Surviver bias. Only the good units survived to be old.
@pablopicaro7649
@pablopicaro7649 2 жыл бұрын
Yep I have a 25 year old and 23 year old fridges that work fine with just a few repairs over those decades.
@theadvocate4698
@theadvocate4698 2 жыл бұрын
@@pablopicaro7649 23 years on mine and 75$ for repair (done it myself!)...
@davidhumeston5292
@davidhumeston5292 2 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that you guys don't edit out much stuff.. just roll with it...
@wolfejar
@wolfejar 2 жыл бұрын
8:17 😂🤣😂🤣 I love it. Please keep these videos along with the uncut mishaps in the videos. It makes the videos feel genuine and entertaining to watch.
@MarkXHolland
@MarkXHolland 2 жыл бұрын
Woah, uncharted territory! But I'm loving it!
@misteratoz
@misteratoz 2 жыл бұрын
Make a Monroe user buying recommendations guide!
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 2 жыл бұрын
we are considering it!
@tobybeat
@tobybeat 2 жыл бұрын
Yes please! Could you make it part of your website to drive traffic or something? I would gladly pay a bit to see if the brand that I'm buying from is making a solid product on the inside.
@misteratoz
@misteratoz 2 жыл бұрын
@@MunroLive I would pay for that.
@gth042
@gth042 2 жыл бұрын
@@MunroLive Please include the proper Scotch for watching.
@flossing1o1
@flossing1o1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this. Love the channel and it is awesome that you all are branching out on your channel to show more of what you guys do.
@Rouge_7
@Rouge_7 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for starting this comparison of foreign manufacturer v US manufacturer build quality. Both Corey and Adam are highly respected people dealing with manufacturer build and quality control, showing expert observations of both expensive to the consumer must-have home products. I have recently purchased a microwave and refrigerator and wound up sending both items back to the place of purchase because of poor packaging quality control in that both showed damage to exterior packaging. I look forward to continued videos in this Consumer Series.
@x_ph1l
@x_ph1l 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see consumer teardown series for a change! Thanks!
@cybertruckingcampering4787
@cybertruckingcampering4787 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the expanded content. One observation, I feel objectivity would be an essential trait when evaluating products at Monroe, Adam seems to have developed some biases related to “Far East products”
@mark48430
@mark48430 2 жыл бұрын
Adam sounds like every smart engineer I've managed over the years. Great to have on the team, but the flip side is that they often lack the verbal filters necessary to get along in corporate America (or make KZfaq videos). I'd give him some time. Making your first video like this is stressful. I've done it. If he's really smart he'll watch his performance and figure it out.
@xxwookey
@xxwookey 2 жыл бұрын
@@mark48430 Remembering not to mention your biases obviously in public is not quite the same as not having them :-)
@ihurtyourbrain3685
@ihurtyourbrain3685 2 жыл бұрын
Everybody is biased and it's a lot more valuable to a listener or viewer if the bias is not hidden or manipulated in the first place. You can simply factor that bias into your own perspective.
@Cor97
@Cor97 2 жыл бұрын
In this first episode I've got the feeling that the testers are somewhat biased against 'far east' and 'plastic'. I am looking forward to the actual testing and how the products really compare. How much better has the sub-zero to be to justify a 3 times higher price. Is there a business case to be made for either of these products?
@StevenBanks123
@StevenBanks123 2 жыл бұрын
Adam especially seems to come with some pre-judgement. Hope he’ll be objective.
@carmispicer9440
@carmispicer9440 2 жыл бұрын
I hope Adam can find ways to state a hypothesis and then look at data. He seems like a hammer trying to make everything a nail at first impression. Sandy at least has a character and demeanor that you know he just wants the best. Hopefully we see that with Adam too. Otherwise he may be the kind of person that would make a good day crap just through attitude.
@axiomic
@axiomic 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, us Munro regulars are brutal in our 'honesty-meter' personality assessments.. but it's true. We are cautious around corporate career types..
@aaronbounds1336
@aaronbounds1336 2 жыл бұрын
This is sooooo much better than consumer reports and other review outlets. Keep it up! All kinds of products, please.
@sandfly27
@sandfly27 2 жыл бұрын
The other 50% is where it is at! Excited to see you dig into dishwashers, washing machines, fans and hvac
@livefromhollywood194
@livefromhollywood194 2 жыл бұрын
Just my 2 cents, Adam is a GREAT host, he gives off similar energy to Sandy.
@rodrigobejarano1349
@rodrigobejarano1349 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the energy he gives off, unfortunately he has a very noticeable bias against products manufactured abroad. Impartiality is required in this job. Additionally, the difference in the price of the products to be compared must be taken into account; by treating such different priced items as similar, is like such as complaining about the finish of a Hyundai Elantra compared to the finish of a Lexus ES250
@justinmallaiz4549
@justinmallaiz4549 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with above poster. Adam is unfortunately biased, when impartiality is required. This is the best part of Monroe : an honest inside look (at products that speak for themselves) before we jump to opinions please.
@kschleic9053
@kschleic9053 2 жыл бұрын
@@justinmallaiz4549 I didn't get any impression of bias... His point about co-location of engineers with manufacturing is valid, as was his point regarding the quality of the packaging.
@H-Yeti
@H-Yeti 2 жыл бұрын
@@kschleic9053 what stands out to me is when he says “that’s just Far East stamping capability for ya”. To summarize an entire region’s manufacturing capability with a sample out of a single factory in Thailand is definitely biased...
@justinmallaiz4549
@justinmallaiz4549 2 жыл бұрын
@@kschleic9053 It was obvious 0:17 seconds in before he even said a word
@butchbailey8565
@butchbailey8565 2 жыл бұрын
Great expose.
@jamesmoline4411
@jamesmoline4411 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 39 year old Subzero that continues to work flawlessly. I find them to be worth the money. And their customer service is extraordinary.
@Czechbound
@Czechbound 2 жыл бұрын
CONSUMER SERIES : This was really FANTASTIC, and will have a much broader audience I think. Looking forward to seeing how these things rate. I think we'll all PICK UP TIPS on what to look for WHEN BUYING THINGS FOR OUR HOMES.
@StevenBanks123
@StevenBanks123 2 жыл бұрын
Sub Zero typically rates very low in reliability at Consumer Reports. Looking forward to Munro’s take.
@EntirelyHonest
@EntirelyHonest 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like OCD is a requirement to work at Munro and Associates, and I don't hate it :P
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 2 жыл бұрын
Great point!
@Eric-xp1kl
@Eric-xp1kl 2 жыл бұрын
Cory, I’m still watching the video…this will be a great comparison. A few years ago we built hopefully our final house (#10 house) and put in Subzero & Wolf. When buying a Subzero the rep came and installed, aligned and cleaned. A much different experience vs our past multitude of Samsung’s, Whirlpool, etc. Now I’m hoping it last 40 years like one my Aunts has.
@petrapatia6395
@petrapatia6395 2 жыл бұрын
I was so sure I wouldn't stick around but by golly, y'all made refrigerators fascinating. Hats off.
@MrGonzonator
@MrGonzonator 2 жыл бұрын
This left me cold.
@toronado455
@toronado455 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@j.m.5995
@j.m.5995 2 жыл бұрын
Hey those slight damages are a god send for us cheap folks who don't mind it if they knock a few dollars off
@eugeniustheodidactus8890
@eugeniustheodidactus8890 2 жыл бұрын
*Very cool!* Love Adam's funky Christmas socks;)
@gth042
@gth042 2 жыл бұрын
"Fearless Leader", niiice! At some point in this delightful series, I hope some efficiency issues are noted with the so-called French door design. For example, a long-IR look whilst opening that ridiculous freezer could give a visual impression of the convection losses. Another fun one is the total door-seal area and the barbaric methods to defrost. ...Thank you for sharing what you do. Oh, please don't forget power factor and actual/billed "KWh" when you do get to that part.
@jm100368
@jm100368 2 жыл бұрын
I'll tell you one thing, my 30 year old Kenmore fridge in the garage is gonna outlast both of those pieces of junk.
@shaunbava1801
@shaunbava1801 2 жыл бұрын
And use so much energy in the process you could have bought a new fridge! Yes between efficiency mandates and planned obsolescence the Frigidaire is designed to last 7-10 years and the subzero is designed to last 30 years. Subzeros are intended to be kept indefinitely, we had one for nearly 30 years and besides a set of compressors it was good, I've seen lots of late 80s units still in service. 30 years is a long time for an appliance, you will not find a consumer grade appliance that has the same quality as your 30 year old fridge.
@michaelholliday100
@michaelholliday100 2 жыл бұрын
In 1996 I purchased Whirlpool's brand new first on the market Energy Star Refrigerator and at the time paid about $1,600 for it. Today is is running wonderfully. It may not match the rest of my Stainless Steel KitchenAid Appliances, but it has lasted and I will use it until the day it dies. My Forced Air Heat/Air Conditioner is 34 years old and the air coming out of my ducts with the air conditioning right now is 56 degrees and I will keep it until the day that it dies. Oh, by the way I am the only one to touch it in 34 years and I have installed four Capacitors and two fan motors during that time period for less than $200 in parts. My Gas Hot Water Tank is 31 years on and the only repair it has had is when I replace the pressure relief valve...
@charlesball6519
@charlesball6519 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelholliday100 I replaced my 31 year old gas water heater because it was rusting at the water connections, the inside of the pipes were nearly clogged with rust, and when I ran water while it has heating, it would pop alot (It was old when I moved into this house in 2008). The new one is a Rheem gas water heater (went with that, over AO Smith, because I recognize the Rheem brand and never heard of AO Smith when Lowes started carrying it a few years ago).
@drepark2294
@drepark2294 2 жыл бұрын
Probably not. Subzero last forever. Additionally, they have a much better resale and depending on if you own a high end home, they are selling points.
@ShumaBot
@ShumaBot 2 жыл бұрын
I've been hoping for this kind of coverage for a while. Cars get wall to wall coverage since they're so cool, but getting the same story for appliances is a rarity.
@bakerpete2527
@bakerpete2527 2 жыл бұрын
I'm real glad you are examining consumer products. The same rigor in construction should be applied to them as vehicles.
@ronniet7251
@ronniet7251 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this! Thank you for the diversification and continued efforts in bringing so much value to everyone 👏
@00sean00
@00sean00 2 жыл бұрын
More content like this please! ❤️
@JW77
@JW77 2 жыл бұрын
This is interesting. I've always wondered what the 20k fridges are about. I searched the internet forums and see many people say something like "my parents subzero lasted 45 years" but then if you read further down there will be some others say "yeah me too after replacing the compressor it's going strong after 30 years". And I was like WTF the compressor doesn't last? My grandma's old GE fridge could have lasted 40 years too if we had the compressor replaced. I personally don't care if the shelves are made of metal. If they are good plastic then I prefer them over metal baskets. We've all seen good sturdy plastic parts on cars. I also don't care If the front claddings are perfectly aligned. For me It's the performance that counts.
@jnc1771
@jnc1771 2 жыл бұрын
If you are paying 10000 for a fridge you'd care about alignment. If a 500 cheap fridge made of mostly plastic and glass shelving can be aligned so can a 10000 one.
@markmaher665
@markmaher665 2 жыл бұрын
Really look forward to this. One issue I have with Consumer Reports appliance reviews is their general focus on FEATURES, (many of which I don’t care about) vs core functionality and especially durability. I think a buyers guide that focused on these elements would be very popular. Could even have that as a subscription service.
@Ryanstuff
@Ryanstuff 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't say subscribe! Sandy will never let him hear the end of it 😄
@OrganicStuff1
@OrganicStuff1 2 жыл бұрын
Holy new content ! I had a Electrolux vacuum back in the day it was great
@gregcollins3404
@gregcollins3404 2 жыл бұрын
So good to have content from some real engineers...
@stipriausias
@stipriausias 2 жыл бұрын
never thought I am gonna look at a detailed fridge tear down on youtube and it's gonna be interesting for me XD
@josephaharon
@josephaharon 2 жыл бұрын
This is what I've been waiting for from you guys! I remember Sandy teasing this back during the model Y teardown
@yrj77
@yrj77 2 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely fantastic. There is so much free education from your videos. Businesses would do well to watch these videos.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Joel!
@peterricker4177
@peterricker4177 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to viewing more on this series.
@MrZrryan2
@MrZrryan2 2 жыл бұрын
Love the expanded content !! THANKS !!!
@none3763
@none3763 2 жыл бұрын
Cory looks like he knows his way around a fridge.
@sandfly27
@sandfly27 2 жыл бұрын
This is excellent! Hvac needs to be next. It would be great to see you show the important benefits of heat pumps instead of fossil fuel heaters. What is the best compressor design? Is trane really worth the price? What about Goodman?
@MarcAndreSurette
@MarcAndreSurette 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea on the consumer series! Love the idea and wow, how bad is that Sub-Zero for close to 4 times the price!
@draco_2727
@draco_2727 2 жыл бұрын
Never have I wanted to see a fridge teared down this bad 😂😂😂 Bring this new content Munro team 🙌 All jokes aside, this is another great insight into what we (consumers) should be on the look out for. And what will give us the best bang for your buck.
@s1nb4d59
@s1nb4d59 2 жыл бұрын
fantastic guys,nice to see you tear down a different product for a fresh view on what you guys do.
@jimmurphy5355
@jimmurphy5355 2 жыл бұрын
The Styrofoam from the top was not dinged on the front. You had the top backwards when you found the ding on the Styrofoam. I lean with damage at the factory before the Styrofoam was put in place.
@sp00l
@sp00l 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! Keep it up - This is just next-level unboxings! New meta.
@ecdubytecdubyt
@ecdubytecdubyt 2 жыл бұрын
Great series! Looks like a more intense and invasive version of Consumer Reports. Looking forward to more!
@xordoom8467
@xordoom8467 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, well done! So pleased you do other consumer products instead of just cars....
@sonyajones
@sonyajones 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely looking forward to more shows like this! Thank you.
@ArrakisIndustries
@ArrakisIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see some focus on Appliances, as a third generation Appliance Tech, I'm increasingly jaded with the units I come across, irregardless of the brand and price point. It'd be great if y'all could try and obtain some critical parts for each, so as to highlight the difference in customer service experiences as it relates to availability of parts/documentation. It's a key pain point for customers when they eventually need a technician, which in my experience averages out at 3-5 years for just about everything.
@FuzTheCat
@FuzTheCat 2 жыл бұрын
... regardless ... do you unpeel your bananas?
@CausticLemons7
@CausticLemons7 2 жыл бұрын
Also I really want to thank you for branching out! I love cars but seeing your engineering knowledge across other industries is so insightful.
@tilago
@tilago 2 жыл бұрын
Love the content. Real consumer reports.
@morkovija
@morkovija 2 жыл бұрын
i thought they were being super nitpicky with the shipping damage on the first one, but that GASH on the second one hurt me =0
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, it was bad, and the top access panel does not open.
@jamesengland7461
@jamesengland7461 2 жыл бұрын
$600 at Lowe's for me. The last one I bought was the same price and lasted me 22 years and we left it when we sold the house. Good enough for me!
@-A-c
@-A-c 2 жыл бұрын
What a great idea. Showing consumer reports how it's done.
@WaLlyBird65
@WaLlyBird65 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for adding consumer products reviews! You always provide great content!!!
@glenmattson3765
@glenmattson3765 2 жыл бұрын
I look forward to the comparison analysis and evaluation of these two refrigerators. It would be helpful to compare the service responses for the damages and any other things not meeting customer specifications. ??? I personally do not like how the bottomless drawers dump ALL of their freezing air on the floor every time you open the freezer. There is wasted energy each time you access the freezer. The Frigidaire at least has plastic tubs that help hold the sinking cold air from dropping out.
@ElDJReturn
@ElDJReturn 2 жыл бұрын
I agree @Glen Mattson. My first thought on the Sub Zero freezer drawer was how it must be a pain in the ass to clean if something spills in the freezer since there is nothing to contain a spill.
@dalerichardson7202
@dalerichardson7202 2 жыл бұрын
Great point about the immediate loss of cold air from the freezer! Munro should put in temperature monitors in the boxes and do a time series of temperature drops in the fridge and freezer compartments after opening the doors for 1 minute. That's a good proxy for energy efficiency.
@GoCoyote
@GoCoyote 2 жыл бұрын
The embodied energy held by the air in the freezer area is actually quite small. It takes about 0.03 watt hours (30 milliwatt hours) of power to cool 5 cubic feet of air from 75ºF down to 0ºF. And if your freezer is full, it will contain much less air than it's rated volume. This will vary slightly by your home humidity levels, but not by much. I thought the same thing, but now that I own one, it is vastly more efficient than my old fridge.
@JW77
@JW77 2 жыл бұрын
17:11 when I shifted my interest from motorcycles to cars, I was flabbergasted by the fit and finish of cars. Motorcycle parts are like art pieces compared to cars. The weld lines of frames, parting lines of cast parts, surface finish, etc are all far better on motorcycles than cars. I guess it's because motorcycle parts are more exposed instead of hidden behind some panels.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 2 жыл бұрын
MOTORCYCLES are a DEAD Industry , Electric ones are SUPERIOR and dont burn Fossil Fuels.
@eshuang7222
@eshuang7222 2 жыл бұрын
Love it. Very interesting since we all have fridges and will buy more than a few in our lifetimes.
@moreboost
@moreboost 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys for keeping the channel going and interesting!! :)
@ToddGotsch
@ToddGotsch 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to these new videos. Based on how unreliable modern appliances have become I am sure it will be entertaining and sad. I am sure some executives are getting a bit nervous.
@kelvynbettridge
@kelvynbettridge 2 жыл бұрын
Love the new series. Q. Should fit and finish only be assessed after leveling on solid ground?
@JN-gc3jp
@JN-gc3jp 2 жыл бұрын
Hi guys - great to see you sharing more of Munro’s expertise - as a retired Lean Six Sigma Master Black Belt the channel is music to my ears - re: plastic fridge parts, slightly dismissive comments seem a bit at odds with Munro’s consistent quest to replace metal with plastic or carbon fibre on EVs
@pinkelephants1421
@pinkelephants1421 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this breakdown. Nice to see the beginning of a wider range of topics.
@lilliansteuben9793
@lilliansteuben9793 2 жыл бұрын
Considering our fridge is missing two shelves and the ice machine clogs…. Cory we might need to use this data for an upgrade. Also benchmark buggies bc have 475 in the garage.
@pablopicaro7649
@pablopicaro7649 2 жыл бұрын
It is a BOX that gets cold inside. Any more than about US$900 your just stroking your own ego spending more money. (for residential category).
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 2 жыл бұрын
Great point Pablo. We are going to dig into the guts of the Sub-Zero to truly see if they put the Money into the design. thanks for watching!
@DKWhipple
@DKWhipple 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta agree... some functionality is worth a few bucks, possibly serviceability, and efficiency. Don't most homeowners move every 5-7yrs??
@kimthompson289
@kimthompson289 2 жыл бұрын
Love the idea of branching out to show viewers other items Munro does!
@Frisco1x
@Frisco1x 2 жыл бұрын
This is great! Professional look into more products for the consumers. I hope you show even more of the products you all break down..
@danlucy1956
@danlucy1956 2 жыл бұрын
I have thoroughly enjoyed watching this channel for some time but as an appliance store owner for over 40 years this took it to another level. You could use some training on box removal.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 2 жыл бұрын
agreed.
@lawrencefb5972
@lawrencefb5972 2 жыл бұрын
As a Patreon I did enjoy your new content. Keep up your good work :).
@paulwujek5208
@paulwujek5208 2 жыл бұрын
About the freezer shelves - grid vs plastic tub: having had had both the plastic tubs are preferable because the grids release all the chilled air out the bottom of the fridge while the tubs retain the cold air around the contents. The tubs mean the fridge has to do less work to return to temp after opening, and the contents are subjected to less warm air.
@axiomic
@axiomic 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts too. Plus all the ice fragments, etc. are contained in the bucket and do not fall out on the kitchen floor.. I think buckets are such a brilliant idea for fridge and freezer.
@ugursenturk5860
@ugursenturk5860 2 жыл бұрын
İ yearn for videos like this. İ have a fascination with fridges amd vacuum cleaners. Thank you for this
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