2023 Toyota Sequoia | Talking Cars with Consumer Reports

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Find our full test results for the Toyota Sequoia here:
Is the all-new 2023 Toyota Sequoia just a Tundra with a cap on the back? We share our first impressions of Toyota's largest SUV, how it compares to competitors like the Chevrolet Tahoe and Cadillac Escalade (or even the 4Runner!), and if it can carry the torch for the dearly departed Land Cruiser. We also discuss whether using a different octane gas, for example 87 vs. 88 octane, can harm your car's engine.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00: 2023 Toyota Sequoia first impressions
15:59: Can using a higher octane gas than is recommended in your owner’s manual harm your engine?
LINKS:
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Chevrolet Tahoe - www.consumerreports.org/cars/...
Toyota 4Runner - www.consumerreports.org/cars/...
Cadillac Escalade - www.consumerreports.org/cars/...
Gas octane - www.consumerreports.org/fuel-...
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@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын

For those who want to smooth out the ride on their solid rear axle Sequoia, buy a model with more sensible 18" rims not the patently absurd 22s found on the Capstone.😁

@hereigoagain5050 Жыл бұрын

I agree. I don't understand the fetish for low profile tires.

@LionRunner Жыл бұрын

Amen..!! I even change 20in wheels came on my 4Runner Limited to regular 4Runner 17in wheels. More than the comfort I would say so much more practical putting weight on the back on hardware store runs (more rubber to take the weight) and protection from potholes & curb rash.

@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын

@@LionRunner Now yer talkin' 👍

@rangerover06sc Жыл бұрын

If you have vehicle with a well sorted suspension big rims are not a problem. My 08 lincoln mkx rides better on 20s then my 06 accord did on 16s. Having a solid rear axle causes lots of rise imperfections

@jberry1979 Жыл бұрын

Better and cheaper tire choices too when you down size the rims.

@ragweedmakesmesneeze Жыл бұрын

On a recent trip, we had a choice of rental vehicles, and a number of folks in my group instantly went to the Sequoia. It was big and rugged and the guys really wanted it as our weekend rental. But with 6 of us, we struggled to put our duffle bags in the back with all the seats ups. It was absurd really how big this thing is on the outside and how little cargo room there was on the inside. We ended up in a minivan and it was great for 3 row comfort and plenty of cargo capacity.

@xxk4rilsxx Жыл бұрын

Amazing machine. Our old Sequoia was sold at 801k miles with the original engine / transmission/ air conditioning all working like the first day we bought it . I’m sure these won’t last as long but I’m sure you’ll still have the peace of mind if you like to road trip with the family a lot comfortably.

@LionRunner Жыл бұрын

"801k miles with the original engine / transmission...." this is when I wish KZfaq have capability to post pics of your Sequoia. That is very cool..!!🔥🔥

@samsonchan1488 Жыл бұрын

Yeah

@user-tb7rn1il3q Жыл бұрын

No reason the new one will not. It might need new turbos and hybrid battery along the way. Toyota turbos never seem to go out and the hybrid batteries seem to last forever if the fan filter is kept clean.

@judih.8754 Жыл бұрын

I always enjoy Ryan's emotion in answering questions and Alex's technical coolness. Good job guys! BTW my old 2004 Mini Cooper got much better fuel economy (+6mpg) when using the recommended 93 octane then when using 87 octane.

@tigerfan8244 Жыл бұрын

$75k seems very reasonable for a loaded Capstone considering a loaded Tahoe/Yukon will cost $80k to $90k and you won’t have to worry about the Tahoe/Yukon’s dismissal reliability and cheap interior. As for the Escalade comparison… I’ve driven a 2021 Escalade Platinum Sport and thought it road terrible. The seats (especially the second row) were uncomfortable, gas mileage was horrible, and the thing was in the shop more then we were driving it.

@fireside_chats9575 Жыл бұрын

There is zero chance that a Sequoia with a solid axle rides better than an Escalade Sport Platinum that’s going to have IRS and air suspension.

@YanDaddyy Жыл бұрын

@@fireside_chats9575 you're correct but if you're buying a sequoia over those other options, you're not buying it for ride quality.

@Dangic23 Жыл бұрын

I paid $60k for a 2017 Limited back in Nov 2016. $15k for a much upscale trim, and 6 years after, seems super reasonable.

@christopherjones512 Жыл бұрын

Caddy trucks are garbage

@Carlostheaggie Жыл бұрын

Alex is the only one with a microphone good enough for a podcast. His audio isn’t muffled and he didn’t shout several times causing me to repeatedly adjust the volume. Despite that I still love every episode and have been an avid reader/listener for almost 30 yrs.

@dougkippen4971 Жыл бұрын

Agreed. The sound isn't helped when they talk over one another to make a point. Had to stop halfway through because I couldn't listen(watch) because of this.

@jstephens2758 Жыл бұрын

They need to be closer to the mike. The problem you are describing as muffled sound is audio reflection and some of that may be because the other two are relatively close to the glass behind them. Moving away and getting closer to the mike may help, although being too close to the mike may cause other issues.

@Mark-de4hj Жыл бұрын

I can hear them all very clearly.

@Nixonskitchen Жыл бұрын

This should sell well but they could have really crushed Chevy and ford if the 3rd row/trunk space were better

@DeadAir21 Жыл бұрын

Highly unlikely. No matter what they did the could never catch GM and Ford in terms of sales.

@Nixonskitchen Жыл бұрын

@@DeadAir21 maybe not overnight but Toyota is the number 1 automaker in the world. That wasn’t the case years ago. I’m sure people in the 70s thought no one could beat Cadillac or Lincoln. Point is if Toyota started to make their SUV more competitive they could eventually have the best selling large SUV.

@tikimaka1 Жыл бұрын

@@DeadAir21 …and GM and Ford could never catch up in terms of Toyota‘s reliability. I would rather buy a preowned Toyota than brand new GM or Ford vehicle. GM is absolute junk. Ford is slightly better. Forget about Dodge Chrysler!

@tdkleffman Жыл бұрын

I've been using E30 (94 octane) in my non-flex fuel vehicles now for probably 5 years. Not a single issue, and in my turbo charged vehicles I've noticed a performance bump, and no noticeable drop in mpgs.

@jonathanratliff4780 Жыл бұрын

The Capstone is like $15K less than Land Cruiser and similarly less than top trim Yukon....so what is the complaint about the price? The Capstone has LS Lexus level Semi Annilne leather which the LC never had and is superior to GM rivals. I think it is just patterned expectations here that surprises on the price, it is a good value

@mikeamizzle Жыл бұрын

Bring back the land cruiser!

@350zlover2 Жыл бұрын

Lol! Bring back the Lexus LS with a V8!

@KingKong- Жыл бұрын

There is no space behind 3rd row ......not even to keep a cabin baggage😝😝😝😝😝😝😝

@Sub11Sprinter Жыл бұрын

I log my fuel consumption using Fuelly, and did an experiment this summer using my 2020 RAV4 Hybrid. Using two tankfuls as washout before the “measurement” tankfuls I noted a small decrease in mpg between regular 87 and E15 (from 43 mpg to 39 mpg). It’s hard to tell whether that’s actually a difference, as conditions vary, but if that holds I’d consider using E15 if it were 10-*15* percent less expensive than regular, or better.

@Dangic23 Жыл бұрын

My 2021 RAV4 XSE hybrid requires Premium only. I have never put anything less than that. Full tank lasts a month.

@LionRunner Жыл бұрын

I'm very exited 2023 Toyota Sequoia for many things like having hybrid option but not having electric motors in the back, solid axles with lockers (with TRD Offroad package) along with many offroad tech with that package and you can get that package even with the 2nd trim "Limited". (Base SR5 trim only have TRD SPort package that does not have those offroad Tech.) May be important info for CR when they are buying Sequoia for testing to understand the difference between TRD Sport package vs TRD Offroad Package. I also love the JBL Audio with Toyota Price tag. Hope CR will test the Bi-LED headlights as well. Especially the highbeam that I'm not happy with. But (a big but) the way the watercooled TwinTurbo with electronic wastegate is designed is concerning to me from service stand point to reliability stand point. Again CR should pay lot of attention when buying Sequoia as driving impressions will change alot depending on the shocks they get 2.5 Fox on TRD Pro or Bilstiens with TRD OR pachage and base gets I think Tokico shocks. This small change would impact ground clearance, angles, mpg, etc.. So much more details I came across since I was interested but that Turbo make me think "naah".

@doctorres112 Жыл бұрын

Are we certain the locker is part of the TRD OR package? I couldn't confirm this on the Toyota website. I'd love to know for sure as we are leaning towards the Pro model currently.

@LionRunner Жыл бұрын

@@doctorres112 if you buy TRD Pro trim you will have all the offroad tech available in TRD OR package. If you select a lower trim like Limited you need to select the powertrain as 4x4, then in packages you will have the TRD OR package. Click "view all details" from that screen to show what you get with that package.

@oladeleayoola Жыл бұрын

My Kia Soul has 312k miles and it it’s been fed exclusively E15 for the last 8000 miles. Over those miles I’ve saved well over $100 compared to regular and I’ve seen zero reduction in power or fuel economy. Those savings went a far way for me in these times and I’m yet to meet someone who’s car crapped out on them after filling with it. Recommend it every time to anyone whose car is new enough

@kwjr.9569 Жыл бұрын

👍🏾👍🏾for the closing joke. The rest of the content was pretty good also.

@MomentosdelCesar Жыл бұрын

Joke was hilarious great job guys!

@M1911jln Жыл бұрын

In this segment, the Sequoia really should have an independent rear suspension. An IRS would give more room in the third row and the whole point of such a big SUV is room in the third row.

@user-kv2vk5ly9c Жыл бұрын

So the car when will be in stock?

@TheEnVious17 Жыл бұрын

That EV joke got me 😂😂😂

@losdesmayosdeNestor Жыл бұрын

Ryan is back on....😋😍

@IceTeaMan022 Жыл бұрын

no long wheel base variant is a deal breaker

@jameswitte5676 Жыл бұрын

When I was in North Carolina I bought pure (100%) gasoline. Normally I can only get the 10% ethanol. For that 1 tankful I got almost 10% better MPG. I realize 1 tankful isn’t enough to get accurate results to compare gasoline with and without ethanol. My question are: Would it be better to use pure gasoline and get better MPG or continue using the ethanol mix? And wouldn’t it be better to switch the ethanol corn fields to an edible crop?

@kamalpreetsinghgill1396 Жыл бұрын

Ethanol or Gas? Its a complicated question. They are using ethanol for many reasons. 1) Mixing 10% Ethanol in Gas means 10% less gas needs to be pumped out and bought. 2) It means profits for farmers because there is actually corn surplus in USA. 3) They also think they can make the switch from gas to 100% or atleast fuel which have ethanol as majority component in the blend.

@DD-dj4jr 2 ай бұрын

Yes. Politics and corn farmers.

@anoopmathew82 Жыл бұрын

Anyone that has put ppl in the 3rd row and luggage behind them in any of the new GM trio of large suvs or a wagoner will immediately be disappointed in this new sequoia. All this extra exterior dimensions goes to no added interior volume, such a head scratcher when you have packaging benchmarks like the GM products or even mid sizers like the Telluride.

@mesa620 Жыл бұрын

They totally dropped the ball with the third row and rear storage.

@alexanderkajdi8117 Жыл бұрын

It looks like a gigantic RAV4 or GMC Terrain.

@TomMaragos Жыл бұрын

I've watched no less than 20 reviews about the new Sequoia's and only one guy mentioned the fact that not only did they switch from the V8 to the 3.5 Hybrid Engine, but more importantly they took out the center diff making these not true 4x4 for the trd pro models. I would like to know if this is true. No One talks about this. Isn't that kind of a game-changer? I'm a novice about such things but I do plan to go off-road so it seems important to know how this works.

@brianscudder2170 Жыл бұрын

Yes, the center differential is always locked. That does not impact ability to off-road, but does impact ability to deal with mixed driving conditions - dry, wet, slippery, dry, slippery, dry, as the system relies on slippage to avoid excessive wear. Other 4WD systems allow the center differential to be locked or open, and when ‘open’ can manage changing conditions without excessive wear. Without front, rear and center locking differentials, no vehicle is truly 4x4. Few are.

@dennisjones8906 Жыл бұрын

Please get Ryan a better quality mic.

@butkusrules08 Жыл бұрын

The exterior is fine, the engine is fine, the interior sucks though. The third row does nothing for me, I have a dog and I don't know how I can get my dog in and out. Add to that the price increase its a no go.

@marekw.9816 Жыл бұрын

Short sighted of Toyota to drop the Land Cruiser from our market. The halo effect of the Land Cruiser reputation has value beyond just sales numbers.

@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын

I would go a step farther and say it was a highly disrespectful gesture towards Toyota's most profitable market. Just like their decision to deny us the GR Yaris, Toyota really seems to take their best customers for granted when they deny the US and Canada their best products.

@DJL78 Жыл бұрын

Dakota Young.

@apache-yaquibrown4060 Жыл бұрын

The Sequoia looks tall and tippy in the video.

@TheAwareHuman Жыл бұрын

3rd seat is unusable with knees up to chest.

@Laguna2013 Жыл бұрын

but not made in Japan?

@tinhinnh Жыл бұрын

noone is forcing you to buy the capstone

@hereigoagain5050 Жыл бұрын

What a scam! I didn't know ethanol ruined engines. Did nobody test it before bringing it to market? We shouldn't rely on "20/20 hindsight."

@davidm5707 Жыл бұрын

They were talking about E85, or 85% ethanol. It was only for cars designed to used it labeled "Flexfuel".

@americandude3825 Жыл бұрын

Won’t last as long or be as reliable as my 2008 5.7 sequoia. Inside is only as big as the current 4Runner too which is a joke.

@Buc_Stops_Here Жыл бұрын

I am sure in the going Electric California this new vehicle from Toyota will sell really well - not. It seems late to the party as this is going out of style rapidly. The new Toyota Sequoia will get 13 in the city, 17 on the highway. Ouch.

@JuanRivera-lj5lu Жыл бұрын

They blew it, what were they thinking, 😏

@rufaimuhammadaminu6873 Жыл бұрын

Toyota Sequoia is fine,but I still prefer Mercedes Benz Glc

@cayman9873 Жыл бұрын

I am a sequoia owner, gen 1. And the missing power rear window, and lack of flat floor and hybrid twin turbo are areas I will not buy the new one. I will buy a newer gen 2 , then will go to a tahoe instead of the gen 3 sequoia. Sad, i love my sequoia. I buy these to put 300 k miles and the twin turbo and v6 are too complex to go the distance. Boo toyota.

@artistnyc123 Жыл бұрын

Give it 10 years and then tell me which one you would drive across the country and feel more comfortable in, the Sequoia or the Escalade?

@LP-sp4sf Жыл бұрын

The Escalade for sure but you would get the added bonus of meeting at least one mechanic in every state you visit.

@cayman9873 Жыл бұрын

Hate losing the v8 and rear moving window. Dont want the twin turbo and complex hybrid either. Toyota killed the sequoia. The tahoe and expedition floors are way way superior with the seats folded. The wierd parcel shelf is a joke. Those will fail fast. Boo toyota you made a current sequoia owner HATE this one

@paulm6481 Жыл бұрын

Three row large SUV and they guys talk nonsense for 22 minutes and no mention of rear luggage space and third row roominess or lack there of, and horrible system to flatten third row. Unbelievable. They had one for three weeks? Unbelievable.

@cayman9873 Жыл бұрын

You make great points

@jstephens2758 Жыл бұрын

I am curious. What percentage of CR readers are likely to buy such an expensive, specialized vehicle? Wouldn't it be more productive to buy models that subscribers are more likely to buy? You can buy more inexpensive vehicles to test if you forego the most expensive ones that few are likely to buy. CR used to recommend buying the least expensive product that meets a person's needs.