bootsoul Yep, I agree!

bootsoul Aaaaahahahahahahahaha!!!

It’s been 7/10 of a decade since this video was uploaded and I’m still waiting for midi to get simpler 😂

this wtf lol

Hi Greg. I too have the Beatbuddy, Aeros Looper, MM, and OnSong. Would you be willing to share how you set those up? Do you go MM -->Bluetooth --> OnSong --> OnSong Connection to Beatbuddy --> Beatbuddy --> Aeros?

SNS Pro Audio Visual Which part do you need help with? There's a lot in this video. It's really Step #1 is to connect iOS device to midi equipment. Step #2: Configure BeatBuddy to send/receive MIDI. Step #3 send MIDI through OnSong. While this goes through nearly every MIDI option you may use, it's probably not as complicated as a standard practice. So much of the complication is probably MIDI related.

No, as the video explains, you need to make a MIDI Bank Select/Program Change to the Beat Buddy. Depending on how your beats are arranged in the BB determines the MIDI you send. For instance, if you want to choose the first beat in the first folder, you'd send Bank Select MSB 0, LSB 0 and Program Change 0.

We do not provide phone support, however I think much of your confusion is with MIDI and the BeatBuddy. I would recommend reaching out to other BeatBuddy users on their forums.

Thanks to the great support of the On Song Folks, I am up and running now.....The thing that was hanging me up was knowing which numbers to enter in the midi area to be able to assign a song on the BB to a specific Chart in On Song! Got it working now though!!

I actually meant to say that it was the great support I got from Beat Buddy that solved all my problems. Jay from Beat Buddy answered all my questions! I have everything working now! Thanks Jay!

Want don’t you do a simple video , God knows OnSong want !

@@charlesdelauro8708 I just followed the instructions in the above video. I couldn't do it better.

At least your clean from within now :-)

I know its a bit of setup, but that's one of the advantages if you use OnSong. You can program your songs in OnSong to send out the proper program that lines up with the BeatBuddy. So you can pick songs using quick pick or sets, and the BeatBuddy would automatically switch to the right beat and tempo without needing to bend down to control it. We are talking with BeatBuddy on ways to possibly make this work a bit smoother in the future but it would probably mean bypassing MIDI.

It sounds like you're mostly there. You can definitely integrate the BeatBuddy into OnSong and just map MIDI to the section if you want it to trigger when you select that section with the wireless foot pedal. There are lot of options.

Steve Griffiths hi, do you have video on how to set up with forscore? Tks

cc rr I don't have video but I should be able to put a few pics together

Tks steve. Im using an older ipad..a 2 think. If possible, i would like to see the settings on forscore and the beat buddy. Many tks

Bud M. i agree. i use onsong, and won this pedal in a competition. pretty sure im not freaking doing this.

Andrew Deppisch It's really just a matter of plugging the MIDI sync cable in. This video covers Bluetooth MIDI which means instead of plugging in MIDI to an iPad, you have to connect it through that pair process. MIDI can be more advanced of course.

Yes, because drummers aren't at all difficult--to find and to play with.

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Hello! We would absolutely love to give you some assistance. If you’re experiencing any issues with OnSong or have any questions in this regard, the best way to ensure they are addressed is by contacting our support team. You can do this through opening your OnSong 2024 app on your device > Utilities (gear icon) > Support > Contact Us. If you’ve already done these steps, please let us know your ticket reference number that you should have received when sending in your support request, and we will forward it to our support team to make sure you receive a response ASAP. Thank you, and we look forward to hearing from you and giving you a hand!

It really depends on your setup so it may be hard for us to visualize. For instance, you could connect the OUT of a Bluetooth MIDI dongle to the BB to feed it commands from OnSong and then connect the OUT of the BB to the IN of the VL3 to have BB control the VL3. Then, depending on how you have those two devices configured, you could pass it through (MIDI THRU) to the OUT of the VL3 back to the Bluetooth dongle to go back into OnSong. I think the real question then is if the BB and the VL3 support MIDI THRU. All that means is that the output of the BB would then be passed along by the VL3 to the OUT. Older MIDI devices had a MIDI THRU port for that, but many modern devices just let you handle this in the software setup and use the OUT port. Now if that doesn't work (not all MIDI devices support MIDI THRU and we can't really offer assistance on all that hardware), then you could also invest in a MIDI "hub". With a setup like this, you could connect your MIDI hardware and then route it as you want inside the hub's setup software. We think iConnectivity makes some great hardware to handle that: www.iconnectivity.com/products/midi/iConnectMIDI4plus So I guess there are options. OnSong just becomes a "node" on the MIDI network that can send and receive MIDI. How you connect that to your setup is a bit outside of the scope of what we can support, but yes it is possible.

onsongapp Thank you for your very swift reply. Yes i agree and get the ideas you suggest. I think a midi hub is definitely the way to go and just route them as needed. Thanks, great service btw.

No problem! Be sure to rate and review us on the App Store, it really helps us out! onsongapp.com/rate/

onsongapp - will do. I recently swapped over to you guys on the recommendation of our keyboard player, it was a great decision. I had been using a fellow competitor app, but OnSong is so feature laden that other apps of the same ilk, pale in comparison. Thanks.

Mario Marcal Da Cunha Check with singular sound for details on using custom sounds and beats.

Wolfgang Gröschel Bassist im Raum Freiburg Bluetooth MIDI is designed to disconnect each time power is lost and does require you to pair again. This is according to Apple “by-design” and we have requested that Apple and MIDI consider changing this approach in the future.

@@onsongapp Thanks for explanation. So hopefully Apple and MIDI will read this and change this behavior soon.

@@WolfgangGroeschel Another possible solution is for the adapter manufacturers to simply keep the Bluetooth connection powered up. Then the pairing would never disconnect. But that would require a battery to keep the connection active and powering off the iPad would likely disconnect as well.

The BeatBuddy is a great product and you don't need to integrate it with OnSong. But if you do, it uses MIDI and there's not really a way to simplify MIDI at this time. The video covers a lot of ways you can do things, but the BeatBuddy is very easy to use by itself.

Yes. The iPad 2 cannot support Bluetooth MIDI (since it lacks Bluetooth antennas for BLE) but it does support wired MIDI devices. However we recommend upgrading to newer hardware for support from Apple and OnSong.

Yes! You can use Bluetooth foot pedals and Bluetooth MIDI at the same time for some really great solutions.

Hello Joachim. I have Gr55 and I'm considering buying Beat buddy. Can I connect with You and have some discussion? Best regards Ruslan

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Unsure, but I know you can switch a Helix preset from OpenSongApp, and loading the Helix preset can change Voicelive 3 and Beatbuddy presets. Voicelive 3 itself doesn't seem to have that good of integration with MIDI. You might need a better MIDI "brain" like I'm using the Helix for.

You would need to contact SingularSound about that one.

Hey there, if you pair the BeatBuddy with the Footswitch+, you can get a long TRS cable and put the BB on a mic stand tray while having the Footswitch+ on the floor. Make sure to head to the BeatBuddy settings and change the function of one of the footswitches to act as the main pedal. Check out how to do that here: kzfaq.infoLCyidHQ9mYw

Randall J Clay onsongapp.com/store/beatbuddy

Just wondering if you can also add the infinity looper to this setup or does the ipad take up the only midi port?

It really depends on your set up. If you're using MIDI Bluetooth dongles, you can add more than one and connect that way. If you want to connect a lot of MIDI devices together, I'd suggest something more like a MIDI "hub" that lets you connect multiple devices together: www.iconnectivity.com/products/midi/iConnectMIDI2plus

Jacquelene Palmer - Ambrose I would reach out to the OnSong Community of Facebook. Lots of folks have theirs switching beats and tempo. OnSong is a MIDI controller and BeatBuddy understands MIDI but it does require understanding MIDI a little.

This video covers a lot of ground and most of the complexity is in the particulars of MIDI itself. The good news is that some great stuff is coming in MIDI which would allow things to be much easier. For instance (if supported by BeatBuddy in a firmware update) will be able to choose BeatBuddy > Beats and choose the beat. It would shield you from all the nuts and bolts of MIDI. We are excited about this new technology that was just released at CES and NAMM 2018 that will make things easier. We are hoping to implement this as soon as it's available.

What is confusing you so we can help? MIDI can be challenging to get up and running so there are some limitations to how easy we can make things. Let us know if you want anything in particular clarified and we will certainly help.