And the same KZfaq is busy demonetizing historical videos.

@@ElBandito Most KZfaq creators I like, the company is another matter

Factual

May you live in interesting times

aren't we in "exciting period" or "interesting times" of humanity?

@@golonawailus4312 In the grand scheme of things we live in abnormally boring times

@@longyu9336 things will get interesting friend just hold your horse

@@tolui1874 Times got interesting again

Yeah, the first time I learnt about it, it was kind of depressing. You finally get an ending to the Three Kingdoms period and China is united again under Jin, only to hear that everything goes to shit just decades later and China turns into a mess for several more centuries. You can't even tell a good story because it's too messy, there is no clear narrative and no heroic journey for pretty much anyone.

Still, if you don't eat all your Sixteen Kingdoms broccoli, you can't have any Tang dessert.

It's a very underrated period that suffers from lack of records (many ministers and generals of the barbarian states dont have proper biographies). That and also the absurd amount of important people surnamed Wang and Liu

Chinese history has so many parallels with European history. In European history, it's very unfair to apply modern ethnic identities to ancient or early medieval populations. Ethnicities have always and will always evolve after all. Ethnicities are complicated social constructs shaped by various factors. The same logic applies to China.

@@loganmiller6879 I think that there already have a primitive ethnic identity. It's the same as how people called themselves "Romans" in the Eastern Roman Empire, During the period of the Northern and Southern Dynasties, southern China and northern China claimed that they were both "orthodox" Han people.

@@ingdjr5573 It's more as every ruling party ever to rule China proper (not a conquering force but a stable empire) has always claimed to be the successor of "Han" at the end of the day. Han is more of a standard than an ethnicity to me, as I guarantee if you do a DNA analysis of Han, especially in the North it'd be far more varied than one would think due to Turkic, Mongolic, Tungusic / Jurchen, and Tibetan inbreeding. Hell, even Korean and Japanese could be found (mainly due to Japan's brutal occupation of China but that's beside the point). Even Kublai Khan and the Mongols who ruled during the Yuan Dynasty likely would have partially or fully sinicized had it not been for the famine and the plague that hit them and allowed for the instability that was the birth of the Ming Dynasty. Yuan themselves had to acknowledge Song, Jin, and Liao respectively as recognizing all 3 (2 being technical foreign powers who all occupied China and considered themselves the rightful "Chinese" dynasty) would help with ruling over China proper. I think the idea of Han is so successful because all non-Chinese rulers who wished to stay and rule over the Chinese had to acknowledge that if they wished to indeed be a ruler in China proper or over China proper they'd have to "be" Chinese via the mandate of heaven and acknowledging their predecessors legitimacy. Hence why the Khitans, Tanguts, and Jurchens all started sinicizing themselves in order to rule over their Han populace prior to Ghengis's expansion. I personally think had Kublai or his predecessors adopted this train of thought the Ming dynasty may not have come to fruition or would take far longer in time to come to fruition as sinicizing makes it far easier to rule over and control China proper.

Han fell 300 years before Rome, Tang became an empire 200 years before Francia, learn history before commenting.

@@genovayork2468 Totally not understanding what I meant.

It is very, very different. The north/south divide is largely parochial and based on English indifference and arrogance towards self-created notions of culture. China's north/south divide is more stark and was based more on pure territorial ambitions and the notions of statehood. England never had a war of purely north vs south, it'a virtually the same people imagining differences just to fight and plunder.

@@SantomPh I mean sure dude. Unless you consider the Vikings and the Saxons who made the North/South divide in England in the first place!!!! Untill King Alfred and his men somehow coerced one of the Viking leader to convert to Christianity, they were always at war!! But I get it Britain is an Island that consumes the cultures it comes into contact with!!!

We need a game TOTAL WAR: "Sixteen Kingdoms of the Five Barbarians" !!!

The funny thing is the Tang dynasty rulers may have had Turkic blood in them. Although classifying the Xianbei as Turkic or Mongolic is dubious at best due to modern ethnic standards being unfair to group people of the past the Xianbei tribes they associated the greatest with seemed to lean towards more of what we'd consider modern Turkic peoples. A lot of China and Chinese generals and officials have all had "foreign" blood. Considering China has had Sogdian, Korean, Jurchen, Tangut, Turkic, and Mongolic people all within its history intermarrying and warring / ruling respective states and dynasties it's no surprise that several ruling families of "Han" likely had foreign blood introduced at some point in time. Albiet most likely through the maternal line rather than the paternal line hence why they are still Han.

@@salvatorenostrade3331 Because chinese adhere to paternal line so they always prefer call themself by the line of their father's blood, that is Han ethnic

Either you never tried or you have abnormally low comprehension.

Not at all lmao.

Austroasiatics had arrived in Indochina more than a millennium prior, learn history.

@@genovayork2468 But how do you explain the fact that there are still Austroasiatic speakers in South and Southwest China even to this day? Not all of them have left, some of them stayed in South China.

@@genovayork2468 Really you sinocentrists are the ones that should learn history, not me.

@@weifan9533 Of course some had stayed. Learn logic.

@@genovayork2468 yep you sinocentrist has to learn logic, go look into the mirror and learn ur logic dude

Sa

Same

Do the Mongols see Xianbei, Murong & Khitan as a “traitor”?

I’m Chinese and Tang is my favourite too. It was the most culturally open and accepting period when art, music, religion, technologies and ideologies all flourished

@@JT-dd9fi ooooh...., yes. Ok.

​@@JT-dd9fi No, that's Song.

@@genovayork2468 Song had the best architectures among all Chinese dynasties in my opinion.

I have just started the new series, bro. Everyone gets featured eventually.

Exactly

aye sima yi, cao cao gave specific order to his son to kill sima yi, if not, one day the kingdom will fall into his hand. his prediction was correct.

@@jamesgabriel7132 Cao Cao killed a lot of arguably awful people but also a lot of Innocents.

HE ISNT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THAT JIN DYNASTY LMAO

Bruh too soon. Jin appears later in Later Tang and Song Dynasty along with Liao Dynasty and XiXia.

@@stump4522 he didn’t realise that they were talking about the Jin and the end of the 3 kingdoms. He is probably Chinese so he might not have fully understood.

jinchao（晋朝）and jinchao（金朝）

He is talking about the first Jin Dynasty not the Jurchen Jin

Takes a Herculean collaboration and some idea of focusing multiple protagonists into making this. And end up either idolizing or defame people like the Simas, barbarians like Liu Yuan & Shi Le, warlords like Wang Jin and the Eastern Jin regent Wang Dun, or a dozen lot of important historical and fictional characters to portray the long period of endless wars.

There is. Its called Mulan. Although very short one.

​@@shinsenshogun900 Yao Xiang as a Sun Ce-like figure (he was compared to Bofu historically), Murong Ke as a benevolent genius figure like Zhuge Liang who defeats the tyrannical Lü Bu Dong Zhuo hybrid Ran Min, Huan Wen as a Zhongda like figure who lords over the Sima imbeciles masquerading as a court, make the Battle of the Fei River akin to Red Cliffs. There's a lot to work.

Which is your favourite

@@intellectualfudanshi2744 Ming dynasty

@@hwasiaqhan8923 I hate ming dynasty the most, but i like the Tang dynasty.

My fav dynasty were the Republic era（兩蔣時期）and of course Ming Dynasty.

@@ReviveHF Yes I love the republic era as well

The Xia family fled to the Hun because of a revolution led by the Shang family, and the Xia family married a Hun, so the Hun had greater legitimacy in ruling China.

goguryeo is not even korea

Bedouins forget their culture. This is very strange

Because there were a few kingdoms and dynasties with the same name. This is done by historians to distinguish them.

In their lifetime they claimed to be a succesor/revival of the older dynasty or were a precedent of a later, more prominent dynasty of the same name. They used the same name in their era but later had "former" or "later" attached to their name by scholars. One key exemption is "Shu Han" one of the Three Kingdoms that came out of the Han Dynasty's demise. It is literally "New Han" but ended up being a kingdom of its own separate from Han. Hence historians don't call it "Later Han" despite Liu Bei openly claiming to be the continuation of Han. The Han kingdom that appears during the 16 Kingdoms era is called the Hann (two Ns) and the Later Han of the 5 Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period is named as such.

A civil war that lasted more than 600 years

Your family is very, very old. You ruled China for more than 600 years, but there was a rebellion from the governor of the Zhao region. He was supported by many nobles and provincial governors, and he was able to win, but he did not rule. Rather, he said, “I am just a representative of the Emperor.”

5 ethnic people and 16 kindoms

Definitely.

It resembled the collapse of the Western Roman Empire, but the Jane family resisted

I believe so

No, they were partially xianbeinised Han

After the fall of Northern Wei, Yuwen tai established the eastern Wei and started a series of Xianbeinisation policies one of which made Xianbei nobles switch back to their Xianbei names and forced Han elites and soldiers to adopt Xianbei customs and surnames, unlike the other Xianbei nobles who just had to switch back to their Xianbei surnames, Li clan of Tang Dynasty and Yang clan of Sui dynasty were many of those Han noble families that were gifted a Xianbei surname by Yuwen Tai because they didn’t had one previously. That’s why after the Yang clan took power and established the Sui dynasty, Yang Jian and other Han nobles (Including the Li clan) switched back to their Han surname but those nobles of Xianbei origins remained with their Xianbei surnames (he also executed all of the members of the Yuwen Xianbei clan).

No, they were descendants of Li Xin from Qin Dynasty

Tuoba are mongolic people

No

​@@HungHoang-uf7obThe Grand Myrrh, the Mystic of the Han Dynasty and the Six Kingdoms, wants to talk to you

Not really he did those in other videos