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CHAPTERS ►
00:00 Intro
00:57 King Kong (2005)
07:34 The Amazing Spider-Man 2
10:24 The Batman
13:26 Air Force One
16:14 Express VPN
18:02 Outro
@JPFeenstra 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to see an episode where each Crew member showcases their absolute favorite VFX shot and explains why it's their favorite.
@AuthenticAfricanAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Yes please!
@creepyville 2 жыл бұрын
I third that!!
@palaxa 2 жыл бұрын
+1! Great idea.
@victorpinheiro8395 2 жыл бұрын
YESSSSS
@jah211084 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a great idea!
@PranavVeluri2001navtheman20 2 жыл бұрын
Joe has this uncanny ability to make even the most complex of VFX processes understandable to laymen with zero background in the field. Please keep bringing him back!
@TheTorbjoern 2 жыл бұрын
The mark of a true specialist
@DaDonBitterVonWan 2 жыл бұрын
📠
@jhandle900 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! It's great when they have guests on and that's why I love this channel. I wish I could've gone into this field but it's too late for me so I'm just here to enjoy.
@phoenixsipa1124 2 жыл бұрын
Well said 👍
@delta3eight 2 жыл бұрын
Australia producing the goods
@wy4553 2 жыл бұрын
Corridor definitely took in our feedback and started having guests react to bad CGI too. They were amazing at explaining and critiquing something in a respectful and informative way.
@KaladinVegapunk 2 ай бұрын
I just miss them ripping on the bad stuff they've had to get too diplomatic to not alienate potential guests. They missed the worst part about the Rhino scene in Spiderman 2..it was a trailer scene, ending right as Spidey swings, implying go see the movie to find out!..and yet it's the final scene, ending the same point the trailer did. That's suuuper greasy and manipulative haha, even if the rest of the movie is still a dumpster fire, it had like Zack Snyder DC levels of bad writing villains and plot
@VoxFelis Жыл бұрын
I love that he reiterates that it's never the artist's fault. It's the time they are given.
@bigfudge3223 9 ай бұрын
i wouldn’t say never
@ahabduennschitz7670 6 ай бұрын
Yeah yeah, its always someone elses fault when someone is just bad in what he does.
@lonelylama5222 5 ай бұрын
But it's true, it's usually not the artist's fault.
@trigonometrisk 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Joe looks quickly at the King Kong shot and is all like ”Yep, that was months upon months of hard work”. Even if we make fun of the jankiness of some aspects of it, that’s a considerable amount of effort and skill that went into it.
@heehee6514 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@Dargonhuman 2 жыл бұрын
That was one of those shots that, when I was watching it, I really wanted to be impressed by and appreciate as a whole, but the jank parts were just too noticeable for me to get to that point. I had to mentally break it down and appreciate the parts that were good - the animal and environmental renders - and try to ignore the bad - the live action comped parts.
@llkeithh 2 жыл бұрын
I worked on that stampede sequence as an animator on Kong, and it was the least effective sequence in the film for all the reasons that they pointed out. First, it went on way too long, but also, as they said, plates were shot in daylight, and shadows of dinosaurs had to be cheated over them, which never looks right. Pretty much everything else, though, was nearly flawless, especially Kong himself, and the New York City stuff.
@stefanandrews5098 2 жыл бұрын
As they commented though - beyond the comp issues with shadows, the actual work on the creatures and environments, basically everything that wasn’t that specific problem, was excellent. It holds up very very well in all those other regards
@Dargonhuman 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly. if the worst thing about a shot is some of the plates didn't match quite right, then you still did an incredible job with the shot. I can't imagine the stress of working under that kind of time constraint and with those limitations had to have been like, so even though the sequence as a whole isn't perfect, you clearly did your best within the restrictions you had to work with.
@storyscholar 2 жыл бұрын
Also let's remember this was 2005. At the time, my mind would have just been blown I think.
@Illusionaire1 2 жыл бұрын
@@stefanandrews5098 Peter Jackson had a very, very, veeery detailed series of vlogs (well, the early 2000s kind) where he showed all aspects of the making of the film, it's pretty interesting how they used everything in this scene. Like the leaves and debris are real and filmed on a green screen, branches and twigs as well.
@nateavery2875 2 жыл бұрын
The Kong footage was awsome.
@JDairShine 2 жыл бұрын
What about a "VFX in video games" series? Video games have essentially been CGI since the beginning of time, would be cool to get your guys' perspectives on it.
@MrThacca 2 жыл бұрын
0:45 i feel like this part really shows how genuine these guys really are. Artists in the VFX industry really love and respect each other and always in awe towards the works of each other
@fullmetalval6380 2 жыл бұрын
1:05 Wren saying "it's been a few years" threw me for a loop. I didn't realize it's been 3 years since this whole series started.
@crimson414 2 жыл бұрын
Wait the series started 3 years ago? I thought it started quite a long ago
@fullmetalval6380 2 жыл бұрын
@@crimson414 Yup, 3 years. The first one (the Sonic episode) says 2019
@manavudgirkar3345 2 жыл бұрын
I started watching corridor ever since they started this series
@scarletspidernz 2 жыл бұрын
@@fullmetalval6380 Thanks Ugly Sonic for starting something great and I'm also Happy Ugly Sonic ended up with a great gig with the FBI (see Chip and Dale movie)
@yappygm7433 2 жыл бұрын
"Nobody starts out with the goal of making bad visual effects." We need more Joe on this channel!
@scarletspidernz 2 жыл бұрын
idk there's some you tube channels that probably live for, love and do bad vfx for comedy reasons
@brennanmoran1739 2 жыл бұрын
@@scarletspidernz if it made you laugh, and that was the point of the vfx, then they were good vfx lol
@Kradith 2 жыл бұрын
i just finished binge watching stranger things, and the whole time i was thinking about how they might've done the cgi in it. it would be very interesting to see your opinions on it and how you think they made them or find out how they actually did make them!
@thesprawl2361 2 жыл бұрын
I thought cg looked really good even when it wasn’t necessarily that convincing. It had a richness and tonal consistency and it just looked - the whole show looked - incredibly expensive. It felt like luxury tv.
@noelbailey4710 2 жыл бұрын
I love how this channel teach us to appreciate cgi in movies no Matter how bad we think it is learning that people put effort and skill into it
@teozhiwei 2 жыл бұрын
The practical and visual effect of 'Everything, Everywhere, All at once' is really good. It also has lots of fantastic action scenes!!
@godzelda123 2 жыл бұрын
That movie deserves it's own video
@djsejwal2 2 жыл бұрын
Brother check that rrr movie. Blew my mind like this one.
@alexman378 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, the VFX team for that film learned VFX from KZfaq videos specifically for that movie
@MichaelHickman3D 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexman378 that’s what makes it so cool, independent studio who have beautiful story telling with simple tricks. Goes to show how good story telling can make everything feel so powerful.
@momosworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it truly deserves a whole video dedicated to it! I'd love if they could get the creators on the couch
@jesterlampoon-t1j 2 жыл бұрын
Y'all should do "Sound Designers React!" Like: How they make sounds for things that don't even exist; How they made the T-Rex or Godzilla roar; Even the subtle ways they have to add basic clothing, movement, and walking sounds into animated films. You know those punch and beefy gun sounds in old action movies? WHAT IS THAT? I'll keep posting this comment until SDR is a thing!
@wobwobrob 2 жыл бұрын
I came here to suggest the same thing! You have my like 👍
@stefanandrews5098 2 жыл бұрын
Sound designers or Foley artists would be awesome to hear from! I’d also love to hear a composer?
@Pauldesky98 2 жыл бұрын
Joe is absolutely one of the best guests you've ever had on here! Keep up the good work and keep him coming back :) I work in motion control and his opinions and experience are really interesting to me!
@garrettvelkjar3136 2 жыл бұрын
I think a star trek VFX react episode would be really cool. You could look at shots across time and how the technology has changed what is possible and where it has faltered a bit. For a more specific shot there was one in The Next Generation season 4, episode 5, at about 4 minutes 30 seconds in that really stumped me when I saw it. I would love to see how you guys react to it!
@CB-vg8pv Жыл бұрын
Same. I'd especially love to see what they think about the battles in DS9 between the Federation and the Klingons and the Dominion War ship-to-ship combat effects.
@ZarroTM Жыл бұрын
Shut up
@ZarroTM Жыл бұрын
@@CB-vg8pv shut up
@WeavZ805 2 жыл бұрын
Need more of The Batman! The vfx felt seamless compared to other recent blockbusters. Would love to see them talk about the car chase or the final fight
@cringekiller348 2 жыл бұрын
Some definitely didn't. What looked good was mostly practical effects.
@Stig69 2 жыл бұрын
I think they did the car chase already, but It could have been the part from the trailer
@Scripture-Man 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stig69 They did an episode where they replaced the car chase with the original Batmobile.
@goji253 2 жыл бұрын
@CRINGE KILLER Most of the city is entirely fake yet it looked gorgeous
@WeavZ805 2 жыл бұрын
@@cringekiller348 Obviously not every vfx shot was going to look good but I don't believe any looked outrightly bad like other films that have been released recently. Done dragged me out of the experience and many worked with the practical effects of perfectly. Very similar to his Apes trilogy
@Nick-jq5nl 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at Air Force One made me think: If you, Corridor, were tasked with making the plane crash scene, in say a few weeks, with modern tools and process, as if it were going into a blockbuster movie, how good could you make it? Is it actually impossible, or could it be made to look real, without big-budget resources? How good is modern "pure CG"?
@xopurified8981 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this! 💯
@dochocson 2 жыл бұрын
They could do a comparison of a 'quick and dirty' vs high level redo of the shot. That would be fun to watch.
@thork6974 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like a practical model shot dry-for-wet is still the way to go, but with a physical interactive element. Mount the model nose up, maybe rig it to pull apart, and dump popcorn salt across it for scale water spray.
@HerbieMarais 2 жыл бұрын
Yes pls
@JamethielKnorth 2 жыл бұрын
One day airplane crash, go!
@rhyswilloughby6364 2 жыл бұрын
Love to see an episode on hand drawn overlays as effects. ie; the emperors lightning blast on Luke, highlanders energy burst and why are they so satisfying compared to digital versions 🤔
@StoneMotions 2 жыл бұрын
Just started watching the new halo series, the first fight scene has a great combination of good and bad VFX to unpack. Having played Halo with Wren in high school, it would be fun to see him talking about it. Or even comparing the previous Peter Jackson one that had the trailer but never got off the ground
@colinschroyer4333 2 жыл бұрын
You guys definitely need to check out Everything Everywhere All At Once, whether for visual effects artists or stunt coordinators to react to, the film stands out in both areas! A fantastic film that I would love to see a deep-dive into!
@MaxIronsThird 2 жыл бұрын
So much SFX in that movie, very little VFX.
@tonypang83 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, an episode with an industry insider, and they actually do break down some "bad" CGi... but in an insightful way.
@maodijong3661 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@tonypang83 2 жыл бұрын
@KZfaq Commenter Not insult 😅, but I like what they did in this episode. The industry insider was willing to make valid comments about "bad" CGI, but also explained why it could have turned out that way. In past episodes with special guests, they didn't often talk about the negatives side of things.
@SnowPea67 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see you guys react to the absolutely stunning effects of the new dinosaur documentary “Prehistoric Planet.” It has some of the most realistic dinosaurs I’ve ever seen, it straight up looks like they just filmed real dinosaurs.
@QuickChair 2 жыл бұрын
where can i watch it
@SnowPea67 2 жыл бұрын
@@QuickChair it’s on appletv+
@Saporling Жыл бұрын
This please yes!
@dannyb2048 Жыл бұрын
see the new Jurassic World... so bad
@Deinobi Жыл бұрын
^^
@kamilnurkowski 2 жыл бұрын
The ending shot revealing that advertising segment for real is a psycho horror was perfect!
@ians8184 2 жыл бұрын
I still don't think I've ever seen a VFX breakdown of one of the earliest CGI to blow my mind: the cartoony reactions of Jim Carrey's character to Cameron Diaz's nightclub act in The Mask (1994)
@xg835 2 жыл бұрын
yess need to do
@breisen99 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that bad VFX shots are being shown again. They are fantastic for helping general audiences understand why they went wrong. They think laziness, but don't realize it's almost always just lack of time
@dustinakadustin 2 жыл бұрын
they'll show them when they're not talking about the MCU, cause whenever they talk MCU films they have a guest on and can't show them in a bad light. No Way Home had stacks of just awful VFX but they only talked about the good ones and the ones that could've been slightly better. Yes TASM 2 was in here but it's not MCU and they weren't super harsh.
@langitkensahaja125 2 жыл бұрын
@@dustinakadustin usually they talk don't talk shit when what they're discussing comes from their work. It would be disrespectful. As hard as vfx as they said, even with all the bad ones, you have no idea how much worse it was before they worked on it. They always work their hardest on these shots and never try to make it bad. To blame it all on them directly or indirectly is just rude and disrespectful.
@langitkensahaja125 2 жыл бұрын
And most if not always, they already know the flaws of their own shots so there's no need to be discussing it in their face.
@dustinakadustin 2 жыл бұрын
@@langitkensahaja125 no I agree with you, don't shit on it, but it sucks that they covered a film with shots as embarrassing as No Way Homes and didn't talk about them at all. On a show called "VFX Artists react to bad and great CGI" they shouldn't be just ignore bad VFX for the sake not upsetting disney.
@langitkensahaja125 2 жыл бұрын
@@dustinakadustin they've had a lot of moments where they criticize the MCU too though. You can't blame them for choosing the right moments when to do that out of respect.
@anthonypeck8448 2 жыл бұрын
It's nice for someone to explain a little why bad visual effects can sometimes be bad, this rarely gets talked about and properly explained. There's always so many factors involved.
@misinformedmarti 2 жыл бұрын
I would love an explanation of how you would approach older movies today. As for examples, the one that comes to mind is Robot Jox. The kid inside me that will never age loves that movie, but it is a hard watch after being spoiled with current standards.
@casperzweerus1364 2 жыл бұрын
Love hearing Joe Farrell talk about the craft. His explanations are so detailed and interesting!
@edwardfletcher7790 2 жыл бұрын
It's great to hear an Aussie accent on the show 👍
@hippiesmiles8934 2 жыл бұрын
I'm always hoping that they would react to a bunch of Dr. Who stuff. Therese is a lot of cool VFX to look at, and a whole lot of hilariously bad VFX too. The practical effects from the original series have always felt creative though there was fewer nonpractical VFX. The new series from 2005 flipped the use of VFX, relying heavily on Computer-generated stuff and fewer practical. You could definitely tell there was a lot of heart put into it and paved the way for VFX on BBC shows.
@Scripture-Man 2 жыл бұрын
Doctor Who would be fantastic! :-)
@chezzicus5740 2 жыл бұрын
I have ALWAYS wanted this!
@zoox3732 2 жыл бұрын
Surely one of these days they'll do it... right?
@jordanaftermath 2 жыл бұрын
Just came here to comment this 🤯 definitely needs to be done!
@doctorwhomst6459 2 жыл бұрын
I came here to say that! Everyone who sees this comment and wants one on doccy who, comment that! They'll be sure to react to it if there are multiple comments.
@Scripture-Man 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT episode! Really good conversation, Joe Farrell brings a lot to the table. I like the format of 3 sitting on the couch, but wouldn't mind the occasional episode with all 4 regulars + a guest like Joe. Oh and the YT episodes are too short, they go SO quick!
@ameyambekar2221 2 жыл бұрын
have you seen the vfx of Bramhastra trailer
@bluefletcherfish 2 жыл бұрын
These are so well done. I always watch them on the website, I'm glad to see they're still getting love on KZfaq.
@I3endoubles 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see an episode looking at Prehistoric Planet and Walking with Dinosaurs. It'd be cool to compare both the changes in CG capability as well as how the reconstructions themselves have changed.
@leoburningfast9103 2 жыл бұрын
Prehistoric planet must be reacted too!! Probably some of the best CGI I have ever seen. Make this a top comment so they react to this masterpiece of show
@pianomation6256 2 жыл бұрын
You mean prehistoric planet?
@leoburningfast9103 2 жыл бұрын
@@pianomation6256 yes always confuses me
@leoburningfast9103 2 жыл бұрын
@@pianomation6256 I changed it
@pianomation6256 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@nostalgicdouchebag1912 2 жыл бұрын
Was gonna say that!
@AllenWatts 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like a good comparison between the King Kong scene and Prehistoric Planet. I'm sure you guys are getting suggestions about that show a lot. I've found it stunning and am constantly amazed at the realism they have achieved.
@asktoseducemiss434 Жыл бұрын
Joe was a fantastic guest, the man just oozes experience and wisdom
@hazonku 2 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that Joe is becoming a regular! He's one of the brightest minds in the business & we're truly blessed to have him on the couch this often!
@Pastrybfs 2 жыл бұрын
This dude is such a great guest. I'd love to hear more about the drawbacks of the volume. Watching the Obi Wan show made me think about how shooting in the volume can make things feel small and fake in a certain way.
@hazonku 2 жыл бұрын
I'm STILL trying to figure out what happened with that because I've seen the Mando reels and know folks that worked on that show & I kid you not they have old school stop motion blown up to massive scale on the volume in Mando looking great, foreground, midground, and close background practical set pieces that are digitally extended into the volume seamlessly, meanwhile then parts of Kenobi look like a stage play with somebody's $200 portable projector way out of focus in the background. If they just stuck with that it would have been fine, it'd look like A New Hope with its reused hallways and obvious matte paintings, but because of the other grandiose stuff and the handful of seamless shots on par with Mando those janky ones just stand out WAY more in Kenobi & I still can't quite figure out what went wrong. My best guess so far is that maybe in pre-production VFX made huge changes and set design just didn't get the time to keep up so they delivered the best they could, then in post VFX didn't get the time they needed to marry the elements with roto and compositing.
@Pastrybfs 2 жыл бұрын
@@hazonku Good guesses. Yeah the only other things I can think of are that the cinematographer had no experience on the volume maybe (I haven't looked, I'm just speculating), or that Chow got overwhelmed. Sidenote, I rewatched the Mando episode where he fights the mudhorn, and that episode looks more beatiful than a 200 million dollar blockbuster. Kenobi (and Book of Boba for that matter) seem to really be mishandling the volume, or getting too ambitious or something.
@Almandeen 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I’d love to hear more on the Volume drawbacks too! Mando looked stunning but with Kenobi it often looked like the characters weren’t really “in” the environment.
@KillahMate 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pastrybfs These are all good possibilities, but my first guess (it's always my first guess) is what @hazonku said - they made either some big changes, or too many small changes, and they simply ran out of time. This isn't just because that's always my first guess with VFX, just like Joe Farrell suggested, but because recently we've been seeing some VFX artist testimonials online about the terrible conditions Marvel movie VFX are often made under, and deadlines in particular. I wouldn't be surprised if the Mandalorian, being Disney's big Star Wars experiment, was made with far more prep time, and on Boba Fett and Obi Wan Disney decided to tighten the deadlines like they do with Marvel and the VFX immediately suffered.
@Pastrybfs 2 жыл бұрын
@@KillahMate I could definitely see that. And we know that Book of Boba spent less time in the writing phase than Mando at the very least, so your theory has water. It just sucks that Mando got better production values given to him than a flagship character like Obi Wan.
@dylanward5680 2 жыл бұрын
Just Binged Severance and I could never skip the opening credits. It's so satisfying to watch and see clues about it the show. I would love to see an episode dedicated to well done CGI intros. ( Severance, Game of Thrones, Westworld, new Lord of the Rings....etc..) love every episode. Keep it up everyone!
@mikeandersonart 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see breakdowns of more “hidden” vfx, like period piece movies such as Road to Perdition
@thatspineappletastic 2 жыл бұрын
I love that they get Clint back on the channel so much it’s like he never left. They need to get Peter back more often
@timo1070 2 жыл бұрын
why did Peter leave? or is it for unknown reasons?
@robinwolting6156 2 жыл бұрын
Wait did Peter leave??
@therealfilmnerd 2 жыл бұрын
Peter left?
@wigs3430 2 жыл бұрын
Peter just released scooty
@rocketpunchgo1 2 жыл бұрын
The Batman (and Mandolorian, etc) using the Volume shows that even "fake" practical sets are almost always better than full CGI ones.
@StoriesOfASaytr 2 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that it seems it's mostly the background. But the things in the set tend to be practical. As you don't got to blend all the fake props in front with all the fake in the back.
@Appletank8 2 жыл бұрын
They did mention a lot of problems occur if you need to edit a shot afterwards, because you’re almost stuck to rotoscoping it out.
@98tofuyi 2 жыл бұрын
I think the difference is that in Volume is harder to "just fix it in post" since the "cgi" is done beforehand, so it requires a lot more planning. Like it was said in the video, the biggest culprit in bad cgi is bad planning and lack of time.
@user-ol7bt4wp1j 2 жыл бұрын
Blade Runner 2049 is showing it even better Like they created an entire brutalist city out of miniatures.
@thecommenter578 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. Also I think it's better for the actors because they have something to look at instead of the classic sea of green
@44BlueFoxes 2 жыл бұрын
Always nice to see Clint back
@austinsavage5962 Жыл бұрын
This show has given me a real appreciation for the people behind the scenes theres alot more to movies than just the actors
@markhalvorson4631 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see some of the “87%” of VFX shots that we don’t notice. What are filmmakers doing that successfully tricks us without realizing it?
@Kytetiger 2 жыл бұрын
Check a Wolf of Wall Street making of compilation, you will be surprised !
@randomperson3934 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kgamer64 this is a lie😭😭 they just use drones for sky shots and shit, y’all just read one like from google and think U know sum
@RJrules64 2 жыл бұрын
@@randomperson3934 Skyshot? sure. Skyline in the background of a ground shot? no
@Stevenwave- 2 жыл бұрын
One I remember seeing them mention in an ep was a lot of the roads in the chase scene/s in the last James Bond were CGI replacements. One of the big reasons being they need to be able to shoot multiple times, but skidding a car around creates skid marks etc. So it was easier to just fully replace the road, rather than try to match up shots that do/don't have skids visible that don't break continuity etc.
@jumbojumbo6866 2 жыл бұрын
@@RJrules64 i thought it was mostly video recording a sky and then putting that on the background or at least putting a camera on a hot air balloon idk what kinds of shoots they will put but i assume before drones they may use balloons or high poles
@suntanironman 2 жыл бұрын
New thing to do for the show: “The Last Starfighter (1984)”. Anything from that movie would be great to learn more about (I love this movie so much), but specifically the ‘Melting Ice Cream Caves’ scenes would be great to get your thoughts on. Depending on which version you are watching (slightly different movie edits have been released over the decades), that would start at about the 1 hour 6 minute mark. If you are wondering what I mean by ‘Melting Ice Cream Caves’, if you watch you’ll instantly think “Ohhhhhh…. yeah. I get it.” Such an amazing CGI-heavy movie done more than 38 years ago. I can’t even guess as to how many times I have watched this movie from start to finish. I want to learn more about that one scene, but please don’t only do that one not-so-great scene. It would be such a shame if all the amazing scenes were ignored and only that one scene was focused on, lol.
@AndrewPRoberts 2 жыл бұрын
YES
@assaultbunny3231 2 жыл бұрын
Been suggesting that movie for like a year now :)
@suntanironman 2 жыл бұрын
@@assaultbunny3231 Me as well. Every half-dozen or so “VFX Artists React’ videos, I’ll mention “The Last Starfighter” as something that they can react to next. I am honestly surprised that none of them have ever once mentioned it in any video on this channel (unless it missed it). The Last Starfighter is obviously not as well known as other films, but it was a fairly ground-breaking film (for the mid-80s) in terms of CGI.
@merlinoner 2 жыл бұрын
Joe is one of your bests guests, very knowledgeable and really humble at the same time.
@ektopia 9 ай бұрын
Incredible episode. My fave so far
@happycamperable 2 жыл бұрын
This was a really great episode. You touched on a lot of things that did not work in certain shots, and how to improve them. But you did not outright call them bad. I think that was very effective in talking about all the aspects of VFX work. Not just what you love about famous VFX shots. Joe was also very insightful. I hope for more episodes like this in the future.
@Doug_Hannon 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see some VFX breakdowns of old Sci-Fi shows like Stargate SG-1, BattleStar Galactica, Star Trek, etc.
@scarletspidernz 2 жыл бұрын
oh and modern version with like The Expanse and Star Trek: Strange New Worlds
@guksack 2 жыл бұрын
My British ass would love to see the awesome 80s/early 90s Red Dwarf model shots versus the CGI "remasters" they did in the late 90s (You know, around the time George Lucas was making it a "cool" thing to do)
@ms.c.j. 2 жыл бұрын
Okay you want examples, we have examples. My partner and I have a mutual love of film, are over 50 years of age, and my partner used to do 3D back in the days of 3D Studio V1 Jaguar, AGES ago. Life happened, so he never went further, but he did impress someone at what turned into a BIG company in digital later on. His first film that made him so curious about the industry was Jason and the Argonauts and those iconic skeletons by Ray Harryhausen. You touched on that scene in one episode here. Darren, my partner, suggests Keloid by BLR VFX (Big Lazy Robot). The Vikings, 1958 w Kirk Douglas, The Black Hole by Disney, Silent Running, Short Circuit, Phantom of the Opera, Big Trouble in Little China, Fight Club, Brotherhood of the Wolf, Dog Soldiers, and if you want more……
@ms.c.j. 2 жыл бұрын
OMG I forgot! Reboot!!
@ms.c.j. 2 жыл бұрын
OMG I forgot! Reboot!!
@jamesragsdale 2 жыл бұрын
Joe is able to articulate everything so well. Truly an expert in his field.
@GEOgraphicdesigner 2 жыл бұрын
Ash Thorp designed the Batmobile in the recent Batman movie. Would love to see him on this show one day! He's super inspiring and really cool dude.
@MikeTaffet 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, Stunt people react to car chases would be dope
@GEOgraphicdesigner 2 жыл бұрын
@@MikeTaffet Oh, that reminds me of Ford v Ferrari movie. So many good car shots!
@kb470 2 жыл бұрын
It very quickly became my favorite batmobile
@pwl2992 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@youruncleted Жыл бұрын
This dude is my favourite guest. Adam Savage is great and the Weta guys are so talented, but this dude has that vibe of your favourite history teacher. He's so concise and constructive when criticizing the fx, comes across as intelligent and polite all around. Very welcome guest, every time.
@crownjackal2366 2 жыл бұрын
If y'all haven't done the Hellboy movies yet, I would love to see a video on them. Looks like lots of practical and lots of cgi shots pretty seamlessly stitched together.
@marcreid1704 2 жыл бұрын
Joe Farrell said something that made me think of a vfx teacher I had who said : "Doing VFX is trying to fool an tool perfected of millions of years to detect prey and predator in foliage"
@mikosoft 2 жыл бұрын
There's a surprising amount of invisible visual effects in Forrest Gump. There's crowd multiplication in many scenes, sky replacements, the table tennis ball is all effects.
@omfgblondie 2 жыл бұрын
11:45 I hadn't thought about it, but filming on the volume is a lot like filming in a physical set rather than on location or on green screen. It's all built ahead of time, you film in the same general area every day but the set is changed.
@tylershep4220 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see an episode featuring Top Gun Maverick. Their effort to work with real fighter jets while supplementing with VFX was really impressive.
@brandbird 2 жыл бұрын
When I first saw Jackson's King Kong, I thought the obvious blue/greenscreening was a deliberate tribute to the original, kinda like "yeah we know you can see they're running in front of a screen, just like back in the day, but what happens on our screen is more spectacular, so just enjoy the ride".
@adamvialpando106 2 жыл бұрын
Could have been both. Like "We are never gonna make the compositing look good so let's focus more on the weird but unique look".
@heyitsmikegaming 2 жыл бұрын
My new head canon. If it looks bad it's an homage
@hazonku 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely felt that way about it because there are plenty of other non action shots that looked kinda janky.
@taherr 4 ай бұрын
I actually was blown away by the dino run sequence as a kid watching it in cinemas way back when.
@qwinserroe8281 2 жыл бұрын
I'd really love to see you guys look at Finch (2021) - I think the use of mo-cap, CG and puppeteering is a really unique mix that makes for a very believable robot character!
@DursProductions 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in seeing you guys react to Godzilla through the eras. It would be fun to see you react/compare the practical work of the Showa/Heisei eras, the blending of practical/digital in the Millennium/Reiwa eras and the digital work of the Monsterverse.
@Marksman3434 2 жыл бұрын
Episode recommendation: Lost in Space (1998) vs Lost in Space (Netflix) would be a cool comparison, not just in terms of VFX, but in the overall artistic design and direction and how they differ from one another in all those aspects
@jasonblalock4429 2 жыл бұрын
The 1998 version would probably be more interesting to talk about, since it has some very nice shots and some really terrible shots. It's kind of a good snapshot of where late 90s CGI was at, and what happened when studios tried to get too ambitious.
@FablestoneSeries 2 жыл бұрын
Lost in Space the original black and white TV show, for its time for 1965 was impressive. They did zero G scenes (in the first episode) that no one else dared to try at the time. And then there is the scene from Lost in Space (1998) with the alien that was bonkers terrible. I think the animators at the time were still clinging to old school methods of squashing and stretching. So we got this little alien dude who's eyes would bulge out, and it just looks like a cartoon. I worked on the new Lost in Space Netflix TV show. Though not as a CGI artist. I was doing background acting on that series. I AM an CGI animator. I've done CGI work, but just not on that show. Nevertheless I would be happy to answer questions, if I can. What I appreciated about the Netflix TV show is just how much was practical. They built an impressive set. They commissioned 2 actual operating rovers be built (chariots I think they called them). The spaceship was as real as one could expect. The mothership built 2 floors on top of one another and was just huge. You could wander around the set and feel like you were on something real.
@jasonblalock4429 2 жыл бұрын
@@FablestoneSeries Heh, along the same lines, I bet the crew would freak out learning about the effects on the 1950s show "Space Patrol." It didn't just have to do all its effects in-camera, it had to do them in-camera *during live broadcasts.* Model shots, miniatures on wires, mirror-based compositing, moving backgrounds on treadmills, etc, all done in realtime - and any mistake would be seen by millions. It was practically a magic show, and the work that went into shooting an episode was nuts.
@FablestoneSeries 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonblalock4429 Yeah i forgot about that. That's definitely worth a deep dive. I promise you any effects that were good from the 1998 version were practical. the robot, for example was a Jim Henson puppet, one of the last things he worked on before he died. One of reasons i liked the set of the new one, is how much work went into things that would likely never been seen. For example, they built a pie slice of the habitat ring, of the Resolute, that could be dressed up to look like any part of the ship. in the big room that was everything from the lunchroom to the command center there was a bay window that looked out over the habitant ring as it wrapped around. They built the exterior of the ship so what you were seeing outside wasn't CGI (except for the stars). any other show would have just stuck a green screen out the window.
@ondrejgrega4658 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys. I love your content, it's entertaining but also educational. I am not sure if Hellboy II: The Golden Army was mentioned either in VFX Artists React to Bad & Great CGi or Stuntmen React to Bad & Great Hollywood Stunts series. The movie has got some cool visuals but also stunt work is great. Wish you luck on every upcoming project.
@roosjen 2 жыл бұрын
First: Awesome show, and I still love the reaction vids especially! Second: I recently rewatched quite a few Star Trek movies and episodes (eg TNG, Star Trek Insurrection), and saw a lot of new ones (Discovery, Strange New Worlds) and I would love to hear stuff about the effect used and perhaps even how they ‘grew up’, including your opinion on what I believe was a rather poorly received look in Discovery using all the lens flare effects. Thirdly: I wonder if you also do non moving stuff like paintings, 2d art, etc and are interested in talking about that. If so, I would be interested what that would be!
@Animatty 2 жыл бұрын
Recommentation: Belle (2021 GKIDS film) was sooooo beautiful and amazing and almost every shot had me gasping because it was so astoundingly well done. Watched it for the first time recently, and I have had major respect for it ever since.
@bert_clemens2530 2 жыл бұрын
Watching these videos for the last 2 years has given me a new found respect for vfx artists. Learning the ins and outs of it all and how complex the work is is fascinating. I always loved movies but when i watch them now I pay alot more attention to the practical, visual effects, cinematography and stunt coordinations and see it in a totally different light; It drives my girlfriend nuts but oh well. It makes me wish i could go back 10 years and get into film making. I've been trying to regurgitate this knowledge to people with my dumb dumb brain hoping i don't butcher it too much then just end it with "you gotta just watch the videos". Keep showing us how the sausage is made guys, this is good stuff. P.S. Lighting and shadows look like a pain in the ass.
@SebastianKomor Күн бұрын
Love your channel. Would be cool to see some videos where you guys break down vfx in music videos. Plenty to choose from. Cheers.
@bastidino1 2 жыл бұрын
omg best guest by far! could've listened to him go on and on for hours
@nightspicer 2 жыл бұрын
The *last agni kai fight from ATLA* would be perfect for for the Animators React. It's so stunning! For the VFX series you gotta react to *Aslan from the Chronicles of Narnia!* Also at the end of second one there's a big water creature, so it might be cool to see what you think about that. If you want something a bit crappy the old Barbie movies could be great for that (fe. The 12 Dancing Princesses, for the dancing) Maybe also, Max Schneider's Gibberish music video, the editing kinda breaks my brain there. And for stuntmen react It would be cool to see you react to the duel from "Potop", it's really good sword fight (tho technically it's sabers i think)
@flatleyld 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with the Narnia suggestions! I’d love to see a compare of Aslan from the 3 movies, and the water creature from Prince Caspian. It’s stunning work.
@EpicWolverine 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, reviewing some of those old Barbie movies would be interesting. My sister loved them so I ended up watching them a lot on trips.
@Charely1925 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see them do Zuko and Azula's agni kai. That would be amazing!
@TaylorPassofaro 2 жыл бұрын
YESSS The Last Agni Kai should definitely be on animators react. Some of the best work I've ever seen!
@nightspicer 2 жыл бұрын
@@EpicWolverine I used to watch them a fair bit as a kid and recently rewatched some of them and it actually surprised me how different they were from what I've remembered
@BlueShirtRedVest 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it'd be a VFX artists react or an Animators React, but I think it'd be cool if you did an episode where you showed the evolution of CGI in a videogame series that has been around for a long time. Blizzard with Warcraft, MS with Halo, Sony w GoW etc.
@michaeln6142 2 жыл бұрын
A spin off series about video games would be cool generally, just like they have Animators and Stunt Men react
@chrislavoie9521 2 жыл бұрын
About the discussion of at 6:30, that VFX artists never go out to do a bad shot. Corridor Crew's videos about "we fix terrible CG" perpetuates the bad Rep that VFX artists have. For all the education and passion they bring to the VFX world, Corridor Crew does the industry dirty when trying to "fix" bad shots
@JTGallant 2 жыл бұрын
You guys! I have found GOLD! Kamui, a 2009 loose adaptation of the 80's anime about a ninja on the run his whole life. the first 8 minutes alone have had some insanely goofy effects and wild stunts. I can see you guys having a FIELD day with these on VFX AND Stunt People react.
@Tomi-berry 2 жыл бұрын
More love needs to be showed to the Editor(s)! They make sure we understand how this VFX works!
@danrkelly 2 жыл бұрын
Hearing someone speak about the reality of delivery and relationship between resources and time hit home for me. It's same for a lot of time constrained practical projects in other industries especially where output is a detailed design.
@adingdingdiiing6740 2 жыл бұрын
Man, hearing what Joe had to say at around 5:00 about the people who work on vfx and that recent scandal regarding vfx artists not wanting to work with Marvel anymore lines up perfectly. Their deadlines are crazy but they have to make due with what they have.
@trystanbleuven791 2 жыл бұрын
This joe man must be a pleasure to work with, love the way he explain things
@QueeferSutherlands 2 жыл бұрын
Please look at District 9. It still holds up AMAZINGLY well to this day compared to others. Would love to hear you talk about how that certain style seems to age so much better than other scifi CGI. Blomkamp has always been good at that in general. He deserves a whole episode! Or even have him on!
@mou.2 2 жыл бұрын
YES.
@emilymillikan992 2 жыл бұрын
YES. And/or Elysium.
@gtx1650max-q 2 жыл бұрын
District 9 was frickin insane
@skatrash1747 2 жыл бұрын
You guys should react to some of the scenes from Firefly! there's some decent action sequences as well as convincing effects done with the ships in the show! Love everything you guys have put out!
@PhriekshoTV 2 жыл бұрын
NEED to see a reaction to Jumper, specifically the multi-jump punch near the end. Absolutely my favorite shot
@Thorax2552 2 жыл бұрын
I would love you guys to look at Starship Troopers. There's plenty of CG shots that still look great. Also I'd say go back to Jibaro but this time look at the water work during the dance sequence as well as the movements. What makes it more impressive is that it wasn't mocap
@mollywoodshots6503 2 жыл бұрын
That madman Greg Fraiser shot the bright & dusty world of Dune and the dark & dirty world of The Batman back to back. Kudos to him and everyone🙌
@kaschmonet 2 жыл бұрын
The Dragon chase scene from Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire had a lot of little details that helped give the dragon more life.
@PhilCW10 2 жыл бұрын
That comment about how people only notice the bad VFX reminds me of that old statement of sound design, "You only notice it when it is wrong" Additionally, the idea of overworking the comp teams puts into even more perspective the recent report about Marvel burning out VFX artists and fan comments about "Bad CG" in recent Marvel movies.
@lribbit Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite films as a kid was Disney’s Flight of the Navigator. It had liquid metal simulations, a shape shifting spacecraft and a really great time travel sequence near the end of the film. Check it out!
@lawrencesprague9584 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see an ep of who can make the best airplane ocean crash to replace the shots in air force one, would be sweet to see Clint in on that one too, I already know he’d make something awesome. Some hyper realistic versions, some physics engine sims, maybe even some stylized versions, lotta possibilities :)
@khandimahn9687 2 жыл бұрын
I like that idea!
@Marksman3434 2 жыл бұрын
So cool to see Clint coming back consistently again for VFX Artists React. Also, man, this episode was SUPER educational, especially with the King Kong part
@private8718 Жыл бұрын
Great to see Clint in a CC video again.
@Megan-bt9pm 2 жыл бұрын
I finally watched every episode of this VFX reacts series (and subscribed now as a result) but now I can know I'm suggesting something that hasn't been done in a vid yet. Two scenes from Dracula Untold. One is a from the first major battle scene where there is a shot of the battle seen through the reflection of a rotating sword. Then the other is the huge bat horde in the second major battle scene.
@drgonrasa 2 жыл бұрын
The Legion show had some fun and interesting CGI and practical effects, I'd really recommend the kitchen scene in season one and the "time monkeys" had some interesting design
@garysalazar5279 2 жыл бұрын
why do you keep repeating this using different accounts?
@drgonrasa 2 жыл бұрын
@@garysalazar5279 What do you mean? I wrote this comment once in the past with the same account, that was months ago
@garysalazar5279 2 жыл бұрын
@@drgonrasa If you go down the comment section, it looks like a bot copy pasted your comment. You should report it
@drgonrasa 2 жыл бұрын
@@garysalazar5279 Thanks for the headsup, I just did
@MedlifeCrisis 2 жыл бұрын
Joe always got other VFX artists’ backs, what a dude
@singhtv1911 2 жыл бұрын
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@QueenFiria 2 жыл бұрын
16:21 I don't know why, but I absolutely lost my shit here! 😂 Between the goofy grin, and the absurdity of the laptop, it hit me just right
@camicees 2 жыл бұрын
First sponsor segment i actually watched haha
@wolfer9203 2 жыл бұрын
The visuals in Stranger thing's is pretty sick, I'd love to see you guys break down and explain the VFX ect..
@Naseem384 2 жыл бұрын
Well, Stranger Things doesn’t have the best VFX but the story more than makes up for it.
@Caseoh_Music 2 жыл бұрын
the vfx is the worst part of the show
@waterierStone 2 жыл бұрын
It really helps that there's never too much going on with the monsters. And that they have more sturdy hair because it's the 80s.
@bonesplinter3587 2 жыл бұрын
Season 4 has incredible vfx, I don’t think I’d say that for for anything else in the show other than the spider monster from stranger things
@thebatman07 2 жыл бұрын
@@bonesplinter3587 the villain in season 4 literally looks like a man in a costume
@SoniasWay 2 жыл бұрын
I love how well Joe Farrell explains everything about the craft. It’s so interesting to hear
@chillman7754 Жыл бұрын
this is the best ad read that you have ever done, 10/10
@cakeitv 2 жыл бұрын
16:20 "But this time I snuck in my laptop" *Pulls out Giant Laptop from his pants* got me laughing so hard 🤣
@Mr.Septon 2 жыл бұрын
So this show started out as gold but one thing I find I am really loving is how many VFX artists, animators, stunt people, etc. are quickly becoming regular staples of the show. It really adds something to it where you get the view from the "guys on the couch" and the people that were there. Great combination, I just love your shows.
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